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Re: Blocking Email
Free Minded
Tracy,
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To stop receiving it, you have to block the address. This is what I have done and it is working. Each time, I tried to stop it by my firewall or antivirus, it did not work as it is a email, not a virus. Sorry for wrong title. Diane ----Original Message Follows---- From: "Nelson Doucet" <ndoucet@...> Reply-To: FlaxSeedOil2@... To: <FlaxSeedOil2@...> Subject: [FlaxSeedOil2] Soap to use Date: Wed, 4 May 2005 09:17:38 -0500 Vanessa, We use castile soap for bathing etc. Do you use the same for dish and clothes. I will look up Dr. Bonner's and this may have the answer. Nelson ----- Original Message -----
From: <BocaTrader@...> To: <FlaxSeedOil2@...> Sent: Wednesday, May 04, 2005 8:37 AM Subject: Re: [FlaxSeedOil2] Re: I'm a newcomer...breast cancer I use a plain Castille soap, FWIW, and I never see anythign against it. Iuse Dr. Bronner's with hemp. organic.dish lookwashing and clothes? The Gerson and Budwig approach are a good match. aboutahead. You will get better and on that journey will learn so much simplywhat your body needs for good health. The less you are able to avoid not intended to diagnose or treat any illness. Always consult your doctorhave no clue. about the diagnosis and treatment of health problems. Yahoo! Groups Links -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.308 / Virus Database: 266.11.3 - Release Date: 5/3/2005 |
Re: Soap to use
Free Minded
Tracy,
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To stop receiving it, you have to block the address. With an hotmail account, you go to Junk Mail and then to Block Address list. If you have Outlook, you go to action and then say to put to block this address permanently. This is what I have done and it is working. Each time, I tried to stop it by my firewall or antivirus, it did not work as it is a email, not a virus. Diane ----Original Message Follows---- From: "Nelson Doucet" <ndoucet@...> Reply-To: FlaxSeedOil2@... To: <FlaxSeedOil2@...> Subject: [FlaxSeedOil2] Soap to use Date: Wed, 4 May 2005 09:17:38 -0500 Vanessa, We use castile soap for bathing etc. Do you use the same for dish and clothes. I will look up Dr. Bonner's and this may have the answer. Nelson ----- Original Message -----
From: <BocaTrader@...> To: <FlaxSeedOil2@...> Sent: Wednesday, May 04, 2005 8:37 AM Subject: Re: [FlaxSeedOil2] Re: I'm a newcomer...breast cancer I use a plain Castille soap, FWIW, and I never see anythign against it. Iuse Dr. Bronner's with hemp. organic.dish lookwashing and clothes? The Gerson and Budwig approach are a good match. simplyahead. You will get better and on that journey will learn so much about not intended to diagnose or treat any illness. Always consult your doctorhave no clue. about the diagnosis and treatment of health problems. Yahoo! Groups Links -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.308 / Virus Database: 266.11.3 - Release Date: 5/3/2005 |
Chemo and JB
MARILYN SIMPSON
Syd and Esther.... I'm cheering you both on, along with many others here.
