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Wilhelm,
Does Dr. Budwig discuss just how closely the diet needs to be
followed after we are declared "cancer free"? In the Diet book, she
admits that she allows a little milk, and says butter should be
avoided but doesn't declare it forbidden. She's a bit vague. I'm
wondering if you've seen any other comments that might help.
Thanks,
Virginia


--- In FlaxSeedOil2@..., Wilhelm Hansen <wilhelmh@t...>
wrote:

Kelly, that is great!
For your additional comfort, I want to tell you that the man I

know and

wrote about before, who was also healed of his brain cancer using

the

Budwig Diet is still free of cancer. That was in 1997. I last

spoke with

him about a month ago. However, he is still following the

principles of

the Budwig Diet. That is important. I hope Tom keeps up his fo/cc
regimen also. In that case, Dr.Budwig's words in her latest book
'Cancer, the Problem and the Solution' p.110 (available in German

only)

should likely apply: "Further tumors or metastasis will not

occur."

Good health to you and Tom,
Wilhelm


Kelly wrote:

We just got Tom's 12 month MRI Report today. Tom is still

cancer

free, no sign of brain cancer. The Doctor said it is a miracle.

We

are praising the Lord for his blessings! The doc said for the

next

year he will have to go every 4 months for an MRI. We continue to
take our flax oil and cottage cheese. Thanks to everyone on the
list - Kelly www.flaxoflife.com


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That should read "allows a little MEAT"


--- In FlaxSeedOil2@..., "sitzfamily" <sitzfamily@y...>
wrote:

Wilhelm,
Does Dr. Budwig discuss just how closely the diet needs to be
followed after we are declared "cancer free"? In the Diet book,

she

admits that she allows a little MILK, and says butter should be
avoided but doesn't declare it forbidden. She's a bit vague. I'm
wondering if you've seen any other comments that might help.
Thanks,
Virginia


--- In FlaxSeedOil2@..., Wilhelm Hansen

<wilhelmh@t...>

wrote:

Kelly, that is great!
For your additional comfort, I want to tell you that the man I

know and

wrote about before, who was also healed of his brain cancer

using

the

Budwig Diet is still free of cancer. That was in 1997. I last

spoke with

him about a month ago. However, he is still following the

principles of

the Budwig Diet. That is important. I hope Tom keeps up his fo/cc
regimen also. In that case, Dr.Budwig's words in her latest book
'Cancer, the Problem and the Solution' p.110 (available in

German

only)

should likely apply: "Further tumors or metastasis will not

occur."

Good health to you and Tom,
Wilhelm


Kelly wrote:

We just got Tom's 12 month MRI Report today. Tom is still

cancer

free, no sign of brain cancer. The Doctor said it is a

miracle.

We

are praising the Lord for his blessings! The doc said for the

next

year he will have to go every 4 months for an MRI. We continue

to

take our flax oil and cottage cheese. Thanks to everyone on

the

list - Kelly www.flaxoflife.com


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Virginia,
Dr.Budwig probably does explain it somewhere, but I have not seen it. I
think you have to read between the lines to get the answer. The Budwig
Diet is for healing and prevention. The difference is the degree to
which you use it. If you are ill you use more of certain components of
it such as fo/cc and ground flax seeds. Otherwise you use less. The rest
of the rules such as eating only wholesome foods, vegetables, fruits,
berries, etc. and staying away from hydrogenated fats, nitrite, sugar,
etc. would still apply regardless of your state of health. These are
common sense dietary principles.

The man I referred to was a patient of Dr.Budwig and received direct
instructions from her. He is staying on the diet although less strict
than before he was healed. Dr.Roehm, one of the strongest supporters of
Dr.Budwig said "You will have to remain on this diet for a good 5 years,
at which time your tumour may have disappeared." Personally, I would
stay on the diet indefinitely but in a somewhat more relaxed way. I
would not want to go back to the old ways of fast foods, doughnuts,
etc. I think I have been permanently cured of that.

Regarding butter, I would not place too much emphasis on the words
'should be avoided' and 'forbidden'. Butter is an animal fat. Dr.Budwig
refers to animal fats as one of the substances that interfere with cell
respiration. That would be enough for me to avoid it as long as I am
ill. For a healthy person animal fats are likely not a big problem
providing other essential nutrients are in good supply and the person is
active. When you are ill it is a different matter.

