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Re: chemo?

 

please what is IMHO?

Milpara <milpara@...> wrote:Hi Cliff & All,
This is absolutely right on the mark. It`s all in Dr. Budwig`s books
"Flaxoil, As A True Aid To Arthritis, Heart Infarction, Cancer, And Other
Diseases", and , "The Oil-Protein Diet Cookbook". Dr. Budwig knows what she
is talking about. All that is needed is to get better informed by reading.

Oncologists who use chemotherapy must have to wrestle with a moraliy issue
every time.Some seem to care and others may actaully believe it`s the only
way to go (no pun intended!). Cliff, your Oncologist seems light years ahead
of the pack, and I wish her well in her treatments, even if her hands are
somewhat tied by archaic laws, rules and regulations as well as peer group
pressure. Dr. Budwig`s protocol is classified as food, at this time. God
bless her...

BTW, we all know cases about using Chemotherapy...
Two Examples:
My sister had two oncologists, one in favor and one against her using
chemotherapy. They could not agree so their agreed on a third one to act as
an arbitrator. This one believed in Tamoxifen and said she would never agree
to chemotherapy if it weren`t for the "excellent result" of Tamoxifen.
Luckily, I found something on Tamoxifen at the time that dissuaded my sister
"not to take Chemotherapy Treatments." She has never regretted this to date.

Also, I recall my neighbor who came down with cancer. Her husband and she
believed wholeheartedly in the doctors, and she underwent a "full course of
Chemotherapy." She did not even last the route. Read Dr. Robert Mendolson`s
book, "Dissent In Medicine", among others, and you will see that the success
rate of chemotherapy is dismally small. It has been said, " If the cancer
doesn`t get you, the chemotherapy will"...

As for IPT, why play with fire if there is another proven way out? But that
takes courage, information and positive action, which is somtimes hard to
muster, IMHO. It`s hard to believe that the agenda in hospitals, in many
cases, may not be what we believed it should be and that is to save lives.
How naive we are! Unless we experience first hand the pain and agony of
losing a loved one we never think about it...and sometimes it takes two,
three , four or more before we wake up and speak out.

Having said this, others may do what they wish to do, and that includes
taking whatever treatment they wish. Dr. Budwig`s protocol is a Godsend and
maybe that`s why she and her views have been "isolated by the mainstream
press, the Medico-Pharmaceutical Cartel, and Government Agencies, all of
which should be protecting us." By the time we "wake up", most of our
loved ones have beeen subjected to the ill-advised policies or
mis/dis-information as advocated by these very groups, and it`s too late to
save them... again, IMHO.

Good luck on what you wish to do. For me, there is a good way and that` s
the Dr. Budwig way. Chemotherapy only adds more toxicity to the body whose
immune system is already compromised. ( See Dr. Mendolson, above mentioned
book, where less than 10% -some say less than 3 % survive chemotherapy). By
re-introducing the correct nutrition and eliminating body pollutants, we
can definitely improve our chances for success against cancer and other
diseases, and restore our health.

Dr. Budwig shows the way...first in understanding the issues involved to
recovering good health, second to provide a good road map of what to do and
not do, and lastly to assist the body to aid itself through wholesome
nutrition, especially the re-introduction of Omega 3 to our diet.
Chemotherapy only wrecks all this. The choice however, is all ours- yours
and mine- and we must respect whatever path is chosen....by whomever for
whatever....Thanks and best, Ciao for now, Mike Cinelli

----- Original Message -----
From: "Cliff Beckwith" <cliffb865@...>
To: "Flaxseed Oil 2" <FlaxSeedOil2@...>
Sent: Saturday, April 26, 2003 5:28 AM
Subject: [FlaxSeedOil2] chemo?


Hi,

I have posted this before, but there may be new folks since that time.

It is a strong example of the effect of Omega 3 without chemo.

Dr. Budwig has taken patients out of the hospital not given hours to live
and brought them to health with no chemo.

Sometimes she used enemas where they were too ill to eat.

As has been mentioned, if chemo is used in connection with FO/CC it will
probably not be too detrimental. My Oncologist is very favorable toward
FO/CC and at present will also include chemo at first, as lightly as
possible, but I wonder if the day will not come when she will change even
that.

Cliff



Thanks for talking to me on the phone and sending 10 tapes free to me. I
gave one to a scientist and the following is an email from him to me. It
was on Wednesday that I gave him the tape. The story is what happened
from that moment until Saturday. Hope you can use it.

Love

Ron McRay
****

Dear Ron,

Not only did I enjoy the tape....I only got to the first three minutes
before I realized what I was hearing. I have a very close friend that is
in a coma from complications of bladder cancer. I took the tape to his
wife. She immediately called a friend in Tyler [TX] to go by the grainery
and
get some cold pressed flax seed oil. The first three 'doses' had to be
administered by enema, but today Bill was able to eat the oil and
cottage cheese himself!!!

They had already called the 2 grown daughters to his bedside and the
hospice personnel did not expect him to live through the night!! That
was Wednesday evening and /this evening he got up and sat in his
recliner in the living room for an hour./ HIS ways are far above our
ways! What are the odds that I would just happen on to that information
in just the nick of time?





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Re: Final Reply/Alternative Cancer Therapies, Budwig Vs IPT

sitzfamily
 

Anyone who want to continue this thread, we took it to the
cancercured group.

-- In FlaxSeedOil2@..., "Milpara" <milpara@m...> wrote:
Hi Virginia,
Thanks for your prompt answer. While I find it a bit perplexing
and
confusing, I am happy that you are in better health. Rather than
raise
questions like "how do you know this" or "that", we`ll let it drop.
Wilhelm`s last post certainly put the record straight on IPT,by
giving an
insight from its founder which wasn`t as rosey a picture as you
paint. But
your case may be the exception rather than the rule.

I do wonder how much better off you would be without the 8-10% of
the
Chemotherapy drugs IPT, byonly sticking to Dr. Budwig, Vitamin C (
Dr. Linus
Pauling), and Liver extract ( Dr. Gerson), "etc?." I guess we`ll
never
know,eh? Just like how much effect Dr. Budwig had on getting
your "thick
mass" down to absolute zero...again, we`ll never know.Unless you
change your
lifestyle and remove the causes of the problems, they may come
back...

You mention "Pam" but I was corrected by her (I think) that her
name is
Jan...BTW, 714X may not have worked for the people you asked, but
it does
work for a lot more than "Chemotherapy treatment", but that`s
another
story.

Thanks again, Virginia, and I hope you 3 small children and
business are
doing well, too. What`s that ? Chocolate in you Flaxseed Oil and
low fat
cottage cheese? Ughhhh....It`s certainly time to read Dr.
Budwig!!!!
Regards and Ciao for now, Mike Cinelli
=====================================================================
=======


Re: Final Reply/Alternative Cancer Therapies, Budwig Vs IPT

Milpara
 

Hi Virginia,
Thanks for your prompt answer. While I find it a bit perplexing and
confusing, I am happy that you are in better health. Rather than raise
questions like "how do you know this" or "that", we`ll let it drop.
Wilhelm`s last post certainly put the record straight on IPT,by giving an
insight from its founder which wasn`t as rosey a picture as you paint. But
your case may be the exception rather than the rule.

