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Hello Rose and Virginia,
"Jump start the process" ? On whose recommendation and track record? No way,
Jose`. The Dr. Budwig approach is good enough by itself instead of going out
into the "deep wide yonder" or "outer space." Dr. Budwig has snatched
people from death`s doorstep, after the allopaths had given up on them, and
that`s certainly means something ( at least to the patients!)

Your speculation in going down the Allopathic path and is akin to
Complementary Medicine where you mix, mesh and match. No thanks. Not for
me...

Further, Doctor Budwig has a health cookbook which tells people step by step
what to eat, not eat, what to avoid and what to include, in order to recover
or maintain good health. Her other excellent book tells a lot about the
whole health process and how to get rid of what caused the illness in the
first place, how to get back in sync with nature and how to survive well,
all in laymen`s terms..... She warns about going "off the track", something
that these discussion seem to be doing....

Having said all this, if you still persist in following the "drug
therapies", including a watered down chemotherapy regimen like IPT, by all
means do so, but don`t try to confuse the people who want to follow Dr.
Budwig. This somehow smacks of a ping pong contest, well orchestrated, and
spread among several groups. It`s a favorite ploy. Somehow, I believe that
this list is under attack again by a lot of new people who suddenly appear
with great medical vocabulary, a smacking of "knowing the ropes", and
agreeing to a point while subtly leaving a confusing message. Perhaps I am
wrong, but lately there seems to be a lot of people who advertently or
inadvertently seem to introduce subjects that want to lead the needy, ill
people off the correct track, that is , the Dr. Budwig regimen. This thought
has crossed my mind more than once or twice in the last 7 to 10 days....
.
Of course, each must follow his/her protocol and I have chosen mine. It
seems you have , too. Thank God that Dr. Budwig has given us a true path
that doesn`t hurt people nor cost a lot of money. Her wisdom . insight and
research are a true legacy to this Grand Lady.

Anyway, thanks for your input, I respect your right to say what you do,
but" I`m not buying into it." Ciao for now, Regards to one and all, Mike
Cinelli.
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MIke,
I respect your opinion. And I wasn't certainly trying to convince
any one to do any thing. And I am not some infiltrator. I am a
cancer patient, dealing the second round of tumors. That makes me
stage 4. I also have 3 small children and a business. I needed a
jump start. While Dr. Budwig's diet gave me a huge boost, and a huge
7 to 8 cm diameter by 1 to 2 cm thick mass disappeared between
January and March ( not biopsied, we'll never know for sure if it
was malignant, altho the oncologist assured us in January it could
not be anything but), I felt I needed something more agressive to
get me over it quicker. I did tons of research, and with most cures
with some digging and asking questions, I could find people it
didn't work for ( like 714X), but with IPT, everytone I found said
it worked. Even with Dr. Budwig, most people were still on it, still
had malignancies. I could only find one 1 former patient. And while
Cliff's collection of testimonials is one of the MOST inspiring
colections of testimonials, I just felt like I needed something
more. I would never push anyone to do anything, and I believe cancer
can be beat with Dr. Budwig's protocol, but for me, I wanted
something faster. And IPT is not just reduced doses of chemo (
around 8-10% of the normal dose). You also get intravenous Vitamin
C, liver extract, etc depending on where you go.

And if fact, Pam who started this, joined just recently on several
lists, asking the same questions. I give her credit for researching
what's out there and asking questions.

No need to reply, to each our own paths. Time for me to go eat my
fso/cc-- think I'll make it chocolate tonight.
Virginia

--- In FlaxSeedOil2@..., "Milpara" <milpara@m...> wrote:

Hello Rose and Virginia,
"Jump start the process" ? On whose recommendation and track

record? No way,

Jose`. The Dr. Budwig approach is good enough by itself instead of

going out

into the "deep wide yonder" or "outer space." Dr. Budwig has

snatched

people from death`s doorstep, after the allopaths had given up on

them, and

that`s certainly means something ( at least to the patients!)

Your speculation in going down the Allopathic path and is akin to
Complementary Medicine where you mix, mesh and match. No thanks.

Not for

me...

