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Tumor Growth + Fatigue, then healing??


 

I have been encorporating 90% of the BP for about 6 or 7 months now. Started it while still doing chemo and stopped chemo around 4 months ago (I think, my memory is all messed up) Anyhow, point is. For the last 8 days I have been doing the protocol 100%. Every single thing. And aroundd 4 days ago my breast (the original tumor) began to swell.
Today it is the most swollen it has been. I am in no pain, anywhere. I have also been fatigued for the last 3 weeks or so. I am wondering if the fatigue usually accompanies the swelling that occurs before a tumor is dissolved and healed. So, far, my body has correlated with all the thing you all and Budwig have said it would. My pain disappeared just 2 days after starting BP 7 months ago and has not returned. The swelling in my spine has fully disappeard as well. From what I have learned about this protocol, the newest tumors dissolve first and the oldest last. This has proven true for my spinal tumors which showed up last and healed first (although I am only basing "healed" on the fact that the swelling went down and pain completely disappeared - no follow up scans yet for personal
reasons). Am hoping that the fact that the swelling in my breast is not painful means it is in fact the typical protocol swell that occurs directly before healing. And I do not believe it is a coincidence that the swelling has started at the same time that I have chosen to 100% follow the diet. I am just asking for confirmation from you all that this is true.

How long can I expect the swelling to last? If actual breast cancer people could respond also it would help.

Does it seem logical to assume that this swelling is the presumed "good swelling" since there is no pain accompanying it?

How many of you found it true that your healing of tumors occured with most recent tumor formations first and oldest ones last?

Thank you all for your time and support :)


 

Bronwynn, hi,

BC experience here: I can remember my affected breast was incredibly tender
and swollen during and post allopathic treatment. My memory is terrible,
but I do recall waking up a couple of months into the BP and realising it no
longer was swollen and felt normal for the first time in nearly two years.

I also would like to put my two pennies worth in too; remember that this
group is no different to any other group of people, we (me too) only let you all
know what we want others to know. Each person's idea of 100% compliance is
different. We also try to be strong for each other, knowing that any
admission of a sneaky treat, an odd coffee (whilst still having success on the BP),
would send everyone else grabbing for the milk chocolate.

Before everyone starts advising me not to veer off the diet, I am not. I
just have my own interpretation of it. Which is very strictly adhered to.
Except for the occasional rest for my liver from the FOCC mix and one coffee
once a week. Which I did not enjoy this morning as all those wonderful mails
kept reeling through my head about the poison it's doing.

The point I am trying to make, is each person interpretation of the diet is
different, just as some supplement, which is not supportive of the protocol.

Further, (sorry); and I am sure you know this already, with breast cancer
you should avoid dairy, with the exception of the organic cottage cheese. I
have found some wonderful, and quick recipes in the Jane Plant book.

Hope you find this relevant B.

Michele


jbchoice
 

I don't have the JB experience to know - but I am a breast cancer patient with mets, and I started swelling first at the last ones, and now I am not swollen there, but at another site that was there longer. I find that I have great energy followed by a day or so of more tired...then it starts over again..and I know first hand how scary this is - I chose not to follow myself with scans etc anymore after the first relapse and I choose to do only the JB.....so I am sending prayers your way.


Bronwynn wrote:
How long can I expect the swelling to last? If actual breast cancer people could respond also it would help.

Does it seem logical to assume that this swelling is the presumed "good
swelling" since there is no pain accompanying it?

How many of you found it true that your healing of tumors occured with most recent tumor formations first and oldest ones last?


gardenerinmd
 

--- In FlaxSeedOil2@..., "Bronwynn" <lovebronwynn@...>
wrote:

How long can I expect the swelling to last? If actual breast cancer
people could respond also it would help.
Hello Bronwynn,
over many months, after reading through the FlaxSeedOil2 messages, I
realized that there was a whole range of times that it took people to
see results from the Budwig protocol. Some saw results in weeks;
for a few, it took close to a year. I believe that if you keep up
with the ENTIRE Budwig protocol (fo/cc, juicing, raw veggies, nuts,
whole grains, lots of rest, reduced stress, daily sunbaths, daily
massages with flax seed oil or Eldi oils, stay away from processed
foods and try to minimize exposure to
chemicals/pesticides/herbicides) your tumors will eventually shrink.