I do wonder how much better off you would be without the 8-10% of the
Chemotherapy drugs IPT, byonly sticking to Dr. Budwig, Vitamin C ( Dr. Linus
Pauling), and Liver extract ( Dr. Gerson), "etc?." I guess we`ll never
know,eh? Just like how much effect Dr. Budwig had on getting your "thick
mass" down to absolute zero...again, we`ll never know.Unless you change your
lifestyle and remove the causes of the problems, they may come back...

You mention "Pam" but I was corrected by her (I think) that her name is
Jan...BTW, 714X may not have worked for the people you asked, but it does
work for a lot more than "Chemotherapy treatment", but that`s another
story.

Thanks again, Virginia, and I hope you 3 small children and business are
doing well, too. What`s that ? Chocolate in you Flaxseed Oil and low fat
cottage cheese? Ughhhh....It`s certainly time to read Dr. Budwig!!!!
Regards and Ciao for now, Mike Cinelli
============================================================================
======

----- Original Message -----
From: "sitzfamily" <sitzfamily@...>
To: <FlaxSeedOil2@...>
Sent: Saturday, April 26, 2003 11:30 AM
Subject: [FlaxSeedOil2] Re: Reply/Alternative Cancer Therapies, Budwig Vs
IPT


MIke,
I respect your opinion. And I wasn't certainly trying to convince
any one to do any thing. And I am not some infiltrator. I am a
cancer patient, dealing the second round of tumors. That makes me
stage 4. I also have 3 small children and a business. I needed a
jump start. While Dr. Budwig's diet gave me a huge boost, and a huge
7 to 8 cm diameter by 1 to 2 cm thick mass disappeared between
January and March ( not biopsied, we'll never know for sure if it
was malignant, altho the oncologist assured us in January it could
not be anything but), I felt I needed something more agressive to
get me over it quicker. I did tons of research, and with most cures
with some digging and asking questions, I could find people it
didn't work for ( like 714X), but with IPT, everytone I found said
it worked. Even with Dr. Budwig, most people were still on it, still
had malignancies. I could only find one 1 former patient. And while
Cliff's collection of testimonials is one of the MOST inspiring
colections of testimonials, I just felt like I needed something
more. I would never push anyone to do anything, and I believe cancer
can be beat with Dr. Budwig's protocol, but for me, I wanted
something faster. And IPT is not just reduced doses of chemo (
around 8-10% of the normal dose). You also get intravenous Vitamin
C, liver extract, etc depending on where you go.

And if fact, Pam who started this, joined just recently on several
lists, asking the same questions. I give her credit for researching
what's out there and asking questions.

No need to reply, to each our own paths. Time for me to go eat my
fso/cc-- think I'll make it chocolate tonight.
Virginia

--- In FlaxSeedOil2@..., "Milpara" <milpara@m...> wrote:
Hello Rose and Virginia,
"Jump start the process" ? On whose recommendation and track
record? No way,
Jose`. The Dr. Budwig approach is good enough by itself instead of
going out
into the "deep wide yonder" or "outer space." Dr. Budwig has
snatched
people from death`s doorstep, after the allopaths had given up on
them, and
that`s certainly means something ( at least to the patients!)

Your speculation in going down the Allopathic path and is akin to
Complementary Medicine where you mix, mesh and match. No thanks.
Not for
me...

Further, Doctor Budwig has a health cookbook which tells people
step by step
what to eat, not eat, what to avoid and what to include, in order
to recover
or maintain good health. Her other excellent book tells a lot
about the
whole health process and how to get rid of what caused the illness
in the
first place, how to get back in sync with nature and how to
survive well,
all in laymen`s terms..... She warns about going "off the track",
something
that these discussion seem to be doing....

Having said all this, if you still persist in following the "drug
therapies", including a watered down chemotherapy regimen like
IPT, by all
means do so, but don`t try to confuse the people who want to
follow Dr.
Budwig. This somehow smacks of a ping pong contest, well
orchestrated, and
spread among several groups. It`s a favorite ploy. Somehow, I
believe that
this list is under attack again by a lot of new people who
suddenly appear
with great medical vocabulary, a smacking of "knowing the ropes",
and
agreeing to a point while subtly leaving a confusing message.
Perhaps I am
wrong, but lately there seems to be a lot of people who
advertently or
inadvertently seem to introduce subjects that want to lead the
needy, ill
people off the correct track, that is , the Dr. Budwig regimen.
This thought
has crossed my mind more than once or twice in the last 7 to 10
days....
.
Of course, each must follow his/her protocol and I have chosen
mine. It
seems you have , too. Thank God that Dr. Budwig has given us a
true path
that doesn`t hurt people nor cost a lot of money. Her wisdom .
insight and
research are a true legacy to this Grand Lady.

Anyway, thanks for your input, I respect your right to say what
you do,
but" I`m not buying into it." Ciao for now, Regards to one and
all, Mike
Cinelli.
=====================================================================
=======
=
----- Original Message -----
From: "sitzfamily" <sitzfamily@y...>
To: <FlaxSeedOil2@...>
Sent: Friday, April 25, 2003 10:32 PM
Subject: [FlaxSeedOil2] Re: Alternative Cancer Therapies


Thanks Rose, I have been rolling these kinds of thoughts around
in
my head, formulating the same kind of response. You said it well.
Virginia

--- In FlaxSeedOil2@..., Rose Bowman
<rosiebowman@y...>
wrote:
Hello all,
Having followed the thread on IPT, alt-meds, etc, and
keeping the Budwig Protocol in mind, I'd like to offer
a few of my own comments regarding our quest for
cancer cure and quality health. I speak solely from
the perspective of a God-fearing person who believes
that God engineered our fantastic bodies and also
provides the perfect cure(s) when we're sick, and also
as one who believes in being very thorough.

Our goal in treating cancer is to kill the cancer and
build immunity concurrently. Using pure and natural
methods such as the Budwig Protocol builds the body's
defenses and allows it to heal from within, on a
cellular level, ultimately enabling the body itself to
kill the cancer. A method like the Budwig protocol,
perhaps enhanced with herbs and a wholesome,
nutrient-packed diet, is the ultimate way to overcome
cancer and will do the job over time.

If your cancer is advanced, it becomes a race to see
how quickly you can detoxify, purify, and balance your
body chemistry so as to reverse the process. Every
body is different, and some people take longer than
others. An advanced cancer may not give you time.
That is the point when you use some method to
jumpstart the process, to start killing those cancer
cells in the most benign yet effective manner
possible, while at the same time nurturing your body
with good nutrition, and I mean pouring it on thick.
The proper anti-oxidants and detoxifiers will protect
the tissues from harm, and the immune system will stop
taking a beating, rise up, and become strong.

