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Hi,

One of my wife's younger brother was married to a lady who died in an auto
accident but who's mother is living and has Multiple Myaloma.

One of our nieces got her on Flaxseed Oil/Cottage Cheese quite a while ago.
I am not exactly sure of the starting date.

Our niece tells me that her grandmother is doing well. I hope to see her
later this summer.

Cliff

Hi,

This is the most recent message from Harold.

have any of you taken the flax oil and cottage cheese while doing the
chemo treatments also?
thanks
Joyce

Hi,

Harold Ray is a Nazarene Missionary who had to leave the field because of
cancer. At the time I knew of him through Charlotte, my sister in law who
had given him a tape. I did not know what kind of cancer he had.

Thanks for forwarding this message to me. I am not aware of your website.
Please share it with me.

More than four years (Oct., 1996) ago I was diagnosed with Multiple Myeloma
and given 2-3 years to live. Charlotte and Dorothy contacted me and
recommended the flax oil. Even though I have come near the danger point of
taking chemo a couple of times, the flax oil has kept my count at a safe
level. When it went up was when I was lax on flax.

Harold Ray
****

This was written to me a number of years ago. He had been involved well
before 1999, when the Flax list was set up.

In a publication a several years later, he sent me another message that the
medical people had decided that he hadn't had multiple myaloma. It was
something else. I forget what he said the reclassification had been.

I strongly suspect that the doctors concluded that since the situation had
changed and he was recovering that it had to be something else.

Cliff

Hi,

The following document is concerning Betsy and experience with Multi
Myaloma.

Both Betsy and the writer are long gone. Both stayed with chemo but Betsy
was the one with Multi Myaloma.

Cliff


Hi,

Both Betsy and the one who wrote me the letter are gone.d

Both stayed on Chemo to the bitter end.

Betsy had a fairly remarkable recovery and was doing great except that she
listened to her doctor and stayed with the chemo. I deleted the doctor's
name.

Chemo will kill if one just stays with it. That is based on observation.

Cliff
**

Hi,

This originally came from a friend of mine.
*

Betsy is a friend of ours, in her 70s I suppose. She has multiple myeloma,
a
very deadly kind of bone cancer, and is being treated by the same
oncologist I go to.

We saw Betsy a couple weeks ago. She's bright eyed and bushy tailed...her
old self. She mentioned that Dr.----- had recently told her she was his
"miracle patient".

This spring I had heard about Betsy's situation. It was greatly different
from what it is today. She was extremely sick and unable to eat. She could
only lie in bed and was just wasting away. Her husband, Don, thought she
was
dying. He may have been right. It had taken a long time for her doctors to
diagnose an obviously deteriorating health condition as multiple myeloma,
so
that it was quite an advanced case before she was referred to Dr.-------,
as I understand it. I believe she had recently been started on chemotherapy
by Dr.-------- a little before I learned what was happening. But no matter
how
good
his treatment might have been, if she couldn't eat she wasn't going to get
better.

I went down to --------- and bought a pint of Barlean's lignan rich
flaxseed
oil, some low-fat cottage cheese, a pineapple and some honey, and took it
over to Don.

Don made Betsy a smoothie, using some of the pineapple to cover the taste
of
the oil. A little later I learned that Betsy had called the smoothie
"delicious food". She could eat it! Later still, I heard that Betsy likes
tuna fish in her flaxseed oil and cottage cheese smoothies, instead of the
pineapple. You can use anything in the smoothies to make them taste good to
you. In the meantime, Don had ordered some of the oil direct from
Barlean's.
If you're a cancer patient it's sold to you at wholesale and costs about
half as much as at-------------or other health food stores, even with the
shipping cost.

It wasn't too much longer before Betsy was able to get up and be in a
wheelchair. Soon she was able to stand and get around a little with a
walker. A month or so ago she went in some cancer event that involved a
3-mile walk. She had intended only to do the first mile but ended up doing
the whole thing! She was back.

Betsy is an avid gardener and has one of the city plots. She had been able
to get the garden planted somehow, with help from Don, and it has been
delivering great quantities of produce all summer. Every now and then Don
brings some by for us. He thinks I saved Betsy's life.

Is Betsy's amazing response to the treatment of this devasting kind of bone
cancer because of the combined benefits of the flaxseed oil and
chemotherapy?