Following are my own experiences with breast cancer. I have (maybe
even had?) breast cancer. I started doing parts of the Budwig
protocol about Nov. 2006 (fo/cc) but realized I could not keep on
working and do the full protocol (mostly because of the commuting
time and the stress involved with it) ... so at the beginning of Feb.
2007 I took a 12 week leave of absence from work to do the full
protocol including sunbaths, lots of rest, sauerkraut juice every
morning (started making my own sauerkraut), other juicing later in
the day, lots of organic, raw foods, whole steamed grains, fo/cc 2-3
times a day, massage with flax seed oil, etc.

An interesting side note: I was urged by a lady in our Human
Resources department at work, to try to get on their private
disability insurance. I didn't see what my doctor wrote on the form,
but it was approved through October 2007. Since I still don't have
anywhere near my usual energy level, I am extremely grateful that I
have the time to continue the entire protocol. Despite all the
helpful FlaxSeedOil2 messages, I personally could not have continued
to work and do the entire Budwig protocol.

After about 4 months on total Budwig, the tumor in my breast
continued to grow; on the whole upper part of the breast until it was
about the size of the palm of my hand plus fingers and about 1/2 to
2/3 as thick; it went about 3/4 of the was around my breast and the
nipple was inverted. From being able to feel one enlarged lymph
node, I was able to feel a string of enlarged lymph nodes running up
towards the shoulder.

Even though I had read that some people's tumors kept growing for
almost a year before turning around, I was uneasy about waiting that
long.

My brother had given me a book titled "Outsmart your Caner
Alternative Non-Toxic Treatments That Work" by Tanya Harter Pierce;
it is the best book I have read so far and it has a whole chapter on
the Budwig protocol. It also has a chapter on cesium chloride therapy
which appeared to work in a similar method to Budwig to raise the pH
of the cells - but more quickly. So about the beginning of May 2007,
I added the cesium chloride therapy along with keeping on doing the
Budwig protocol. After several weeks, I could see that the tumor was
no longer growing. After several more weeks, I could feel that the
tumor and lymph nodes were shrinking.

I spoke with a fellow in Canada who has experience working with
cancer patients doing cesium chloride therapy. After 6 weeks, he
thought I had taken enough and could stop. (A different information
source recommended taking it for a full 12 weeks.) Anyway, I stopped
and within several weeks, a small part of the tumor started growing
(but not the whole thing) so I assume it had almost knocked out most
of the cancer, but not quite all.

So I resumed taking cesium chloride. I also purchased a frequency
generator and started using it on the frequencies recommended for
cancer, parasites, liver and lymph problems. After several weeks,
the tumor started shrinking again and becoming less hard. As the
tumor receded up past the nipple, it started popping back out again.
Also, there are several lymph nodes I can not feel anymore and the
ones I can feel are shrinking and becoming softer.

Since I am close to the 12 week limit, I am stopping the cesium
chloride therapy but continuing with Budwig to keep the body in the
best possible condition to discourage any cancer regrowth.

So to summarize, it appears that for a smaller percentage of people
on Budwig, it can take a LONG time for the Budwig protocol to start
shrinking tumors. The Budwig protocol appears to work more gently
and naturally than many other protocols, but takes a longer time to
produce tumor shrinkage. It is my belief, from my experience, that
the cesium chloride therapy will work more quickly than Budwig alone
because it alkalizes the cells to a higher pH level. However, the
cesium chloride therapy has more side effects than with Budwig
including nausea, digestive upset, fatigue, weakness, and possible
heart arrythmias if potassium levels are not monitored.

Many blessings,
Cheryl, near Frederick, MD


Turmeric4
 

Cheryl,

Thanks for this information on your "journey". I wondered how you
were doing.

