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What is Linomel, where can I buy it?
Bori

Wilhelm Hansen <wilhelmh@...> wrote:
Hi Anna

Have you read our files, specifically the first file under "Budwig Diet" called "Flax oil - cottage cheese mixture"? You will find that general quantities are given there as per Dr.Budwig's suggestions. So far as I know, Dr.Budwig did not say exactly how much FO to take in a day and I think that we should not suggest it to anyone either. Requirements vary from person to person for many reasons. This is food, not a prescription drug where precise amounts are required. General quantities should suffice and some variation from day to day would be quite normal IMO. When I asked one of Dr.Budwig's patients how much FO he was taking a day, he could not answer the question without first mentally adding up the FO component in the various foods of the day and then giving me an approximate figure.

From one of your earlier posts I see that you are taking 6 tblsp ground flaxseed (flaxmeal) and 3 to 4 tblsp FO. That sounds about right to me except that you need to mix the FO with low fat CC as Dr.Budwig said, not with beet juice. Now you say you are taking 3 tblsp ground flaxseeds and that it is not a problem for you. Dr.Budwig had her patients take 5 tbslp Linomel a day as you can see in the file referred to above.

The information that you need 450 g fo/cc does not add up. I don't know how you figured it all in terms of weight. We usually use quantity measurements. Let's convert what you are taking to weight in approximate terms:

4 tblsp FO = 37 g
8 tblsp CC = 133 g
3 tblsp milk = 45 g (for thinning)
Total fo/cc = 215 g (not counting any fruit, nuts or other ingredients that you may be adding)

That comes to 215 g for 4 tblsp FO - not 450 g as you mentioned. Furthermore, you would likely split 4 tblsp FO into two meals like 3+1 or 2+2. The Muesli breakfast according to Dr.Budwig contains 3 tblsp FO and 2 tblsp Linomel. Any more FO and ground flaxseed would be consumed later.

You mention flaxseed meal. That has the ring of a commercial pre-ground product. Be careful with that. Dr.Budwig recommends only Linomel or freshly ground flaxeeds.

Wilhelm



Hi everyone,I have asked for some help in how much I
need to eat of the fo/cc, but I have had no response.
I hope you are getting the message. My ISP has not
indicated a problem in delivering the mail. I am of a
small stature (46kg) and from the information I have I
need to eat 450gr. of fo/cc plus the flaxmeal 3tbsp.
of a day. The flaxmeal is not a problem, but I find
the 450gr. of fo/cc a bit much. Can this be adjusted
according to the persons body weight or is this diet
for active cancer the formula for everyone? Hope to
hear from you soon.Anna





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Wondering about those who have had sucess with FO/CC, Can you share your experiences?

Bori




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--- In FlaxSeedOil2@..., "P. Thomas" <pt50@c...> wrote:

This just came to me today and I wanted to share it here for some
insight on this.

Pat

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Flax Seed Oil Actually Increases Prostate Cancer While Fish Oil
Decreases It

A recent study of about 47,000 men has found the ALA omega-3 fatty
acids stimulate the growth of prostate tumors in men. Of the men
monitored over 14 years, some 3,000 struggled with prostate cancer
and about one in seven were suffering from the advanced stages of the
disease.

This is from Dr. Mercola's newsletter. As far as I am aware, he has
not addressed the efficacy of FO/CC in his writings.

Terry

Your files are attached and ready to send with this message.

From: "Wilhelm Hansen" <wilhelmh@...>
<<We should not recommend to go on or off chemo....Cliff's question,
he said: "If there is anyone on the list who has been cured of cancer
with chemo they should answer and give details. Please note the word
"cured" in there, I believe that word did not slip in there by
accident. Cynthia did not say that she was cured. She said she was in
remission. Remission is what is expected with chemo>>
In the vast majority of cases, even remission is not expected from
chemo, not even "partial remission". And even tumor shrinkage/"partial
remission" does NOT necessarily mean increased life expectancy (Moss,
_Questioning Chemotherapy_).

<<but what then? It does not address the underlying problem and it
leaves the body in worse shape than it was before, less capable of
fending off diseases. More and more knowledgeable medical people are
saying this. Dr.Budwig....chemo interferes with her method.>>
I agree completely.

Although I largely don't share your views, Cynthia, I believe that you
intentions are entirely good, and I believe you have every right to
state your opinions.

Leonard

I am not able to see this page


are you sure it is the correct address.