This is exactly what IPT does. Its potency is enough
to poison the cancer but not nearly enough to be the
lethal, toxic weapon that high-dose chemo can be.
Proper nutrition and other therapies used with IPT
help negate any toxic effects that may exist while
supporting and building your defenses until your own
body can take over. Not only does the patient not
become nauseous after a treatment but actually has a
healthy appetite. Nutrients are also mixed into the
fluids during the treatment to further protect the
liver, blood, etc.

Obviously, I have an affinity for IPT and chose it for
my mother, but there are other effective treatments as
well. Again, when time is of the essence, the point
is to find methods by which to start killing the
cancer and reverse the process, allowing the body some
reprieve, which then enables the body to defend itself
and start healing. In effect, we have to stabilize,
and a very advanced cancer may not have time to do so
with diet alone. Jumpstart the process, while at the
same time nurturing the body with the correct regimen,
such as the Budwig Protocol. If you're not hurting
but only helping the body while quickly killing the
cancer, it just makes sense to me.

Rose Bowman


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Test only

Les Catterall
 

Test only. Please excuse. Les Catterall.


Re: TURMERIC'S RANKING / WHICH IS A BETER PRODUCT?

Steve Miller
 

Dry turmeric contains only 3 to 4% Curcumin which is the active anti-cancer
ingredient in turmeric. The cost of Curcumin in capsule is vastly less
expensive than buying dry or fresh turmeric.



sitzfamily wrote:

Grocery store spices are frequently irradiated, usually sprayed with
fungicide, and who knows what else. I sell organic fresh tumeric
roots, FedExed to your door from Bali at


Screen=PROD&Store_Code=netn-
XNHU4L3E4TE&Product_Code=P1032&Category_Code=SC08

Almost all of that price is FedEx, I make very little on it. You can
eat it fresh or dry and grind yourself. At least you know it's pure.

Virginia

--- In FlaxSeedOil2@..., sansrx@a... wrote:

I do
Publix is one.
Can you comment on whether Badia is, or not a better product?
Thanks
Ramon
_______________________________________________________________

Subj: RE: [pralt-discuss] TURMERIC'S RANKING
Date: 4/25/2003 10:10:14 AM Eastern Daylight Time
From: <A href="mailto:Mike.Hannon@m...">Mike.Hannon@m...</A>
Reply-to: <A href="mailto:pralt-discuss@p...">pralt-
discuss@prostate90</A>
.com
Why not just buy the spice turmeric at the grocery store?

Peace,
Mike

-----Original Message-----
From: SANSRX@a... [mailto:SANSRX@a...]
Sent: Friday, April 25, 2003 9:59 AM
To: ndoucet@j...
Cc: Foxhillers@a...; FlaxseedOil2@...;
pralt-discuss@p...
Subject: [pralt-discuss] TURMERIC'S RANKING



It's Turmeric.

Here's something I've been going throughout my everyday life.
I think I'm buying the right product, but the ingredients are in
the wrong
order or they're non-existant. This is why it takes longer to get
well or
worsen.
How many times do I hear: "If I knew then what I know now,,,,"
Perfect example re Curry Powder with ingredients ranking in order:
BADIA: (2 oz plastic bottle, I may be advised glass is best) Miami
FL.
Turmeric, Corriandre, Cumin, Fenugreek, Black Pepper, Ginger,
Mustard,
Fennel Seed, Allspice and Red Pepper.

On the other hand,

Mehran (3.5 oz cellophane sealed bag) packed by Pure Food Ltd.
Jebel Ali.
U.A.E.
Chili, Corriander, Cumin, Black Pepper, Turmeric, Cinnamon, Mace,
Clove,
Cardammom, Bay leaves, Ginger, Garlic, Salt, Mango Powder.

I would think that Turmeric being a middle eastern spice, (I
think?)
Turmeric would get first ranking among its companions/ingredients.

My unproffesional opinion tells me "go with Badia" Yes?
SHARING+LEARNING=WELLNESS

Ramn

P.S. Is it best to buy seeds, herbs in a sealed bag vs from a
glass jar with
its lid being opened 5-20 times a day @ the health food stores? I
would
think sealed is best, Yes?
____________________________________________________

Subj: Fw: [pralt-discuss] TUMERIC
Date: 4/24/2003 5:53:20 PM Eastern Daylight Time
From: ndoucet@j... <mailto:ndoucet@j...>
Reply-to: pralt-discuss@p... <mailto:pralt-discuss@p...>


Is it Tumeric or Turmeric?---Nelson

-------- Forwarded message ----------
From: SANSRX@a...
To:
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Cc: FlaxSeedOil2@...
Date: Thu, 24 Apr 2003 15:53:12 -0400
Subject: [pralt-discuss] TUMERIC
Message-ID: <272AED32.32415434.0004C403@a...>


I should derive greater benefit with straight tumeric than with
the curry
powder with its added ingredients.
Thanks for sharing
Ramon




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Re: Reply/Alternative Cancer Therapies, Budwig Vs IPT

sitzfamily
 

MIke,
I respect your opinion. And I wasn't certainly trying to convince
any one to do any thing. And I am not some infiltrator. I am a
cancer patient, dealing the second round of tumors. That makes me
stage 4. I also have 3 small children and a business. I needed a
jump start. While Dr. Budwig's diet gave me a huge boost, and a huge
7 to 8 cm diameter by 1 to 2 cm thick mass disappeared between
January and March ( not biopsied, we'll never know for sure if it
was malignant, altho the oncologist assured us in January it could
not be anything but), I felt I needed something more agressive to
get me over it quicker. I did tons of research, and with most cures
with some digging and asking questions, I could find people it
didn't work for ( like 714X), but with IPT, everytone I found said
it worked. Even with Dr. Budwig, most people were still on it, still
had malignancies. I could only find one 1 former patient. And while
Cliff's collection of testimonials is one of the MOST inspiring
colections of testimonials, I just felt like I needed something
more. I would never push anyone to do anything, and I believe cancer
can be beat with Dr. Budwig's protocol, but for me, I wanted
something faster. And IPT is not just reduced doses of chemo (
around 8-10% of the normal dose). You also get intravenous Vitamin
C, liver extract, etc depending on where you go.

And if fact, Pam who started this, joined just recently on several
lists, asking the same questions. I give her credit for researching
what's out there and asking questions.

No need to reply, to each our own paths. Time for me to go eat my
fso/cc-- think I'll make it chocolate tonight.
Virginia

--- In FlaxSeedOil2@..., "Milpara" <milpara@m...> wrote:
Hello Rose and Virginia,
"Jump start the process" ? On whose recommendation and track
record? No way,
Jose`. The Dr. Budwig approach is good enough by itself instead of
going out
into the "deep wide yonder" or "outer space." Dr. Budwig has
snatched
people from death`s doorstep, after the allopaths had given up on
them, and
that`s certainly means something ( at least to the patients!)

Your speculation in going down the Allopathic path and is akin to
Complementary Medicine where you mix, mesh and match. No thanks.
Not for
me...

Further, Doctor Budwig has a health cookbook which tells people
step by step
what to eat, not eat, what to avoid and what to include, in order
to recover
or maintain good health. Her other excellent book tells a lot
about the
whole health process and how to get rid of what caused the illness
in the
first place, how to get back in sync with nature and how to
survive well,
all in laymen`s terms..... She warns about going "off the track",
something
that these discussion seem to be doing....

