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Pee is very yellow---CARROTS!!
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Barb,
You mentioned you are drinking lots of carrot juice ....let me tell you a little story... When my son was much younger he loved beets. One morning he got up to pee and said to me it was a different color. I looked and it was reddish in color. Knowing this was not good I called the doctor immediately and they wanted him in, so off we went. They did a few tests all showing negative. AFter a few questions the doc said, what did he have to eat for dinner? Sure enough it was the beets, being a regular serving would do nothing to change his urine, eating a whole can would ! He was about 7 yrs old then and seems to have outgrown his taste for beets...now he won't eat them at all ! ~Katlee Subject: [FlaxSeedOil2] Pee is very yellow Is that from the flaxseed oil thing? Things seem much more yellow lately. Thanks, Barb |
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Plain turmeric or 95% curcuminoid?
Alex
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The curcumin that Swanson and Life Extension sells is an extract of turmeric that is standardized to contain 95% total curcuminoids. It is the curcuminoids that are believed to be the effective part of turmeric. I think you are buying plain ground up turmeric which is very inexpensive. Is that the case? However if it worked for your wife and your patients that's wonderful. Ed Brenner Date: Mon, 9 Aug 2004 23:36:45 -0700 From: "Alex Torres" <atorres@...> Subject: RE: Curcumin Source Dear Terry and Ksenjia, With 10 dollars you can get un kilo (1000 grams or approximately 1300 capsules) of curcumin. Black Pepper cost 5 dollars enough for 1000 capsules and one number 3 capsules box with 1000 empty capsules cost 12 dollars. Make your homework¡ that¡¯s the reason we are making our own curcumin. We cannot afford to make rich some health food companies¡ Alex Torres M.D. www.geocities.com/compu_dr/ -----Original Message-----
From: Ksenija oberlander [mailto:ksenija_oberlander@...] Sent: Sunday, August 08, 2004 4:55 PM To: FlaxSeedOil2@... Subject: Re: [FlaxSeedOil2] Curcumin Source Ed This is indeed a good price. Have you been taking this prfoduct and are you toleratling it well? Ksenjia steeleglas@... wrote: I purchase curcumin from www.swansonvitamins.com. I bottle of 60 caps each with 900mg plus bioperine costs $11.39. Ed Brenner |
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Curcumin and Nexrutine Plus
Ksenija
Yes each 900 mg cap is standardized to 95% curcuminoids with bioperine included. Go to www.swansonvitamins.com or do a Google search for information concerning Nexrutine Plus. Ed Brenner Date: Wed, 11 Aug 2004 23:21:29 -0700 (PDT) From: Ksenija oberlander <ksenija_oberlander@...> Subject: Re: Curcumin and Nexrutine Plus Ed Sorry I did not respond right away. I am way behind in my e-mails. I have over 600 in my box now. So you take the Swanson curcumin brand .Is it the extract form that is standardized to contain 95% of total curcumnoids?. How many mgs in each cap? Is black pepper included or do you buy it separately? Since my husband's PSA is rising at an alarming rate, we were hoping to slow it down by increasing Curcumin to the maximum,. tolerable dose. Dr. Torres suggests 3 grams a day with black pepper. I am not familiar with Nexrutine Plus. Can you give me some information on it? Thanks Ksenija steeleglas@... wrote: Ksenija I've taken this product for a few years with no known problems. I alternate 2 caps per day of curcumin with 2 caps per day of Nexrutine Plus also from Swanson Vitamins. Ed Brenner Date: Sun, 8 Aug 2004 16:54:34 -0700 (PDT) From: Ksenija oberlander <ksenija_oberlander@...> Subject: Re: Curcumin Source Ed This is indeed a good price. Have you been taking this prfoduct and are you toleratling it well? Ksenjia steeleglas@... wrote: I purchase curcumin from www.swansonvitamins.com. I bottle of 60 caps each with 900mg plus bioperine costs $11.39. Ed Brenner Date: Sat, 07 Aug 2004 20:17:02 -0000 From: "dazmolikeit" <slickpicker@...> Subject: Curcumin and food --- In FlaxSeedOil2@..., "Alex Torres" <atorres@d...> wrote: Dear Terry, Curcumin is quite aggressive with the esophagus and the gastric linen and I recommend to my patients to ingest it with food and some calcium carbonate. Hi Alex: Thanks much for your prompt reply. Life Extension also recommends taking their product with food. The reason I asked relates to the following I saw on a physician's site who advocates hormone blockade along with certain complementary supplements: "The owner of the company that makes this product recommends that men with prostate cancer be treated with two capsules three times per day on an empty stomach, although the literature that I received recommended taking it with a heavy meal. The owner of the company is aware of this, and states that the recommendation to take it with food is not correct, that it should be taken on an empty stomach. The good news is that it is inexpensive; 60 capsules cost only about $15.00. The product can be ordered by calling (888) 852-4993. The name of the company is Natural Health Consultants." Regards, Terry >> |
