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HAHAHA. That is you. It doesn't last that long with me. Glad you liked it that way. Will try the raisins etc next time.
Rhoda

Del,

I strained the onion and garlic and then added it to the flaxseed oil from the freezer. I add salt when I use it. Can't imagine that it doesn't taste good.

I put the oil in the freezer for 15 minutes before starting the cooking process. When I combine then the oil has been in for 30 minutes. The hot oil melts the frozen FO.

I scrape some and put on bread or potatoes etc.

Don't use this one for the candy. I just poured the FO and coconut oil together straight for that.
Rhoda

I answered your email twice directly to you in the past. I thought I had emailed you the info personally and not for the group.
Rhoda

I don't know the details. It comes from Germany.
Rhoda


Hello Rhoda -- could you please post details about the
ratio of wheat germ to FO, etc.?



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Are we really sure we need to mix to point of no beads with magnifying glass?

Dr.Budwig was clear about mixing the fo/cc until it was a smooth cream and there was no oil visible anymore. The part with the magnifying glass only came up in connection with unstrained yogurt when I made a closer inspection of the mixture. It was not a suggestion to use a magnifying glass in the daily routine of mixing fo/cc.

You are beating the hell out of the protein in the dairy product.

You don't need to "beat the hell out of the dairy product" if you use quark. It makes the FO water soluble quickly because it has the required protein concentration.

It seems odd that discoverer of this method is German and we need to go get a German product to reproduce it.

You don't need to reproduce it, you can use cottage cheese which is similar in protein concentration - or you can make yogurt quark.

I think quark sounds like something common in Germany and therefore was used but any dairy product with high sulfur dairy protein should do.

I have read (cannot remember where) that Dr.Budwig's research that culminated into her Oil-Protein Diet began by using FO with skim milk. She must have found it unsatisfactory because she quickly switched to low fat quark. It is not a question of "any dairy with high sulfur will do". The required nutrients are sulphur bearing proteins and it depends on how much of them are present and how concentrated they are. The point is optimization. That was the purpose of our recent discussions on this topic - not what dairy product "should do". That may not be good enough.

What next we all speak German while using the protocol?

No comment

Wilhelm



----- Original Message -----
From: Barb
To: Flaxseed
Sent: Saturday, July 10, 2004 2:42 PM
Subject: [FlaxSeedOil2] Beads in the mixture


Are we really sure we need to mix to point of no
beads with magnifying glass? You are beating the
hell out of the protein in the dairy product.
It seems odd that discoverer of this method is
German and we need to go get a German product to
reproduce it. I think quark sounds like
something common in Germany and therefore was
used but any dairy product with high sulfur dairy
protein should do. What next we all speak German
while using the protocol?

Here is an old web page about omega 3s - good to review!



Twelve Points on Essential Fatty Acids
As compiled by Dr. Douglas Morrison
1. There are two essential fatty acids; these essential nutrients have
been shown by leading researchers to be necessary for both the optimum
health of the body as well as for freedom from degenerative disease.
They are known as Omega 3(alpha-linolenic acid or ALNA) and Omega 6
(linoleic acid or LA).
2. Along with proteins, essential fatty acids or EFAs are the building
blocks of cell membranes and various internal cell structures.
3. EFAs are necessary for the metabolism and transportation of
triglycerides and cholesterol.
4. EFAs are necessary for the development and the function of the
human brain.
5. EFAs are necessary for proper function of the vision, nervous
system, adrenal glands, and testes, playing a vital role in sperm
formation and conception.
6. EFAs boost metabolism, metabolic rate, energy production, and
oxygen uptake.
7. EFAs, particularly Omega 3, have been shown to decrease growth of
cancer cells, candida, and various anaerobic organisms destructive to
human health of the body.
8. EFAs are precursors to hormonelike substances known as the
prostaglandins. There are three main groups of these, known as PG1s,
PG2s, and PG3s. Prostaglandins govern platelet stickiness in the
blood, arterial muscle tone, inflammatory response, sodium excretion
through the kidneys, and immune function.
9. PG1s and PG2s are derived from Omega 6, while the PG3s come from
Omega 3. PG2s are triggered by stress and they will increase platelet
stickiness, constrict arteries, increase inflammation, decrease sodium
excretion, and inhibit immune function. Under normal circumstances the
PG3s would keep the PG2s in check; were the production of PG2s to go
unchecked serious consequences could result. A lack or deficiency of
Omega 3 will result in a lack or deficiency of PG3s. The ratio of
Omega 6 to Omega 3 is also crucial, as excess Omega 6 as compared to
Omega 3 promotes tumor formation. Research suggests that the ratio of
Omega 6 to Omega 3 should be no greater than 5:1. A typical ratio in
most people's diets is in excess of 20:1.
10. Excess non-essential fatty acids compete for a vital enzyme known
as D-6-D, thus an excess of non-essential fatty acids can result in a
functional deficiency of EFAs. Research indicates the ratio of
non-essential to essential fatty acids should be no more than 1:1. A
typical ratio for most people is in excess of 10:1, with almost all of
the essential fatty acids being Omega 6.
11. In the November 1986 Journal of the National Cancer Institute
research indicated that Omega 3 and one of its derivatives as well as
three of the derivatives of Omega 6 were seen to selectively destroy
human cancer cells in tissue culture without damaging normal cells.
12. Dr. Johanna Budwig, a German M.D. and biochemist, discovered that
the blood of cancer patients was deficient in EFAs. A yellow-green
pigment was found in place of the normal red blood pigment or
hemoglobin. Along with certain dietary improvements, she gave her
patients three or more tablespoons of fresh flax oil as a means of
getting EFAs into the body(flax oil is 55-65% Omega 3 and 15-25% Omega
6). On this program, which included no other supplements, she found
that within three months the yellow-green was replaced by red and the
cancer disappeared.

