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Re: cabbage juice---A search under "vegetables enzyme inhibitor spray"

breathedeepnow
 

Starris,

I can also say that when my wife and I have grown lettuce, or peppers
or tomatoes or kale in our home garden, that those vegetables, when
washed, dried and kept refrigerated, have easily stayed crisp and fresh
for a week or more.

Elliot


Re: cabbage juice---A search under "vegetables enzyme inhibitor spray"

breathedeepnow
 

Starris,

Hi. What do you mean, please, by "I only know about it from work."?

Such is not the case where I live. Here in Illinois, potatoes do not
have inner brown spots, and here the only store that does not use a
water misting system on its vegetables---one that operates about once
every 60 seconds---has lettuce and other vegetables that indeed become
wilted within a very short time. I do not shop in that store, in fact,
because the vegetables are so often dried out and wilted. If stores
had a way of spraying vegetables with something to keep them from
wilting, they would not be going to the expense of using an electronic
water spray system to keep them fresh. And if the process of spraying
vegetables with a chlorine-like enzyme destroyer was as widespread as
you say, I have to think there would be information on the internet
about it. There is none that I can see.

Elliot


Re: cabbage juice--okay for your healing, Anna, but Dr. Budwig did

 

No I think that when someone is talking about cabbage juice that has been cultured should say instead "cultured cabbage juice" and not just "cabbage juice".

Anna

Anna, but Dr. Budwig did call for soured or cultured cabbage juice, not just fresh cabbage juice. I am glad you are healing, but it is in fact you, if anyone, who may be confusing fellow readers. I do strongly suggest that anyone having a problem drinking the juice one gets from the recipe in our files try making cultured cabbage juice using cultured vegetable starter.

Elliot


Re: tests for cancer and statistics

 

Statistics can be depressing if you pay attention to them. We are each
individuals, and we are all different.
The fact that we are doing things like FO/CC and other things to improve our
outlook means that we are no longer part of the statistical model.
Dont buy into the statistics!
Terry


yogurt from Trader Joes

 

Trader Joes has yogurt from Greece, the brand is called Fage.
It tastes very different from American yogurts, it has a much thicker
consistencey and is not slimy like American brands. It actually reminds me of the
Quark at Trader Joes (which is the only quark I have ever had).
I am thinking it is a good substitute for quark and cottage cheese.
I have a problem with all the additives found in cottage cheese, even the
organic kind.
Any comments
Terry


Re: cabbage juice---A search under "vegetables enzyme inhibitor spray"

Starris
 

I only know about it from work. Our organic veggies wilted and went bad in hours to days because we didn't use it. Grocery stores sell veggies two weeks old that still look fresh . . . look how long lettuce lasts, for example. It's still good a week or more after you buy it. I remember lettuce turning yellow and soft on the second day before it was treated. As for potatoes, they might be as much as two YEARS old when you buy them. You can see their age when the sprouts grow inwards instead of out and there is a brown speckled spot inside.

Starris

----- Original Message -----
From: breathedeepnow

also turned up nothing. That is strange. Where did you hear or read
about the phenomenon of supposed spraying of store bought vegetables
with a "chlorine-like enzyme inhibitor" please?








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Re: cabbage juice---A search under "vegetables enzyme inhibitor spray"

breathedeepnow
 

also turned up nothing. That is strange. Where did you hear or read
about the phenomenon of supposed spraying of store bought vegetables
with a "chlorine-like enzyme inhibitor" please?


Re: cabbage juice--A search under "vegetables enzyme inhibitor" turned up

breathedeepnow
 

nothing. I should certainly think, if this was a wide=spread practice
that there would be at least one site coming up on the first page of my
search describing such a phenomenon...?


Re: cabbage juice

breathedeepnow
 

I have never heard of this "chlorine-like enzyme inhibitor" being used
on "all store-bought veggies." Certainly it cannot be totally potent,
as storebought carrots with tops will still sprout, potatoes and sweet
potatoes will sprout, and, I certainly expect that the insides of all
vegetables and fruits would not be affected by what you are talking
about. They would have to soak the vegetables in the stuff to treat the
entire vegetable. Is there anywhere you know of that I can read about
such an enzyme inhibitor being used on store-bought vegetables?