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Re: Good Review
In a message dated 8/13/2004 8:46:12 AM Eastern Daylight Time,
FlaxSeedOil2@... writes: As you wrote, ordering from over-seas adds a very large cost to buying Eldi Oils, and most of us are not exactly rich. :-) . . proportions. Wheatgerm's function MAY be as an antioxidant to help preventELDI oil contains flaxseed oil and wheatgerm oil. I do not know the rancidity of flaxseed oil mjh |
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cancer and politics
robert farkas
Hi group, in about 10 minutes I am going to sit down
and watch a program ew have here every night at 6:30 pm. in regards to a doctor in Western Australia who has been treating cancer patients for the last 30 years through a method called radiowave therapy. When it first aired on Monday I rang within seconds of listening to this story and of course to no surprise have not been able to get through since then. In fact the tv host explained the 6 telephone lines were jammed in the doctors rooms, 6 thousand e-mails were sent (including mine!)and the tv station was inundatted with desperate calls for help. The response has been so great that our president of the AMA and other so called experts (sarcastic), have been approached by our journalist asking why this mehtod has been "polarised" for the last 30 years.The ex cancer council president Clive Deverill incidentally has cancer and will not take this method for healing but rather orthodox methods here is the web site to give you the story that went to air on Monday http:aca.ninemsn.com.au/stories/1744.asp I find it highly iresponsible of doctors to direct their patient as their first prefernce to be chemotherapy and surgery instead of living by the golden rule of Hippocrates that "First do no harm". Love Anna Find local movie times and trailers on Yahoo! Movies. |
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Re: Pee is very yellow
Gubi
If you'r taking any B vitamins or multi that contains them that could be one
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From: "clapton330" <BSherbu968@...> To: <FlaxSeedOil2@...> Sent: Friday, August 13, 2004 5:19 AM Subject: [FlaxSeedOil2] Re: Pee is very yellow --- In FlaxSeedOil2@..., KerubKeep@a... wrote:not intended to diagnose or treat any illness. Always consult your doctorPerhaps upping your water intake might help make it lighter?Yes, very yellow urine is caused by either dehydration or certain about the diagnosis and treatment of health problems. Yahoo! Groups Links |
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Re: Pee is very yellow
clapton330
--- In FlaxSeedOil2@..., KerubKeep@a... wrote:
Perhaps upping your water intake might help make it lighter?Yes, very yellow urine is caused by either dehydration or certain vitamins in the system according to what I've read online. I know when I don't drink as much water as I usually do, that's what happens to me and as soon as I drink more, it goes away, almost instantly. Barbara |
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Re: Pee is very yellow
Catherine Coy
Barb, yes...pee is "rich."
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From: Barb To: fso Sent: Thursday, August 12, 2004 5:36 PM Subject: [FlaxSeedOil2] Pee is very yellow Is that from the flaxseed oil thing? Things seem much more yellow lately. Thanks, Barb __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail - 50x more storage than other providers! Note: The contents of the posts on FlaxSeedOil2 are purely educational and are not intended to diagnose or treat any illness. Always consult your doctor about the diagnosis and treatment of health problems. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ADVERTISEMENT ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Links a.. To visit your group on the web, go to: b.. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: FlaxSeedOil2-unsubscribe@... c.. Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. |
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Re: vitamin c
Catherine Coy
Paul, that's true, but after it works on rate, then it doesn't work on humans. Boo-o-o.