Esther, you're so right. We have to do what we feel is right for us. I was diagnosed with Stage 111 Ovarian Cancer 5 1/2 years ago. I underwent 2 surgeries and 3 years of Chemo only to have it metastasize to my neck lymph in July 2003. I wasn't prepared to spend more years undergoing the punishment of more treatments and opted to seek out quality in what life I had left. Treatments stopped making sense. They made life miserable and left me with more cancer and a compromised immune system and worn out body to fight it with. It just didn't figure any more. I explored different alternative approaches....spent a bundle on supplements in the process, then discovered the Budwig Protocol several months ago. I'm still fine tuning it but I AM a believer. I think that's part of the program. It takes commitment. I haven't had a treatment for over 2 years. I saw my Oncologist Wednesday and had the usual blood work done. The test for Ovarian Cancer is called the CA-125 and measures a protein that is elevated in the blood with OvCa. It's not accurate with everyone but seems to be a good indicator for me. To give you an idea of why I feel so great about the numbers from Wednesdays test........below 30 is considered normal. I was 1400 before the first surgery. First round of Chemo dropped me below 10 and then it steadily rose. More surgery 22 months later and more Chemo. I've never been below 40 since. Dec 04 it was 76. Feb - 56; Wednesday it was 54! It's going down!! The largest lump in my neck is smaller. I feel great and my Oncologist sent me home and told me to come back in 3 months. The diet is not an easy transition. I miss some of my old carcinogens (I stole that line but it's a great one) but the longer I'm on it the more I look at what once looked tempting and see poison. My imagery...my immune system grows a little more muscle with every bite. I'm a very happy camper as I believe I made the right choice for me. But that's me....and that's why I'm here. Marilyn S. |
Re: chemo and JB
In a message dated 5/7/05 1:26:08 AM Eastern Daylight Time,
mdevour@... writes: am not so convinced that letting them cut on anything is wise.I would agree that cutting is often undertaken rashly. I am quite sure that the biopsy I had spread the cancer, leaving me in a position far worse than the one I was in pre-biopsy. Of course this is very personal and concerns spreading breast cancer, not colon cancer. THere was no need to biopsy me, the pictures were very clear. But it is very difficult to challenge the standard of care. . . Oh, how I tried. . . |
Re: update after onc visit
breathedeepnow
"I DO NOT want to go back on
chemotherapy, and desperately want to be able to treat myself with more natural alternative methods." I do not see any reason why you should go back on chemotherapy. If the cancer were to begin growing again, I do not think chemotherapy would be effective against it. I think all it would do at that point would be to injure your immune system. It seems to me there are a whole lot of people who are on chemotherapy that is completely ineffective against the cancer and that is hurting and suppressing their immune systems. If chemotherapy is going to have any effect on cancer at all, it is going to be the first time it is used---the first cycle. After that, if the cancer comes back, chemotherapy is worse---much worse---than useless. |
Re: Grandmother has small cell lung cancer/ways to eat flax & cottage cheese
-The web page www.newswithviews.com/Howenstine/james2.htm has info
about small cell lung cancer. -- In FlaxSeedOil2@..., "biztekmom" <zena@i...> wrote: Someone on another group suggested cinnamin...of it in here? or know anyone? She is eating cottage cheese and flax |
Re: chemo and JB
M. G. Devour
Syd writes:
Your friend should get sigmoidoscopy where they put a scope up you andI only say this because I lost a good friend to colon/liver cancer a couple of months back... When they went in to do the colonoscopy, they took biopsy samples of the suspected tumors as well as took out some polyps... I do not know whether they told him they were going to do that or not, but make sure your friend knows their intentions before allowing any such procedure. I am not so convinced that letting them cut on anything is wise. Just as they did multiple needle biopsies on his liver, and I can't imagine that being a safe thing to do... at least not if you're already fully prepared to launch an alternative therapy against the cancer and all you want them to do is tell you what's where and how big... I wish you well, Mike D. [Mike Devour, Citizen, Patriot, Libertarian] [mdevour@... ] [Speaking only for myself... ] |
Re: Grandmother has small cell lung cancer/ways to eat flax & cottage cheese
biztekmom
Someone on another group suggested cinnamin...
Also, since I like spicy things I sprinkle cayenne on mine sometimes. Sometimes I put it in a blender, drink it down and follow it with a dill pickle. --- In FlaxSeedOil2@..., "Sarah" <musicgirl1993@a...> wrote: My Grandmother has small cell lung cancer. Has anyone been cured of |
Re: Discover(R) Card Messages
W. Hansen
Hi,
everyone in this group gets these annoying Discover(R) Card messages in response to each message posted to the group. It appears to be generated by an auto-reply on the account of one of our members. We have not been able to track it down, although we were promised help from Yahoo. It has been going on for a long time. These messages seem to be harmless. My virus checker has never objected to them. Neither have I heard from anyone else in this group that their virus checker has detected a problem with them. Just delete them as they show up. Wilhelm |
Re: Your Recent E-mail Message to Discover(R) Card
tempo33x
If you want to get rid of emails from the group, go to the homepage:
Look above the dark banner with the name of the group. In small letters you will see 'Edit Membership,' click on that, on the next page scroll down and click on 'No emails.' Then, instead of emails you can come to the group homepage and read the messages. -- In FlaxSeedOil2@..., BocaTrader@a... wrote: Why do I keep getting these emails after I post something to thisgroup? It even contains my post to this group in the email to me, which isostensibly from the Discover Card Company. |
Re: Your Recent E-mail Message to Discover(R) Card
Tracy
I get those all the time too!! I hadn't realized that it had anything to do with my messages to the group but it probably does. Weird!