Dr.Budwig is against the consumption of meats even though she is known
to have made some exceptions. When asked why, she said something like
she consented "out of the goodness of her heart" (if I recall it right).
But she is opposed to eating meats. She herself is vegetarian. Cured
meats are definitely out because they contain nitrites which is another
substance that interferes with cell respiration. I would suggest not to
eat any meats when you are critically ill. If after recovery you want to
eat meat, I would suggest organically grown meats from animals which are
on pasture, i.e. from gras fed animals only.

I hope that answers your questions. Wilhelm


sitzfamily wrote:

That should read "allows a little MEAT"


--- In FlaxSeedOil2@..., "sitzfamily" <sitzfamily@y...>
wrote:

Wilhelm,
Does Dr. Budwig discuss just how closely the diet needs to be
followed after we are declared "cancer free"? In the Diet book,

she

admits that she allows a little MILK, and says butter should be
avoided but doesn't declare it forbidden. She's a bit vague. I'm
wondering if you've seen any other comments that might help.
Thanks,
Virginia


--- In FlaxSeedOil2@..., Wilhelm Hansen

<wilhelmh@t...>

wrote:

Kelly, that is great!
For your additional comfort, I want to tell you that the man I

know and

wrote about before, who was also healed of his brain cancer

using

the

Budwig Diet is still free of cancer. That was in 1997. I last

spoke with

him about a month ago. However, he is still following the

principles of

the Budwig Diet. That is important. I hope Tom keeps up his fo/cc
regimen also. In that case, Dr.Budwig's words in her latest book
'Cancer, the Problem and the Solution' p.110 (available in

German

only)

should likely apply: "Further tumors or metastasis will not

occur."

Good health to you and Tom,
Wilhelm


Kelly wrote:

We just got Tom's 12 month MRI Report today. Tom is still

cancer

free, no sign of brain cancer. The Doctor said it is a

miracle.

We

are praising the Lord for his blessings! The doc said for the

next

year he will have to go every 4 months for an MRI. We continue

to

take our flax oil and cottage cheese. Thanks to everyone on

the

list - Kelly www.flaxoflife.com


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Virginia -

why do you want to play games with your health?
If one eats a lot of animal fat the Budwig mix will not even
manage that, besides of a manifested sickness.

I avoid butter and have also cut milk as a thinner by changing
the mixing procedure:

Put 100 g low fat quark/cottage cheese in a cup
Grind 3 tablespoons flaxseed, add it
Add enough water to stir it soft and creamy (I use a table-knife)
Then add turmeric, cayenne, ginger
Add 3 tablespoons flax oil
Stir it until no oil is visible anymore
Add something for the taste (agave pulp,berries, hashed apple,
paprika sauce)
Stir again
Ready

Regards

Peter

Peter,
I have made huge changes in my diet over the last 2 years. I resist
giving up butter because I have worked so hard on the recipes that I
have, that I just don't want to go through it again unless it's
really neccessary. I chose to keep butter in my diet originally
under the assuption that it a natural oil that our bodies are used
to, as opposed to hydrogenated. I can purchase natural, organic,
local unpolluted butter that seems like a good choice. You just
can't cook everything with olive oil. Banana bread and pie crust for
example. Cooking without butter means spending months reworking
recipes using coconut oil. If that's what I have to do, so be it.
But I want to understand the science behind the idea before I start
implementing it.

I also haven't given up eating meats entirely because I just feel
like I am stronger and healthier with a little meat than strictly
vegetarian. When I eat a vegetarian meal, I pace around the kitchen
craving more carbohydrates, like cake. It makes me want sweets. But
if I eat a few ounces of meat, I am fine.

Not all diets fit all people, and I am trying very hard to figure
out the perfect diet foe me.

Virginia


--- In FlaxSeedOil2@..., Peter Fackelmann
<pfackelmann@g...> wrote:

Virginia -

why do you want to play games with your health?
If one eats a lot of animal fat the Budwig mix will not even
manage that, besides of a manifested sickness.

