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Hi I would like to know when is the best time to do the coffee enema when one doing the Budwig protocol? Thank you in advance
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I don't know if it's the "best" time, but I
do?back to back?coffee enemas right after my morning BM, before
my?breakfast muesli.? I drink my kraut juice?just prior as the
timing is just right for it to get "working" before the FOCC.
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Rod in MN, USA
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Hi I would like to know when is the best time to do the coffee enema when
one doing the Budwig protocol? Thank you in advance
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Hi,
My friend's sister is in pretty bad shape with colon cancer met to liver. A lot of tumors are found in her liver giving her a lot of pain. She needs to count on sleeping pills, painkillers and morphine. There is water retention in the lung, her liver is now very big and her legs are swollen.?
She went through rounds of chemo and the oncologist said there is nothing more to do but still started her on immunotherapy for trial. Right now she is very depressed and giving up hope. If there could be less pain, she might be able to stay stronger.
I keep reading that coffee enema helps to relieve pain. Is it safe to use on patient who had colon surgery??
Any suggestion is appreciated. Thanks,? Annei, Hong Kong.
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On 31 Jul 2017, at 10:39 PM, Annie lourdes annielourdes77@... [FlaxSeedOil2] < FlaxSeedOil2@...> wrote:
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Hi I would like to know when is the best time to do the coffee enema when one doing the Budwig protocol? Thank you in advance
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Hi Annei,
I'm sorry about your friend's sister. Is she on BP? I think she better start it instead of the immunotherapy from the dr or do both. Then she can look for hyperthermia therapy, though I don't know whether there is one in where she lives.
I won't do the coffee enema if I were her but perhaps castor oil packing can help with the pain, though I've never done it either.
Healing wishes for your friend.
On Wednesday, August 16, 2017, 11:31 AM, Annei Leung anneileung@... [FlaxSeedOil2] wrote:
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Hi,
My friend's sister is in pretty bad shape with colon cancer met to liver. A lot of tumors are found in her liver giving her a lot of pain. She needs to count on sleeping pills, painkillers and morphine. There is water retention in the lung, her liver is now very big and her legs are swollen.?
She went through rounds of chemo and the oncologist said there is nothing more to do but still started her on immunotherapy for trial. Right now she is very depressed and giving up hope. If there could be less pain, she might be able to stay stronger.
I keep reading that coffee enema helps to relieve pain. Is it safe to use on patient who had colon surgery??
Any suggestion is appreciated. Thanks,? Annei, Hong Kong.
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Hi I would like to know when is the best time to do the coffee enema when one doing the Budwig protocol? Thank you in advance
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Thank you Lucille,
I just know the elder sister on Monday and have not met the patient. She has been much tortured by chemo, can hardly eat, vomit after a little food. I told the elder sister about my journey in Germany and she is eager to get the patient to try but right now she is too weak and thus they are hesitated to make her fly 12+ hours to Germany.
I told her about castor oil and brought her some to try. Hope it helps in pain relief.?
How are you? Have you started hyperthermia in the nearby clinic? Wish you continuous improvement? Hugs, Annei?
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On 16 Aug 2017, at 5:52 PM, lucille watung lpwatung@... [FlaxSeedOil2] < FlaxSeedOil2@...> wrote:
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Hi Annei,
I'm sorry about your friend's sister. Is she on BP? I think she better start it instead of the immunotherapy from the dr or do both. Then she can look for hyperthermia therapy, though I don't know whether there is one in where she lives.
I won't do the coffee enema if I were her but perhaps castor oil packing can help with the pain, though I've never done it either.
Healing wishes for your friend. Lucille? On Wednesday, August 16, 2017, 11:31 AM, Annei Leung anneileung@... [FlaxSeedOil2] <FlaxSeedOil2@...> wrote:
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Hi,
My friend's sister is in pretty bad shape with colon cancer met to liver. A lot of tumors are found in her liver giving her a lot of pain. She needs to count on sleeping pills, painkillers and morphine. There is water retention in the lung, her liver is now very big and her legs are swollen.?
