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Re: Looking for a specific type of survivor - Melanoma
Wilhelm Hansen
Michael,
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Yes, the name of the doctor was given - with phone number. The name of the patient was also given - I provided it. Detailed copies of the patient's historical records were not given, but a historical account was given - I related it in short form. What does it matter anyway. Mrs.Harriett came to Dr.Budwig with melanoma which her doctor could not help her with. She was healed. That is what counts. I am not sure what you are driving at. Do you question the truthfulness of Dr.Budwig? Wilhelm ----- Original Message -----
From: Michael Dorfman To: FlaxSeedOil2@... Sent: Tuesday, August 17, 2004 5:45 PM Subject: Re: [FlaxSeedOil2] Looking for a specific type of survivor - Melanoma Is the name of the doctor, the name of the patient, and detailed copies of the patient's historical records provided in the book. Thanks |
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Re: Budwig successes worldwide database
Wilhelm Hansen
Ulla,
You made some good points IMO. I agree with you the we are a grassroots movement and that our testimonials are a major resource in this endeavour. We would have a much harder time without them. Wilhelm From: crystalpyramid@... To: FlaxSeedOil2@... Sent: Tuesday, August 17, 2004 4:17 PM Subject: [FlaxSeedOil2] Re: Budwig successes worldwide database you wrote: >Do you know if there's a worldwide database for logging the successes (and >failures, to be fair) of Dr. Budwig's treatment according to malady? That >seems to me to be the way that people can verify and gain trust in the >protocol. The reason so many turn to caustic conventional treatments is >that it has alleged "statistics-based evidence" to back it up. well Catherine, if that existed I wonder if this group would be what it is, i.e. a grassroots movement ... this is pioneering work what is being done here and the database you are speaking of is created by "you and me" so to speak... The Files section of this group as well as www.beckwithfamily.com are the major resources for testimonials to my knowledge... hopefully, this will grow into a worldwide database! btw a similar question has been discussed before and can be found in the archives... Ulla |
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Re: Looking for a specific type of survivor - Melanoma
Wilhelm Hansen
Catherine,
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I finally get around to respond to some of the posts of Tuesday... Detailed records of all of Dr.Budwig's cases probably exist, but I have never seen them. I assume they are in the possession of her family. Without such records being made available a database of her cases is obviously not possible. A database of people who use the Budwig Protocol on their own is nearly impossible because non-compliance. There is no control over how people use the "Budwig Protocol". Some think that adding fo/cc to their diet is IT. There are about as many variations as there are people using it, meaning that the effectiveness can vary greatly from person to person based on what they take or leave out. For instance if someone takes harmful fats, high doses of antioxidants or certain drugs with it, the effectiveness can be blunted or nearly cancelled. There are many other reasons why you would be comparing apples with oranges. Dr.Budwigs had control over her patients to make sure they followed her instructions properly (she was known to be very strict) and that I am sure, made a big difference. We, on the other hand, only give information, experiences and testimonials and hope that people are sufficiently encouraged to do enough reading and research so as to follow the Budwig Protocol properly. The basic rules are in our files. Further reading, i.e. reading her books, would be very helpful and is strongly encouraged. Wilhelm ----- Original Message -----
From: Catherine Coy To: FlaxSeedOil2@... Sent: Tuesday, August 17, 2004 3:50 PM Subject: Re: [FlaxSeedOil2] Looking for a specific type of survivor - Melanoma That's very encouraging, Wilhelm...thanks for taking the time to find it and translate. Do you know if there's a worldwide database for logging the successes (and failures, to be fair) of Dr. Budwig's treatment according to malady? That seems to me to be the way that people can verify and gain trust in the protocol. The reason so many turn to caustic conventional treatments is that it has alleged "statistics-based evidence" to back it up. |
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Wayne - hunger
Wayne,
I agree it is probably the fats. If I am correct, Dr. Budwig did not recommend any meat, peanuts or eggs. I got the impression that Dr. Budwig did not use coconut oil unless it was mixed with flax seed oil. I might be wrong. To be honesst I could not see a turnip in my FO/CC smoothie for breakfast. LOL Perhaps for dinner as a salad. Thanks Rhoda A number of foods will help. Fiber foods, raw vegetables, nuts, seeds and especially almonds will help hunger. One of the best foods I use is coconut oil, peanut butter, and honey. Possibly you are missing the fats in the animal foods even more than the protein. As I have aged, I feel less need for meat. Even when I eat meat, I eat small servings, often 1/3 to 1/2 of a pork chop. It could be all the raw eggs I eat had lessened the need for meat. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ADVERTISEMENT -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Yahoo! Groups Links a.. To visit your group on the web, go to: b.. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: FlaxSeedOil2-unsubscribe@... c.. Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. |
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candy recipe!