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From: Paul Cates To: FlaxSeedOil2@... Sent: Thursday, August 12, 2004 5:33 PM Subject: [FlaxSeedOil2] re: vitamin c Caroline, That may be true, but they rarely use anything on humans that hasn't worked on rats first. Paul Note: The contents of the posts on FlaxSeedOil2 are purely educational and are not intended to diagnose or treat any illness. Always consult your doctor about the diagnosis and treatment of health problems. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ADVERTISEMENT ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Links a.. To visit your group on the web, go to: b.. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: FlaxSeedOil2-unsubscribe@... c.. Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. |
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Re: Budwig's Death
Barb
Well... being in a nursing home would mean
traditional medicine takes over and it would kill the heartiest of people let alone someone her age. ..> From: "Wilhelm Hansen" <wilhelmh@...> Subject: Re: Dr Budwig's books There are many rumors floating around. She fell in her home in late 2002 and broke her upper arm. She was hospitalized and went downhill as a result of her injury. She was then placed in a nursing home where she died in May 2003 at age 94. Until her accident she was still looking after her patients. Wilhelm __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail Address AutoComplete - You start. We finish. |
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Re: Antioxidants with Budwig Diet
Barb
Now I can't remember what all the antioxidants
are! Are they the Vit A,E and D? I thought vitamin A was good to take for cancer or at least betacaritine. I've been drinking lots of carrot juice. Is that good or not?? ..> According to Dr.Budwig the reason for the anti-cancer activity is that FO (combined with quark or CC) promotes bio-oxygenation and that antioxidants interfere with that process. Wilhelm __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail - You care about security. So do we. |
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Re: Vitamin C
Catherine Coy
The problem, Paul, with mice studies is that they rarely correlate the same in humans.
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From: Paul Cates To: FlaxSeedOil2@... Sent: Thursday, August 12, 2004 5:07 PM Subject: [FlaxSeedOil2] Re: Vitamin C OK I promised if I found it I would post it. Well here it is. I know it has to do with fish oil, but the body converts LNA into the same PUFA as fish oil, so eventually the paths are equal. Notice that the addition of the chemotherapy drug cisplatin did work better with the C and E but the omega 3 was more efficient as a cancer inhibitor with out supplemental C and E. Suppression of tumor growth and metastasis by dietary fish oil combined with vitamins E and C and cisplatin. Yam D, Peled A, Shinitzky M. Department of Biological Chemistry, The Weizmann Institute of Science, Rehovot, Israel. PURPOSE: The anticancer activity of omega-3 polyunsaturated fatty acids (omega-3 PUFA) has been shown in a large number of studies. This study was undertaken to analyze the combined effect of omega-3 PUFA and antioxidative vitamins on the level of spontaneous metastatic dissemination. The supportive effect of this dietary combination on chemotherapy with cisplatin (CP) was determined in parallel. METHODS: C57BL/6J mice bearing the Lewis lung carcinoma 3LL were fed ad libitum one of three isocaloric diets containing 5% soybean oil supplemented with 40 mg/kg alpha-tocopherol acetate (SO diet), or 4% fish oil plus 1% corn oil, and basal amounts of vitamin E (FO diet) or FO diet supplemented with vitamins E and C (FO+E+C diet). These diets were tested in combination with the conventional cytotoxic agent CP in a series of regimens. Tumor growth, feed consumption, body weight, lung metastasis and lung histology were followed. RESULTS: Both the FO dietary groups showed significantly lower tumor development than the SO group in all examined parameters, indicating that omega-3 PUFA have anticancer activity. However, the FO diet, in comparison with the FO+E+C diet induced a significantly slower rate of tumor growth, and lower metastatic load, as reflected in lung weight. The decrease in the anticancer activity of FO by the addition of vitamins E and C suggests that in situ oxidation of omega- 3 PUFA underlies their anticancer action. It is thus proposed that oxidized omega-3 PUFA accumulates in the membranes and the cytosol of tumor cells, reducing their vitality and eventually leading to their death. No signs of anorexia or cachexia were observed in either FO group, in contrast to the SO group. CP treatment with the SO diet had no apparent therapeutic effect, while with the FO diets it reduced the metastatic load. The best regimen of this combined treatment was FO diet followed by CP treatment with FO diet supplemented with vitamins E and C after resection of the primary growth. This regimen could be translated to a combined therapy for human cancer. CONCLUSIONS: Diets enriched with omega-3 PUFA may have beneficial anticancer effects in particular when containing only basal amounts of antioxidants such as vitamin E or C. Furthermore, the addition of drugs which promote oxidation of omega-3 PUFA, such as ferrous salts (e.g. as prescribed for the treatment of anemia), may further increase these effects. However, the supportive effect of omega-3 PUFA in chemotherapy (e.g. with CP) increases when vitamins E and C are also included. PMID: 11221959 [PubMed - indexed for MEDLINE] --- In FlaxSeedOil2@..., "Paul Cates" <paerca@h...