Having said all this, if you still persist in following the "drug
therapies", including a watered down chemotherapy regimen like
IPT, by all
means do so, but don`t try to confuse the people who want to
follow Dr.
Budwig. This somehow smacks of a ping pong contest, well
orchestrated, and
spread among several groups. It`s a favorite ploy. Somehow, I
believe that
this list is under attack again by a lot of new people who
suddenly appear
with great medical vocabulary, a smacking of "knowing the ropes",
and
agreeing to a point while subtly leaving a confusing message.
Perhaps I am
wrong, but lately there seems to be a lot of people who
advertently or
inadvertently seem to introduce subjects that want to lead the
needy, ill
people off the correct track, that is , the Dr. Budwig regimen.
This thought
has crossed my mind more than once or twice in the last 7 to 10
days....
.
Of course, each must follow his/her protocol and I have chosen
mine. It
seems you have , too. Thank God that Dr. Budwig has given us a
true path
that doesn`t hurt people nor cost a lot of money. Her wisdom .
insight and
research are a true legacy to this Grand Lady.

Anyway, thanks for your input, I respect your right to say what
you do,
but" I`m not buying into it." Ciao for now, Regards to one and
all, Mike
Cinelli.
=====================================================================
=======
=
----- Original Message -----
From: "sitzfamily" <sitzfamily@y...>
To: <FlaxSeedOil2@...>
Sent: Friday, April 25, 2003 10:32 PM
Subject: [FlaxSeedOil2] Re: Alternative Cancer Therapies


Thanks Rose, I have been rolling these kinds of thoughts around
in
my head, formulating the same kind of response. You said it well.
Virginia

--- In FlaxSeedOil2@..., Rose Bowman
<rosiebowman@y...>
wrote:
Hello all,
Having followed the thread on IPT, alt-meds, etc, and
keeping the Budwig Protocol in mind, I'd like to offer
a few of my own comments regarding our quest for
cancer cure and quality health. I speak solely from
the perspective of a God-fearing person who believes
that God engineered our fantastic bodies and also
provides the perfect cure(s) when we're sick, and also
as one who believes in being very thorough.

Our goal in treating cancer is to kill the cancer and
build immunity concurrently. Using pure and natural
methods such as the Budwig Protocol builds the body's
defenses and allows it to heal from within, on a
cellular level, ultimately enabling the body itself to
kill the cancer. A method like the Budwig protocol,
perhaps enhanced with herbs and a wholesome,
nutrient-packed diet, is the ultimate way to overcome
cancer and will do the job over time.

If your cancer is advanced, it becomes a race to see
how quickly you can detoxify, purify, and balance your
body chemistry so as to reverse the process. Every
body is different, and some people take longer than
others. An advanced cancer may not give you time.
That is the point when you use some method to
jumpstart the process, to start killing those cancer
cells in the most benign yet effective manner
possible, while at the same time nurturing your body
with good nutrition, and I mean pouring it on thick.
The proper anti-oxidants and detoxifiers will protect
the tissues from harm, and the immune system will stop
taking a beating, rise up, and become strong.

This is exactly what IPT does. Its potency is enough
to poison the cancer but not nearly enough to be the
lethal, toxic weapon that high-dose chemo can be.
Proper nutrition and other therapies used with IPT
help negate any toxic effects that may exist while
supporting and building your defenses until your own
body can take over. Not only does the patient not
become nauseous after a treatment but actually has a
healthy appetite. Nutrients are also mixed into the
fluids during the treatment to further protect the
liver, blood, etc.

Obviously, I have an affinity for IPT and chose it for
my mother, but there are other effective treatments as
well. Again, when time is of the essence, the point
is to find methods by which to start killing the
cancer and reverse the process, allowing the body some
reprieve, which then enables the body to defend itself
and start healing. In effect, we have to stabilize,
and a very advanced cancer may not have time to do so
with diet alone. Jumpstart the process, while at the
same time nurturing the body with the correct regimen,
such as the Budwig Protocol. If you're not hurting
but only helping the body while quickly killing the
cancer, it just makes sense to me.

Rose Bowman


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Re: TURMERIC'S RANKING / WHICH IS A BETER PRODUCT?

sitzfamily
 

Grocery store spices are frequently irradiated, usually sprayed with
fungicide, and who knows what else. I sell organic fresh tumeric
roots, FedExed to your door from Bali at


Screen=PROD&Store_Code=netn-
XNHU4L3E4TE&Product_Code=P1032&Category_Code=SC08

Almost all of that price is FedEx, I make very little on it. You can
eat it fresh or dry and grind yourself. At least you know it's pure.

Virginia

--- In FlaxSeedOil2@..., sansrx@a... wrote:

I do
Publix is one.
Can you comment on whether Badia is, or not a better product?
Thanks
Ramon
_______________________________________________________________

Subj: RE: [pralt-discuss] TURMERIC'S RANKING 
Date: 4/25/2003 10:10:14 AM Eastern Daylight Time
From: <A href="mailto:Mike.Hannon@m...">Mike.Hannon@m...</A>
Reply-to: <A href="mailto:pralt-discuss@p...">pralt-
discuss@prostate90</A>
.com
Why not just buy the spice turmeric at the grocery store?

Peace,
Mike

-----Original Message-----
From: SANSRX@a... [mailto:SANSRX@a...]
Sent: Friday, April 25, 2003 9:59 AM
To: ndoucet@j...
Cc: Foxhillers@a...; FlaxseedOil2@...;
pralt-discuss@p...
Subject: [pralt-discuss] TURMERIC'S RANKING



It's Turmeric.

Here's something I've been going throughout my everyday life.
I think I'm buying the right product, but the ingredients are in
the wrong
order or they're non-existant. This is why it takes longer to get
well or
worsen.
How many times do I hear: "If I knew then what I know now,,,,"
Perfect example re Curry Powder with ingredients ranking in order:
BADIA: (2 oz plastic bottle, I may be advised glass is best) Miami
FL.
Turmeric, Corriandre, Cumin, Fenugreek, Black Pepper, Ginger,
Mustard,
Fennel Seed, Allspice and Red Pepper.

On the other hand,

Mehran (3.5 oz cellophane sealed bag) packed by Pure Food Ltd.
Jebel Ali.
U.A.E.
Chili, Corriander, Cumin, Black Pepper, Turmeric, Cinnamon, Mace,
Clove,
Cardammom, Bay leaves, Ginger, Garlic, Salt, Mango Powder.

I would think that Turmeric being a middle eastern spice, (I
think?)
Turmeric would get first ranking among its companions/ingredients.