This is from Del. I use the oleolux oils. Don't cook them and don't use the garlic and onions.
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I use raw honey. As I said last night I drizzled some honey and added an almond on top of each piece that I ate. It takes away the oil taste and I thought it was wonderful. ----- Original Message -----
From: Delano Eaton To: FlaxSeedOil2@... Sent: Monday, June 14, 2004 12:00 AM Subject: [FlaxSeedOil2] freezer candy recipe! Here it is: 1 1/2 cups VCO (I use India VCO from WFN) 2/3 c coconut flakes (organic from Woodstock is good, not sweet. I use coconut flakes from WFN which are sweet and so I can cut back on the honey) 1/2 cup nuts ( I use soaked and dehydrated nuts) 5 tablespoons cocoa powder (I use natural cocoa powder from Penskey's) 4 Tablespoons raw honey (I use the honey but I think stevia would work as well.) This recipe also calls for butter but I don't use it and it is great without it. Stir it all up in a bowl and pour into a glass dish flat like bark candy and either freeze or put in the fridge. Either way it works. Play around with the amounts for your own taste. You can also put some dried fruit in it. Enjoy! Del Note: The contents of the posts on FlaxSeedOil2 are purely educational and are not intended to diagnose or treat any illness. Always consult your doctor about the diagnosis and treatment of health problems. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ADVERTISEMENT -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Yahoo! Groups Links a.. To visit your group on the web, go to: b.. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: FlaxSeedOil2-unsubscribe@... c.. Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. |
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Re: hunger
Wayne Fugitt
Morning Rhonda,
>>You are not alone. It is not that we are hungry, my opinion, but that we are not feeling satisfied. For me it is animal protein. A number of foods will help. Fiber foods, raw vegetables, nuts, seeds and especially almonds will help hunger. One of the best foods I use is coconut oil, peanut butter, and honey. Possibly you are missing the fats in the animal foods even more than the protein. As I have aged, I feel less need for meat. Even when I eat meat, I eat small servings, often 1/3 to 1/2 of a pork chop. It could be all the raw eggs I eat had lessened the need for meat. As far as sweets I solved that one. Make the candy. Don't put all of theI understand. Your body felt like it was eating a candy bar. I think humans need to eat more often. Small servings of any good food at frequent intervals will solve many problems from digestion, to hunger, and energy levels. I have been amazed at the effect of one raw turnip for breakfast. I will feel great and have energy for several hours. Finally, something says it is time to eat again. I only use raw honey.I have 27 bee hives in my field. Also have 3 gallons of honey in the pantry. These are not my hives. The bee keeper must have 1000 hives. He harvested 70 barrels of honey this year. The heavy rains made a bumper crop of honey. Wayne ---------- --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (). Version: 6.0.740 / Virus Database: 494 - Release Date: 8/16/2004 |
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hunger
You are not alone. It is not that we are hungry, my opinion, but that we are not feeling satisfied. For me it is animal protein.
As far as sweets I solved that one. Make the candy. Don't put all of the honey in but drizzle some honey on top just before eating. I put an almond on top of each piece just before eating it as well. It was awesome. I felt as tho' I was eating a candy bar. If anyone tries it let me know. I only use raw honey. Rhoda Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ADVERTISEMENT -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Yahoo! Groups Links a.. To visit your group on the web, go to: b.. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: FlaxSeedOil2-unsubscribe@... c.. Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. |
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Re: Sauerkraut
I can add to that also, I'm always hungry too. I crave sweets as
well, Everyday, I have to fight those thoughts in my head. Flo --- In FlaxSeedOil2@..., "Free Minded" <freeminded52@h...> wrote: Catherine,that's not out of control.educational and are not intended to diagnose or treat any illness. Always consult yourdoctor about the diagnosis and treatment of health problems.----------- Yahoo! Groups Linksof Service.Internet has to offer.ca&page=byoa/prem&xAPID=1994&DI=1034&SU= rket_MSNIS_Taglines Start enjoying all the benefits of MSN? Premium right now andget the first two months FREE*. |
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Re: Sauerkraut
Catherine Coy
Would you mind reporting back, Diane, if it's not too personal? I'm
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interested in that topic (a la Hulda Clark). ----- Original Message -----
From: "Free Minded" <freeminded52@...> To: <FlaxSeedOil2@...> Sent: Wednesday, August 18, 2004 5:21 PM Subject: Re: [FlaxSeedOil2] Re: Sauerkraut Well then, I would have had those ones all my life. I am being checkedall over, I will know if there is any problem, but I doubt it.doctor > about the diagnosis and treatment of health problems.Internet has > Start enjoying all the benefits of MSN Premium right now and get theare not intended to diagnose or treat any illness. Always consult your doctor Start enjoying all the benefits of MSN Premium right now and get thenot intended to diagnose or treat any illness. Always consult your doctor about the diagnosis and treatment of health problems. Yahoo! Groups Links |
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Re: Sauerkraut
Free Minded
Well then, I would have had those ones all my life. I am being checked all over, I will know if there is any problem, but I doubt it.