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From: BocaTrader@... Why do I keep getting these emails after I post something to this group? It even contains my post to this group in the email to me, which is ostensibly from the Discover Card Company. thanks, vanessa |
Re: chemo and JB
Syd Monk
Cheryl,
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The first symptom that really grabbed me was a bad pain in my colon/ lower right abdomen. This turned out to be the primary tumour. The pain became steadily worse until I went to the doctor and was diagnosed. Other symptoms were rectal bleeding, fatigue to the point where it was hard to stand up, breathlessness and a few other symptoms. These other symptoms were more associated with the spread to the lymph nodes and it would be quite a coincidence if these symptoms were the same as another colon cancer survivor as the cancer can spread anywhere and thus there would be different symptoms. But just to be thorough, I did have nodes in my groin area affected and before I started chemo I felt a lot of pain in my groin area, a little like getting kicked you know where, actually, it was exactly like getting a kick in the groin but the pain lasted pretty much indefinately. I was rolling around doubled over before I finally got some percosets. When I started chemo all the pain stopped as I responded almost right away. Interestingly enough, there was no pain at all in my liver, yet there were multiple tumours in there growing like weeds, and fast too, judging by my catscans. This also was reversed by chemo. Your friend should get sigmoidoscopy where they put a scope up you and look at the colon, also known as a colonoscopy. To not do so would be very foolish. It could save his life if he does have cancer and they catch it soon enough. Syd From: "Cheryl du Toit" <cherdtoit@...> |
Very Important Read
Rick
Hi All
This is an very important read and matches Budwig's perspective. One minor difference - We are a DO IT YOURSELF group - No Doctor can heal you - Only you can heal yourself! Also if you fully understand the Last Section - You will Know Far More than the average Doctor that practices in 'this dark age' of medicine = Slash, Burn, Freeze, Radiate & Poison Cures/Heals Nothing. They only deal with symptoms - The Budwig protocol deals with causes! It is GREAT to see people wising up! Thursday, May 05, 2005 Commentary Cures for cancer already exist, but not in the realm of chemical-based medicine, says holistic nutritionist A lot of people ask me, "Mike, how can you say that chronic disease is reversible? The American Medical Association doesn't say it's reversible. The American Cancer Society says there's no cure for cancer. How can you say that these diseases are reversible?" The answer requires an understanding of a much more advanced framework for health and the underlying causes of disease. Fundamentally, these diseases are fictitious in the sense that they are not caused by invading microbes -- thus, they are not diseases in the way we typically think of infectious disease like smallpox, malaria or influenza. Rather than being such types of diseases, our most common so-called 'diseases' like cancer, diabetes and heart disease are actually metabolic disorders. They are the end result of specific causes, and when those causes are allowed to work their destruction over a long period of time, they create a series of effects. Those effects are diagnosed by doctors and given a name. And the name is something like 'cancer' or 'heart disease' or 'diabetes'. If you'd like to verify this yourself, just ask any doctor for the name of the virus that causes osteoporosis. Or ask them: "What's the name of the bacteria that causes heart disease? What's the infectious agent for cancer?" And in all three cases, the answer will be "Well, there are none - these diseases aren't caused by infectious agents." So what are they caused by? Frankly, conventional medicine can't really give you a satisfying answer on those questions. They don't know the causes. Sure, they can tell you what they think are causes, such as saying that diabetes is caused by insulin resistance. But all they're actually doing is describing another symptom. The cause of diabetes is not insulin resistance, that's just one of the cascading symptoms that leads to the ultimate diagnosis of the disease. The real question is: "What causes insulin resistance?" So you see, if you backtrack from conventional medicine's explanations about the causes of disease, and you keep seeking deeper and deeper causes for the symptoms, then you fairly quickly get to a point where conventional medicine has no clue, because they can't tell you what causes insulin resistance. Yes, they can describe the biochemical mechanisms, but they can't tell you what causes that biochemistry to take place. The bottom line is that the leading thinkers in conventional medicine don't understand the causes of these diseases at all. They keep looking for the biochemical interactions, and by doing so they're lost in the forest. They're looking at a microscopic level and losing sight of the big picture. It's classic myopia, and they reinforce that tunnel vision by automatically discrediting anything that might offer an alternative perspective. What they really need to do is to zoom out and look at the holistic picture. Welcome to the big picture of health and healing They need to look at the whole action of the human body and everything that impacts it, including environment, mind-body