Bori

Kathryn Gold <dgo1denone@...> wrote:
Hello,
For those considering chemo I repost the following:




K. Gold
www.goldenglow.wholefoodfarmacy.com
An easy, painless way to transition to raw foods.






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Honesty is not the point here. I was not questioning that. Please
see my previous post on this subject.

Wilhelm


--- In FlaxSeedOil2@..., "igetwhipsawd" <bggoodwin@a...>
wrote:

Why would you be perplexed? I think the person gave an honest
answer to someone seeking information.

This is my second try as my first message did not (yet?) make the
board. It could end up in a double posting.

Pat,

It was not Cynthia's experience that surprised me. I have read much
of her story before. It was her recommendation to stay on chemo. We
should not recommend to go on or off chemo. These are important
personal decisions. We do not practice medicine. We give/share
information and experiences. This is from our Group
Description: "Members give personal experiences, opinions and
information for educational purposes."

Regarding Cliff's question, he said: "If there is anyone on the list
who has been cured of cancer with chemo they should answer and give
details. Please note the word "cured" in there, I believe that word
did not slip in there by accident. Cynthia did not say that she was
cured. She said she was in remission. Remission is what is expected
with chemo, but what then? It does not address the underlying
problem and it leaves the body in worse shape than it was before,
less capable of fending off diseases. More and more knowledgeable
medical people are saying this. Dr.Budwig was probably the first
one. She was totally opposed to chemo. She says that it is the wrong
approach because it is a growth inhibiting method and that too much
growth is not the problem. What is required is a method that
promotes healthy growth, which is what her method does. Therefore
chemo interferes with her method.

Wilhelm


--- In FlaxSeedOil2@..., "P. Thomas" <pt50@c...> wrote:

Wilhelm,
Cynthia was responding by request of Cliff's post on those treated
with chemo as she has and is sharing her experience with this

poster.

No one here has forgotten what this site represents.

Pat

Pat,

It was not Cynthia's experience that surprised me. I have read much of her story before. It was her recommendation to stay on chemo. We should not recommend to go on or off chemo. These are important personal decisions. We do not practice medicine. We give/share information and experiences. This is from our Group Description: "Members give personal experiences, opinions and information for educational purposes."

Regarding Cliff's question, he said: "If there is anyone on the list who has been cured of cancer with chemo they should answer and give details. Please note the word "cured" in there, I believe that word did not slip in there by accident. Cynthia did not say that she was cured. She said she was in remission. Remission is what is expected with chemo, but what then? It does not address the underlying problem and it leaves the body in worse shape than it was before, less capable of fending off diseases. More and more knowledgeable medical people are saying this. Dr.Budwig was probably the first one. She was totally opposed to chemo. She says that it is the wrong approach because it is a growth inhibiting method and that too much growth is not the problem. What is required is a method that promotes healthy growth, which is what her method does. Therefore chemo interferes with her method.

Wilhelm

Wilhelm,
Cynthia was responding by request of Cliff's post on those treated
with chemo as she has and is sharing her experience with this poster.
No one here has forgotten what this site represents.

Pat

From: "Kathryn Gold" <dgo1denone@...>

Hello,
For those considering chemo I repost the following:

Thanks, Kathryn. And I repost the following:

The "malignancies...highly responsive to chemotherapy" are
essentially...choriocarcinoma, acute lymphocytic leukemia
(ALL)...lymphosarcoma, [Hodgkin's, Burkitt's, & some other lymphomas],
embryonal testicular cancer, Wilms' tumor, Ewing's sarcoma,
rhabdomyosarcoma, retinoblastoma, a few rare cancers of childhood
(Moss, 2000, p. 81), acute nonlymphocytic leukemia [20% long-term
remission], ovarian [10-20% long-term remission] and SCLC lung cancer
[10% long-term remission].
www.caringmedical.com/cyberclinic/condition_detail.asp?condition_id=10
46
"Chemotherapy is curative in very few cancers - testicular, Hodgkin's,
choriocarcinoma, childhood leukemia. In most common solid tumors -
lung, colon, breast, etc. - chemotherapy is NOT curative." Dr. Jrgen
Buche, Preventorium Inst.
www.groups.yahoo.com/group/Alternative_Breast_Cancer
"Most cancer patients in this country die of chemotherapy.
Chemotherapy does not eliminate breast, colon, or lung cancers. This
fact has been documented for over a decade" Allen Levin, MD UCSF The
Healing of Cancer
www.domaincountry.com/articles/health/treatments.shtml
"Ulrich Abel, Ph.D., of the Heidelberg Tumor Center in Germany,
conducted a comprehensive review of the world literature on survival
among cancer patients receiving chemotherapy. He found that
chemotherapy can help only about 3% of the patients with epithelial
cancers (breast, lung, prostate, and colon) [Abel [1990], Cytostatic
Therapy of Advanced Epithelial Tumors: A Critique. Stuggart, Germany:
Hippocrates Verlag]....Statistics show that chemotherapy is useless in
treating about 80% of malignant tumors, in particular...cancers of the
lungs, breast, colon, pancreas, and bladder [D. Schmahl, (1989)
"Experimental Development of Anticancer Drugs." Current Cancer
Research (pp. 157-243). New York: Springer. Chemotherapy's 7% "cure"
rate is all the more pathetic when you consider that it typically
refers to survival for only five years and thus overlooks the risk of
"secondary cancers" (Diamond et al., 2000, p. 191).
"Chemotherapy and radiation can increase the risk of developing a
second cancer by up to 100 times, according to Dr. Samuel S. Epstein."
Congressional Record, Sept. 9, 1987
"...as a chemist trained to interpret data, it is incomprehensible to
me that physicians can ignore the clear evidence that chemotherapy
does much, much more harm than good." Alan C. Nixon, PhD, former
president of American Chemical Society
"Whether any of the common cancers can be cured by chemotherapy has
yet to be established" (John Cairns, Scientific American, 60, Nov.
1985).
"study of oncologists to determine how they would respond to a
diagnosis of cancer...58 out of 64 doctors said that all chemotherapy
programs were unacceptable to them and their family members. The
overriding reason for this decision was that the drugs are ineffective
and have an unacceptable degree of toxicity....radiologist who told me
this: `If I get cancer, I'm going to Mexico.'" Daily Dose, August 30,
2002
from the newsletter of William Campbell Douglass II, M.D.
reprinted at the following websites:
www.dreamline.freeyellow.com/#scandal;
www.getandstaywell.com/archive10.shtml
www.networkingtheinternet.com/dxm66.htm
www.aspartame.ca/page_c4.htm
www.fugitt.com/article/chemo1.htm
For a critical analysis of the benefits, indications, and
contraindications for chemotherapy, see
Ralph Moss's book Questioning Chemotherapy and
www.whale.to/cancer/chemo.html (includes quotes from Moss's book)
www.whale.to/cancer/quotes1.html
www.shirleys-wellness-cafe.com/cancer.htm
www.ralphmoss.com/dgo2000.html
www.apricotsfromgod.org/ralphmoss.htm
www.whatareweswallowing.freeserve.co.uk/deathbydoctoring4.htm (quotes
from doctors)
www.healingcancernaturally.com/why_alternatives.html
www.healingcancernaturally.com/why_alternatives2.html
www.kroisscancercenter.com (click on methods)
www.kanker-actueel.nl/ca_hi_e.html
www.geocities.com/freee80/surgery2.html
www.brwwellness.com/ten.htm
www.bcaction.org/Pages/SearchablePages/2003Newsletters/Newsletter077A.
html
www.mercola.com/2003/aug/13/cancer_drugs.htm (summary of above
website)
www.cancerinform.org/chemotherapy.html
Also, most alternative cancer treatments (including dietary
approaches) are much more effective if a patient has NOT had
chemotherapy (and particularly not extensive chemotherapy). However, I
don't believe this applies to vincristine and bleomycin, which (to the
best of my knowledge) do only minimal harm to the immune system.

Hello,
For those considering chemo I repost the following:




K. Gold
www.goldenglow.wholefoodfarmacy.com
An easy, painless way to transition to raw foods.

Why would you be perplexed? I think the person gave an honest answer
to someone seeking information.

--- In FlaxSeedOil2@..., "Wilhelm Hansen" <wilhelmh@t...>
wrote:

I must say, I am perplexed by your post. Have you forgotten that

this is an alternative site?

Wilhelm


I would continue with the cisplatin, I took carboplatin, which

put me in

remission, Have uterine cancer stage 4, Nov 24, 1999. I would

continue the

flaxseed oil regimen, and recommend you try and eat little

meals. Your body needs

the food to fight back, and the body needs food to heal too.

Cynthia

Does anyone know of any insurance that will cover some of the alternative med.?

I am tri-care, does anyone here have my same insurance? OF so how do they go about it?

Bori




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I was wondering must the CC be smooth as well?

Did any of you feel head aches and a bit weak and shaky?


