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Rob, still chuckling. Gotta try it, going camping for two weeks! Rhoda

For those interested I was listening to a PBS radio broadcast that
described the standard PSA test giving upwards of 80% false positive!
Yikes! Apparently there is a new test, not yet released, that is close
to 100% accurate. It apparently requires only a fluid sample gathered
similarly to a visit to a sperm bank. That makes the most sense to me.

Hi Everyone,

Yahoo has repaired the problem that we had on Saturday, so feel free
to send a message.

Welcome to the 59 new members who joined our group in the last week.
I hope each of you will read the Welcome Letter you received,
the 'Introduction to the Budwig Protocol' that came to your email
inbox, and the testimonials that were sent to you.

Those three documents contain links to our Files and Links Sections
which have excerpts from Dr. Budwig's books and a great deal of other
informaton.

After you have read through the documents you received, please send
us a message about yourself and ask any questions you may have.

Kind regards,
Sandra

Rhoda,

I could use a bit of background to know what you are replying to. What did Josie say that prompted this response? I am concerned that my sauerkraut wasn't really done after the 5 days in my perfect pickler. I figure it's not hurting me, but am not convinced it is serving its intended purpose.

Melanie

Dear Steve:

I am not sure I remember all the particulars of the protocol I
followed 10 years ago for NHL but it was a major cleanse: No eating
for 10 days and taking a mixture of Sonne 7 amd 9 plus
supplements...... I must say that it was very hard the first three
days, thereafter, I felt terrific and my mind was razor-sharp.

The cat scan that followed no longer showed lymphs nodes that were
swollen.

So, essentially, it was ridding the body of major toxins....

But now, I developed BC in both breasts, three years apart which
proves my immune system is still not working "properly"

I started BP a few weeks ago and feel well. I also worked with a
disciple of Dr. W. Kelly and his metabollic approach.

As Melanie stated in her post, it is often difficult and fear
inducing to choose one protocol and stick with it and not succumb to
the pull of others which often make grandiose claims of curing cancer.

I believe the Budwig protocol has solid rational foundations as it
corresponds to my belief, philosophically, of what the entire world
is based on : energy.

Martine

Steve wrote:
Hi Martine:
What alternative did you do in 98 to melt the nodes away - was it the BP ?

Martine wrote:
Steve: This is very interesting as I had mono as a highschooler. I

developed NHL follicar, small cleaved cells in 1998.......did no
treatment but alternative. The nodes melted away. BUT devloped BC in 2003 and 2006 - my oncologists see this as a depressed immune system which can not fight off cancer. Hummm After 10 years without a node, I have one that appeared on my neck, small but it is there. before going into panick mode, I will have a root canalled tooth checked, which is right above it, first. I have a strong feeling that something is brewing under the capped tooth. Looking back, I think my cancers were brought on by humongous amounts of stress over the course of many years which totally depleted my body of defense mechanisms. It probably is quite more complicated than this; however, stress is what I am trying to minimize with great difficulty.

"steve_lmcs" wrote:

I've been told there's a link (whatever that means) between

epstein-barr virus (mono) and the lymphoma I have - follicular center
cell NHL. ...In many lymphomas, recent research has shown that the "microenvinonment" within in each node can and does vary. Hence, biopsies dont always provide useful info of whats going on in the whole body, just whats going on in that particular lymph node. me personally, i've declined biopsies and bone marrow extractions.

Dear Group,
Can you make the kraut w/ himalayan salt?
Jan

Hi Josie,
Fermenting is anaerobic. Requires NO oxygen. Easy to do by simply using a
small enough jar with a lid, fill to the brim with the mix and put the lid
on. Place it in a bowl, because the fermenting process produces gasses,and
liquid will come out. Drinkable, but not the sourkraut juice we need. It
tastes quite different than regular sourkraut juice. Works better in hot
weather. Rhoda

I just don't get the buckwheat thing. I cooked the groats and ate them, but they just don't taste good to me. I know that they can be used in all kinds of fancy recipes, but how do some of you eat them when you just want a bowl of groats? Do you flavor them with something? Mine just had salt, but I wouldn't say they tasted particularly good.

