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Cliff Beckwith #135 Hi Mike, I am glad that you are on the Flax 2 group address now. It has been a struggle to get that done. At least I know more about lists than I did then. I remember being n contact with the Toronto gal back in 1993. My cousin got a tape of program she was on from the CBC. I would still like to have had a study of the same thing that had bread that didn't have the flax. A comparison with Tamoxifen is at least some comparison. except . It is also possible that there is something in the flax seeds, perhaps in the Lignans, that acts as a phytoestrogen which is apart from the Omega 3. I don't remember the sources over the years as to the effect of heat but my understanding is that heat destroys the Omega 3. That is why the oil must be cold pressed. A friend of mine talked with Bruce Barlean recently and Bruce told him that if the pressing temperature goes as high as 200 degrees, which some may be doing to get the last drop of oil, [and, incidentally, still claiming that their product is cold pressed] that the value of the Omega 3 is destroyed completely. I understand the optimum pressing temperature is 110 Degrees. However, I am now seeing a logical explanation to the bread and I am learning. Tamoxifen is a synthetic estrogen. I am quite sure that the Flax seeds contain an estrogen. I now remember that I have heard some claim that the main value of Flax seeds was in the phytoestrogens. The estrogens would not be destroyed by heat but the Omega 3 in that amount would not be any good any more but perhaps is not in enough quantity to be harmful. Incidentally, Tamoxifen is a double edged sword. It will reduce the chances of return of breast cancer by 41%. It will increase the chances of Abdominal cancer by 545%. We have lost one good friend this way already. She was doing fine on flaxseed oil and cottage cheese until a daughter who, by her father's admission, is the smartest lady in Florida, got her off that "snake oil" and onto Tamoxifen. The synthetic estrogens have some value, but many dangers. These are in very fine print on the back of the bottle. This might explain t he studies with a lot of other studies as well involving Flax seeds.
william falls #146 Hi Cliff! I have a dear friend that was put on Tamoxifin after a mastectomy, and she began menstruating again at the age of 89! That would undoubtetly scare me away! Lorie toggle quoted message Show quoted text ----- Original Message ----- From: "Cliff Beckwith" <spinner@...> To: "Flaxseed Oil 2" <FlaxSeedOil2@...> Sent: Thursday, October 25, 2001 5:46 PM Subject: [FlaxSeedOil2] Studies Hi Mike, I am glad that you are on the Flax 2 group address now. It has been a struggle to get that done. At least I know more about lists than I did then. I remember being n contact with the Toronto gal back in 1993. My cousin got a tape of program she was on from the CBC. I would still like to have had a study of the same thing that had bread that didn't have the flax. A comparison with Tamoxifen is at least some comparison. except . It is also possible that there is something in the flax seeds, perhaps in the Lignans, that acts as a phytoestrogen which is apart from the Omega 3. I don't remember the sources over the years as to the effect of heat but my understanding is that heat destroys the Omega 3. That is why the oil must be cold pressed. A friend of mine talked with Bruce Barlean recently and Bruce told him that if the pressing temperature goes as high as 200 degrees, which some may be doing to get the last drop of oil, [and, incidentally, still claiming that their product is cold pressed] that the value of the Omega 3 is destroyed completely. I understand the optimum pressing temperature is 110 Degrees. However, I am now seeing a logical explanation to the bread and I am learning. Tamoxifen is a synthetic estrogen. I am quite sure that the Flax seeds contain an estrogen. I now remember that I have heard some claim that the main value of Flax seeds was in the phytoestrogens. The estrogens would not be destroyed by heat but the Omega 3 in that amount would not be any good any more but perhaps is not in enough quantity to be harmful. Incidentally, Tamoxifen is a double edged sword. It will reduce the chances of return of breast cancer by 41%. It will increase the chances of Abdominal cancer by 545%. We have lost one good friend this way already. She was doing fine on flaxseed oil and cottage cheese until a daughter who, by her father's admission, is the smartest lady in Florida, got her off that "snake oil" and onto Tamoxifen. The synthetic estrogens have some value, but many dangers. These are in very fine print on the back of the bottle. This might explain t he studies with a lot of other studies as well involving Flax seeds. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: FlaxSeedOil2-unsubscribe@... Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to

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