Those of you who had tumors on your neck did you feel tightness as they shrunk?

Bori



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Thanks,
Del


Wilhelm wrote:

Del,
I have never paid attention to the writing on the back cover of that

book. It looks like some promotional stuff written by the publisher.

It is not clear to me what he is referring to. It could be referring

to hydrogenated fat because it is foreign to the body and cannot be
assimilated. It just gets deposited and interferes with the normal
processes. At the time that this book was written the ill effects of
hydrogenated fat was not as well known as it is now.

It could also be a reference to FO helping in the assimilation of

other fats (not hydrogenated fats), but as far as I remember, she
wrote that in another book. Sorry, that is all I can think of right now.

Wilhelm

Was the flax oil in the study administered along with a sulfurated protein
(like low fat cottage cheese or quark)) to make it water-soluble and, in
turn, available to the body? Of course not. Even Dr. Budwig, the discoverer
of the wonderful attributes of the flax oil/sulfurated protein synergy
stated that flax oil alone will do more harm than good. Perfectly worthless
study that does a tremendous disservice to the uses of flax oil when used
properly.
Harry

Wilhelm,
Cynthia was responding by request of Cliff's post on those treated
with chemo as she has and is sharing her experience with this poster.
No one here has forgotten what this site represents.

Pat

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quote"This is a subject that is difficult to answer here without
being accused of practicing medicine without a license.

I will put on a couple of of documents which may give some ideas.

If there is anyone on the list who has been cured of cancer with chemo
they should answer and give details.

Cliff"end quote

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--- In FlaxSeedOil2@..., "Wilhelm Hansen" <wilhelmh@t...>
wrote:

I must say, I am perplexed by your post. Have you forgotten that

this is an alternative site?

Wilhelm


I would continue with the cisplatin, I took carboplatin, which

put me in remission, Have uterine cancer stage 4, Nov 24, 1999. I
would continue the flaxseed oil regimen, and recommend you try and
eat little meals. Your body needs the food to fight back, and the
body needs food to heal too.

Cynthia

Hi Ekta, welcome to this group.
Brown flaxseeds are just as good as golden flaxseeds. The same goes for the oil pressed from them. You can use either type. I have no idea whether the flax oil I am using is made from one or the other.

Wilhelm


Hi All,

My name is Ekta and I live in India. I am new to this group and have been receiving posts for about two weeks now. They are very enlightening. I joined this group because my mother was diagnosed with Ovarian Cancer and I found a post on the net when searching for Budwig's diet. Mom has gone through surgery which removed her ovaries and some part of the ommentum.

There was malignancy in the ovaries as well as some gross disease (1mm) on the ommentum. She had some ascitic fluid which has not made a reappearance in about a month or so. She started on Chemotherapy about 21 days ago and has taken one cycle already.

I would like to start her on the FO/CC regimen while she's on chemotherapy. THis is the only round of chemo that she will go through as we are doing other therapies adjuvant to chemo. Barron's program, noni juice, wheatgrass, ganoderma, chlorella and a high fibre, high protien nutritional diet etc.

My actual query is that I am not able to find golden flaxseeds in India - all I can get is organic brown flaxseeds and cold pressed flax oil made of organic brown flaxseed. Can I use these instead of golden flaxseeds?

Ekta

This just came to me today and I wanted to share it here for some
insight on this.

Pat

----------------------------------------------------------------------

Flax Seed Oil Actually Increases Prostate Cancer While Fish Oil
Decreases It

A recent study of about 47,000 men has found the ALA omega-3 fatty
acids stimulate the growth of prostate tumors in men. Of the men
monitored over 14 years, some 3,000 struggled with prostate cancer
and about one in seven were suffering from the advanced stages of the
disease.

Researchers found men who were suffering from advanced prostate
cancer had higher quantities of ALA from non-animal as well as meat
and dairy sources.

Scientists also found EPA and DHA could reduce the risk of total and
advanced prostate cancer too. How does EPA and DHA work to prevent
prostate cancer? Researchers offered these possibilities:

modification of membrane phospholipid composition
alteration of cell signaling and receptor activity
lipid peroxidation
cyclooxygenase inhibition
cytokine production
interference with androgen activity

American Journal of Clinical Nutrition July 2004 80(1);204-216

Hi Wilma: I'm sorry if I offended you with my chemo post, that's why I
rarely write in. I am in favored of flaxseed oil, which literally gave me my life
back after a stroke in year 2000.

Cynthia