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Thanks for caring, Diane ----Original Message Follows---- From: "Catherine Coy" <catherinecoy@...> Reply-To: FlaxSeedOil2@... To: <FlaxSeedOil2@...> Subject: Re: [FlaxSeedOil2] Re: Sauerkraut Date: Wed, 18 Aug 2004 16:52:29 -0700 Hmmm...Diane...don't mean to be gross here but maybe you have parasites or something like that? They're quite common. ----- Original Message -----
From: "Free Minded" <freeminded52@...> To: <FlaxSeedOil2@...> Sent: Wednesday, August 18, 2004 4:48 PM Subject: Re: [FlaxSeedOil2] Re: Sauerkraut Catherine,out of control.are not intended to diagnose or treat any illness. Always consult your doctor-------------------------------------------------------------------------- ---- Yahoo! Groups Linkshas to offer. Start enjoying all the benefits of MSN Premium right now and get thenot intended to diagnose or treat any illness. Always consult your doctor about the diagnosis and treatment of health problems. Yahoo! Groups Links_________________________________________________________________ Take charge with a pop-up guard built on patented Microsoft SmartScreen Technology Start enjoying all the benefits of MSN Premium right now and get the first two months FREE*. |
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Re: Sauerkraut
Catherine Coy
Hmmm...Diane...don't mean to be gross here but maybe you have parasites or
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something like that? They're quite common. ----- Original Message -----
From: "Free Minded" <freeminded52@...> To: <FlaxSeedOil2@...> Sent: Wednesday, August 18, 2004 4:48 PM Subject: Re: [FlaxSeedOil2] Re: Sauerkraut Catherine,out of control.are not intended to diagnose or treat any illness. Always consult your doctor---- Yahoo! Groups Linkshas to offer. Start enjoying all the benefits of MSN Premium right now and get thenot intended to diagnose or treat any illness. Always consult your doctor about the diagnosis and treatment of health problems. Yahoo! Groups Links |
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Re: Sauerkraut
Free Minded
Catherine,
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That is not that way for me. Always hungry here. Diane ----Original Message Follows---- From: "Catherine Coy" <catherinecoy@...> Reply-To: FlaxSeedOil2@... To: <FlaxSeedOil2@...> Subject: Re: [FlaxSeedOil2] Re: Sauerkraut Date: Wed, 18 Aug 2004 16:15:37 -0700 Barb, you've hit on one of the benefits of flax--an appetite that's not out of control. ----- Original Message -----
From: Barb To: fso Sent: Wednesday, August 18, 2004 4:02 PM Subject: [FlaxSeedOil2] Re: Sauerkraut Can you eat cooked sauerkraut?? I love sauerkraut but as someone else said if you hate the taste it's hard to keep up, especially when therer are so many other good things to get in you like juiced carrots, etc. I don't have much an appetite especially after all that flaxseed oil. Barb ===== "It's a fact of life that people find it much easier to believe a lie they've heard a thousand times that a fact they've never heard before." Daniel P. Reid (The reason whoever raises the most money can win an election.) __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? New and Improved Yahoo! Mail - 100MB free storage! Note: The contents of the posts on FlaxSeedOil2 are purely educational and are not intended to diagnose or treat any illness. Always consult your doctor about the diagnosis and treatment of health problems. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ADVERTISEMENT ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Links a.. To visit your group on the web, go to: b.. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: FlaxSeedOil2-unsubscribe@... c.. Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. _________________________________________________________________ Powerful Parental Controls Let your child discover the best the Internet has to offer. Start enjoying all the benefits of MSN Premium right now and get the first two months FREE*. |
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Re: Sauerkraut
Free Minded
Barb,
It is only considered heated for better conservation or so, but then I had read that it was better completely raw. I did try it and I cannot eat it that way, but the one that was only heated a bit was okay to have with meat. Diane ----Original Message Follows---- From: Barb <barb1283@...> Reply-To: FlaxSeedOil2@... To: fso <FlaxSeedOil2@...> Subject: [FlaxSeedOil2] Re: Sauerkraut Date: Wed, 18 Aug 2004 16:02:55 -0700 (PDT) Can you eat cooked sauerkraut?? I love sauerkraut but as someone else said if you hate the taste it's hard to keep up, especially when therer are so many other good things to get in you like juiced carrots, etc. I don't have much an appetite especially after all that flaxseed oil. Barb ===== "It's a fact of life that people find it much easier to believe a lie they've heard a thousand times that a fact they've never heard before." Daniel P. Reid (The reason whoever raises the most money can win an election.) __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? New and Improved Yahoo! Mail - 100MB free storage! _________________________________________________________________ MSN Calendar keeps you organized and takes the effort out of scheduling get-togethers. Start enjoying all the benefits of MSN Premium right now and get the first two months FREE*. |
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Re: Sauerkraut
Catherine Coy
Barb, you've hit on one of the benefits of flax--an appetite that's not out of control.
