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Re: New facilities on FN/ Welcome back WUA!

 

<< Also tried an open hole Lot piccolo. Very interesting to play.>>

Is there such a thing as an open holed piccolo? Apparently, if you played
one, but how is that possible?
<3~JillBeanz


Irena Grafenauer

Elaine Fine
 

Does anyone have any biographical information on Irena Grafenauer? I have
tried in vain all over the internet to find out somethng about her and
thought I would ask this flute list. Please reply to me privately at
csef@....

Thanks,

Elaine Fine


Re: Flutezilla!!/Morricone/Caroline's ambitions

Hoffman
 

Lyn
Even though the syllabus sets out
ridiculous transcriptions , you needn't assault the pieces just to impress
with your flutey histrionics.
You are absolutely right. However, it is important to play pieces you are
happiest playing.
It all depends on what suits your sound, technique, temperament and self
image at the time.
Ten years ago I would certainly have chosen Chant de Linos/Grand
Polonaise/Freyshutz/Shubert sort of a program, that was the easiest thing
for me to. Fifteen years ago it would have been Ibert/Prokoffiev, etc.
These days I can probably impress them more with a slow tune, although the
whole idea of impressing examiners and adjudicators has lost whatever
appeal it had in the past.

Speaking of transcriptions, we may have got used to Jolivet piano
reduction, but it does sound completely different, and the piano part is
fiendish. If I ever perform it again, I would try to get a group together.

Martin
hoffman@...

Hartford, Cheshire, UK


Caroline's ambitions

Caroline <[email protected]
 

In message <0eb513343230898UPIMSSMTPUSR05@...>, Lyn McLarin
<WildMusic@...> writes
Caroline! I am so glad you are planning positively for the braces-removal!!
I think Nancy's advice is good, don't necessarily assume that you must
choose the hardest things on the LRSM syllabus...after all, a dodgy
performance of the Ibert (heaven forbid, right?<G>) might end up scoring a
lot worse than a breezy one of Chaminade...But then again, think of the
actual sound of your planned recital! Even though the syllabus sets out
ridiculous transcriptions , you needn't assault the pieces just to impress
with your flutey histrionics. I mean, let's face it, the Nielson and the
Ibert do not sit well with only the struggling gymnastic piano
accompaniment, do they? I reckon the Chaminade IS great with piano..as is
the Jolivet (DOES anyone ever do it these days with the original
scoring??)..Actually, if you have a feel for the Jolivet please do it, give
the old adjudicators a thrill! I do love that piece.... Although this is
obviously "only" my personal feeling, I have always preferred it over the
(oddly similar) Dutilleaux(sp)...!!
The problem being that I really, really LOATHE that Chaminade piece!!
Sorry, nothing except a very large performing/recording fee would induce
me to learn it (and that's not very likely to happen!) I think it was
originally written for flute and piano, which would explain why it sits
well. The problem with the Jolivet is going to be affording the music
in the first place, let alone learning the damn thing! I've done the
Dutilleux before, at my final recital for University, so that's an
option, however, the point of me doing this is to get some more
repertoire under my belt really, hence the idea of doing the Nielsen or
the Ibert, neither of which I know properly. We'll see, it's a good two
years off yet - I have to do the Advanced Certificate and the written
papers first! I just wish there was some Reinecke on the list <sigh>

Nancy wrote:
I did the LRSM in 1996 and didn't do any of the "hard" pieces! I played
a
Bach, the Fantaisie, the Poulenc and the Chaminade! I took the easy way
out and got a B!! How expensive will it be for you to do the LRSM? It
cost me an absolute fortune over here, nearly US$600!! with all the
written
and practical sections.

I think it's about 75 for each of the two papers and 150 for the
practical - so about the same still! Congratulations on passing - I
didn't know that it was graded, I thought it was pass or fail on the
papers and then a mark of 75% or more for a pass in the practical, 90%
or more a pass with distinction. That's the case for the Guildhall,
Trinity and Royal College anyway.