My unproffesional opinion tells me "go with Badia" Yes?
SHARING+LEARNING=WELLNESS

鲹ó

P.S. Is it best to buy seeds, herbs in a sealed bag vs from a
glass jar with
its lid being opened 5-20 times a day @ the health food stores? I
would
think sealed is best, Yes?
____________________________________________________

Subj: Fw: [pralt-discuss] TUMERIC 
Date: 4/24/2003 5:53:20 PM Eastern Daylight Time
From: ndoucet@j... <mailto:ndoucet@j...> 
Reply-to: pralt-discuss@p... <mailto:pralt-discuss@p...>


Is it Tumeric or Turmeric?---Nelson

-------- Forwarded message ----------
From: SANSRX@a...
To:
@aol.com
Cc: FlaxSeedOil2@...
Date: Thu, 24 Apr 2003 15:53:12 -0400
Subject: [pralt-discuss] TUMERIC
Message-ID: <272AED32.32415434.0004C403@a...>


I should derive greater benefit with straight tumeric than with
the curry
powder with its added ingredients.
Thanks for sharing
Ramon



[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]


Re: combining cancer diets for synergetic results

Cliff Beckwith
 

Hi,

For those who have mentioned he Gerson diet there very well may be a Gerson
website.

I am sure that Dr. Budwig was aware of the Gerson treatment in her own
research.

I am also sure that she found a superior approach through her finding of the
necessity of mixing the FO/CC.

Cliff

----- Original Message -----
From: "Gubi" <gubisara@...>
To: <FlaxSeedOil2@...>
Sent: Friday, April 25, 2003 12:43 PM
Subject: [FlaxSeedOil2] combining cancer diets for synergetic results




Hi everyone,

Combining cancer dietary measures for achieving synergetic results:


This is with regards to someone (sympatethic) who is about to
start a cancer diet and regiment.
It seems that if one for example would like to combine the best of the
Gerson
diet (potassium supplementation, sodium restriction, calorie restriction,
protein restriction, thyroid as well as other supplements, large quantities
of vegetables
and fruits, including frequent juicing), with the best of the Budwig diet
( FSO/CC) that the following should be done:
It would be wise to start by following the building blocks of the Gerson
diet, and only after 6-8 weeks start introducing the FSO/CC.
The rational for this is the following: Gerson found that if you eliminate
dietary protein, you can cause even more of what he called Natrium
Ausschuss, sodium outpouring or flooding, out in the urine, "more and more
and more". He said you must stop dietary proteins for a period of 6 to 8
weeks in order to cause the sodium to leave the body and in order to cause
the edemas to be absorbed. In his mind, it seemed clear that sodium is
trapped in the body with protein; it is trapped in deposits of protein and
sodium complexed.

This is why I believe that this particular order of introduction of these
dietary measures is important and in my opinion superior.

I'm intrested in your opinions and input on these thoughts.

Regards, Gubi






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Re: chemo?

Milpara
 

Hi Cliff & All,
This is absolutely right on the mark. It`s all in Dr. Budwig`s books
"Flaxoil, As A True Aid To Arthritis, Heart Infarction, Cancer, And Other
Diseases", and , "The Oil-Protein Diet Cookbook". Dr. Budwig knows what she
is talking about. All that is needed is to get better informed by reading.

Oncologists who use chemotherapy must have to wrestle with a moraliy issue
every time.Some seem to care and others may actaully believe it`s the only
way to go (no pun intended!). Cliff, your Oncologist seems light years ahead
of the pack, and I wish her well in her treatments, even if her hands are
somewhat tied by archaic laws, rules and regulations as well as peer group
pressure. Dr. Budwig`s protocol is classified as food, at this time. God
bless her...

BTW, we all know cases about using Chemotherapy...
Two Examples:
My sister had two oncologists, one in favor and one against her using
chemotherapy. They could not agree so their agreed on a third one to act as
an arbitrator. This one believed in Tamoxifen and said she would never agree
to chemotherapy if it weren`t for the "excellent result" of Tamoxifen.
Luckily, I found something on Tamoxifen at the time that dissuaded my sister
"not to take Chemotherapy Treatments." She has never regretted this to date.

Also, I recall my neighbor who came down with cancer. Her husband and she
believed wholeheartedly in the doctors, and she underwent a "full course of
Chemotherapy." She did not even last the route. Read Dr. Robert Mendolson`s
book, "Dissent In Medicine", among others, and you will see that the success
rate of chemotherapy is dismally small. It has been said, " If the cancer
doesn`t get you, the chemotherapy will"...

As for IPT, why play with fire if there is another proven way out? But that
takes courage, information and positive action, which is somtimes hard to
muster, IMHO. It`s hard to believe that the agenda in hospitals, in many
cases, may not be what we believed it should be and that is to save lives.
How naive we are! Unless we experience first hand the pain and agony of
losing a loved one we never think about it...and sometimes it takes two,
three , four or more before we wake up and speak out.

Having said this, others may do what they wish to do, and that includes
taking whatever treatment they wish. Dr. Budwig`s protocol is a Godsend and
maybe that`s why she and her views have been "isolated by the mainstream
press, the Medico-Pharmaceutical Cartel, and Government Agencies, all of
which should be protecting us." By the time we "wake up", most of our
loved ones have beeen subjected to the ill-advised policies or
mis/dis-information as advocated by these very groups, and it`s too late to
save them... again, IMHO.

Good luck on what you wish to do. For me, there is a good way and that` s
the Dr. Budwig way. Chemotherapy only adds more toxicity to the body whose
immune system is already compromised. ( See Dr. Mendolson, above mentioned
book, where less than 10% -some say less than 3 % survive chemotherapy). By
re-introducing the correct nutrition and eliminating body pollutants, we
can definitely improve our chances for success against cancer and other
diseases, and restore our health.

Dr. Budwig shows the way...first in understanding the issues involved to
recovering good health, second to provide a good road map of what to do and
not do, and lastly to assist the body to aid itself through wholesome
nutrition, especially the re-introduction of Omega 3 to our diet.
Chemotherapy only wrecks all this. The choice however, is all ours- yours
and mine- and we must respect whatever path is chosen....by whomever for
whatever....Thanks and best, Ciao for now, Mike Cinelli

----- Original Message -----
From: "Cliff Beckwith" <cliffb865@...>
To: "Flaxseed Oil 2" <FlaxSeedOil2@...>
Sent: Saturday, April 26, 2003 5:28 AM
Subject: [FlaxSeedOil2] chemo?


Hi,

I have posted this before, but there may be new folks since that time.

It is a strong example of the effect of Omega 3 without chemo.

Dr. Budwig has taken patients out of the hospital not given hours to live
and brought them to health with no chemo.

Sometimes she used enemas where they were too ill to eat.

As has been mentioned, if chemo is used in connection with FO/CC it will
probably not be too detrimental. My Oncologist is very favorable toward
FO/CC and at present will also include chemo at first, as lightly as
possible, but I wonder if the day will not come when she will change even
that.

Cliff



Thanks for talking to me on the phone and sending 10 tapes free to me. I
gave one to a scientist and the following is an email from him to me. It
was on Wednesday that I gave him the tape. The story is what happened
from that moment until Saturday. Hope you can use it.

Love

Ron McRay
****

Dear Ron,

Not only did I enjoy the tape....I only got to the first three minutes
before I realized what I was hearing. I have a very close friend that is
in a coma from complications of bladder cancer. I took the tape to his
wife. She immediately called a friend in Tyler [TX] to go by the grainery
and
get some cold pressed flax seed oil. The first three 'doses' had to be
administered by enema, but today Bill was able to eat the oil and
cottage cheese himself!!!