interactions, nutrition, chronic stress and things like natural sunlight. When you look at the impact of all of these factors on human health, you begin to get a much clearer picture of the true cause of chronic disease. And once you do that, you understand that these diseases are simply a cascading domino effect. They are a result of nutritional deficiencies, chronic stress, environmental toxins found in the air, the water and even personal care products like shampoo, deodorants and anti-static dryer sheets. You see, when a person has a cancer tumor, it's something that the body actually built. Conventional medicine tends to think of a tumor as some sort of alien invader, as if it swooped down from the sky and latched on to your body. But in fact, your body built the tumor. Cancer comes from within the body. There's no microbial invader responsible. Cancer is fundamentally a failure of the body to regulate its own metabolism and clean up unhealthy, mutated cells. In fact, the very process of cancer -- the seemingly uncontrolled duplication of cells -- is quite natural. It is much the same process that a fetus undergoes when it is forming in the womb. Similarly, whenever you injure yourself, and your body has to heal that injury by rebuilding skin cells or other tissues, it is involved in a cancer-like action. In fact, cancer is just a name given to a normal metabolic function that has become abnormal in the fact that it is no longer restrained. Cancer, then, is really a normal biological process taking place in the wrong context. When cells are duplicating like crazy in a fetus, it's called a miracle of life. When cells are duplicating like crazy in the pancreas of a senior citizen, it's called a disease. Same process, different context. As you can see, cancer is not caused by some outside invader. It is a normal human physiological function that's simply out of control and unable to be regulated by the body. Well, if the body has regulated and managed this process in the past (you're still alive, aren't you?), it only makes sense that the body is capable of figuring out how to regulate it again. And hence the claim that there are cures for cancer. You can cure cancer in your sleep In fact, such a claim is not at all outrageous. It's not even extraordinary. I have cured cancer thousands of times in my own lifetime, and so have you, if you're still alive. Every living human being cures themselves of cancer over and over again as their immune system locates and deals with cancerous cells in the body. Your immune system already knows how to cure cancer, and it has done so for decades The U.S. medical establishment claims there's no such thing as a "cure" for cancer, and yet every person alive today is a walking cancer curing machine. I suppose next, the FDA will arrest people for exercising healthy immune system function because, to them, curing cancer is considered some sort of crime. (Read "When Healing Becomes A Crime" by Kenny Ausubel to learn more about the FDA's longstanding crusade to oppress and outlaw legitimate cancer treatments.) The only time cancer gets diagnosed in your body is when your immune system is unable to do the job it already knows how to do. And the way your immune system fails is if you don't give it the tools it needs: if you're suffering from nutritional deficiencies or chronic dehydration, for example. It could also mean that you are poisoning your body with cancer-causing substances such as sodium nitrite (see related ebook on sodium nitrite) or chemical sweeteners, artificial colors, refined carbohydrates and environmental toxins such as the toxic chemicals found around your home. Common antibacterial soaps, for example, contain a chemical ingredient known as triclosan that, when combined with chlorine in tap water, generates highly carcinogenic fumes. Merely eating processed meats, recent studies show, boosts your risk of pancreatic cancer by 7600%! Conventional medicine remains clueless on cancer So to say that there is a cure for cancer isn't even a stretch. In fact, the bewildering belief is the one held by conventional medicine, which insists that there is no cure for cancer. That is absolutely stunning in its ignorance, because every person alive has already cured cancer. And the body is preprogrammed with the ability to cure cancer on its own. (Drug companies, of course, don't want you to realize this. If people figure out they can already cure cancer, then anti-cancer drug sales might plummet!) It is astonishing that conventional medicine fails to recognize the true nature of cancer. To say that there's no cure for cancer is to deny the healing potential of the human body. It is, in a sense, to deny one's very own human nature. It's not surprising to hear this, though, since conventional medicine is often about separation from nature, or even separation from self. If you think about the way conventional medicine looks at the body, it's all about separation and isolation. We see doctors dealing with body parts: we have foot doctors and eye doctors and ear doctors, but we have very few holistic doctors who look at the whole person -- the body, the mind and the spirit -- and then prescribe a healing strategy that takes into account that holistic existence. At one level, though, I agree with the defenders of conventional medicine, because when they say that there is no cure for cancer, what they mean is that there is no "cure" if you continue to look at human beings as an accumulation of isolated parts. You can't cure cancer if you keep