Martin wrote:
Glad to hear you're back in business. I have been toying with the idea
of
doing the AB exams myself, especially as my students are quickly
becoming
more qualified than me.
<snip>
You can tell him I'm still enjoying his headjoint after 12 years.

I certainly will do! I'll try the flattery route, but I'll have to make
sure it's well away from his other half, she REALLY doesn't like me.

Go for it with the exams! We'll have a mutual flattery & support team
going! I assume you're going to skip the 1-8 and jump in at AC level?
Actually, as you've been through music college, you'd probably get an
exemption from that - save you 85 or so!

I'm seriously considering sticking my name on the Crabb & Forward list
for a flute - how much time do you reckon I'd have to save up for it if
I was at 8 or 9?!
--
Caroline


New facilities on FLUTENET (FWD)

Glen Ross <[email protected]
 

*** IMPORTANT **

FLUTENET gets extra facilities.

Onelist originally offered us an archive facility in which to store
old posts. The problem was that this would have been available to
the public and some members felt uneasy about having their e-mail
addresses available to Joe Public.

I have been in discussion for some time with Onelist about providing
a PRIVATE archive which could only be visited by *registered members*
of Flutenet. This is now available not only to us but to all the
hundreds of lists which are run by them.

To make use of it go to:-

Select USER CENTRE and sign in at the bottom of the page.

This will bring up a list of the groups you are signed on with.

Alongside FLUTENET you will find various options.

Click on LIST CENTRE.

Click on ARCHIVES.

This will bring up a listing of old mail showing the sender and the
subject matter.

Beneath this there is a section giving the complete postings.
----------------------------

The other option on the screen is headed BOOKMARKS.

Clicking on this will allow you to look at addresses of interesting
sites which members have added or to add addresses of places which
you have found interesting.

Glen.


Lyn and her Fizz!!

 

Well Lyn...you can't blame everything for your unfortunate prediliction to
cheap, unpalatable Italian fizz!! No couth young lady<<GG>> I blame it on
your unfortunate early upbringing in the Colonies!!

Make no mistake about it....I too have great respect for Morricone..the
composer. It is just Morricone the man who is such a plonker. Still they
say old Ludwig was not a nice man...and Mozart could be...well scatalogical!

Whereas of course I, and everyone on FN, is very nice...and not at all
scatalogical...ever!! BTW get a better map and you will find Lynsore Bottom.

Adrian
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ENGLAND

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Welsh Whistle Player

Sandi and Richard Schmidt
 

Dear Nuts,

A slow day at The Market, but I am hot after a new recruit. Met Mike
Crowley today. He is from Wales. He walked up to the table and played
the dickens out of my Flutes. I could tell he was serious by the
Copeland Brass Penny Whistle slung from his belt like a six-shooter.
Not only one hot fluter and whistler, he is some sort of big shot
software developer in San Jose, Ca. I am not sure what transpired
between Wales and California, but he is here now. Yes, I certainly have
heard of Glenn Ross, said he, and he would be thrilled to join the list.

Richard, over and out...


baseball history

Karen Stafford
 

Mark McGwire did it!! He broke Roger Maris's record for most home runs
in a single season. Chaos reigns in St. Louis.
--
Karen Stafford
"It's OK; I'm with the band"
-Stafford's Music Madness Site
Contributing Editor on Flutes, Suite
101:


oils and words

William & Robin Willis
 

Sandi--persnickety is one of the best words I know.
And who says olive oil doesn't taste so good?
And does it matter if the wood "discolours" a bit--wood'n it just darken
a bit?

Robin.


Re: Flutezilla!!

Rebecca Ruch
 

Lyn,
Johnzilla only got caught once. The Citizen's Patrol was IN THE CAR when
he stole their magnetic sign. He got caught so they told him to write
the Patrol an apology letter. He sent them a letter all right, but it
wasn't an apology. He just...photocopied his uh...favourite finger, and
sent that to them. Sometimes I wonder about that kid...

