Papaya

Ron Muscella

I also read where people have dried out the black round seeds in a papaya,

?...in which there seems to be hundreds in one large fruit,

.......and ate them also.

Is there anything about if these seeds are healthy and compatible under BP?

On Sunday, December 17, 2023 at 07:52:06 AM EST, jfanciullacci via groups.io <jfanciullacci@...> wrote:

Hi Frances

IMHO, the extra oil and quark might be causing the intestinal discomfort if it isn’t balanced with enough digestive enzymes. Dr. Budwig’s plan was carefully balanced, including sauerkraut to help with digestion, but also pineapple and papaya. Her product “Fermentgold” was a mix of papaya and apple juice. I’ve made this at home by blitzing papaya, then adding fresh apple juice and freshly ground flax seeds.
Eating papaya might help if you don’t have time for juicing.
Papain, the digestive enzyme in papaya, is also thought to aid the bioavailability of cucurmin, a well known cancer fighter. It has many other benefits too, so well worth adding to your husband’s arsenal!

Best wishes
Julie, UK

Re: Is is possible to have too many FOCC servings? And flax seeds question.

#147524

Hi Frances

IMHO, the extra oil and quark might be causing the intestinal discomfort if it isn’t balanced with enough digestive enzymes. Dr. Budwig’s plan was carefully balanced, including sauerkraut to help with digestion, but also pineapple and papaya. Her product “Fermentgold” was a mix of papaya and apple juice. I’ve made this at home by blitzing papaya, then adding fresh apple juice and freshly ground flax seeds.
Eating papaya might help if you don’t have time for juicing.
Papain, the digestive enzyme in papaya, is also thought to aid the bioavailability of cucurmin, a well known cancer fighter. It has many other benefits too, so well worth adding to your husband’s arsenal!

Best wishes
Julie, UK

Re: Is is possible to have too many FOCC servings? And flax seeds question.

#147523

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Hi Frances,

Flaxseeds are difficult for me to digest. ?Not sure if his body can still make enough enzymes for digestion? add pineapple and carrots. ?Also make sure he has enough sourCe of iron.

Best regards,

Joyce?

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Rod Holmgren via groups.io <s4sindus@...>於2023年12月16日上午1:25寫道：

?
Good Morning,

What size servings is he doing? The protocol calls for 6/3 CC to FO, but when I started I did 8/4. I was 230 lbs at the time and I figured it wouldn't hurt to do more. Three servins @ 6/3 is not much more than two servings @ 8/4 so I don't think it is a problem of having too much of the "muesli" impeding progress. There could be a reaction to the amount of oil, unrelated to the protocol however. As far as the flax seeds, I think it better to add them than to not, but I don't believe the flax seeds are as critical as the oil. Is he following the diet and also drinking the sauerkraut juice? I would be supplementing vit D, even if getting regular sunshine.

All the best, Rod in MN/USA

On Thursday, December 14, 2023 at 04:22:38 PM CST, Frances <fmgill@...> wrote:

Hi, Everyone!:
My husband, Phil has been on the Budwig diet for 4 years January 2020 start). During that time he's been doing the FOCC 3 times per day.? While reading Michael Bierschenk's new book on the Budwig diet, we realized that we're doing one FOCC too many. Could this cause a problem??

The reason for asking is that about a year ago he started experiencing some inflammation in the upper abdominal area as well as some intestinal discomfort which has slowly worsened over time. Concerned that it may be liver or pancreas related possibly caused by too much flax seed oil. Could this be an issue?

The reason for not just going ahead and dropping it out is that's a lot of calories to try to make up some other way. Thanks in advance for any help!

Also, he was only using flax seeds in 1 FOCC, as he claimed he couldn't deal with the grinder at work, where he has the other 2 FOCC servings (morning and lunch). He used hemp seeeds. A few months ago he finally agreed to the flax seeds and now has them with those 2 servings as well. Could this have slowed his progress? Again, thanks for any help!

Background: 12/31/19 he discovered lumps in his throat. His symptoms indicated to his ND that it's thyroid cancer. He managed 2 Navarro Clinic tests in 2021 with results in the low cancer range (a little above 50 Int. Units). He's 64 yo.?