> wrote: > I recently read a scientific paper on the action of Vitamin C and E > on the action of omega 3's ability to slow the growth of cancer. It > turns out that the action of C and E inhibited omega 3's ability to > slow cancer even though they didn't know by what action. If I can > find that study again I will post it. > Paul Note: The contents of the posts on FlaxSeedOil2 are purely educational and are not intended to diagnose or treat any illness. Always consult your doctor about the diagnosis and treatment of health problems. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ADVERTISEMENT ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Links a.. To visit your group on the web, go to: b.. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: FlaxSeedOil2-unsubscribe@... c.. Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. |
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Re: Vitamin C
Paul Cates
OK I promised if I found it I would post it. Well here it is. I know
it has to do with fish oil, but the body converts LNA into the same PUFA as fish oil, so eventually the paths are equal. Notice that the addition of the chemotherapy drug cisplatin did work better with the C and E but the omega 3 was more efficient as a cancer inhibitor with out supplemental C and E. Suppression of tumor growth and metastasis by dietary fish oil combined with vitamins E and C and cisplatin. Yam D, Peled A, Shinitzky M. Department of Biological Chemistry, The Weizmann Institute of Science, Rehovot, Israel. PURPOSE: The anticancer activity of omega-3 polyunsaturated fatty acids (omega-3 PUFA) has been shown in a large number of studies. This study was undertaken to analyze the combined effect of omega-3 PUFA and antioxidative vitamins on the level of spontaneous metastatic dissemination. The supportive effect of this dietary combination on chemotherapy with cisplatin (CP) was determined in parallel. METHODS: C57BL/6J mice bearing the Lewis lung carcinoma 3LL were fed ad libitum one of three isocaloric diets containing 5% soybean oil supplemented with 40 mg/kg alpha-tocopherol acetate (SO diet), or 4% fish oil plus 1% corn oil, and basal amounts of vitamin E (FO diet) or FO diet supplemented with vitamins E and C (FO+E+C diet). These diets were tested in combination with the conventional cytotoxic agent CP in a series of regimens. Tumor growth, feed consumption, body weight, lung metastasis and lung histology were followed. RESULTS: Both the FO dietary groups showed significantly lower tumor development than the SO group in all examined parameters, indicating that omega-3 PUFA have anticancer activity. However, the FO diet, in comparison with the FO+E+C diet induced a significantly slower rate of tumor growth, and lower metastatic load, as reflected in lung weight. The decrease in the anticancer activity of FO by the addition of vitamins E and C suggests that in situ oxidation of omega- 3 PUFA underlies their anticancer action. It is thus proposed that oxidized omega-3 PUFA accumulates in the membranes and the cytosol of tumor cells, reducing their vitality and eventually leading to their death. No signs of anorexia or cachexia were observed in either FO group, in contrast to the SO group. CP treatment with the SO diet had no apparent therapeutic effect, while with the FO diets it reduced the metastatic load. The best regimen of this combined treatment was FO diet followed by CP treatment with FO diet supplemented with vitamins E and C after resection of the primary growth. This regimen could be translated to a combined therapy for human cancer. CONCLUSIONS: Diets enriched with omega-3 PUFA may have beneficial anticancer effects in particular when containing only basal amounts of antioxidants such as vitamin E or C. Furthermore, the addition of drugs which promote oxidation of omega-3 PUFA, such as ferrous salts (e.g. as prescribed for the treatment of anemia), may further increase these effects. However, the supportive effect of omega-3 PUFA in chemotherapy (e.g. with CP) increases when vitamins E and C are also included. PMID: 11221959 [PubMed - indexed for MEDLINE] --- In FlaxSeedOil2@..., "Paul Cates" <paerca@h...> wrote: I recently read a scientific paper on the action of Vitamin C and EIt turns out that the action of C and E inhibited omega 3's ability to |
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Re: Dr Budwig's books
Free Minded
Cliff,
I am under the impression that Barleans is selling Dr. Budwig's books? If they sell it, they could translate it, don't they? Diane ----Original Message Follows---- From: Cliff Beckwith <cliffb865@...> Reply-To: FlaxSeedOil2@... To: FlaxSeedOil2@... Subject: Re: [FlaxSeedOil2] Re: Dr Budwig's books Date: Thu, 12 Aug 2004 19:13:34 -0400 On Wednesday 11 August 2004 11:50 pm, Rhoda Freed wrote: I don't think Barleans can promote a cancer protocol. They have to*** Years ago I told Barlean's they would be welcome to use my tape any way they would like to. I was told that they could not do anything that would indicate they were suggestijng that Flax seed oil would be used as a remedy for anything. They said that they would much prefer us to do just as we had been doing and go from there. Cliff _________________________________________________________________ Scan and help eliminate destructive viruses from your inbound and outbound e-mail and attachments. Start enjoying all the benefits of MSN Premium right now and get the first two months FREE*. |