I avoid butter and have also cut milk as a thinner by changing
the mixing procedure:

Put 100 g low fat quark/cottage cheese in a cup
Grind 3 tablespoons flaxseed, add it
Add enough water to stir it soft and creamy (I use a table-knife)
Then add turmeric, cayenne, ginger
Add 3 tablespoons flax oil
Stir it until no oil is visible anymore
Add something for the taste (agave pulp,berries, hashed apple,
paprika sauce)
Stir again
Ready

Regards

Peter


At 3:34 Uhr +0100 22.03.2003, sitzfamily wrote:

Wilhelm,
Does Dr. Budwig discuss just how closely the diet needs to be
followed after we are declared "cancer free"? In the Diet book,

she

admits that she allows a little milk, and says butter should be
avoided but doesn't declare it forbidden. She's a bit vague. I'm
wondering if you've seen any other comments that might help.
Thanks,
Virginia

Virginia -
I agree with you. I have cut out all hydrogenated fats - but I think - like you - that allthough butter is a fat - and a animal fat - it is probably the best choice if one needs to use fat - as in certain recipes you mentioned.
I also can do quite well with a small amount of meat - of the leanest I can find - and I do think it is necessary..I'm talking fish, chicken and very rarely beef - none of it processed and always cooked correctly...for me 4 to 8 ounces per week seems fine.
Most Americans eat 4 to 8 ounces of meat PER MEAL - no wonder we are riddled with cancer...
and like you - I will crave if I feel deprived....mostly chocolate
I can't think that any food in moderation is a bad thing - well maybe bacon...perhaps I'm wrong
kir
sitzfamily <sitzfamily@...> wrote:Peter,
I have made huge changes in my diet over the last 2 years. I resist
giving up butter because I have worked so hard on the recipes that I
have, that I just don't want to go through it again unless it's
really neccessary. I chose to keep butter in my diet originally
under the assuption that it a natural oil that our bodies are used
to, as opposed to hydrogenated. I can purchase natural, organic,
local unpolluted butter that seems like a good choice. You just
can't cook everything with olive oil. Banana bread and pie crust for
example. Cooking without butter means spending months reworking
recipes using coconut oil. If that's what I have to do, so be it.
But I want to understand the science behind the idea before I start
implementing it.

I also haven't given up eating meats entirely because I just feel
like I am stronger and healthier with a little meat than strictly
vegetarian. When I eat a vegetarian meal, I pace around the kitchen
craving more carbohydrates, like cake. It makes me want sweets. But
if I eat a few ounces of meat, I am fine.

Not all diets fit all people, and I am trying very hard to figure
out the perfect diet foe me.

Virginia


--- In FlaxSeedOil2@..., Peter Fackelmann
<pfackelmann@g...> wrote:

Virginia -

why do you want to play games with your health?
If one eats a lot of animal fat the Budwig mix will not even
manage that, besides of a manifested sickness.

I avoid butter and have also cut milk as a thinner by changing
the mixing procedure:

Put 100 g low fat quark/cottage cheese in a cup
Grind 3 tablespoons flaxseed, add it
Add enough water to stir it soft and creamy (I use a table-knife)
Then add turmeric, cayenne, ginger
Add 3 tablespoons flax oil
Stir it until no oil is visible anymore
Add something for the taste (agave pulp,berries, hashed apple,
paprika sauce)
Stir again
Ready

Regards

Peter


At 3:34 Uhr +0100 22.03.2003, sitzfamily wrote:

Wilhelm,
Does Dr. Budwig discuss just how closely the diet needs to be
followed after we are declared "cancer free"? In the Diet book,

she

admits that she allows a little milk, and says butter should be
avoided but doesn't declare it forbidden. She's a bit vague. I'm
wondering if you've seen any other comments that might help.
Thanks,
Virginia

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If you want to eat healthy, think like a cave man. Would a cave man
eat processed sugar? Would he eat carbs like spegetti t and cakes?
Nope! It's easy. If a cave man wouldn't eat you shouldn't either!
On Saturday, March 22, 2003, at 10:21 PM, kirsten somers wrote:

Virginia -
I agree with you.? I have cut out all hydrogenated fats - but I think
- like you - that although butter is a fat - and a animal fat - it is
probably the best choice if one needs to use fat - as in certain
recipes you mentioned.
I also can do quite well with a small amount of meat - of the leanest
I can find - and I do think it is necessary..I'm talking fish, chicken
and very rarely beef - none of it processed and always cooked
correctly...for me 4 to 8 ounces per week seems fine.
Most Americans eat 4 to 8 ounces of meat PER MEAL - no wonder we are
riddled with cancer...
and like you - I will crave if I feel deprived....mostly chocolate
I can't think that any food in moderation is a bad thing - well maybe
bacon...perhaps I'm wrong
kir
sitzfamily <sitzfamily@...> wrote:Peter,
I have made huge changes in my diet over the last 2 years. I resist
giving up butter because I have worked so hard on the recipes that I
have, that I just don't want to go through it again unless it's
really neccessary. I chose to keep butter in my diet originally
under the assuption that it a natural oil that our bodies are used
to, as opposed to hydrogenated. I can purchase natural, organic,
local unpolluted butter that seems like a good choice. You just
can't cook everything with olive oil. Banana bread and pie crust for
example. Cooking without butter means spending months reworking
recipes using coconut oil. If that's what I have to do, so be it.
But I want to understand the science behind the idea before I start
implementing it.

I also haven't given up eating meats entirely because I just feel
like I am stronger and healthier with a little meat than strictly
vegetarian. When I eat a vegetarian meal, I pace around the kitchen
craving more carbohydrates, like cake. It makes me want sweets. But
if I eat a few ounces of meat, I am fine.

Not all diets fit all people, and I am trying very hard to figure
out the perfect diet foe me.

Virginia


--- In FlaxSeedOil2@..., Peter Fackelmann
<pfackelmann@g...> wrote:

Virginia -

why do you want to play games with your health?
If one eats a lot of animal fat the Budwig mix will not even
manage that, besides of a manifested sickness.

I avoid butter and have also cut milk as a thinner by changing
the mixing procedure:

Put 100 g low fat quark/cottage cheese in a cup
Grind 3 tablespoons flaxseed, add it
Add enough water to stir it soft and creamy (I use a table-knife)
Then add turmeric, cayenne, ginger
Add 3 tablespoons flax oil
Stir it until no oil is visible anymore
Add something for the taste (agave pulp,berries, hashed apple,
paprika sauce)
Stir again
Ready

Regards

Peter


At 3:34 Uhr +0100 22.03.2003, sitzfamily wrote:

Wilhelm,
Does Dr. Budwig discuss just how closely the diet needs to be
followed after we are declared "cancer free"? In the Diet book,

she

admits that she allows a little milk, and says butter should be
avoided but doesn't declare it forbidden. She's a bit vague. I'm
wondering if you've seen any other comments that might help.
Thanks,
Virginia

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Bacon... wasn't it one of the hardest things to give up? The smell
still makes me crazy. And it's so bad for you- preserved, smoked
pork fat! Ugghh.
V


--- In FlaxSeedOil2@..., kirsten somers
<kirsten121222@y...> wrote:

Virginia -
I agree with you. I have cut out all hydrogenated fats - but I

think - like you - that allthough butter is a fat - and a animal
fat - it is probably the best choice if one needs to use fat - as in
certain recipes you mentioned.

I also can do quite well with a small amount of meat - of the

leanest I can find - and I do think it is necessary..I'm talking
fish, chicken and very rarely beef - none of it processed and always
cooked correctly...for me 4 to 8 ounces per week seems fine.

Most Americans eat 4 to 8 ounces of meat PER MEAL - no wonder we

are riddled with cancer...

and like you - I will crave if I feel deprived....mostly chocolate
I can't think that any food in moderation is a bad thing - well

maybe bacon...perhaps I'm wrong

kir
sitzfamily <sitzfamily@y...> wrote:Peter,
I have made huge changes in my diet over the last 2 years. I

resist

giving up butter because I have worked so hard on the recipes that

I

have, that I just don't want to go through it again unless it's
really neccessary. I chose to keep butter in my diet originally
under the assuption that it a natural oil that our bodies are used
to, as opposed to hydrogenated. I can purchase natural, organic,
local unpolluted butter that seems like a good choice. You just
can't cook everything with olive oil. Banana bread and pie crust

for

example. Cooking without butter means spending months reworking
recipes using coconut oil. If that's what I have to do, so be it.
But I want to understand the science behind the idea before I

start

implementing it.

I also haven't given up eating meats entirely because I just feel
like I am stronger and healthier with a little meat than strictly
vegetarian. When I eat a vegetarian meal, I pace around the

kitchen

craving more carbohydrates, like cake. It makes me want sweets.

But

if I eat a few ounces of meat, I am fine.

Not all diets fit all people, and I am trying very hard to figure
out the perfect diet foe me.