They had already called the 2 grown daughters to his bedside and the
hospice personnel did not expect him to live through the night!! That
was Wednesday evening and /this evening he got up and sat in his
recliner in the living room for an hour./ HIS ways are far above our
ways! What are the odds that I would just happen on to that information
in just the nick of time?





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Tape from Cliff.

Kristine FRANKLIN-ROSS
 

Dear Cliff,

Thanks very much for the tape you sent me, I will be listening to it over this weekend and will then give it to my friend, I have found out she is using Flax Oil but unfortunately not with cottage cheese, she is trying to eat only raw food and is juicing veg and fruit.
I will try to impress upon her the importance of taking the oil with cottage cheese, ( she doesn't like it) maybe I will get her some quark.
She is going to Spain with a friend on the 1st of May, her friends mother recovered from breast cancer doing Gerson therapy and is going to help her with that for 2 weeks, hopefully I can talk her into doing FO/cc at the same time.

Once again, Many thanks

Kristine


Re: chemo?

Milpara
 

----- Original Message -----
From: "Cliff Beckwith" <cliffb865@...>
To: "Flaxseed Oil 2" <FlaxSeedOil2@...>
Sent: Saturday, April 26, 2003 5:28 AM
Subject: [FlaxSeedOil2] chemo?


Hi,

I have posted this before, but there may be new folks since that time.

It is a strong example of the effect of Omega 3 without chemo.

Dr. Budwig has taken patients out of the hospital not given hours to live
and brought them to health with no chemo.

Sometimes she used enemas where they were too ill to eat.

As has been mentioned, if chemo is used in connection with FO/CC it will
probably not be too detrimental. My Oncologist is very favorable toward
FO/CC and at present will also include chemo at first, as lightly as
possible, but I wonder if the day will not come when she will change even
that.

Cliff



Thanks for talking to me on the phone and sending 10 tapes free to me. I
gave one to a scientist and the following is an email from him to me. It
was on Wednesday that I gave him the tape. The story is what happened
from that moment until Saturday. Hope you can use it.

Love

Ron McRay
****

Dear Ron,

Not only did I enjoy the tape....I only got to the first three minutes
before I realized what I was hearing. I have a very close friend that is
in a coma from complications of bladder cancer. I took the tape to his
wife. She immediately called a friend in Tyler [TX] to go by the grainery
and
get some cold pressed flax seed oil. The first three 'doses' had to be
administered by enema, but today Bill was able to eat the oil and
cottage cheese himself!!!

They had already called the 2 grown daughters to his bedside and the
hospice personnel did not expect him to live through the night!! That
was Wednesday evening and /this evening he got up and sat in his
recliner in the living room for an hour./ HIS ways are far above our
ways! What are the odds that I would just happen on to that information
in just the nick of time?





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Re: chemo?

Milpara
 

----- Original Message -----
From: "Cliff Beckwith" <cliffb865@...>
To: "Flaxseed Oil 2" <FlaxSeedOil2@...>
Sent: Saturday, April 26, 2003 5:28 AM
Subject: [FlaxSeedOil2] chemo?


Hi,

I have posted this before, but there may be new folks since that time.

It is a strong example of the effect of Omega 3 without chemo.

Dr. Budwig has taken patients out of the hospital not given hours to live
and brought them to health with no chemo.

Sometimes she used enemas where they were too ill to eat.

As has been mentioned, if chemo is used in connection with FO/CC it will
probably not be too detrimental. My Oncologist is very favorable toward
FO/CC and at present will also include chemo at first, as lightly as
possible, but I wonder if the day will not come when she will change even
that.

Cliff



Thanks for talking to me on the phone and sending 10 tapes free to me. I
gave one to a scientist and the following is an email from him to me. It
was on Wednesday that I gave him the tape. The story is what happened
from that moment until Saturday. Hope you can use it.

Love

Ron McRay
****

Dear Ron,

Not only did I enjoy the tape....I only got to the first three minutes
before I realized what I was hearing. I have a very close friend that is
in a coma from complications of bladder cancer. I took the tape to his
wife. She immediately called a friend in Tyler [TX] to go by the grainery
and
get some cold pressed flax seed oil. The first three 'doses' had to be
administered by enema, but today Bill was able to eat the oil and
cottage cheese himself!!!

They had already called the 2 grown daughters to his bedside and the
hospice personnel did not expect him to live through the night!! That
was Wednesday evening and /this evening he got up and sat in his
recliner in the living room for an hour./ HIS ways are far above our
ways! What are the odds that I would just happen on to that information
in just the nick of time?





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Re: Reply/ WilhelmAlternative Cancer Therapies (IPT)

Milpara
 

Hi Wilhelm & All,
Well put. Thanks & Best, Ciao for now,Mike Cinelli
=========================================

----- Original Message -----
From: "Wilhelm Hansen" <wilhelmh@...>
To: <FlaxSeedOil2@...>
Sent: Saturday, April 26, 2003 3:52 AM
Subject: [FlaxSeedOil2] Alternative Cancer Therapies (IPT)


Hi -
There has been a fair bit of discussion on IPT. I do not doubt that it
is better than regular chemo, but it still is a chemo option and does
not correct the underlying nutritional deficiencies that may have set
off the cancer in the first place.

I don't see it as our mission on this list to promote chemo therapy of
any kind. People come here to find out about the Budwig diet. If a
person after having received information on this list decides to go the
chemo route that is their decision. We should not give any additional
encouragement to do so. If we do that we lose our value as a place of
information for alternative and natural options.

Regarding this line in Rose's post yesterday:
In effect, we have to stabilize, and a very advanced cancer may not
have time to do so with diet alone. <

One of the remarkable clinical successes of Dr.Budwig was to reverse
"very advanced cancer" with her diet and special attention.

In a 1967 Dr.Budwig said the following sentence in an interview over the
South German Radio, describing her incoming patients with failed
operations and x-ray (radiation) therapy: "Even in these cases it is
possible to restore health in a few months at most, I would truly say
90% of the time." I would interpret the above as referring to terminally
ill patients.

How do terminally ill patients fare with IPT? Here is what Dr. Donato
Perez Garcia said:
" for terminally ill patients, for quality of life improvement, if no
liver impairment, the response rate is 40% when properly administered by
an experienced IPT Doctor."

Cliff's collection of testimonials is full of stories where people with
advanced cancer (after approved treatments) started taking fo/cc and
then quickly progressed on the road to recovery.

There are those who after looking at the options choose to take IPT. I
respect that and hope they will do well with it. However, on this list
we should deal with the Budwig diet and variations thereof .

Wilhelm





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chemo?

Cliff Beckwith
 

Hi,

I have posted this before, but there may be new folks since that time.

It is a strong example of the effect of Omega 3 without chemo.

Dr. Budwig has taken patients out of the hospital not given hours to live
and brought them to health with no chemo.

Sometimes she used enemas where they were too ill to eat.