Rick wrote:

most will totally reject the rest of the web page this comes from - it
takes different mind set to 'see the light'.
...
I, Dr. Buche, have learned immensely from those medical giants!!!
...

I'd just like to add that Dr Jürgen Buche's Preventorium website
is one of my "number one"
favourite "external" websites I recommend to cancer patients and those who
are looking to improve or keep their health (incl. the above page likely of
just marginal interest to people seeking to heal of cancer)...

Ulla

I wrote to Dr. Budwig's Nephew and I still have not had any reply. Is that the correct Email Adress on the files?

Boricua



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You are right, German delicatessen stores usually carry Quark, but it often is the high fat type. Check it.

Wilhelm

The first indicator of rancidity is the bitter taste.
The bad smell of linseed oil paint comes later when the oil has become extremely rancid.

Wilhelm

Hi Jude,
it is always best not to wait until the cancer has progressed that far. On the other hand, Dr.Budwig has brought people back to health who had only days left to live...

I would begin with the Budwig Protocol immediately - including the use of Eldi Oil for external application. Have a look at our testimonials, they include 3 files of pancreatic cancer. That gives you and your dad some idea. The files also include information on Eldi Oils under "Budwig Protocol".

The two English language books are still available. The titles of the books and where to buy them is in our files under "Dr.Budwig". I understand that they are cheapest if ordered from Barleans.

Best to you and your dad,

Wilhelm


hi my family and found out a while ago that my dad has pancreatic
cancer and the doctors told him that he only has 6-12weeks to
live...i was wondering if that matters concerning the diet? and is
the book still available in bookstores? thank u -jude

At 23:39 10.07.04 +0200, you wrote:

Ricotta is only fatty; quark can be ....magerquark (low-fat quark). Ach so, pleaze uze cottich cheese ...einverstanden?
Ciao Ugo

lol

and "Quark!!" is also used in German to express "what a load of rubbish!" ;-)

(because of its similarity to the word Quatsch)

Very informative Barb, We have a little german community not far from
here. I think I will go visit and see if they have it in their stores!
Thanks,
Del

Barb wrote:

aaah, we are not discussing apples to apples! You are mixing CC not
yoghurt. Of course your mix is water soluable. It's the yoghurt and
kefir that is in question. I cannot use dairy unless it is cultured.
Somehow it works better for me. I will be making quark from yoghurt.
Del

"bob smith" wrote:

Del,
To me the key to showing if it has become water soluble is

leaving a batch sit in the refrigerator for at least 1/2 day. When I
was using the mixer there was always noticeable amounts floating on
top. I have always used cottage cheese, store bought. I would
prefer getting organic but don't live close enough to a store that has
it . I found that the organic does not keep long enough to get a big
supply.

I know there are a number of reasons why the regular dairy

products aren't good for you, but I am not concerned about the rBGH.
I believe that is the hormone used for milk production. The reason
being that reliable sources have told me that in our area the dairy
farmers used it only long enough to discover that it was far too
expensive to make up for the damage it did to a cow. Bob Smith

----- Original Message -----
From: Delano Eaton
To: FlaxSeedOil2@...
Sent: Saturday, July 10, 2004 12:05 AM
Subject: [FlaxSeedOil2] Re: beads in yogurt


Bob,
I used my handheld mixer today and had bubbles on the top when I was
done, making it hard to see oil on the top but when I turned it just
right, there they were! Refresh my memory, you are mixing with
yoghurt, aren't you? Homemade or store bought? Approximately how long
do you mix it?

Congratulations on your excellent report at the doctors! Keep up the
good work!