Thanks.

Elliot


Re: cabbage juice--okay for your healing, Anna, but Dr. Budwig did

breathedeepnow
 

call for soured or cultured cabbage juice, not just fresh cabbage
juice. I am glad you are healing, but it is in fact you, if anyone, who
may be confusing fellow readers. I do strongly suggest that anyone
having a problem drinking the juice one gets from the recipe in our
files try making cultured cabbage juice using cultured vegetable
starter.

Elliot


Re: A Note From Flo! - Vanessa

W. Hansen
 

Anna,

In case someone should misunderstand your post. Low levels of sulphured proteins are found in many foods. Likewise, the vegetables you mention do contain sulphured proteins but it is very low... it is something like 6% to 15% of the sulphured proteins found in CC. These vegetables are a good food and an additional source of sulphured proteins, but they are not a substitute for Quark or CC in the Budwig Diet.

Wilhelm

There are sulphurated proteins in cruciferous vegetables (cabbage, brussel
sprouts, brocolli etc.) also there is sulphur in the alium family( onions,
garlic, leek, etc) these will deactivate the cancer cells and prevent
further mutations.

Anna


Re: cabbage juice

Starris
 

I'm late on this thread, but maybe store bought cabbage doesn't have it's enzymes because, like all other grocery store veggies, it's treated with a chlorine-like enzyme inhibitor to reduce spoilage and increase shelf life. The juice might require organic cabbage that hasn't had it's enzymes inhibited.

Starris

----- Original Message -----
From: oohthisloveis

I had the same experience. The smell was intolerable. I couldn't even
get close to it without the feeling of gagging. I never attemted the
process again. I to would like to know if there is another way of
making the cabbage juice


Re: tests for cancer

breathedeepnow
 

Yes, Wilhelm. That needs to be the philosophy of anyone with cancer who
expects to heal from it. Those statistics regarding who lives how long
with what kind of cancer are put together by people who know virtually
nothing about the real way of healing from degenerative illness. Such
numbers are to be ignored by those who are serious about getting well.


Re: A Note From Flo! - Vanessa

Sybille Haut
 

Harry, where did JB says that you should not take FO alone? I am pretty sure she suggested the intake with Quark because of a better and faster assimilation in the body, but I can't remember having read that she said it could do harm.
Do U remember which of her books said that?

Thanks, Sybille

H&M Feld <ariel@...> wrote:
You are making a BIG mistake taking flaxseed and flaxoil without a
sulfurated protein(cottage cheese). This combo helps break down the FO and
make it bio-available to the body. Even JB herself said taking FO alone can
do way more harm than good.
Harry

----- Original Message -----
From: <BocaTrader@...>
To: <FlaxSeedOil2@...>
Sent: Monday, May 09, 2005 3:43 PM
Subject: Re: [FlaxSeedOil2] Re: A Note From Flo! - Vanessa


Thanks, Karine.

I haven't actually started the protocol yet. I use flax oil and flaxseeds
all
the time but have never eaten cottage cheese. I must admit to finding it
repellant. But I am psyching myself up for it.

I had chemo friday -[ Abraxane -[ and have my hands full just taking care
of
my son. . .

I am waiting for the Budwig books to come in teh mail, I actually got one,
it
is quite short and not very specific as to HOW to acheive the results.
But I
havne't given it a lot of attention. THe cookbook one seems like it will
be
more helpful on a practical level.

THanks for your kind thoughts. I think that xeno-[estrogens caused the
cancer
and the mammogram angered it and the biopsy spread it. Plus I was not
getting enough sleep.

sleep is a factor here.

vanessa





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Re: I'm still hungry

oohthisloveis
 

Its Tim,

I guess 10am is breakfast time for me. Yes thats correct the mueli
isnt enough to fill me up. Maybe I'll try and add more.