She went through rounds of chemo and the oncologist said there is nothing more to do but still started her on immunotherapy for trial. Right now she is very depressed and giving up hope. If there could be less pain, she might be able to stay stronger.
I keep reading that coffee enema helps to relieve pain. Is it safe to use on patient who had colon surgery??
Any suggestion is appreciated. Thanks,? Annei, Hong Kong.
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Hi I would like to know when is the best time to do the coffee enema when one doing the Budwig protocol? Thank you in advance
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I really hope your friend's sister recovers. She can gain strength by BP first, then do the treatments. Yes, she can't travel in that condition.?
Btw, the kind of hyperthermia that I am having in Germany (have done two times already), is kind of mobile one. It comes from Hungary, the health practitioner told me. If you can afford it, perhaps you can order it. It can be put just on part of the body that needs it. It puts my tumor to 40 degrees of Celcius. It makes my wounds to bleed again but I really hope that after doing it for some time, the cancer will die.
In the meantime, I've started with a small dose of Iscador treatment by my doctor and which will gradually increase. Hopefully these all will have the positive effects on my healing soon (have to have faith in it). This doctor still insists I have an operation too, but said no for now, not just yet.
How are you yourself, dear? Are you coping well with all??
Healing to all of us.
Hugs,
On Wednesday, August 16, 2017, 1:05 PM, Annei Leung anneileung@... [FlaxSeedOil2] wrote:
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Thank you Lucille,
I just know the elder sister on Monday and have not met the patient. She has been much tortured by chemo, can hardly eat, vomit after a little food. I told the elder sister about my journey in Germany and she is eager to get the patient to try but right now she is too weak and thus they are hesitated to make her fly 12+ hours to Germany.
I told her about castor oil and brought her some to try. Hope it helps in pain relief.?
How are you? Have you started hyperthermia in the nearby clinic? Wish you continuous improvement? Hugs, Annei?
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Hi Annie?
I do once a week in the morning .. am very susceptible to coffee, and an intake of an enema later on the day will rob me of my sleep . am not sure if it interferes with the Budwig Protocol.
?I do know that coffee immediately influences most of the major organs in the body.
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Hi Annei,
How are you? I want to tell you that I got a prescription from the doctor an antibiotic zalf named ROZEX 7,5mg/g gel and it takes the bad smell out of the pus. Perhaps you can ask your doctor for it when you have similar problem as mine.
Best, Lucille
On Wednesday, August 16, 2017, 1:28 PM, Annei Leung anneileung@... [FlaxSeedOil2] wrote:
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Thank you Lucille,
I just know the elder sister on Monday and have not met the patient. She has been much tortured by chemo, can hardly eat, vomit after a little food. I told the elder sister about my journey in Germany and she is eager to get the patient to try but right now she is too weak and thus they are hesitated to make her fly 12+ hours to Germany.
I told her about castor oil and brought her some to try. Hope it helps in pain relief.?
How are you? Have you started hyperthermia in the nearby clinic? Wish you continuous improvement? Hugs, Annei?
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Hi Annei,
I'm sorry about your friend's sister. Is she on BP? I think she better start it instead of the immunotherapy from the dr or do both. Then she can look for hyperthermia therapy, though I don't know whether there is one in where she lives.
I won't do the coffee enema if I were her but perhaps castor oil packing can help with the pain, though I've never done it either.
Healing wishes for your friend. Lucille? On Wednesday, August 16, 2017, 11:31 AM, Annei Leung anneileung@... [FlaxSeedOil2] <FlaxSeedOil2@...> wrote:
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Hi,
My friend's sister is in pretty bad shape with colon cancer met to liver. A lot of tumors are found in her liver giving her a lot of pain. She needs to count on sleeping pills, painkillers and morphine. There is water retention in the lung, her liver is now very big and her legs are swollen.?