But anyway, in music theory today I learned how to transpose! Yippeee!
Off to study,
Rebecca
--
becci@...

icq: #1036359
AOL: Flutopia16 or Poohluvr64
(___(_o_)____|_|__O_o_O_O_)_o_o_O_O_O_|_9_O_O_O_|


Re: Flutezilla!!/Morricone/Caroline's ambitions

Lyn McLarin
 

Hey Rebecca!

I like the sound of your friend JohnZilla/tubacaster!! Whee! Does he ever
get caught and plonked into the clink? <G> (sorry, Cindy and other cautious
parents..but then offspring ARE offlimits til the weekend, hopefully...)
A full two years after my father's departure I only just noticed that far
off the track of our family cabin in the woods of Virginia there stand a
pair of (stolen) road signs: one announcing No Tresspassing..the next,
further into the tangle of vines and thickets: "School bus stop"!!!!
We always knew he was a bit flakey, but how did he reconcile his extremely
conservative politics with THIS??? HeeHee!! Some things are just meant to
be silly, I reckon!

Oh Adrian..you will hate me for this..but I feel I must confess that despite
all your tales of Morricone's horribleness to you and to other musos..I
still love his score to that forgotten film Orca Killer Whale(with Richard
Harris and Charlotte Rampling)..sorry, but there it is....Hmm, do you
suppose this is an after effect of my predilection for Asti Spumante(the
Italian champagne)???? <GGG>

Caroline! I am so glad you are planning positively for the braces-removal!!
I think Nancy's advice is good, don't necessarily assume that you must
choose the hardest things on the LRSM syllabus...after all, a dodgy
performance of the Ibert (heaven forbid, right?<G>) might end up scoring a
lot worse than a breezy one of Chaminade...But then again, think of the
actual sound of your planned recital! Even though the syllabus sets out
ridiculous transcriptions , you needn't assault the pieces just to impress
with your flutey histrionics. I mean, let's face it, the Nielson and the
Ibert do not sit well with only the struggling gymnastic piano
accompaniment, do they? I reckon the Chaminade IS great with piano..as is
the Jolivet (DOES anyone ever do it these days with the original
scoring??)..Actually, if you have a feel for the Jolivet please do it, give
the old adjudicators a thrill! I do love that piece.... Although this is
obviously "only" my personal feeling, I have always preferred it over the
(oddly similar) Dutilleaux(sp)...!!

Cheers! Lyn McLarin
WildMusic@...


Re: Flutezilla!!

Rebecca Ruch
 

Welcome back to Adrian, we've all missed you so much! And think, just
earlier this week the list was so quiet I sat and wondered if Onelist
didn't just up and die on us, I wasn't even getting a digest a day!
Yipeee! =)

Glen,
flutezilla? *lol* I have a friend named JohnZilla, but I didn't know
there was such a thing in the flute world. We call him "Johnzilla:
Tubacaster" because by day he's a guitar/tuba playing maniac, but by
night he's a small green lizzard who runs around stealing signs from
streets such as "69th street" and "Cummings Street" (a true intersection
here in Omaha) and those magnetic signs off of the side of the Citizen's
Patrol car.

Rebecca
--
becci@...

icq: #1036359
AOL: Flutopia16 or Poohluvr64
(___(_o_)____|_|__O_o_O_O_)_o_o_O_O_O_|_9_O_O_O_|


Re: Return to WIBB/starting playing again

Hoffman
 

Caroline
Glad to hear you're back in business. I have been toying with the idea of
doing the AB exams myself, especially as my students are quickly becoming
more qualified than me.

I told him to take his time over the service he's
giving it.
Hmm.. That's not a good thing to say to a flute maker. <G> I would say that
flattery is probably a better option, if you want to have it working well.
You can tell him I'm still enjoying his headjoint after 12 years.

Best, Martin
hoffman@...

Hartford, Cheshire, UK


Return to WIBB/starting playing again

Caroline <[email protected]
 

In message <E0zG88j-00073R-00@...>, Adrian Brett
<lebret@...> writes
From: lebret@... (Adrian Brett)

Caroline,

How we all missed you at WIBB's classes.......no tent..no........mmmmmm!!!
Ahem <blush>...no, I'm not going to try and explain this one! However,
let me just say that I still have a tape of that song you wrote about
the incident somewhere!

