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Hi Syd,

If you don't mind, can you please elaborate on your symptoms? Somebody
phoned me yesterday with symptoms that sound like it might be colon cancer
but I'm not sure. If you feel uncomfortable discussing this, I will
understand, and you don't have to. This person is so disgusted with doctors
that he doesn't even want to go to a doctor to have his symptoms diagnosed.
I personally think it is unwise..........maybe the only time that a GP might
be helpful....... Diagnosing symptoms :-(

Thanks, good luck and lots of strongs to you.
Cheryl

Esther,

It will be good to hear of any good progress you make. Keep us posted, OK?

Syd

Well, why not post he city you live in and see if there is a nearby list member who can help you out?

Syd

"I wish you continued progress."

Thanks Wilhelm.

Syd

Why do I keep getting these emails after I post something to this group? It
even contains my post to this group in the email to me, which is ostensibly
from the Discover Card Company.

thanks,
vanessa

Esther,

Stage 4 Colon Cancer, multiple mets to the liver. I had surgery in December and started chemo six weeks later. Quite a shock really. By the time I had symptoms I was already stage 4. Snuck up on my like a windshield on bug, to steal a phrase from another list member.

Syd

I know there is nothing in the files, but I was wondering if anyone
out there knows of anyone with Cystic Fibrosis being helped with the
Budwig Protocol. One of the mom's in my son's gymnastics class knows
a 14 year old boy who was just diagnosed with CF.

Appreciate any input I can get on the topic.

Thanks,
Kim

I'm in Boca Raton, FL. I'm sure everyone here is probably busy with their own dramas though. . .

thanks!

vanessa


syd_monk writes:

Syd:

We can cheer each other on then Syd. I am stage 4 Breast Cancer, with mets
to liver and bones.

I also had chemo at first, Have been off chemo for about 9 weeks now, don't
want to ever have chemo again. Have been on the Budwig plan for about 3 weeks
now.

Esther

In a message dated 5/5/2005 9:04:03 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,
syd_monk@... writes:

Can you give me any feedback on this approach? Do you think I should quit
the chemo right away and start Budwig? I would be interested in your
commments given the above information.



Hi Sid...I'm not Wilheilm, but I'm commenting anyway. I too did the chemo,
radiation then jumped into alternatives with gusto. I was diagnosed with
breast cancer 2.5 years ago. It is very hard to say no when you don't know any
better, and it is even hard to say know when you do know better. You must do
what feels right for you, so that you don't ever look back and say "If
only..." Just my $.02.
BarbF

arnoldgore@... wrote:

JUST RECEIVED THIS ALERT FROM ONE OF THE CLUB MEMBERS.

--
Ken, Pookie and Sammy

--

Hi Syd,
as you explain, you had your reasons for making the choice that you did. I was not being critical of your decision. However, there has been so much talk lately of doing chemo along with the Budwig Diet, that it almost sounds as if it is the way to go. That is certainly not the case in the Budwig Protocol.

My comment was meant as a reminder that chemo is not part of the Budwig Protocol. In fact, according to Dr. Budwig chemo opposes the very things that she was trying to achieve with her protocol which is to oxygenate the cells, to strengthen the immune system and to bring many other bodily functions back to normal.

You call going on chemo a race between cancer and knowledge and that chemo gives a person the time to learn about alternative treatments... Perhaps that is so in some cases, and it may have worked out that way for you, but in general, I am sorry, I am not convinced about that. Let's not forget that it was Dr. Budwig who has brought people back to health with her protocol after their conventional treatments had failed.

You ask whether I think that you should quit chemo right away... Syd, I see my role here as informing people about the Budwig Protocol and keeping this list on track... not as giving advice and making recommendations about which protocol to choose. That is up to the individual members. I am glad to hear that you tumors have shrunk by about 50%. Your course of action seems to be working. I wish you continued progress.