Melanie

Hey y'all, mine was one of the posts that got lost in cyberspace. ;) Anyway, I have read that
postmenopausal women who drink even 1/2 glass of red wine per night have a 60% greater
risk of breast cancer. Well, I have already had that and I have no breasts anymore ... LOL

Anyway, I have been drinking 1 glass per night, of organic red wine (which I have to drive 45
minutes to find ... aaarghhhh!). Since i'm doing Budwig, do you all think this is OK in light of
that research? And no, I'm not scared or fretting ... just curious ... and drinking a glass right
now! ;) ;)

xxoo
Melissa

"iricheka" wrote:

I was wondering which herbal teas you make and how do you make this wine/honey/aloe cocktail? Is it taken from Johanna Budwig's book?

Hi all!

More people are interested in this information, I received some
private emails as well, but the information was shared with the group
already.

So, for the aloe cocktail drink, please go to my message #41125


for information on teas, please go to my message #46040


My husband, for myeloma, a blood cancer affecting also the bones
drinks: calendula, yarrow, horsetail teas. Also, green teas.
The book indicated by me, by Maria Treban, describes many teas good
for different types of diseases.

Much health to all,
Georgeta

Ben - I am so, so sorry for your loss. It had to be so hard to
watch the vibrant woman you love lose her energy and health.

Your description of your wife is so wonderful and reminds me of my
mom who died from ovarian cancer last month. And, while everyone
tells us that at least we had the time we had, and now the memories,
I would much rather have her. Grief is a process...

My heart, prayers and thoughts go out to you and your family.

-Kim

bnbgold wrote:

She/we have spent our lifetimes focusing and trying to avoid all
things which might lead to illness. She had not been to
a doctor nor even had so much as an aspirin in over 40 years. Her
vitality had been extreme up until this struck out of nowhere. She

led a passionate, intense, driven life, as was her choice and style.
She lived life on her terms, and that is the way she wanted it.

- Ben

Just checking to see if a post will come up. Time now 10:52 EDT.
Martha

We are approaching over 3 months on the BP for my mother-in-law Mary,
who has primary liver cancer and the tumors are very large at this
point.

As of late she has been having a lot of pain at night. So much that she
is unable to sleep. During the day, she seems ok and doesn't complain
about pain. The pain came on suddenly as she had just had several "good
days". We are doing everything....castor oil compresses, eldi oil
enemas and following the protocol to the letter.

We don't know what else to do and we don't know why she is having so
much pain at night.

We are wondering if we should "juice" her last meal of the day instead
of solids...

Has anyone else experienced this? How have you dealt with it?

Hi Martine:

What alternative did you do in 98 to melt the nodes away - was it the BP ?
I admire you looking into other possible factors such as root canals.

The mono I had was very intense - missed school for 3 weeks each time.
Coincidentally or not, I also had my four wisdom teeth removed about the
same time. Two and half years later I developed testicular cancer. I had
surgery to remove the tumor and then a radical (17 inch incision) surgery to
remove the lymph nodes from my front section. In retrospect, this was the
stupidest thing I've ever allowed a doctor to do. They took out a major
portion of my immune system and left me with about 300 surgical staples
(metals).

Keep reminding yourself your body was designed to heal itself. If it isn't,
like mine, there MUST be a reason(s) why not. Also keep in mind that every
person on the planet has cancer cells in their body. It's only when they
get to a certain number that they call it cancer. With the BP as the major
solution, AND looking at other contributions such as dental issues - you/we
all can overcome this condition.