Karen






--- In FlaxSeedOil2@..., "gardenerinmd" <cherylann1@...>
wrote:

--- In FlaxSeedOil2@..., "Bronwynn" <lovebronwynn@>
wrote:

How long can I expect the swelling to last? If actual breast
cancer
people could respond also it would help.
Hello Bronwynn,
over many months, after reading through the FlaxSeedOil2 messages,
I
realized that there was a whole range of times that it took people
to
see results from the Budwig protocol. Some saw results in weeks;
for a few, it took close to a year. I believe that if you keep up
with the ENTIRE Budwig protocol (fo/cc, juicing, raw veggies, nuts,
whole grains, lots of rest, reduced stress, daily sunbaths, daily
massages with flax seed oil or Eldi oils, stay away from processed
foods and try to minimize exposure to
chemicals/pesticides/herbicides) your tumors will eventually shrink.

Following are my own experiences with breast cancer. I have (maybe
even had?) breast cancer. I started doing parts of the Budwig
protocol about Nov. 2006 (fo/cc) but realized I could not keep on
working and do the full protocol (mostly because of the commuting
time and the stress involved with it) ... so at the beginning of
Feb.
2007 I took a 12 week leave of absence from work to do the full
protocol including sunbaths, lots of rest, sauerkraut juice every
morning (started making my own sauerkraut), other juicing later in
the day, lots of organic, raw foods, whole steamed grains, fo/cc 2-
3
times a day, massage with flax seed oil, etc.

An interesting side note: I was urged by a lady in our Human
Resources department at work, to try to get on their private
disability insurance. I didn't see what my doctor wrote on the
form,
but it was approved through October 2007. Since I still don't have
anywhere near my usual energy level, I am extremely grateful that I
have the time to continue the entire protocol. Despite all the
helpful FlaxSeedOil2 messages, I personally could not have
continued
to work and do the entire Budwig protocol.

After about 4 months on total Budwig, the tumor in my breast
continued to grow; on the whole upper part of the breast until it
was
about the size of the palm of my hand plus fingers and about 1/2 to
2/3 as thick; it went about 3/4 of the was around my breast and
the
nipple was inverted. From being able to feel one enlarged lymph
node, I was able to feel a string of enlarged lymph nodes running
up
towards the shoulder.

Even though I had read that some people's tumors kept growing for
almost a year before turning around, I was uneasy about waiting
that
long.

My brother had given me a book titled "Outsmart your Caner
Alternative Non-Toxic Treatments That Work" by Tanya Harter
Pierce;
it is the best book I have read so far and it has a whole chapter
on
the Budwig protocol. It also has a chapter on cesium chloride
therapy
which appeared to work in a similar method to Budwig to raise the
pH
of the cells - but more quickly. So about the beginning of May
2007,
I added the cesium chloride therapy along with keeping on doing the
Budwig protocol. After several weeks, I could see that the tumor
was
no longer growing. After several more weeks, I could feel that the
tumor and lymph nodes were shrinking.

I spoke with a fellow in Canada who has experience working with
cancer patients doing cesium chloride therapy. After 6 weeks, he
thought I had taken enough and could stop. (A different
information
source recommended taking it for a full 12 weeks.) Anyway, I
stopped
and within several weeks, a small part of the tumor started growing
(but not the whole thing) so I assume it had almost knocked out
most
of the cancer, but not quite all.

So I resumed taking cesium chloride. I also purchased a frequency
generator and started using it on the frequencies recommended for
cancer, parasites, liver and lymph problems. After several weeks,
the tumor started shrinking again and becoming less hard. As the
tumor receded up past the nipple, it started popping back out
again.
Also, there are several lymph nodes I can not feel anymore and the
ones I can feel are shrinking and becoming softer.

Since I am close to the 12 week limit, I am stopping the cesium
chloride therapy but continuing with Budwig to keep the body in the
best possible condition to discourage any cancer regrowth.

So to summarize, it appears that for a smaller percentage of people
on Budwig, it can take a LONG time for the Budwig protocol to start
shrinking tumors. The Budwig protocol appears to work more gently
and naturally than many other protocols, but takes a longer time to
produce tumor shrinkage. It is my belief, from my experience, that
the cesium chloride therapy will work more quickly than Budwig
alone
because it alkalizes the cells to a higher pH level. However, the
cesium chloride therapy has more side effects than with Budwig
including nausea, digestive upset, fatigue, weakness, and possible
heart arrythmias if potassium levels are not monitored.

Many blessings,
Cheryl, near Frederick, MD