Virginia


--- In FlaxSeedOil2@..., Peter Fackelmann
<pfackelmann@g...> wrote:

Virginia -

why do you want to play games with your health?
If one eats a lot of animal fat the Budwig mix will not even
manage that, besides of a manifested sickness.

I avoid butter and have also cut milk as a thinner by changing
the mixing procedure:

Put 100 g low fat quark/cottage cheese in a cup
Grind 3 tablespoons flaxseed, add it
Add enough water to stir it soft and creamy (I use a table-knife)
Then add turmeric, cayenne, ginger
Add 3 tablespoons flax oil
Stir it until no oil is visible anymore
Add something for the taste (agave pulp,berries, hashed apple,
paprika sauce)
Stir again
Ready

Regards

Peter


At 3:34 Uhr +0100 22.03.2003, sitzfamily wrote:

Wilhelm,
Does Dr. Budwig discuss just how closely the diet needs to be
followed after we are declared "cancer free"? In the Diet book,

she

admits that she allows a little milk, and says butter should be
avoided but doesn't declare it forbidden. She's a bit vague. I'm
wondering if you've seen any other comments that might help.
Thanks,
Virginia

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I don't miss it untill I smell it!
sitzfamily <sitzfamily@...> wrote:Bacon... wasn't it one of the hardest things to give up? The smell
still makes me crazy. And it's so bad for you- preserved, smoked
pork fat! Ugghh.
V


--- In FlaxSeedOil2@..., kirsten somers
<kirsten121222@y...> wrote:

Virginia -
I agree with you. I have cut out all hydrogenated fats - but I

think - like you - that allthough butter is a fat - and a animal
fat - it is probably the best choice if one needs to use fat - as in
certain recipes you mentioned.

I also can do quite well with a small amount of meat - of the

leanest I can find - and I do think it is necessary..I'm talking
fish, chicken and very rarely beef - none of it processed and always
cooked correctly...for me 4 to 8 ounces per week seems fine.

Most Americans eat 4 to 8 ounces of meat PER MEAL - no wonder we

are riddled with cancer...

and like you - I will crave if I feel deprived....mostly chocolate
I can't think that any food in moderation is a bad thing - well

maybe bacon...perhaps I'm wrong

kir
sitzfamily <sitzfamily@y...> wrote:Peter,
I have made huge changes in my diet over the last 2 years. I

resist

giving up butter because I have worked so hard on the recipes that

I

have, that I just don't want to go through it again unless it's
really neccessary. I chose to keep butter in my diet originally
under the assuption that it a natural oil that our bodies are used
to, as opposed to hydrogenated. I can purchase natural, organic,
local unpolluted butter that seems like a good choice. You just
can't cook everything with olive oil. Banana bread and pie crust

for

example. Cooking without butter means spending months reworking
recipes using coconut oil. If that's what I have to do, so be it.
But I want to understand the science behind the idea before I

start

implementing it.

I also haven't given up eating meats entirely because I just feel
like I am stronger and healthier with a little meat than strictly
vegetarian. When I eat a vegetarian meal, I pace around the

kitchen

craving more carbohydrates, like cake. It makes me want sweets.

But

if I eat a few ounces of meat, I am fine.

Not all diets fit all people, and I am trying very hard to figure
out the perfect diet foe me.

Virginia


--- In FlaxSeedOil2@..., Peter Fackelmann
<pfackelmann@g...> wrote:

Virginia -

why do you want to play games with your health?
If one eats a lot of animal fat the Budwig mix will not even
manage that, besides of a manifested sickness.

I avoid butter and have also cut milk as a thinner by changing
the mixing procedure:

Put 100 g low fat quark/cottage cheese in a cup
Grind 3 tablespoons flaxseed, add it
Add enough water to stir it soft and creamy (I use a table-knife)
Then add turmeric, cayenne, ginger
Add 3 tablespoons flax oil
Stir it until no oil is visible anymore
Add something for the taste (agave pulp,berries, hashed apple,
paprika sauce)
Stir again
Ready

Regards

Peter


At 3:34 Uhr +0100 22.03.2003, sitzfamily wrote:

Wilhelm,
Does Dr. Budwig discuss just how closely the diet needs to be
followed after we are declared "cancer free"? In the Diet book,

she

admits that she allows a little milk, and says butter should be
avoided but doesn't declare it forbidden. She's a bit vague. I'm
wondering if you've seen any other comments that might help.
Thanks,
Virginia

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