Del

bob smith wrote:
> Del,
> Thanks for pointing out that my message wasn't clear. I should
have said that after switching to a hand held blender there was never
the slightest trace of oil separating. When I have had to be away from
home over night I mix a batch and carry it in a small cooler. 24
hours later there is no separation.
> I did say that "This proved to me that unless you used a hand
held blender you were not making it water soluble"
> What I've been doing the last 2 years must have done some good. I
was in for a chekup yesterday and my Dr. told me the Ct and pet scans
they had recently taken showed no sign of cancer (Non Hodgkins) Bob
Smith
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Delano Eaton
> To: FlaxSeedOil2@...
> Sent: Friday, July 09, 2004 9:27 AM
> Subject: [FlaxSeedOil2] Re: beads in yogurt
>
>
> Hi Bob,
>
> Sounds like you are saying 2 things here that contradict each

other,

> the way I read your post.
> First you say that you use a hand-held mixer to mix and you

find the

> oil on the top by noon. Then you turnaround and say that

UNLESS you

> use a hand held mixer it is not water soluable. To me, yours

is not

> water-soluable as you found oil on it later on. I have a hand-held
> mixer and will try it today. Thanks for you addition to this

study.

>
> Del
>
>
> > When I started taking FO/CC I used a hand held mixer. I

mixed a 6

> Tbsp FO in the morning and took 1/2 for breakfast and the rest for
> lunch or dinner. By noon a noticeable amount would be on the

surface

> and if left until evening a lot more. This proved to me that

unless

> you use a hand held blender you were not making it water

soluble.

> That could be a reason why there are occasional reports of the

Budwig

> Protocol not working. Bob Smith
> > From: Barb
> > To: FlaxSeed
> > Sent: Thursday, July 08, 2004 12:21 PM
> > Subject: [FlaxSeedOil2] beads in yogurt
> >
> >
> > Del and others,
> > Del said he took out magnifiying glass and saw
> > beads in his fo/yogurt combo. Do you need to let
> > it 'sit' for awhile before you do this test? I
> > did same thing with my Brown Cow organic yogurt
> > with flaxseed oil and saw no beads. I had
> > glasses on also. I looked at it right after
> > stirring though.
> > I guess Del, you tried just stirring it more?
> > Thanks
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
>
>
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and are not intended to diagnose or treat any illness. Always consult
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hi my family and found out a while ago that my dad has pancreatic
cancer and the doctors told him that he only has 6-12weeks to
live...i was wondering if that matters concerning the diet? and is
the book still available in bookstores? thank u -jude

--- In FlaxSeedOil2@..., Barb <barb1283@y...> wrote:
Barb,
I am very satified with it and would buy it again. I make yogurt
and quark with it. Local cottage cheese and yogurt that is available
has too many fillers, antibiotics etc. The milk I buy has been ultra-
pasterized but other than that is organic.
Nelson

Nelson,
How do you like the Salton yogurt maker? I have
wanted to get a yogurt maker until I found the
whole food store I go to now that has such
excellent organic yogurt but still may do this.
Thanks.




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In a message dated 7/10/04 9:44:56 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
wizdom48@... writes:

<< hi my family and found out a while ago that my dad has pancreatic
cancer and the doctors told him that he only has 6-12weeks to
live >>

7/10/04
Hi Jude
If your dad is able to eat well, then he has to put his whole heart into
trying for a cure. The human body does not want to be ill, it wants to be well. If
given a chance it may be able to heal itself.
I am enclosing some info, that may be useful to you for your dad and your
whole family. READ BELOW:
(#1)
1) There are a lot of great websites on health & nutrition. For a starter, go
to www.garynull.com and www.herbdoc.com.
(2) Do not use aluminum pots which is very bad for anyone.(aluminum leaching
into the food)
(3) Juicing green vegetables is the best way to get nutrients to the body,
where they are needed. (80% of your food intake (if possible) should be raw or
SLIGHTLY steamed veggies)
(4) Have fruit only in the morning.(except for apples, they seem to go good
with vegetables)
(5) Also, sugar and processed foods are very bad for anyone who has health
problems.PROCESSED SUGAR IS THE FOOD FOR CANCERS CELLS. Read labels.
(6) Do not eat white bread, use ORGANIC spelt or multi-grain bread.
(7) Please do not drink tap water. For now, use bottled water, until you can
get a Reverse-Osmosis UV water filter hooked up to your kitchen sink. (The UV
stands for the Ultra-Violet unit that is attached to the Reverse-Osmosis water
filter that sterilizes the water) They also sell little filters for the
showerhead that remove the chlorine (and other contaminants) from the water. You
can't imagine how much chlorine you can absorb thru the skin and you know how
toxic chlorine is.
(8) Do not use room deoderizer that plug into your wall sockets.
(9) Do not use any kind of canned sprays of any kind.
(10)Check for parasites, a lot of us do have parasites and don't even know
it. There is a parasite called a 'fluke' that Doctor Hulda Clark says is the
cause of cancer.Check her websites out.One of them is:
www.drhuldaclark.org/therapy_parasite.asp
(11)Go on a Dr. Schulze Bowel Cleansing. His website is: www.HERBDOC.com
(12)Some of your problems may stem from environmental pollutions that you are
not aware of.
I hope you do not have wall to wall carpeting. If you do, DO NOT use
commercial rug cleaner. If it can effect cats immune systems, it can affect humans
also. How many mothers put their babies on the rug for a nap? Try to find a
non-caustic type of rug cleaner, if the rugs cannot be removed for any reason.
Make sure your bed is not near a wall that has a TV or a Computer on the wall
behind your bed (even if it is in another room).Also the main electric line
coming into your house should not be near your bed (or couch)