For me..no drive thru McDonalds milk shakes...boohoo!!
Next year! I almost did come down for the day, but I couldn't find
Bookham on the map or a contact phone number. I missed you all too,
lots and lots.

The good news is that it looks like my braces could well be off before
Christmas, which gives me time to get back into practice before the
class next year, so I'LL BE BACK!!!! Depending, of course, on me being
able to extract my flute from A.W.D.O's workshop! I've loaned it to him
to play with and because I didn't think the braces would be off until
November next year, I told him to take his time over the service he's
giving it. Adrian, do you think flattery or force will get it back
sooner?!

I can tell I'm getting serious about the flute again, I picked up the
syllabi for the ABRSM Advanced Certificate and LRSM exams yesterday.
The AC should be fairly easy, it's all stuff I was playing at school,
but you can't take the LRSM without it (another way for the Board to
milk the last drop in exam fees out of you...). However, for the LRSM
I'm thinking of taking the difficult option and learning either the
Ibert or the Nielsen concertos or Joilvet Chant de Linos. I think
they're going to expect at least one of the "hard" pieces on the list!
Ah well, back to the finger wiggling, dust off the Moyse, T&G and Wye...

Just got back from a riding lesson, and I reek of horse, it's making the
cat sneeze, so I'm going to go and dump myself in the bath - catch you
later everyone...

Love
--
Caroline


Re: Return to WIBB/starting playing again

"Nancy Smith" <[email protected]
 

Caroline wrote:


I can tell I'm getting serious about the flute again, I picked up the
syllabi for the ABRSM Advanced Certificate and LRSM exams yesterday.
The AC should be fairly easy, it's all stuff I was playing at school,
but you can't take the LRSM without it (another way for the Board to
milk the last drop in exam fees out of you...). However, for the LRSM
I'm thinking of taking the difficult option and learning either the
Ibert or the Nielsen concertos or Joilvet Chant de Linos. I think
they're going to expect at least one of the "hard" pieces on the list!
Ah well, back to the finger wiggling, dust off the Moyse, T&G and Wye...
Hi Caroline,

I did the LRSM in 1996 and didn't do any of the "hard" pieces! I played a
Bach, the Fantaisie, the Poulenc and the Chaminade! I took the easy way
out and got a B!! How expensive will it be for you to do the LRSM? It
cost me an absolute fortune over here, nearly US$600!! with all the written
and practical sections.

Nancy


Help.

Glen Ross <[email protected]
 

Sarah,

I accidentally deleted your message ref midi files.
Would you please resend it so that I can reply.

Glen.


Re: flute choir music

Sarah Hewitt <[email protected]
 

Glen -- I'd love to send you a copy of my piece. The only problem is
that I just got Finale. I haven't put this piece in yet (or any other
for that matter). If you are serious I will start right away. I don't
have any idea how to make a midi file, or if I would want to risk the
music becoming public property on the internet. Or is a midi file
something I could e-mail you? As you can tell, I'm kind of
technology-illiterate, but I'm willing to learn.
SarahGlen Ross wrote:


From: Glen Ross <ross@...>

The message <35EAC31E.7388@...>
from Sarah Hewitt <Sarahew@...> contains these words:

I have a score I have written for flute choir that I
would really love to hear performed. It is for 2 piccs, 5 flutes, alto
and bass. It is called Reveries
Any chance of your revered leader [grovel, grovel<G>] getting hold of
a set of parts for the Brit flutenet group? I could copy them out
from a midi file if it makes life easier.

Glen.

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Re: Would you oil the wood?