My friend----------

There is controversy here. I see this as an example of the fact that
flaxseed oil will be of real benefit even though chemo is being used. I
personally do not know of many , if any,situations where the continuous use
of chemo has resulted in real recovery.

Chemo does kill cancer cells, maybe 9d5 to 98% of them, but does not kill
all of them. The patient is now in remission but the resistant cells
continue to survive and increase. As the "treatment" is continued, the
cancer cells are not affected, but the good cells of the body and the
immune
system, heart, liver, etc. are contuing to be destroyed.

When the patient is aware that the cancer has "returned" a new chemo must
be
tried because the old one is no longer effective. The cycle is again
followed and the patient is again in "remission". The word "remission" is
used because there is no expectation of a cure.

With each new cycle of chemo the patient is increasingly weaker and less
able to fight the invader and death will occur.

The flaxseed oil, with the Omega 3, may be a major help but cannot do the
whole job against the destruction of the chemo.

I do not know the complete details, but I understand that the chemo was
continued and eventually won and Betsy passed away.

Cliff

TEST

A study on elderly Japanese patients demonstrated that blood levels of the
omega-3 fatty acids EPA and DHA increase after prolonged consumption of ALA
from a plant-based oil. The change is slow and requires about 10 months of
supplementation. However, the result of the study suggests that
supplementation with degree haALA from flax oil may to some ve the same
beneficial role as supplementation with fish oil. This news may be
particularly interesting to people following a vegetarian diet or for those
who do not eat fish products. [Journal of Nutrition Science Viturminol,
December 1999]


Sources with a high EPA/DHA ratio are prepared from fish oils. There is
currently no product available which contains EPA without any DHA.
Supplemental sources with high DHA/EPA ratios are now available that have
been derived from algae. Eggs are now available which contain EPA and DHA
when the chickens have been fed special diets containing these fatty acids
or flax seed. Therapeutic EPA doses are in the range of 500 to 2,500mg per
day, depending on the condition being treated.

From

Cliff,
I would very much like to talk to the people that have been helped with
FO/CC that have Multiple Myeloma. Although it can't help him now (my brother
died of this exceptionally horrible cancer this last December) I want to
help disseminate any helpful protocols through his MM support group.
thanxs,
Harry

Hi Rich,

We have seen flaxseed oil successful with Multiple Myaloma, which is bone
cancer. We have seen it successful with cancer of other types that have
spread to bones.

I have never known of it to be used in the case of a boy this young and my
guess is that he is being loaded up with chemo from which there may be
little chance of escape.

He could not lose to have this added to whatever else he is doing. It is a
food, not a drug, and it will not interfere with anything else.

Cliff

dose any one out there know anything about bone cancer an flax oil /cottage
cheese.a friend of mine has a son that is 10 that has it.has had it from6
years old.now it back again.bad this time.thanks for your help,rich

I know this is off topic.
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Thanks
Ramon

I do not buy books like Dr. Arnots'. Too glossy and shallow for people who dig deep. I will look at it in the Library when I can:

However I just read several critiques of it from a Google search.

From these reviews it is plain the Dr. Arnot has stepped on some very important toes. As the big guys are coming down hard on him with their half truths. This means He is on to something that will hurt the sales of designer Drugs.

He recommends flaxseed! And fish oil. He puts down Omega 6. I agree completely.

He recommends Soy. I disagree.

It appears to me that he is on the right track.

Peters remark that Dr. Arnot says flax oil is cancerous needs more explanation. Note Dr. Budwig, if I recall correctly, stated that flaxseed oil without quarq was not recommended. Then Dr. Mercola stated that He quit recommending flaxseed oil --note He did not know about the quarq.

Please see for a thorough understanding of why We need to eat fish or at least fish oil. Unless you believe the Earth was invented less than 5,000 years ago- in which case don't bother to ever pay any attention to what I write.

Lorenzo

Maureen -

I should have written that I cited from a German (translated)
copy.
So, let's wait for his reply.
There is even another problem. My email to
bob.arnot@...
was bounced. I asked the nbc postmaster to redirect it to Arnot.
Perhaps one on this list could find a working address?

Regards

Peter

PS: Don't apologize for asking - that's the purpose of this list,-)

Finally I got the reference from Dr Budwig about the effect
of single alpha linoleic acid (ALA) on malign cells.
It was written in her book "Tod des Tumors" (Death of Tumor),
p 133.