peering through your microscopes trying to understand the subtle biochemistry of angiogenesis and tumorigenesis. That's why the whole "cure for cancer" fundraising system in this country is a sham. What they're seeking is more research dollars to become even better-funded technicians who attempt to tear apart the secrets of biochemistry... but yet who have no knack for seeing the big picture. The scope of so-called "cancer research" as practiced today is far too narrow to have the necessary understanding to even believe in a cure for cancer. Thus, from their point of view, they are indeed correct: there is no cure for cancer if you view the body as a collection of parts. Similarly, some doctors think human behavior is fully accounted for by nothing more than varying levels of neurotransmitters. And get this -- some artificial intelligence geeks think human beings are nothing more than complex computers (Turing machines). In contrast to all this, if you believe that the universe is holistic in nature; if you believe that a human being is more than the sum of body parts -- that we're more than Frankenstein monsters who happen to stumble into doctors' offices with various complaints, then it is not difficult at all to understand that the cure for cancer is within each and every one of us. And in fact, it's built right into our DNA. The very blueprint of life on which our biological systems are based is, in fact, imprinted with the cure for cancer. In a very real way, we are preprogrammed to be cancer-free. Beyond the biochemistry We are healing machines. The human body is a miracle of nanotechnology that far exceeds the advances of modern science. And even if you were to understand all the physical structures and chemical interactions of the immune system, I still don't think you would grasp its complexities, because there are many interactions in the immune system that are energetic in nature. That's why cancer researchers can run lab tests for a hundred years and burn through a billion dollars in funding and still not uncover the mythical "cure for cancer." Trying to find a chemical cure for cancer is sort of like asking some poor sop to find the pot of gold at the end of a rainbow. If he thinks the rainbow is physical (and not made of light energy), then he's going to chase that rainbow endlessly. Sure, the rainbow looks real, but it's actually a projection of vibrational energy. A holistic view of health is much like recognizing the true nature of a rainbow -- the interaction between sunlight and small particles of water, and the varying angles of refraction that split full-spectrum light into strands of visible colors. But organized medicine (pharmaceutical companies, medical doctors, the FDA, and other similar players) still think there's a pot of gold at the end of that research rainbow. They think they can understand the rainbow by building bigger and better tools of observation to measure rainbow properties at a microscopic level. And in time, they will create all sorts of new technical terms to describe all the rainbow observations they have made, and they will justify huge budgets to continue the rainbow research, and yet all along, they'll still miss the fact that the entire rainbow isn't physical at all. Human beings are living, breathing vibrational energy In humans, the big picture is that we, too, are vibrating energy. In fact, you could argue that every chemical interaction is energetic at the molecular level. From a physics point of view, there are no atoms, there are no electrons, we are all just vibrating energy and no physicist worth his salt would deny that. It is in fact this subtle energy that I believe will be the primary focus of the future of medicine. It's called vibrational medicine, and it encompasses not just the energetic nature of matter itself, but also homeopathy and the energies exhibited by water as well as acupuncture, sound therapy, phototherapy, non-local healing and many other energy-based therapeutic modalities with proven healing benefits. In the holistic medicine world, curing cancer is an everyday event. Not because we're better technicians than those in organized medicine (we aren't), but because we operate at a deeper level of understanding about the nature of disease, the nature of human beings, and the "big picture" of healing. If you have cancer and you want a highly technical explanation of the biochemistry of your disease, visit an M.D. or an oncologist. If you want to actually be healed, on the other hand, visit a naturopath. Don't let organized medicine send you on a fool's errand chasing rainbows. Cancer is not a pharmacological problem. It cannot be solved by applying more synthetic chemistry (prescription drugs) to the body. And it most certainly cannot be solved by poisoning the body (chemotherapy). |
Re: chemo and JB
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I was just looking up Gilda's Club to see if there is one in your area. I am not familiar with Florida but there is one in Ft Lauderdale. It might be a good place to see what they might suggest. I checked their website and under Resource Directory found a lot of sources. Perhaps one of these agencies can come to your rescue!_ () Perhaps you need to start at the beginning. The main link is: _ () Blessings, Maria From: BocaTrader@...I wish there were people to come to my house and help with the baby and help me get all the pieces in place. It just seems so expensive and difficult. |
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