If you would like more info on any of the above subjects, I could send you
some good articles. There are many little known hints that can help avoid
health problems. Let me know what supplements you are taking and how many pets
you have in your house, if any.
(#2)
Don't you see that you should be doing everything that you can to help your
body build up its immunity? I understand that you believe in Dr. Budwig's
protocol, as I too believe in it. But I don't think you should be stopping there. I
do believe that she would say the same..
First of all, the info that I gave you on cleansing of the colon, THAT IS
THE MOST IMPORTANT PROTOCOL YOU COULD DO. MOST DISEASES START WITH A DIRTY
COLON. Most people carry about 20 to 30 pounds of rancid feces in them. Then take
a kidney cleansing.
And also , REFINED SUGAR IS THE FOOD FOR CANCER CELLS.. You should not use
ANY dairy products EXCEPT the Cottage Cheese that you mix with Dr. Budwig's
Flax seed Oil & Cottage Cheese recipe.
Please go to www.herbdoc.com for the colon cleansing package.
Also go to www.garynull.com and write to him (there is a page on his website
that you can write to him) and check out his info on liver,colon and kidney
cleanses.
You also mention two other people who have cancer. Please relay this info to
them. Also, would you please email me and let me know that you have received
this
email, because I have no way of knowing if you have received it or not.
I also asked you if it could be something in your environment that has made
you and your family & friends ill.To much of a coincidence.Please write.
Sincerely, melin1898@...
(#3)
Flaxseed oil - cottage cheese mixture (fo/cc).
Ratio:
Each tablespoon (15 ml) of Flaxseed Oil (FO) is mixed with 2 or more
tablespoons of low-fat Quark or Cottage Cheese (CC). That is a fo/cc ratio of 1:2.

Mixing:
It is important to mix fo/cc until it is a smooth cream and that there is no
more FO visible. A bit of milk is added for easier mixing.
(If unstrained yogurt is used no milk is added because it becomes quite
liquid by itself).
A hand-held electric mixer works well for this purpose.

This is how Dr.Budwig recommends taking it for her patients:
For breakfast she recommends taking a Muesli consisting of 3 tblsp FO mixed
with 100 gram (6 tblsp)
CC, some milk, honey, 2 tblsp ground flaxseed, fruit, berries and some raw
nuts (no peanuts).

For lunch she recommends:
fo/cc mayonnaise as a salad sauce, and
fo/cc crème with honey, vanilla and fruit for dessert.
These are both more or less standard fo/cc mixes with different ingredients
for flavour variations.
Be creative.
These mixtures at lunch can add up to 3 tblsp of FO to the 3 tblsp already
taken at breakfast.

She also has her patients take 1 tblsp ground flax seeds in a glass of juice
3 times a day.
This is in addition to the 2 tblsp ground flaxseeds taken at breakfast.


Some other considerations:
Enzymes are important.
Dr.Budwig had her patients take papaya juice for enzymes.
(Many people take enzyme supplements).

Avoid hydrogenated fats, animal fats, sugar, processed foods, preservatives
and chemicals.
Eat whole and natural foods - organic where possible.

Prepare foods fresh.
Don't keep foods for the next meal or the next day.

Are we really sure we need to mix to point of no
beads with magnifying glass? You are beating the
hell out of the protein in the dairy product.
It seems odd that discoverer of this method is
German and we need to go get a German product to
reproduce it. I think quark sounds like
something common in Germany and therefore was
used but any dairy product with high sulfur dairy
protein should do. What next we all speak German
while using the protocol?




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Ricotta is only fatty; quark can be ....magerquark (low-fat quark). Ach so, pleaze uze cottich cheese ...einverstanden?
Ciao Ugo

I would suggest get used to smell of it when it
is fresh and when odor changes, go get some
fresh. Why take chances when you are using it as
'medical treatment'?

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