Yes, ALA pushes cell growth. Budwig concludes that cancer
tissue is defined by growth disturbance. This opinion is
supported by the histological manifestation of a cancer cell
- 2 kernels in 1 cell. The cell diversification starts with
building 2 kernels and stops then. The weakness of this
cell, hence its inability to build 2 new cells is the cause
of malignity.

This growth disturbance can be repaired in vitro with flax
oil. The cells divide again, but they are not malign
anymore.

Hence the observation that cancer tissue grows 250% with
ALA. The researchers only forgot to test the grown tissue
for malignity. Some researchers. Outer tissue like mucous
membrane is disposed, inner tissue is reduced by apoptosis.

So ALA does cure cancer by completing the growth process of
cancer cells.


Regards

Peter

Peter,
I'm sorry, but I must have missed something as you are writing about Dr. Arnot saying flax seed oil causes cancer. Was he on TV discussing this? I have one of his books dated 1998, The Breast Cancer Prevention Diet in which he states on page 7:"Flaxseed has two critical parts, flax oil, ONE OF THE HEALTHIEST FATS YOU CAN EAT, and a special fiber that protects against breast cancer and heart disease." Has he now changed his mind in another book? Again, I apologize if this has already been discussed. I have been having computer problems and I wasn't receiving messages for a few days. I know a lot of these authors claim flaxseed oil will cause cancer if it isn't refrigerated. Could this be what he is saying?
Thanks for your time.
Mary

From: Peter Fackelmann <pfackelmann@...>
Reply-To: FlaxSeedOil2@...
To: bob.arnot@...
Subject: [FlaxSeedOil2] Flax oil
Date: Fri, 14 Mar 2003 01:16:33 +0100

Dear Dr Arnot -

you wrote a book about cancer prevention diet stipulating that
flax oil is cancerous.

Didn't you read Dr Budwig's books about her flax oil diet based
on her studies about fatty acids?

Her recipe says: flax oil with sulphur bearing proteins like quark.

Testing one composite of a recipe is either silly or it is done on
purpose.

I can send you my own data and a list of references/sources.

I understand you are on a natural approach.
With those statements you discredit yourself. The allopathic
community will be happy though.

I would appreciate your comments.

Sincerely

Peter Fackelmann

PS:
You advocate sweet potatoes. Don't you care about the high glycemic
index?

Peter Fackelmann
Im Raidental 43
D-72458 Albstadt-Ebingen

Tel +49 (0) 07431 500 581
+49 (0) 162 907 5146
Email: pfackelmann@...

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what is the purpose of blending the flax oil and cottage cheese so long
and working the oil into the CC until you can no longer see free
standing oil?
Joyce

In a message dated 03/14/2003 5:57:04 AM Central Standard Time,
snaffles@... writes:

what is the purpose of blending the flax oil and cottage cheese so long
and working the oil into the CC until you can no longer see free
standing oil?
Joyce

Science has proven that fats play an important role in the functioning of the
entire body. Fats (lipids) are vital for all growth processing, renewal of
cells, brain and nerve functions, even for the sensory organs (eyes and
ears), and for the body's adjustment to heat, cold and quick temperature
changes. Our energy resources are based on lipid metabolism. To function
efficiently, cells require true polyunsaturated, live electron-rich lipids,
present in abundance in raw flaxseed oil. True polyunsaturated fats greedily
absorb proteins and oxygen and pump them through the system.



Lipids are only water-soluble and free-flowing when bound to protein; thus
the importance of protein-rich cottage cheese. When high quality,
electron-rich fats are combined with proteins, the electrons are protected
until the body requires energy. This energy source is then fully and
immediately available to the body on demand, as nature intended.


(from curezone)

Dear Dr Arnot -

you wrote a book about cancer prevention diet stipulating that
flax oil is cancerous.

Didn't you read Dr Budwig's books about her flax oil diet based
on her studies about fatty acids?

Her recipe says: flax oil with sulphur bearing proteins like quark.

Testing one composite of a recipe is either silly or it is done on
purpose.

I can send you my own data and a list of references/sources.

I understand you are on a natural approach.
With those statements you discredit yourself. The allopathic
community will be happy though.

I would appreciate your comments.

Sincerely

Peter Fackelmann

PS:
You advocate sweet potatoes. Don't you care about the high glycemic
index?

Peter Fackelmann
Im Raidental 43
D-72458 Albstadt-Ebingen

Tel +49 (0) 07431 500 581
+49 (0) 162 907 5146
Email: pfackelmann@...