Sandi and Richard Schmidt
 

Joseph Said>>>>For recorders, you must periodically suck in on the flute
to clear the
windy, so you will definatly taste your oil. You clear a baroque flute
the same way. First time I gave a silver Boehm flute a quick suck to
clear
the headjoint, I thought I was going to be sick. The silver residue
tastes
horrible!<<<<

Haha, that reminds me of the time I went to tune tune an ocarina and it
wouldn't blow so I looked in the mouthpiece ant there were little spider
legs waving at me. Yuck. I just sat the whole thing out in the
garden. Poor little thing probably thought he was caught in a tornado.
One guy sent an ocarina back to us and said it didnt work, on closer
examination there was a bit of a cheeto or some other orange colored
cracker in the air way. Oh, sigh, the laments of and ocarina maker.

About the olive oil, I guess it is a matter of opinion but I have heard
the wooden spoon maker, Jim Wilson tell people for 15 years that he
finishes his spoons in olive oil. I will have to ask Romy what he
thinks He has been making Bamboo Flutes for a long time and he is very
persnickety. (Is that a word?) I like your formula Joseph, you
probably ought to market it. "J.W.'s Essential Super Duper Flute
Toot'n Oil." Quit your day job and hit all the folk music festivals.
No?
Who else oils on this list, and with what?
Max did you try it or not?

Down to the clay pit goeth I.

Adios
Sandi


Re: Lyn

Keith Pettway
 


Of course the first place may be a corruption of "Pettway Bottom"........

Adrian
Adrian - You may have just discovered the "root" of the family
tree of the human name I have adopted! As far back has we can trace it
in the U.S. is Possum Hollow (Possum Holler to the locals.)
Glen - How can you speak so disparagingly about my spelling,
especially on such simple words as gud and baid. I do get the first
letters right *most* of the time. And yes, Adrian is correct, wicked is
gud and evil is baid.
It sure has not taken Adrian long to stir things up a bit!!
Cheers!!
Papa Smurf


Would you oil the wood?

Joseph S. Wisniewski
 

Mike McArthur <mikemc@...> wrote:

I don't want to stomp on anyone's feet, but my Dad is a woodturner by
trade and although I don't know a huge amount about such things myself
(except that it took him an hour to make a beautiful Kauri cleaning rod
for my flute, an enormous amount of work went into it), I DO recall him
clearly telling me a number of times to never put olive oil onto wooden
items. Ordinary vegetable oil is OK but apparently olive oil tends to
cause the wood to discolour and gives bowls a horrible taste.
I don't want to step on anyone's feet either, but people have been putting
olive oil on musical instruments for hundreds of years, and it really
hasn't been a problem to date.

Olive oil is not a great tasting oil, but you should compare it to flax
oil (that's what health food people call linseed oil, a popular
woodturner's oil).

On a more serious note, any oil you use on a flute should have some
vitamin E added to it. This will prevent discolorations, rancid smells,
etc. One of my favorite oil mixes is equal parts almond oil and olive oil.
You want the purest, cleanest oils availiable. In the UK, you should have
no trouble finding medical grade olive and almond oil at a pharmacy. I
usually add the juice from one vitamin E capsule to 1 ounce (30ml or
125MHz or 72kG or 12 fathoms) of oil.

In the US, you can buy "sweet oil" at the pharmacy, which is ultra clean,
virtually oderless, olive oil. I mix this with Hain brand almond oil
(cleanest looking almond oil I've been able to find).

Some people oil bores with pure almond oil, others use pure linseed oil.
Remember, you must always use RAW linseed oil. BOILED linseed oil contains
toxic chemicals, and hardens to a laquer like coating in the flute bore.
Other popular oils include walnut oil and peanut oil. Mineral oils,
vaseline, and WD40 are to be avoided, as is dunking the flute in beer or
just pouring it through the bore (a common Irish flutist custom, believe
it or not).

If the instrument has any keys and pads, you must be extra careful not to
get oil on the pads.

I hope you dont intend drinking from your flute, but discolouration
would be annoying. The reason probably has to do with olive oils low
'freezing' point.
For recorders, you must periodically suck in on the flute to clear the
windway, so you will definatly taste your oil. You clear a baroque flute
the same way. First time I gave a silver Boehm flute a quick suck to clear
the headjoint, I thought I was going to be sick. The silver residue tastes
horrible!


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