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From: Barb To: fso Sent: Wednesday, August 18, 2004 4:02 PM Subject: [FlaxSeedOil2] Re: Sauerkraut Can you eat cooked sauerkraut?? I love sauerkraut but as someone else said if you hate the taste it's hard to keep up, especially when therer are so many other good things to get in you like juiced carrots, etc. I don't have much an appetite especially after all that flaxseed oil. Barb ===== "It's a fact of life that people find it much easier to believe a lie they've heard a thousand times that a fact they've never heard before." Daniel P. Reid (The reason whoever raises the most money can win an election.) __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? New and Improved Yahoo! Mail - 100MB free storage! Note: The contents of the posts on FlaxSeedOil2 are purely educational and are not intended to diagnose or treat any illness. Always consult your doctor about the diagnosis and treatment of health problems. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ADVERTISEMENT ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Links a.. To visit your group on the web, go to: b.. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: FlaxSeedOil2-unsubscribe@... c.. Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. |
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Re: Sauerkraut
Barb
Can you eat cooked sauerkraut??
I love sauerkraut but as someone else said if you hate the taste it's hard to keep up, especially when therer are so many other good things to get in you like juiced carrots, etc. I don't have much an appetite especially after all that flaxseed oil. Barb ===== "It's a fact of life that people find it much easier to believe a lie they've heard a thousand times that a fact they've never heard before." Daniel P. Reid (The reason whoever raises the most money can win an election.) __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? New and Improved Yahoo! Mail - 100MB free storage! |
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Re: My visit to ELECTRO DERMAL ANALYST
Catherine Coy
Bori, you did your own double-blind study! Good for you!
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My brother did the same thing to me once...he put tap water into a "designer water" bottle and asked me to select with my eyes shut. I chose the designer water but that was only pure coincidence! "Scientific" doesn't mean squat. ----- Original Message -----
From: Boricua To: cancercured@... ; flaxseedoil2@... Sent: Wednesday, August 18, 2004 12:29 PM Subject: [FlaxSeedOil2] My visit to ELECTRO DERMAL ANALYST Dear Friends, I have no clue how many of you have been to see an Electro dermal Analyst. I must tell you I was impressed when it came to detecting all the problem areas, I mean it was amazing. The only downside, I found was that I truly believe... I mean actually know that the person who operates the machine can become buyest on the brands of supplements. Like everyone here I am skeptical, so I did something to test how honest or accurate the machine or person who operates it is. I put some members mark brand vitamins into a more expensive brand bottle. I took both bottles in and when the analyst tested the low cost member brand bottle she told me it was not good, and she said I had wasted my money. So I asked her, What about this brand? I gave her the same vitamin in a different bottle ( My little set up) and she told me it was good, it had tested perfect for me. Do they know how to manipulate the machine or was this a fluke?? I wonder????? Now what my husband and I did not like, is that she started to test each product alone, then she began to pile them all one on top of each other. If everything is done by energy reading then all those products on the scale made an effect on the reading of other products being added. I truly believe that no matter where we go there is always someone trying to make a buck out of you... I wonder about these people? Do they not fear GOD? Bori --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail Address AutoComplete - You start. We finish. Note: The contents of the posts on FlaxSeedOil2 are purely educational and are not intended to diagnose or treat any illness. Always consult your doctor about the diagnosis and treatment of health problems. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ADVERTISEMENT ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Links a.. To visit your group on the web, go to: b.. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: FlaxSeedOil2-unsubscribe@... c.. Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. |
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My visit to ELECTRO DERMAL ANALYST
Dear Friends,