As has been mentioned, if chemo is used in connection with FO/CC it will
probably not be too detrimental. My Oncologist is very favorable toward
FO/CC and at present will also include chemo at first, as lightly as
possible, but I wonder if the day will not come when she will change even
that.

Cliff



Thanks for talking to me on the phone and sending 10 tapes free to me. I
gave one to a scientist and the following is an email from him to me. It
was on Wednesday that I gave him the tape. The story is what happened
from that moment until Saturday. Hope you can use it.

Love

Ron McRay
****

Dear Ron,

Not only did I enjoy the tape....I only got to the first three minutes
before I realized what I was hearing. I have a very close friend that is
in a coma from complications of bladder cancer. I took the tape to his
wife. She immediately called a friend in Tyler [TX] to go by the grainery
and
get some cold pressed flax seed oil. The first three 'doses' had to be
administered by enema, but today Bill was able to eat the oil and
cottage cheese himself!!!

They had already called the 2 grown daughters to his bedside and the
hospice personnel did not expect him to live through the night!! That
was Wednesday evening and /this evening he got up and sat in his
recliner in the living room for an hour./ HIS ways are far above our
ways! What are the odds that I would just happen on to that information
in just the nick of time?


Re: combining cancer diets for synergetic results

Wilhelm Hansen
 

Gubi,
an interesting idea, but for decades Dr.Budwig has been extremely successful in treating
cancer patients with her diet alone. We have also seen quick improvement in people who took
fo/cc without following much else of the Budwig diet. Based on that, I see no advantage in
delaying her diet or in taking fo/cc, ground flax seeds, etc., as soon as possible. Of course
her diet is very flexible. I am sure that parts of the Gerson diet are already included in the
Budwig diet. One example is juicing. Wilhelm


Gubi wrote:

Hi everyone,

Combining cancer dietary measures for achieving synergetic results:

This is with regards to someone (sympatethic) who is about to
start a cancer diet and regiment.
It seems that if one for example would like to combine the best of the Gerson
diet (potassium supplementation, sodium restriction, calorie restriction,
protein restriction, thyroid as well as other supplements, large quantities of vegetables
and fruits, including frequent juicing), with the best of the Budwig diet
( FSO/CC) that the following should be done:
It would be wise to start by following the building blocks of the Gerson
diet, and only after 6-8 weeks start introducing the FSO/CC.
The rational for this is the following: Gerson found that if you eliminate
dietary protein, you can cause even more of what he called Natrium
Ausschuss, sodium outpouring or flooding, out in the urine, "more and more
and more". He said you must stop dietary proteins for a period of 6 to 8
weeks in order to cause the sodium to leave the body and in order to cause
the edemas to be absorbed. In his mind, it seemed clear that sodium is
trapped in the body with protein; it is trapped in deposits of protein and
sodium complexed.

This is why I believe that this particular order of introduction of these
dietary measures is important and in my opinion superior.

I'm intrested in your opinions and input on these thoughts.

Regards, Gubi

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Alternative Cancer Therapies (IPT)

Wilhelm Hansen
 

Hi -
There has been a fair bit of discussion on IPT. I do not doubt that it
is better than regular chemo, but it still is a chemo option and does
not correct the underlying nutritional deficiencies that may have set
off the cancer in the first place.

I don't see it as our mission on this list to promote chemo therapy of
any kind. People come here to find out about the Budwig diet. If a
person after having received information on this list decides to go the
chemo route that is their decision. We should not give any additional
encouragement to do so. If we do that we lose our value as a place of
information for alternative and natural options.

Regarding this line in Rose's post yesterday:
In effect, we have to stabilize, and a very advanced cancer may not
have time to do so with diet alone. <

One of the remarkable clinical successes of Dr.Budwig was to reverse
"very advanced cancer" with her diet and special attention.

In a 1967 Dr.Budwig said the following sentence in an interview over the
South German Radio, describing her incoming patients with failed
operations and x-ray (radiation) therapy: "Even in these cases it is
possible to restore health in a few months at most, I would truly say
90% of the time." I would interpret the above as referring to terminally
ill patients.

How do terminally ill patients fare with IPT? Here is what Dr. Donato
Perez Garcia said:
" for terminally ill patients, for quality of life improvement, if no
liver impairment, the response rate is 40% when properly administered by
an experienced IPT Doctor."

Cliff's collection of testimonials is full of stories where people with
advanced cancer (after approved treatments) started taking fo/cc and
then quickly progressed on the road to recovery.

There are those who after looking at the options choose to take IPT. I
respect that and hope they will do well with it. However, on this list
we should deal with the Budwig diet and variations thereof .

Wilhelm


Re: Digest Number 723

 

Peter
I've always used a lot of seasonings, mostly fresh, in food preparation.
So, increasing and regularly using tumeric has not been a big problem. And,
it has been effective......
Also I don't see my mix of fo,fs,yo+sun as medicine but rather as another
healthy food and I modify it with flavor and texture to go along with
whatever else we are having for a meal.
mjh


n a message dated 4/25/03 1:58:46 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
FlaxSeedOil2@... writes:

From: Peter Fackelmann <pfackelmann@...>
Subject: Re: Digest Number 722

MJH -

you like the taste?
I hate it, but mixed into the FO/CC mix it's camouflaged,-)

Regards

Peter


At 21:10 Uhr +0200 24.04.2003, foxhillers@... wrote:
I get a pound of ground Tumeric in the restaurant supply house for about
$6.00 and use it in my food preparation. Cheaper than capsules and we
like
the flavor.
mjh


combining cancer diets for synergetic results

Gubi
 

Hi everyone,

Combining cancer dietary measures for achieving synergetic results:


This is with regards to someone (sympatethic) who is about to
start a cancer diet and regiment.
It seems that if one for example would like to combine the best of the Gerson
diet (potassium supplementation, sodium restriction, calorie restriction,
protein restriction, thyroid as well as other supplements, large quantities of vegetables
and fruits, including frequent juicing), with the best of the Budwig diet
( FSO/CC) that the following should be done:
It would be wise to start by following the building blocks of the Gerson
diet, and only after 6-8 weeks start introducing the FSO/CC.
The rational for this is the following: Gerson found that if you eliminate
dietary protein, you can cause even more of what he called Natrium
Ausschuss�, sodium outpouring or flooding, out in the urine, "more and more
and more". He said you must stop dietary proteins for a period of 6 to 8
weeks in order to cause the sodium to leave the body and in order to cause
the edemas to be absorbed. In his mind, it seemed clear that sodium is
trapped in the body with protein; it is trapped in deposits of protein and
sodium complexed.

This is why I believe that this particular order of introduction of these
dietary measures is important and in my opinion superior.

I'm intrested in your opinions and input on these thoughts.

Regards, Gubi






--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


Re: Alternative Cancer Therapies

 

very interesting. what is IPT?

Rose Bowman <rosiebowman@...> wrote:Hello all,
Having followed the thread on IPT, alt-meds, etc, and
keeping the Budwig Protocol in mind, I'd like to offer
a few of my own comments regarding our quest for
cancer cure and quality health. I speak solely from
the perspective of a God-fearing person who believes
that God engineered our fantastic bodies and also
provides the perfect cure(s) when we're sick, and also
as one who believes in being very thorough.