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Re: Caring for ourselves
Free Minded
Catherine,
It is not yet everyone who is ready to take charge of their health even if it is only to start eating properly. It is known for a very long that any animals that goes to show or need to be productive are put on a special diet directly related to their own genetic and their performance. Why would this be different for us? No reasons at all, besides there is no will. Well, you still see people eating crap, junk food, "smoking" (I did for a very long time,. yikes) and not taking care of their diet and of their body. Still some will be sick and other will not. Mostly the ones that are sick, very few will take their healing in charge besides the ones here. Very few will start eating properly before sickness hit them, which I did but not completely. Why when it is know all along for a very long time, unless it is because we are still not in charge of our own life? It seems that people prefers to turn their head the other way instead of taking their life in charge and until it is well normal to eat well and to take care of our health, instead of leaving it to doctors when sick, we will have to look at people that are dying from being taken in charge by those supposedly healers (doctors), those same ones blaming everyone, but themselves. Diane ----Original Message Follows---- From: "Catherine Coy" <catherinecoy@...> Reply-To: FlaxSeedOil2@... To: <FlaxSeedOil2@...> Subject: Re: [FlaxSeedOil2] Wilhelm: eldi oils Date: Thu, 12 Aug 2004 15:56:12 -0700 I would like to begin a conversation about the apparent propensity of people--even those who have cancer and presumably would like to overcome it--to not accept anecdotal evidence such as that proffered by Dr. Budwig. Presumably, she was no small time researcher in her own time, yet her work was not accepted for the breakthrough that it was. What do you think? _________________________________________________________________ Take advantage of powerful junk e-mail filters built on patented Microsoft SmartScreen Technology. Start enjoying all the benefits of MSN Premium right now and get the first two months FREE*. |
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Re: Dr Budwig's books
Cliff Beckwith
On Wednesday 11 August 2004 11:50 pm, Rhoda Freed wrote:
I don't think Barleans can promote a cancer protocol. They have to*** Years ago I told Barlean's they would be welcome to use my tape any way they would like to. I was told that they could not do anything that would indicate they were suggestijng that Flax seed oil would be used as a remedy for anything. They said that they would much prefer us to do just as we had been doing and go from there. Cliff |
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Re: Wilhelm: eldi oils
Catherine Coy
I would like to begin a conversation about the apparent propensity of people--even those who have cancer and presumably would like to overcome it--to not accept anecdotal evidence such as that proffered by Dr. Budwig. Presumably, she was no small time researcher in her own time, yet her work was not accepted for the breakthrough that it was.
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From: Wilhelm Hansen To: FlaxSeedOil2@... Sent: Thursday, August 12, 2004 3:40 PM Subject: Re: [FlaxSeedOil2] Wilhelm: eldi oils Omaga-3s can also be absorbed through the skin from other oils, notably from FO. Eldi Oils are a special blend of oils which with a particular effectiveness. I don't know the formula nor why it is specially effective. It is only available in Germany because that is where Dr. Johanna Budwig developed it and that is where it is being made. I doubt that the sales are high enough to warrant outlets elsewhere in the world. Also, by having to go back to the source, one is more assured of fresh stock. I wouldn't argue about $98 total for two bottles. I know it is a lot of money for some of us, but if that increases my chances for survival - so be it. Consider it a one time expense. The Budwig Diet would still be the cheapest protocol you can find. Many people spend that much on a couple bottles of pills. Wilhelm ----- Original Message ----- From: Barb To: fso Sent: Thursday, August 12, 2004 1:28 PM Subject: [FlaxSeedOil2] Wilhelm: eldi oils Quacky in the sense of there is one oil in the whole world that can deliver omega-3s through the skin and it is in Germany, sounds quacky. However if she isn't saying that but saying that getting omega-3's through the skin or anyway you can is desireable and these oil penetrate best is okay. I just wonder why they can only be gotten in Germany? Note: The contents of the posts on FlaxSeedOil2 are purely educational and are not intended to diagnose or treat any illness. Always consult your doctor about the diagnosis and treatment of health problems. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ADVERTISEMENT ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Links a.. To visit your group on the web, go to: b.. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: FlaxSeedOil2-unsubscribe@... c.. Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. |
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Re: Vitamin C
Catherine Coy
Wilhelm, thanks for your very thoughtful and thorough answer. It never made sense to me to take mega-doses of Vitamin C since one can't get mega-doses in nature. Dr. Budwig's hypotheses make the best sense to me, too, and were I to be stricken with cancer, I would follow it to the letter. For now, I take FO/CC prophylactically...and it helps my mild arthritis.