I have no clue how many of you have been to see an Electro dermal Analyst. I must tell you I was impressed when it came to detecting all the problem areas, I mean it was amazing. The only downside, I found was that I truly believe... I mean actually know that the person who operates the machine can become buyest on the brands of supplements. Like everyone here I am skeptical, so I did something to test how honest or accurate the machine or person who operates it is. I put some members mark brand vitamins into a more expensive brand bottle. I took both bottles in and when the analyst tested the low cost member brand bottle she told me it was not good, and she said I had wasted my money. So I asked her, What about this brand? I gave her the same vitamin in a different bottle ( My little set up) and she told me it was good, it had tested perfect for me. Do they know how to manipulate the machine or was this a fluke?? I wonder????? Now what my husband and I did not like, is that she started to test each product alone, then she began to pile them all one on top of each other. If everything is done by energy reading then all those products on the scale made an effect on the reading of other products being added. I truly believe that no matter where we go there is always someone trying to make a buck out of you... I wonder about these people? Do they not fear GOD? Bori --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail Address AutoComplete - You start. We finish. |
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Re: Documentation
Catherine Coy
Cliff, bless your heart for the effort that you DO extend to substantiate the results of FO/CC. Sometimes, when I think of the misery that hundreds of thousands of people experience each year in an attempt to heal themselves, my heart just breaks, as I'm sure yours does. It boggles the mind that something as allegedly simple and beneficial as FO/CC doesn't get some backing--somewhere somehow--to provide the necessary evidence.
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At a melanoma support board I frequently visit, the moderator made the statement, "Evidence-based or NOTHING!" So, you see, evidence appears to be the gatekeeper for so many natural cures. I would like to draw the group's attention to this website... www.mikemilken.com As you can see, former Wall Street impresario Michael Milken is himself a prostate cancer survivor. As you travel through his website, you'll see that he has devoted untold effort and lotsa money to bring prostate cancer awareness to the forefront of cancer research, with impressive results. According to his website, he's committed to finding a way to beat this particular brand of cancer. I wonder, then, if he's even heard of Budwig? Next, please visit this site... Does anyone know anyone on their board, etc.? There must be a tiny thread somewhere that can be unraveled so that gentle, natural CURES can be made available for everyone with the imprimatur of substantiation. Catherine ----- Original Message -----
From: Cliff Beckwith To: FlaxSeedOil2@... Sent: Wednesday, August 18, 2004 9:19 AM Subject: [FlaxSeedOil2] Documentation Hi, Nothing thrills me more than seeing a discussion on the need for more complete documentation of the testimonies given on www.beckwithfamily.com and other places. How badly it is needed!! Another thing worth mentioning is that at least some other websites talking about FO/CC were inspired by this one and begun by those with further vision. I tried to do some further documentation to some extent earlier but it was physically impossible. It would take a large research staff to keep track of just the ones of which I have known. None of the testimonials on our site are made up. Poor results are not left out. They are complete and as accurate as I can make them as to what has happened. However, they are not worth a lot as to research. They are worth a lot to those with cancer who are facing an early or certain death. Just this morning a lady called from an area in Kentucky who has Ovarian Cancer. Doctors are holding out no hope. She was going to order the oil as soon as she hung up. She knows the odds. She also knows that this is her only chance and she is eager to get going. If she has success others will observe that and the practice will spread. That is all I can do. The facts and buildup on this list may eventually inspire some research people motivated by more than money to really put some time in this area. Universities are doing research on Flax Oil but not to my knowledge with the cottage cheese connection which makes it effective. Everyone that finds success, or even failure if the reasons for that failure are given, will help somone else and increase the knowledge that is needed. Cliff My former Oncologist, Dr. Petra Ketterl, is treating patients now and doing research in the Alternatives Division of the Cancer treatment Centers of America at Tulsa Oklahoma. She is one who is getting underway with what is needed. Note: The contents of the posts on FlaxSeedOil2 are purely educational and are not intended to diagnose or treat any illness. Always consult your doctor about the diagnosis and treatment of health problems. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ADVERTISEMENT ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Links a.. To visit your group on the web, go to: b.. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: FlaxSeedOil2-unsubscribe@... c.. Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. |
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