She went through rounds of chemo and the oncologist said there is nothing more to do but still started her on immunotherapy for trial. Right now she is very depressed and giving up hope. If there could be less pain, she might be able to stay stronger.
I keep reading that coffee enema helps to relieve pain. Is it safe to use on patient who had colon surgery??
Any suggestion is appreciated. Thanks,? Annei, Hong Kong.
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Hi I would like to know when is the best time to do the coffee enema when one doing the Budwig protocol? Thank you in advance
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Hi Annie and Lucille, I read your discussion, I have a family friend who is suffering from colon and liver stage 4 cancer. He wants to start his first chemo next Wednesday. He is in a bad shape too. Can you please tell me about the clinic in Germany ? Regards
On Thu, Aug 24, 2017 at 8:03 AM, lucille watung lpwatung@... [FlaxSeedOil2] wrote:
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Hi Annei,
How are you? I want to tell you that I got a prescription from the doctor an antibiotic zalf named ROZEX 7,5mg/g gel and it takes the bad smell out of the pus. Perhaps you can ask your doctor for it when you have similar problem as mine.
Best, Lucille On Wednesday, August 16, 2017, 1:28 PM, Annei Leung anneileung@... [FlaxSeedOil2] wrote:
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Thank you Lucille,
I just know the elder sister on Monday and have not met the patient.. She has been much tortured by chemo, can hardly eat, vomit after a little food. I told the elder sister about my journey in Germany and she is eager to get the patient to try but right now she is too weak and thus they are hesitated to make her fly 12+ hours to Germany.
I told her about castor oil and brought her some to try. Hope it helps in pain relief.?
How are you? Have you started hyperthermia in the nearby clinic? Wish you continuous improvement? Hugs, Annei?
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Hi Annei,
I'm sorry about your friend's sister. Is she on BP? I think she better start it instead of the immunotherapy from the dr or do both. Then she can look for hyperthermia therapy, though I don't know whether there is one in where she lives.
I won't do the coffee enema if I were her but perhaps castor oil packing can help with the pain, though I've never done it either.
Healing wishes for your friend. Lucille? On Wednesday, August 16, 2017, 11:31 AM, Annei Leung anneileung@... [FlaxSeedOil2] <FlaxSeedOil2@...> wrote:
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Hi,
My friend's sister is in pretty bad shape with colon cancer met to liver. A lot of tumors are found in her liver giving her a lot of pain. She needs to count on sleeping pills, painkillers and morphine. There is water retention in the lung, her liver is now very big and her legs are swollen.?
She went through rounds of chemo and the oncologist said there is nothing more to do but still started her on immunotherapy for trial. Right now she is very depressed and giving up hope. If there could be less pain, she might be able to stay stronger.
I keep reading that coffee enema helps to relieve pain.. Is it safe to use on patient who had colon surgery??
Any suggestion is appreciated. Thanks,? Annei, Hong Kong.
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Hi I would like to know when is the best time to do the coffee enema when one doing the Budwig protocol? Thank you in advance
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Hi Elona,
I don't believe in regular chemo. I bet most of us in this group think the same. My friend's sister, who had breast and colon cancer met to liver, passed away 2 days ago. She was so weak due to rounds of chemo that she did not have time to start any alternative treatment, not even juice, castor oil pack or coffee enema.? If your friend believe in the body's healing power, my recommendation is not to start regular chemo. ?
I went to 2 clinics:- Fachklinik Dr Herzog - use extreme hyperthermia and low dose chemo, quite expensive.?
Live2give - use diet, moderate hyperthermia, exercise and spiritual thoughts, about 1/3 the price of Dr Herzog's Clinic.
If your friend needs urgent medical attention, I would suggest him to start with Dr Herzog to be ahead of the disease and then stay in Live2give to get into the concept of healthy diet and refresh his body and mind.