Re: Is is possible to have too many FOCC servings? And flax seeds question.

#147522

."one day is beans and rice"

I think that five-seven days/week with LEGUMES would be a good idea.

I agree: extra FOCC is probably not causing his abdominal issue.

Rahel

Jerusalem

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On Sat, Dec 16, 2023 at 10:34?PM Frances <fmgill@...> wrote:

HI, Rahel!

He has fruits and nuts with his FOCC. We do have supper. I'm not the best at this, but it's usually either a salad or smoothie, and a veggie or two plus something "starchy", say buckwheat or potatoes or sweet potato, and one day is beans and rice. He is still working a job and doesn't have time to do more than the 2 FOCCs (morning and lunch). The 3rd one is desert after supper.

In our 60s, neither of us were eating very much before all this started, although we had high quality grass-fed meat or wild-caught fish (less often, except his sardines).?

He had been feeling fairly good so we'd added in sardines (per his ND) and crackers 1x/week, 1 boiled/deviled egg a week, an occaisional other "treat" (found a good frozen pizza with sourdough crust, all organic). Wild-caught salmon for holiday dinners. All these we have cut out in the last couple of months.?

He has been maintaining weight with the 3 FOCC/day, so was concerned about dropping one out completely. It does sound like maybe that's not his abdominal issue, though.

Thank you for your reply!

Re: Is is possible to have too many FOCC servings? And flax seeds question.

#147521

HI, Rahel!

He has fruits and nuts with his FOCC. We do have supper. I'm not the best at this, but it's usually either a salad or smoothie, and a veggie or two plus something "starchy", say buckwheat or potatoes or sweet potato, and one day is beans and rice. He is still working a job and doesn't have time to do more than the 2 FOCCs (morning and lunch). The 3rd one is desert after supper.

In our 60s, neither of us were eating very much before all this started, although we had high quality grass-fed meat or wild-caught fish (less often, except his sardines).?

He had been feeling fairly good so we'd added in sardines (per his ND) and crackers 1x/week, 1 boiled/deviled egg a week, an occaisional other "treat" (found a good frozen pizza with sourdough crust, all organic). Wild-caught salmon for holiday dinners. All these we have cut out in the last couple of months.?

He has been maintaining weight with the 3 FOCC/day, so was concerned about dropping one out completely. It does sound like maybe that's not his abdominal issue, though.

Thank you for your reply!

Re: Is is possible to have too many FOCC servings? And flax seeds question.

#147520

Thanks, Rod.
He is doing the 6/3 amount, usually 3x/day. Very occaisonally, two at 6/3 and one at 4/2. We're following the diet as best we can. He is drinking sauerkraut juice (albeit purchased, but I think we've got a good on -- Biotta), and eats some sauerkraut, homemade. He does supplement with vit. D, at the amount set by his ND (3,000 IU 2x/day). He gets some outside time at lunch during the week and then a typically a good amount outside (yard work) on Saturdays, and about 30 minutes on Sundays.?
Thanks for your reply!!

Re: Latest success stories/To Sarah Weisel

#147519

Hi Joost,

I believe Rod means that the misconception of the Budwig Diet is that it KiLLS cancer when the actual methodology would seem to help the body deal with the cancer on a more equal footing and hopefully the outcome would be the body HEALS. That is the way I took what he wrote to be. 

Jenny

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On Dec 16, 2023, at 6:57 AM, Joost <joost@...> wrote:

?Hi Rod,

Which part of your message concerns common misconception?

Kind regards,
Joost · NL

Op 15-12-2023 om 23:38 schreef Rod Holmgren via groups.io:
Budwig is a cancer HEALING protocol, not a cancer KILLING protocol. Thei excerpt is taken from Sanda's site:

Dr. Budwig identified the damaging effects of hydrogenated and other denatured fats upon human health and discovered the powerfully healing nature of cold-pressed, liquid flaxseed oil on various degenerative diseases, including cancer. She showed that highly unsaturated flaxseed oil contains electrons and essential fatty acids that can revitalize cells, heal the cell membrane and improve oxygen absorption.