Thanks Hansen




--- In FlaxSeedOil2@..., "W. Hansen" <wilhelmh@t...> wrote:
Hi Jim, have I your name right?

In the Budwig program carrot juice and/or other vegetable juices are
consumed mid morning (about 10:00 am), not at breakfast.

As for breakfast, are you saying that 3 tblsp FO mixed with 6 tblsp
CC and 4 tblsp ground flaxseeds and fruit and nuts still leave you
hungry? That is a big breakfast. Many people find it too much to eat.
If it is not enough for you, why don't you add proportionately more of
all of the ingredients.

Wilhelm


From: oohthisloveis
I'm tring to follow the budwig plan as closely as possible but I still
find myself hungry particularly during breakfast. The muelsi and
carrot juice is not doing it. Can you guys recommend anything else?

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Re: A Note From Flo! - Vanessa

 

There are sulphurated proteins in cruciferous vegetables (cabbage, brussel
sprouts, brocolli etc.) also there is sulphur in the alium family( onions,
garlic, leek, etc) these will deactivate the cancer cells and prevent
further mutations.

Anna

----- Original Message -----
From: <BocaTrader@...>
To: <FlaxSeedOil2@...>
Sent: Tuesday, May 10, 2005 9:34 AM
Subject: Re: [FlaxSeedOil2] Re: A Note From Flo! - Vanessa


In a message dated 5/9/05 5:33:20 PM Eastern Daylight Time, ariel@...
writes:

sulfurated protein(cottage cheese).

THanks, Harry. I took note of that when I first started reading here.
sigh.
ntohging is as easy as it ought to be!
what other sulfurated proteins are there?

I have been eating this way all my life, and my son does too. . . not that
that is good, obviously, in my situation I am humbled on the subject of
health.
I just hate to cut flax oil out of my son's diet adn he is allergic to
dairy
as are my sister and mother. I get hives too with dairy, but nothing more
major
than that. I oculd take a benadryl and do the cottage cheese thing, I
guess,
I just feel like htere must be some other source of sulfurated protein.

thank you!!

vanessa










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Re: cabbage juice

 

I juice cabbage leaves and call it cabbage juice, what you are drinking is
"cultured cabbage juice". Please use the correct terminology, so as not to
confuse fellow readers.

I cannot help you with this dilemma, because I drink cabbage juice and find
the enzymes and other antioxidants, minerals to be sufficient in my healing.

Anna


From: "Nelson Doucet" <ndoucet@...>
Right! 4 oz (1/2 cup)of cabbage juice with equal amount of water 2 to 3 times a day

----- Original Message -----
From: "Farkas" <rafarkas@...>
Nelson,
I have not made it as I have been drinking cabbage juice
instead as instructed by my naturopath. These have enzymes and other good things.
I did notice that you have to drink your 'cultured cabbage juice
diluted'is that what you did?
Anna


Re: tests for cancer

W. Hansen
 

Very well said Mike.

Wilhelm


Vanessa,

You wrote:
> According to the charts I have a 30% chance of making it
> to my moms age now.

I hope you're not accepting such a dismal prognosis as reality. You're
here, you're already eating well, you're still learning.

I have a hard time believing you're not going to do better than
statistics from a random selection of typical people. You're
exceptional, and your path is your own.

Peace,

Mike D.


Wilhelm - archives

Carolyn Kreibich
 

Wilhelm,

I have searched the archives but I can't find a letter you wrote explaining how the fo/cc mixture oxygenates the blood - how that works and how antioxidants are counter productive.

Do you recall the message number?

Thanks,
Carolyn


Re: Posting a document to download?

W. Hansen
 

Hi Neenah,

you can add a link or a URL address, but you cannot add an attachment, they are automatically deleted by the Yahoo computer.

Wilhelm


I joined the group recently. In my first post, I invited Renee to
email me privately for more information. However, I found that my
email response did not go through to her, for some reason. In addition,
other people contacted me for the additional information. So, now I
would like to post the information as a PDF document for interested
members of the group to download.

Does anyone know if there is any way to attach a file to a post or to
make a document available for download?

Thanks,

Neenah