Wilhelm


Wilhelm,

Too true. I didn't know anything about alternative therapies when I was
diagnosed, and went along with my oncologist. In retrospect, it probably
was actually the right decision for me since my liver is riddled with
tumours and without Dr. Budwigs personal care, (I know she could save people
in my situation), I think it would have been a mistake to turn down chemo
and try some alternative therapy on my own. I would almost certainly be
dead now if I had.

That being said, the JB protocol would certainly have been superior to chemo
had I more time.

Which brings up another point, if I may; the added months chemo gave me
allowed me time to do the research to learn about alternative therapies.
Think of the position a terminal cancer patient is in when diagnosed with
only months to live and no knowledge of alternative therapies. It then
becomes a race between cancer and knowledge. Will the cancer patient
survivie long enough to learn what he or she needs to know to beat the
cancer, or will the cancer claim his or her life first. This is the role
chemo plays, it gives you time.

As for myself, since my tumours have already shrunk by 50% as of last
catscan, I will continue on with what seems to be working for now. After
chemo, then I will hit the Budwig and Gerson protocols hard to try to
prevent the all too common relapse a chemo compromised immune system allows.

Can you give me any feedback on this approach? Do you think I should quit
the chemo right away and start Budwig? I would be interested in your
commments given the above information.

And thank you for the care and time you take on this list. I have no doubt
you are personally responsible for saving at least a few lives, maybe more.

Syd

[Excerpts from the Article]
A lot of people ask me, "Mike, how can you say that chronic disease is
reversible? The American Medical Association doesn't say it's
reversible. The American Cancer Society says there's no cure for
cancer. How can you say that these diseases are reversible?"

The answer requires an understanding of a much more advanced framework
for health and the underlying causes of disease.
....they are not diseases in the way we
typically think of infectious disease like smallpox, malaria or
influenza.

Rather than being such types of diseases, our most common so-
called 'diseases' like cancer, diabetes and heart disease are actually
METABOLIC DISORDERS. They are the END RESULT of specific causes, and
when those causes are allowed to work their destruction over a long
period of time, they create a series of effects. Those effects are
diagnosed by doctors and given a name. And the name is something
like 'cancer' or 'heart disease' or 'diabetes'.

The bottom line is that the leading thinkers in conventional medicine
don't understand the causes of these diseases at all. They keep looking
for the biochemical interactions, and by doing so they're lost in the
forest. ... What they really need to do is to zoom out and look at the
holistic picture.

Wilhelm,

Too true. I didn't know anything about alternative therapies when I was diagnosed, and went along with my oncologist. In retrospect, it probably was actually the right decision for me since my liver is riddled with tumours and without Dr. Budwigs personal care, (I know she could save people in my situation), I think it would have been a mistake to turn down chemo and try some alternative therapy on my own. I would almost certainly be dead now if I had.

That being said, the JB protocol would certainly have been superior to chemo had I more time.

Which brings up another point, if I may; the added months chemo gave me allowed me time to do the research to learn about alternative therapies. Think of the position a terminal cancer patient is in when diagnosed with only months to live and no knowledge of alternative therapies. It then becomes a race between cancer and knowledge. Will the cancer patient survivie long enough to learn what he or she needs to know to beat the cancer, or will the cancer claim his or her life first. This is the role chemo plays, it gives you time.

As for myself, since my tumours have already shrunk by 50% as of last catscan, I will continue on with what seems to be working for now. After chemo, then I will hit the Budwig and Gerson protocols hard to try to prevent the all too common relapse a chemo compromised immune system allows.

Can you give me any feedback on this approach? Do you think I should quit the chemo right away and start Budwig? I would be interested in your commments given the above information.

And thank you for the care and time you take on this list. I have no doubt you are personally responsible for saving at least a few lives, maybe more.