She discovered and proved that the adhesive capacity of sulfurated proteins (found in quark and cottage cheese) bond with highly unsaturated flaxseed oil to render the oil water soluble – making flaxseed oil much more easily absorbed and effectively used by the body’s cells. Additionally important, once bonded with the sulphurated proteins, flaxseed oil becomes bioavailable to the tiniest capillaries, which may have become blocked by damaging, saturated fats.

Dr. Otto Warburg, who was awarded the Nobel Prize for Physiology or Medicine in 1931 for his research on cellular respiration, explained: “The growth of cancer cells is initiated by a relative lack of oxygen. Cancer cannot live in an oxygen-rich environment.” Yet, Warburg was unable to find a way to restore oxygen to the cells.

Twenty-one years later, in a paper entitled “On Fat Biology V. Paper Chromatography of Blood Lipoids, the Tumour Problem and Fat Research,” Dr. Budwig wrote, “It is basically proven that highly unsaturated fatty acids are the heretofore undiscovered decisive factor in respiratory enzyme function, i.e. constitute the second part of the ‘equation’ that nobelist Otto Warburg had been unable to find.”

It is a common misconception by many.

Re: Latest success stories/To Sarah Weisel

#147518

Many people think Budwig kills cancer, when in reality Budwig actually heals cancer cells. Same end, different path.

Rod in MN/USA

On Saturday, December 16, 2023 at 05:57:41 AM CST, Joost <joost@...> wrote:

Hi Rod,

Which part of your message concerns common misconception?

Kind regards,
Joost · NL

Op 15-12-2023 om 23:38 schreef Rod Holmgren via groups.io:
> Budwig is a cancer HEALING protocol, not a cancer KILLING protocol.
> Thei excerpt is taken from Sanda's site:
>
> Dr. Budwig identified the damaging effects of hydrogenated and other
> denatured fats upon human health and discovered the powerfully healing
> nature of cold-pressed, liquid flaxseed oil on various degenerative
> diseases, including cancer. She showed that highly unsaturated
> flaxseed oil contains electrons and essential fatty acids that can
> revitalize cells, heal the cell membrane and improve oxygen absorption.
>
> She discovered and proved that the adhesive capacity of sulfurated
> proteins (found in quark and cottage cheese) bond with highly
> unsaturated flaxseed oil to render the oil water soluble – making
> flaxseed oil much more easily absorbed and effectively used by the
> body’s cells. Additionally important, once bonded with the sulphurated
> proteins, flaxseed oil becomes bioavailable to the tiniest
> capillaries, which may have become blocked by damaging, saturated fats.
>
> Dr. Otto Warburg, who was awarded the Nobel Prize for Physiology or
> Medicine in 1931 for his research on cellular respiration, explained:
> “The growth of cancer cells is initiated by a relative lack of oxygen.
> Cancer cannot live in an oxygen-rich environment.” Yet, Warburg was
> unable to find a way to restore oxygen to the cells.
>
> Twenty-one years later, in a paper entitled “On Fat Biology V. Paper
> Chromatography of Blood Lipoids, the Tumour Problem and Fat Research,”
> Dr. Budwig wrote, “It is basically proven that highly unsaturated
> fatty acids are the heretofore undiscovered decisive factor in
> respiratory enzyme function, i.e. constitute the second part of the
> ‘equation’ that nobelist Otto Warburg had been unable to find.”
>
> It is a common misconception by many.

Re: Latest success stories/To Sarah Weisel

#147517

thank you, Rod.

now I need not respond.

appreciate it.

Rahel

Jerusalem

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On Sat, Dec 16, 2023 at 12:38?AM Rod Holmgren via <s4sindus=[email protected]> wrote:

Budwig is a cancer HEALING protocol, not a cancer KILLING protocol. Thei excerpt is taken from Sanda's site:

Dr. Budwig identified the damaging effects of hydrogenated and other denatured fats upon human health and discovered the powerfully healing nature of cold-pressed, liquid flaxseed oil on various degenerative diseases, including cancer. She showed that highly unsaturated flaxseed oil contains electrons and essential fatty acids that can revitalize cells, heal the cell membrane and improve oxygen absorption.