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From: Wilhelm Hansen To: FlaxSeedOil2@... Sent: Thursday, August 12, 2004 3:12 PM Subject: Re: [FlaxSeedOil2] Vitamin C Catherine, If you look at the research study in msg# 938 which I referred to this morning and which Paul is also referring to, you will see that the two antioxidants that were found to reduce the anti-cancer effect of FO, were vitamin E and vitamin C. What we don't know is whether the anti-cancer effect was reduced because of the vitamin E, or because of the vitamin C or because of a combined effect. Since the researchers did not answer that, I cannot be sure either. From what I have read by Dr.Budwig, she mentions antioxidants in general, not the individual ones. Linus Pauling sure did great work. So did Johanna Budwig. Pauling knew of Budwig's work and did not use it. Budwig knew of Pauling's work and did not use it. I used to be one of the original vitamin C proponents beginning in the early 1960s when 100 mg per tablet was about the highest level you could find. That was before Linus Pauling's work popularized vitamin C. Unfortunately, vitamin C didn't prevent my wife from getting cancer in the mid 1970s. I did not know about Dr.Budwig then, but had I known, I am confident that her cancer and subsequent surgery would have been avoided. When I bought Pauling's book "Cancer and Vitamin C", shortly after it was published in 1981, I was disappointed with the results he and Dr.Cameron got in that Scottish Hospital and I felt I could not rely on it in a big way for cancer prevention, but I kept taking it along with just about everything else that came along and that sounded convincing. I realize that since then more work has been done on vitamin C, and that Rath has taken this work further in conjunction with other nutrients, but my former confidence in supplemental vitamin C has never been quite the same. Then in 2000, I found out about Dr.Budwig. My disappointment with Pauling's cancer results gave way to amazement with what I read of Budwig. That seemed to be the answer. The more I read, the more I became enthused and I have concentrated on her work ever since then. I gradually dropped almost all supplements that I have been taking. Now I hardly take any of them anymore. Consider is that there have been healthy people around who lived long and productive lifes long before Linus Pauling's work with vitamin C and long before Szent-Georgi discovered it in 1937. These people in former times obviously received adequate and high quality vitamin C from fresh fruit and vegetables. This vitamin C in its natural complex is of high quality - higher in quality IMO than the man-made ascorbic acid, or in whatever form it is taken. It is quite different with essential fatty acids. They are needed for the utilization of the most basic of all our requirements: Oxygen. Without EFAs we literally suffocate. Yet the very important LNA component of the EFAs, which also has been around for eons, has gradually been replaced with hydrogenated fats by an ignorant and greedy industry in the last hundred years or so, to the point where the LNA is almost eliminated from our diets. This two pronged attack on our health (removal of LNA and introduction of hydrogenated killer fats) is more than we can stand. More and more people fall ill with all kinds of degenerative diseases, mostly cancer. This is where the Budwig Diet comes in, either to correct the health problem or to prevent it in the first place. I would not risk reducing the effectiveness of the Budwig Diet, while taking it to fight cancer, by taking antioxidant supplements of any kind, including vitamin C, unless someone can say for sure that it is not a problem. Remember, Dr.Budwig did not give her patients any pills and look at her success rate. Wilhelm ----- Original Message ----- From: Catherine Coy To: FlaxSeedOil2@... Sent: Thursday, August 12, 2004 10:11 AM Subject: Re: [FlaxSeedOil2] Vitamin C What about Vitamin C supplementation as an adjunct to Budwig? Linus Pauling did lots of valuable work re cancer/Vitamin C that makes me think it's invaluable. Note: The contents of the posts on FlaxSeedOil2 are purely educational and are not intended to diagnose or treat any illness. Always consult your doctor about the diagnosis and treatment of health problems. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ADVERTISEMENT ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Links a.. To visit your group on the web, go to: b.. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: FlaxSeedOil2-unsubscribe@... c.. Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. |
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