Best regards, Steve

You wrote:
Steve:
This is very interesting as I had mono as a highschooler. I developed NHL follicar, small cleaved cells in 1998.......did no treatment but
alternative. The nodes melted away.
BUT devloped BC in 2003 and 2006 - my oncologists see this as a depressed immune system which can not fight off cancer. Hummm
After 10 years without a node, I have one that appeared on my neck, small but it is there. before going into panick mode, I will have a root canalled tooth checked, which is right above it, first. I have a strong feeling that something is brewing under the capped tooth.
Looking back, I think my cancers were brought on by humongous amounts of stress over the course of many years which totally depleted my body of defense mechanisms.
It probably is quite more complicated than this; however, stress is what I am trying to minimize with great difficulty.
Martine

"steve_lmcs" wrote:

Hello to all,
To Cynthia and everyone else that's interested.
My prostate cancer was found during a check-up.The
prostate was enlarged and after a month on Avodart
with no relief my urologist did a biopsy which
confirmed his feeling.I wish I had known about the BP
before I elected for surgery but now I am only looking
to the future and many years to come.(I'm only 49)
Fighting on in Apollo,PA.

Messages that were sent on Saturday after Cynthia's post were not
added to our board in a timely manner by Yahoo's system. As I write
this about noon Pacific time, I hope they will all appear eventually,
but I want to let you know that something is malfunctioning today with
the Yahoo Groups equipment.

Sandra

Hey y'all, quick question ... even though there is a correlation between alcohol consumption (even 1/2 glass) and breast cancer, do you still think it's OK for breast cancer folks to drink it? Or should we just steer clear?

xxoo
Melissa

Michele - your kind words (and those of the others here) mean so much
to me. Thank you!

Yes - Barbara was not interested in further conventional care (the
initial surgery seemed absolutely necessary in March or time would
have been very short). To her recovery meant regaining her former
level of independence and vitality. Compromise was not in her nature.
If one had to choose a single word to define Barbara; 'intense' might
well be the one. She did not fear the end.

We had 49 years together and were thinking that was just the start!

- Ben




--- In FlaxSeedOil2@..., manofharrod@... wrote:

Ben, It sounds like your wife was dynamic and knew which paths to

take. You supported her decisions, and quite obviously helped her
maintain them to the end.

You are lucky (you may not feel like it now) to have had such a

wonderful and active life together. And to be able to live your
chosen life.
This is what true life is about. What a life well spent. She will
always be with you, in your head, your heart, your memories, and in
all the other lives she has touched.

I doubt she would have chosen any further allopathic treatments,

from what you said of her personality. You were there for her and
your love must have meant so much to her, you did everything you could.

As someone who has had cancer, I have thought a lot about death, and

I've come to realise that the real pain is with the people around me
and not in myself. I could cope with what was and is thrown at me.
She would not want you to suffer.

Be strong, and I hope you find peace in the knowledge there was

nothing more you could have done.

Michele

Hi Karen and Halima,

Remember that you can do a search into out archives by using the
search box just as you would with Google. By doing a search of older
messages, I found a couple recipes for Ezekiel bread from Cheryl du
Toit, one of our excellent members who perfected ways to carry out
the Budwig plan. Karen, the 2nd link may be what you are looking for.

Here's a link to a message in which Cheryl gives a recipe for oven
baked Ezekiel bread.



In this next message, Cheryl gives a recipe for all sprouted grains
for the bread.


Sandra

"Turmeric4" wrote:

Halima,
I am having a hard time coming up with the true recipe. I thought

it would be easy. Most of the sites have some of the grain sprouted
and the rest of the recipe is just grains.

The is the best one I could come up with.

page=index_v2&id=266&c=6

If someone else can find the true recipe where all the grains are
sprouted, let us know.
Karen


"Halima" wrote:

Can someone give me please the recipe fo this bread? Thank you.

I first started using Serrapeptase with Sheri because I heard it would be good for her cough. But, after reading all the benefits, I started it myself. I didn't really have any real problems to target. One thing I have had for years is a pain in my back. For the most part it was something that I just lived with and didn't take anything for the pain. I noticed after taking Serrapeptase for about three weeks, I have no pain in my body. It's amazing stuff. I have recommended it to everyone I know.


I now order the 80,000 IU. I now take one or two a day for maintanence.

Sylvia