She discovered and proved that the adhesive capacity of sulfurated proteins (found in quark and cottage cheese) bond with highly unsaturated flaxseed oil to render the oil water soluble – making flaxseed oil much more easily absorbed and effectively used by the body’s cells. Additionally important, once bonded with the sulphurated proteins, flaxseed oil becomes bioavailable to the tiniest capillaries, which may have become blocked by damaging, saturated fats.

Dr. Otto Warburg, who was awarded the Nobel Prize for Physiology or Medicine in 1931 for his research on cellular respiration, explained: “The growth of cancer cells is initiated by a relative lack of oxygen. Cancer cannot live in an oxygen-rich environment.” Yet, Warburg was unable to find a way to restore oxygen to the cells.

Twenty-one years later, in a paper entitled “On Fat Biology V. Paper Chromatography of Blood Lipoids, the Tumour Problem and Fat Research,” Dr. Budwig wrote, “It is basically proven that highly unsaturated fatty acids are the heretofore undiscovered decisive factor in respiratory enzyme function, i.e. constitute the second part of the ‘equation’ that nobelist Otto Warburg had been unable to find.”

It is a common misconception by many.

All the best, Rod in MN/USA

On Friday, December 15, 2023 at 02:06:08 PM CST, sara.weisel <sara.weisel@...> wrote:

Rachel,
Dr. Budwig stated that cancer cells are weak and vulnerable.? Her cancer killing protocol consists of mixing flaxseed oil and lowfat quark/cottage cheese with an immersion blender.? The cottage cheese(positively charged sulfur particles) when mixed with the flaxseed oil(negatively charged electrons) creates a water soluble substance that gets into a body's smallest capillaries and infuses oxygen into all your cells.? This kills cancer cells.? Dr. Budvig also stated that a cancer patient needs to sunbathe 20 minutes per day in order to get the sun's photons into their cells.? I do not understand this at all since it is quantum physics and way above my pay grade..? This is the main part of the Budwig protocol and many people have had great success with it.? I hope this helps.

?

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#147516

Hi Rod,

Which part of your message concerns common misconception?

Kind regards,
Joost · NL

Op 15-12-2023 om 23:38 schreef Rod Holmgren via groups.io:

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Budwig is a cancer HEALING protocol, not a cancer KILLING protocol. Thei excerpt is taken from Sanda's site:

Dr. Budwig identified the damaging effects of hydrogenated and other denatured fats upon human health and discovered the powerfully healing nature of cold-pressed, liquid flaxseed oil on various degenerative diseases, including cancer. She showed that highly unsaturated flaxseed oil contains electrons and essential fatty acids that can revitalize cells, heal the cell membrane and improve oxygen absorption.

She discovered and proved that the adhesive capacity of sulfurated proteins (found in quark and cottage cheese) bond with highly unsaturated flaxseed oil to render the oil water soluble – making flaxseed oil much more easily absorbed and effectively used by the body’s cells. Additionally important, once bonded with the sulphurated proteins, flaxseed oil becomes bioavailable to the tiniest capillaries, which may have become blocked by damaging, saturated fats.

Dr. Otto Warburg, who was awarded the Nobel Prize for Physiology or Medicine in 1931 for his research on cellular respiration, explained: “The growth of cancer cells is initiated by a relative lack of oxygen. Cancer cannot live in an oxygen-rich environment.” Yet, Warburg was unable to find a way to restore oxygen to the cells.

Twenty-one years later, in a paper entitled “On Fat Biology V. Paper Chromatography of Blood Lipoids, the Tumour Problem and Fat Research,” Dr. Budwig wrote, “It is basically proven that highly unsaturated fatty acids are the heretofore undiscovered decisive factor in respiratory enzyme function, i.e. constitute the second part of the ‘equation’ that nobelist Otto Warburg had been unable to find.”

It is a common misconception by many.