Our goal in treating cancer is to kill the cancer and
build immunity concurrently. Using pure and natural
methods such as the Budwig Protocol builds the body's
defenses and allows it to heal from within, on a
cellular level, ultimately enabling the body itself to
kill the cancer. A method like the Budwig protocol,
perhaps enhanced with herbs and a wholesome,
nutrient-packed diet, is the ultimate way to overcome
cancer and will do the job over time.

If your cancer is advanced, it becomes a race to see
how quickly you can detoxify, purify, and balance your
body chemistry so as to reverse the process. Every
body is different, and some people take longer than
others. An advanced cancer may not give you time.
That is the point when you use some method to
jumpstart the process, to start killing those cancer
cells in the most benign yet effective manner
possible, while at the same time nurturing your body
with good nutrition, and I mean pouring it on thick.
The proper anti-oxidants and detoxifiers will protect
the tissues from harm, and the immune system will stop
taking a beating, rise up, and become strong.

This is exactly what IPT does. Its potency is enough
to poison the cancer but not nearly enough to be the
lethal, toxic weapon that high-dose chemo can be.
Proper nutrition and other therapies used with IPT
help negate any toxic effects that may exist while
supporting and building your defenses until your own
body can take over. Not only does the patient not
become nauseous after a treatment but actually has a
healthy appetite. Nutrients are also mixed into the
fluids during the treatment to further protect the
liver, blood, etc.

Obviously, I have an affinity for IPT and chose it for
my mother, but there are other effective treatments as
well. Again, when time is of the essence, the point
is to find methods by which to start killing the
cancer and reverse the process, allowing the body some
reprieve, which then enables the body to defend itself
and start healing. In effect, we have to stabilize,
and a very advanced cancer may not have time to do so
with diet alone. Jumpstart the process, while at the
same time nurturing the body with the correct regimen,
such as the Budwig Protocol. If you're not hurting
but only helping the body while quickly killing the
cancer, it just makes sense to me.

Rose Bowman


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Re: Reply/Alternative Cancer Therapies, Budwig Vs IPT

Milpara
 

Hello Rose and Virginia,
"Jump start the process" ? On whose recommendation and track record? No way,
Jose`. The Dr. Budwig approach is good enough by itself instead of going out
into the "deep wide yonder" or "outer space." Dr. Budwig has snatched
people from death`s doorstep, after the allopaths had given up on them, and
that`s certainly means something ( at least to the patients!)

Your speculation in going down the Allopathic path and is akin to
Complementary Medicine where you mix, mesh and match. No thanks. Not for
me...

Further, Doctor Budwig has a health cookbook which tells people step by step
what to eat, not eat, what to avoid and what to include, in order to recover
or maintain good health. Her other excellent book tells a lot about the
whole health process and how to get rid of what caused the illness in the
first place, how to get back in sync with nature and how to survive well,
all in laymen`s terms..... She warns about going "off the track", something
that these discussion seem to be doing....

Having said all this, if you still persist in following the "drug
therapies", including a watered down chemotherapy regimen like IPT, by all
means do so, but don`t try to confuse the people who want to follow Dr.
Budwig. This somehow smacks of a ping pong contest, well orchestrated, and
spread among several groups. It`s a favorite ploy. Somehow, I believe that
this list is under attack again by a lot of new people who suddenly appear
with great medical vocabulary, a smacking of "knowing the ropes", and
agreeing to a point while subtly leaving a confusing message. Perhaps I am
wrong, but lately there seems to be a lot of people who advertently or
inadvertently seem to introduce subjects that want to lead the needy, ill
people off the correct track, that is , the Dr. Budwig regimen. This thought
has crossed my mind more than once or twice in the last 7 to 10 days....
.
Of course, each must follow his/her protocol and I have chosen mine. It
seems you have , too. Thank God that Dr. Budwig has given us a true path
that doesn`t hurt people nor cost a lot of money. Her wisdom . insight and
research are a true legacy to this Grand Lady.

Anyway, thanks for your input, I respect your right to say what you do,
but" I`m not buying into it." Ciao for now, Regards to one and all, Mike
Cinelli.
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----- Original Message -----
From: "sitzfamily" <sitzfamily@...>
To: <FlaxSeedOil2@...>
Sent: Friday, April 25, 2003 10:32 PM
Subject: [FlaxSeedOil2] Re: Alternative Cancer Therapies


Thanks Rose, I have been rolling these kinds of thoughts around in
my head, formulating the same kind of response. You said it well.
Virginia

--- In FlaxSeedOil2@..., Rose Bowman <rosiebowman@y...>
wrote:
Hello all,
Having followed the thread on IPT, alt-meds, etc, and
keeping the Budwig Protocol in mind, I'd like to offer
a few of my own comments regarding our quest for
cancer cure and quality health. I speak solely from
the perspective of a God-fearing person who believes
that God engineered our fantastic bodies and also
provides the perfect cure(s) when we're sick, and also
as one who believes in being very thorough.

Our goal in treating cancer is to kill the cancer and
build immunity concurrently. Using pure and natural
methods such as the Budwig Protocol builds the body's
defenses and allows it to heal from within, on a
cellular level, ultimately enabling the body itself to
kill the cancer. A method like the Budwig protocol,
perhaps enhanced with herbs and a wholesome,
nutrient-packed diet, is the ultimate way to overcome
cancer and will do the job over time.

If your cancer is advanced, it becomes a race to see
how quickly you can detoxify, purify, and balance your
body chemistry so as to reverse the process. Every
body is different, and some people take longer than
others. An advanced cancer may not give you time.
That is the point when you use some method to
jumpstart the process, to start killing those cancer
cells in the most benign yet effective manner
possible, while at the same time nurturing your body
with good nutrition, and I mean pouring it on thick.
The proper anti-oxidants and detoxifiers will protect
the tissues from harm, and the immune system will stop
taking a beating, rise up, and become strong.

This is exactly what IPT does. Its potency is enough
to poison the cancer but not nearly enough to be the
lethal, toxic weapon that high-dose chemo can be.
Proper nutrition and other therapies used with IPT
help negate any toxic effects that may exist while
supporting and building your defenses until your own
body can take over. Not only does the patient not
become nauseous after a treatment but actually has a
healthy appetite. Nutrients are also mixed into the
fluids during the treatment to further protect the
liver, blood, etc.

Obviously, I have an affinity for IPT and chose it for
my mother, but there are other effective treatments as
well. Again, when time is of the essence, the point
is to find methods by which to start killing the
cancer and reverse the process, allowing the body some
reprieve, which then enables the body to defend itself
and start healing. In effect, we have to stabilize,
and a very advanced cancer may not have time to do so
with diet alone. Jumpstart the process, while at the
same time nurturing the body with the correct regimen,
such as the Budwig Protocol. If you're not hurting
but only helping the body while quickly killing the
cancer, it just makes sense to me.

Rose Bowman


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