Syd

Dear good friends,
I saw my ophthalmologis yesterday for a very thorough eye examination and discussion about
care. I have lost most of the vision in the left eye to macular degeneration but that disease has
not harmed the right eye. I have a large catarract in the right eye which is distorting vision there.
The glaucoma is being held in check which is very good. She informed me that studies have
shown that persons who daily take a mixture of ground flaxseeds with honey with oatmeal along
with a flaxseed oil and cottage cheese mixture have shown a decrease in the progression of the
macular degeneration. She also told me about some stufies being done putting flaxseed oil in
the eyes to attempt to decrease the catarracts. She caitions about doing that because the oil
could prevent the absorption of Xalatan into the eyes. Xalatan drops are put into the eyes at
bedtime are the treatment I am using for glaucoma. The eyes gradually absorb this medicine
dirmg tje next eight hours. I told her I had been putting flaxseed oil into my eyes in the
morning. She suggested changing the time to later in the day. Her concern is that the oil might
prevent the eye from absorbing the Xalatan. So I have decided to do the flaxseed oil only
twice a week at noon. It was apparent that the oil was causing a change in the thickness of the
catarracts. Time will tell.
It was of interest to me that the FO/CC with linomel and oatmeal has shown a decrease in the
macular degeneration.
I will keep you posted.
Charles Kaldahl

Thank you for asking this, Syd. I am very happy to hear the tumors are dying.
This is exactly the situation I am in. With two more chemo to get through in
this round, I want to cycle into a Gerson/Budwig protocol too.

I wish there were people to come to my house and help with the baby and help
me get all the pieces in place. It just seems so expensive and difficult. I
need alternative health insurance. I resent that the understanding that puts me
ahead of current medical paradigms also means I pay out of pocket for everything.
The poor really cannot get the best health care at this time for THESE
reasons.


In a message dated 5/5/05 9:03:51 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
syd_monk@... writes:

After
chemo, then I will hit the Budwig and Gerson protocols hard to try to
prevent the all too common relapse a chemo compromised immune system allows.

Can you give me any feedback on this approach? Do you think I should quit
the chemo right away and start Budwig? I would be interested in your
commments given the above information.

And thank you for the care and time you take on this list. I have no doubt
you are personally responsible for saving at least a few lives, maybe more.

Syd

Say Elliot

This article is to important to miss for many here that use this as a
'chat group' and fail to read something this well written.
Could you post it in a couple of pages - especially the last section?

Thanks
Rick

This is true, however when one makes that personal decision, I think
this info might be valuable to them. We all know that there are
people on this list who are currently doing the protocol and taking
chemo... and some have had good results. While I understand this
is not what JB advocated, it is still a viable option for some.

Kim

--- In FlaxSeedOil2@..., "W. Hansen" <wilhelmh@t...>
wrote:

There is always the somewhat less obvious of not taking chemo in

the first place...

Wilhelm


From: Syd Monk
To: FlaxSeedOil2@...
Sent: Thursday, May 05, 2005 9:51 AM
Subject: [FlaxSeedOil2] chemo and JB


I just wanted to post something that I am experiencing in hopes

it will help

others. Chemo makes you nauseous,and when you eat somethig

after chemo when

you are nauseous, that food is capable of always making you

nauseous, even

after chemo. It's conditioning as in Pavlov's dogs who learned

to salivate

at the ring of a bell because Pavlov always rang the bell before

feeding

them. So, a word to the wise, don't eat the fo/cc when youare

nauseous or

you just may never again be able to eat it without becoming

nauseous.

Syd

There is always the somewhat less obvious of not taking chemo in the first place...

Wilhelm


From: Syd Monk
To: FlaxSeedOil2@...
Sent: Thursday, May 05, 2005 9:51 AM
Subject: [FlaxSeedOil2] chemo and JB


I just wanted to post something that I am experiencing in hopes it will help
others. Chemo makes you nauseous,and when you eat somethig after chemo when
you are nauseous, that food is capable of always making you nauseous, even
after chemo. It's conditioning as in Pavlov's dogs who learned to salivate
at the ring of a bell because Pavlov always rang the bell before feeding
them. So, a word to the wise, don't eat the fo/cc when youare nauseous or
you just may never again be able to eat it without becoming nauseous.

Syd

Thank you for your concern Kim, I will be better able to deal with JB after chemo. In fact, that is my battle plan to prevent relapse, assuming I acheive remission. Meanwhile I will try try JB on a reduced or limited basis according to my capability day by day.

Syd