Further, Doctor Budwig has a health cookbook which tells people

step by step

what to eat, not eat, what to avoid and what to include, in order

to recover

or maintain good health. Her other excellent book tells a lot

about the

whole health process and how to get rid of what caused the illness

in the

first place, how to get back in sync with nature and how to

survive well,

all in laymen`s terms..... She warns about going "off the track",

something

that these discussion seem to be doing....

Having said all this, if you still persist in following the "drug
therapies", including a watered down chemotherapy regimen like

IPT, by all

means do so, but don`t try to confuse the people who want to

follow Dr.

Budwig. This somehow smacks of a ping pong contest, well

orchestrated, and

spread among several groups. It`s a favorite ploy. Somehow, I

believe that

this list is under attack again by a lot of new people who

suddenly appear

with great medical vocabulary, a smacking of "knowing the ropes",

and

agreeing to a point while subtly leaving a confusing message.

Perhaps I am

wrong, but lately there seems to be a lot of people who

advertently or

inadvertently seem to introduce subjects that want to lead the

needy, ill

people off the correct track, that is , the Dr. Budwig regimen.

This thought

has crossed my mind more than once or twice in the last 7 to 10

days....

.
Of course, each must follow his/her protocol and I have chosen

mine. It

seems you have , too. Thank God that Dr. Budwig has given us a

true path

that doesn`t hurt people nor cost a lot of money. Her wisdom .

insight and

research are a true legacy to this Grand Lady.

Anyway, thanks for your input, I respect your right to say what

you do,

but" I`m not buying into it." Ciao for now, Regards to one and

all, Mike

Cinelli.

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----- Original Message -----
From: "sitzfamily" <sitzfamily@y...>
To: <FlaxSeedOil2@...>
Sent: Friday, April 25, 2003 10:32 PM
Subject: [FlaxSeedOil2] Re: Alternative Cancer Therapies

Thanks Rose, I have been rolling these kinds of thoughts around

in

my head, formulating the same kind of response. You said it well.
Virginia

--- In FlaxSeedOil2@..., Rose Bowman

<rosiebowman@y...>

wrote:

Hello all,
Having followed the thread on IPT, alt-meds, etc, and
keeping the Budwig Protocol in mind, I'd like to offer
a few of my own comments regarding our quest for
cancer cure and quality health. I speak solely from
the perspective of a God-fearing person who believes
that God engineered our fantastic bodies and also
provides the perfect cure(s) when we're sick, and also
as one who believes in being very thorough.

Our goal in treating cancer is to kill the cancer and
build immunity concurrently. Using pure and natural
methods such as the Budwig Protocol builds the body's
defenses and allows it to heal from within, on a
cellular level, ultimately enabling the body itself to
kill the cancer. A method like the Budwig protocol,
perhaps enhanced with herbs and a wholesome,
nutrient-packed diet, is the ultimate way to overcome
cancer and will do the job over time.

If your cancer is advanced, it becomes a race to see
how quickly you can detoxify, purify, and balance your
body chemistry so as to reverse the process. Every
body is different, and some people take longer than
others. An advanced cancer may not give you time.
That is the point when you use some method to
jumpstart the process, to start killing those cancer
cells in the most benign yet effective manner
possible, while at the same time nurturing your body
with good nutrition, and I mean pouring it on thick.
The proper anti-oxidants and detoxifiers will protect
the tissues from harm, and the immune system will stop
taking a beating, rise up, and become strong.

This is exactly what IPT does. Its potency is enough
to poison the cancer but not nearly enough to be the
lethal, toxic weapon that high-dose chemo can be.
Proper nutrition and other therapies used with IPT
help negate any toxic effects that may exist while
supporting and building your defenses until your own
body can take over. Not only does the patient not
become nauseous after a treatment but actually has a
healthy appetite. Nutrients are also mixed into the
fluids during the treatment to further protect the
liver, blood, etc.

Obviously, I have an affinity for IPT and chose it for
my mother, but there are other effective treatments as
well. Again, when time is of the essence, the point
is to find methods by which to start killing the
cancer and reverse the process, allowing the body some
reprieve, which then enables the body to defend itself
and start healing. In effect, we have to stabilize,
and a very advanced cancer may not have time to do so
with diet alone. Jumpstart the process, while at the
same time nurturing the body with the correct regimen,
such as the Budwig Protocol. If you're not hurting
but only helping the body while quickly killing the
cancer, it just makes sense to me.

Rose Bowman


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