I am blessed that I had no pain and was innocent enough that I did not know my situation was dangerous. Therefore I was not scared and always believe that I will heal. Dr Herzog labelled me advance breast cancer met to liver and lung but never considered me terminal. Now all the ?metastasis disappeared leaving only one small hypermetabolic nodule thanks to double target therapy (Herceptin and Lapatinib), vegan ketogenic diet and daily exercise, plus my belief in ?the recovery and the blessings.
Lucille went to another clinic. I think she will tell you about it.
Wish your friend find the right path for him. Don't let his doctor scared him into doing harmful treatments.?
All the best, Annei
On 24 Aug 2017, at 3:47 PM, elona cenmurati elonacenmurati@... [FlaxSeedOil2] < FlaxSeedOil2@...> wrote:
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Hi Annie and Lucille,
I read your discussion, I have a family friend who is suffering from colon and liver stage 4 cancer. He wants to start his first chemo next Wednesday. He is in a bad shape too. Can you please tell me about the clinic in Germany ? Regards
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Hi Elona,
Annei went to clinics in Germany that treat cancer patients with ao hyperthermia therapy. One of the clinics name is Live2give.de. I went searching for the one closer to Holland and got this Sanulogic.com where they treat patients without them having to stay. They also have various kinds of therapies such as ozon, papimi, hyperthermia, infusion of vit. C, kurkurma and something they call celsymbiosetherapy. I find the prices for their treatments to be reasonable and all are non toxic ones. Have only been to this place and not yet been to others so I can only recommend this.?
I know however that there are many similar clinics in Germany. I'm preferring this one also because they speak Dutch and is very close to Holland. I wish your family friend for recovery of his cancers. Hyperthermia therapy is very recommended in helping cancer patients battling their sickness. Just google it. Good luck.?
Best wishes, Lucille.
On Thursday, August 24, 2017, 9:47 AM, elona cenmurati elonacenmurati@... [FlaxSeedOil2] wrote:
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Hi Annie and Lucille,
I read your discussion, I have a family friend who is suffering from colon and liver stage 4 cancer. He wants to start his first chemo next Wednesday. He is in a bad shape too. Can you please tell me about the clinic in Germany ? Regards
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Hi Annie and Lucille, Thank you so much to both of you for sharing these information. Annie, I am so sorry for your friend passing away. I strongly believe that chemo and radiation is not the path to deal with cancer, but in the case of my family friend ,I believe we are loosing time, as he wants to go down that path. Annie, can you please tell me how much roughly it can cost the ?clinic in Germany? , Please Lucille, can you please explain what do you mean by they can treat you without you needing to stay, do you need to find an hotel close to the clinic? Stay strong ladies, and take good care!
On Thu, Aug 24, 2017 at 11:04 AM, lucille watung lpwatung@... [FlaxSeedOil2] wrote:
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Hi Elona,
Annei went to clinics in Germany that treat cancer patients with ao hyperthermia therapy. One of the clinics name is Live2give.de. I went searching for the one closer to Holland and got this Sanulogic.com where they treat patients without them having to stay. They also have various kinds of therapies such as ozon, papimi, hyperthermia, infusion of vit. C, kurkurma and something they call celsymbiosetherapy. I find the prices for their treatments to be reasonable and all are non toxic ones. Have only been to this place and not yet been to others so I can only recommend this.?
I know however that there are many similar clinics in Germany. I'm preferring this one also because they speak Dutch and is very close to Holland. I wish your family friend for recovery of his cancers. Hyperthermia therapy is very recommended in helping cancer patients battling their sickness. Just google it. Good luck.?
Best wishes, Lucille.
On Thursday, August 24, 2017, 9:47 AM, elona cenmurati elonacenmurati@... [FlaxSeedOil2] wrote:
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Hi Annie and Lucille,
I read your discussion, I have a family friend who is suffering from colon and liver stage 4 cancer. He wants to start his first chemo next Wednesday. He is in a bad shape too. Can you please tell me about the clinic in Germany ? Regards
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Hi Annei,
I'm sorry that your friend's sister passed away. May she rest in peace now.
Elona, For my case, I didn't need to find a hotel,?I just went home after each treatment cos it's just 2 hours ride from my house. And yes there are hotels and motels in the area. The city name is Gronau, DE. The cost of each treatment at Sanulogic varies between 45€ - 135€. The hyper/oncothermia therapy costs 135€/hour.?
Hope your friend wants to try other (non toxic) therapies first before submitting himself to the toxic ones that actually are very harmful for his body. Once he gets too weak because of those toxic treatments, he probably won't be able to get up to get the good ones anymore. Let him read the websites of these clinics and/or talk to the clinics' contact persons.
This is the link for Sanulogic but I can only find the Dutch's version. But you can always call the contact persons.
Best, Lucille?
On Thursday, August 24, 2017, 12:29 PM, elona cenmurati elonacenmurati@... [FlaxSeedOil2] wrote:
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Hi Annie and Lucille, Thank you so much to both of you for sharing these information. Annie, I am so sorry for your friend passing away. I strongly believe that chemo and radiation is not the path to deal with cancer, but in the case of my family friend ,I believe we are loosing time, as he wants to go down that path. Annie, can you please tell me how much roughly it can cost the ?clinic in Germany? , Please Lucille, can you please explain what do you mean by they can treat you without you needing to stay, do you need to find an hotel close to the clinic? Stay strong ladies, and take good care! Love Elona UK On Thu, Aug 24, 2017 at 11:04 AM, lucille watung lpwatung@... [FlaxSeedOil2] wrote:
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Hi Elona,
Annei went to clinics in Germany that treat cancer patients with ao hyperthermia therapy. One of the clinics name is Live2give.de. I went searching for the one closer to Holland and got this Sanulogic.com where they treat patients without them having to stay. They also have various kinds of therapies such as ozon, papimi, hyperthermia, infusion of vit. C, kurkurma and something they call celsymbiosetherapy. I find the prices for their treatments to be reasonable and all are non toxic ones. Have only been to this place and not yet been to others so I can only recommend this.?
I know however that there are many similar clinics in Germany. I'm preferring this one also because they speak Dutch and is very close to Holland. I wish your family friend for recovery of his cancers. Hyperthermia therapy is very recommended in helping cancer patients battling their sickness. Just google it. Good luck.?
Best wishes, Lucille.
On Thursday, August 24, 2017, 9:47 AM, elona cenmurati elonacenmurati@... [FlaxSeedOil2] wrote:
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Hi Annie and Lucille,
I read your discussion, I have a family friend who is suffering from colon and liver stage 4 cancer. He wants to start his first chemo next Wednesday. He is in a bad shape too. Can you please tell me about the clinic in Germany ? Regards
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Hi Lucille, Thank you so much, and wish you the best!? Take care Elona UK
On Thu, Aug 24, 2017 at 7:43 PM, lucille watung lpwatung@... [FlaxSeedOil2] wrote:
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Hi Annei,
I'm sorry that your friend's sister passed away. May she rest in peace now.
Elona, For my case, I didn't need to find a hotel,?I just went home after each treatment cos it's just 2 hours ride from my house. And yes there are hotels and motels in the area. The city name is Gronau, DE. The cost of each treatment at Sanulogic varies between 45€ - 135€. The hyper/oncothermia therapy costs 135€/hour.?
Hope your friend wants to try other (non toxic) therapies first before submitting himself to the toxic ones that actually are very harmful for his body. Once he gets too weak because of those toxic treatments, he probably won't be able to get up to get the good ones anymore. Let him read the websites of these clinics and/or talk to the clinics' contact persons.
This is the link for Sanulogic but I can only find the Dutch's version. But you can always call the contact persons.
Best, Lucille?
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