Re: Latest success stories/To Sarah Weisel

#147515

Budwig is a cancer HEALING protocol, not a cancer KILLING protocol. Thei excerpt is taken from Sanda's site:

Dr. Budwig identified the damaging effects of hydrogenated and other denatured fats upon human health and discovered the powerfully healing nature of cold-pressed, liquid flaxseed oil on various degenerative diseases, including cancer. She showed that highly unsaturated flaxseed oil contains electrons and essential fatty acids that can revitalize cells, heal the cell membrane and improve oxygen absorption.

She discovered and proved that the adhesive capacity of sulfurated proteins (found in quark and cottage cheese) bond with highly unsaturated flaxseed oil to render the oil water soluble – making flaxseed oil much more easily absorbed and effectively used by the body’s cells. Additionally important, once bonded with the sulphurated proteins, flaxseed oil becomes bioavailable to the tiniest capillaries, which may have become blocked by damaging, saturated fats.

Dr. Otto Warburg, who was awarded the Nobel Prize for Physiology or Medicine in 1931 for his research on cellular respiration, explained: “The growth of cancer cells is initiated by a relative lack of oxygen. Cancer cannot live in an oxygen-rich environment.” Yet, Warburg was unable to find a way to restore oxygen to the cells.

Twenty-one years later, in a paper entitled “On Fat Biology V. Paper Chromatography of Blood Lipoids, the Tumour Problem and Fat Research,” Dr. Budwig wrote, “It is basically proven that highly unsaturated fatty acids are the heretofore undiscovered decisive factor in respiratory enzyme function, i.e. constitute the second part of the ‘equation’ that nobelist Otto Warburg had been unable to find.”

It is a common misconception by many.

All the best, Rod in MN/USA

On Friday, December 15, 2023 at 02:06:08 PM CST, sara.weisel <sara.weisel@...> wrote:

Rachel,

Dr. Budwig stated that cancer cells are weak and vulnerable.? Her cancer killing protocol consists of mixing flaxseed oil and lowfat quark/cottage cheese with an immersion blender.? The cottage cheese(positively charged sulfur particles) when mixed with the flaxseed oil(negatively charged electrons) creates a water soluble substance that gets into a body's smallest capillaries and infuses oxygen into all your cells.? This kills cancer cells.? Dr. Budvig also stated that a cancer patient needs to sunbathe 20 minutes per day in order to get the sun's photons into their cells.? I do not understand this at all since it is quantum physics and way above my pay grade..? This is the main part of the Budwig protocol and many people have had great success with it.? I hope this helps.

?

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#147514

Rachel,

Dr. Budwig stated that cancer cells are weak and vulnerable.? Her cancer killing protocol consists of mixing flaxseed oil and lowfat quark/cottage cheese with an immersion blender.? The cottage cheese(positively charged sulfur particles) when mixed with the flaxseed oil(negatively charged electrons) creates a water soluble substance that gets into a body's smallest capillaries and infuses oxygen into all your cells.? This kills cancer cells.? Dr. Budvig also stated that a cancer patient needs to sunbathe 20 minutes per day in order to get the sun's photons into their cells.? I do not understand this at all since it is quantum physics and way above my pay grade..? This is the main part of the Budwig protocol and many people have had great success with it.? I hope this helps.

?

Re: Is is possible to have too many FOCC servings? And flax seeds question.

#147513

Shalom!

I agree with Rod that the extra FOCC is probably not dangerous.? However, if your husband is eating FOCC at three meals, when is he eating anything else?? JUST FOCC with fruit and or vegetable salad means that he is probably not eating legumes or cooked whole grains, or steamed vegetables, all of which are recommended as part of "supper".??

with wishes for good health,

Rahel

Jerusalem?

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On Fri, Dec 15, 2023 at 7:25?PM Rod Holmgren via <s4sindus=[email protected]> wrote:

Good Morning,

What size servings is he doing? The protocol calls for 6/3 CC to FO, but when I started I did 8/4. I was 230 lbs at the time and I figured it wouldn't hurt to do more. Three servins @ 6/3 is not much more than two servings @ 8/4 so I don't think it is a problem of having too much of the "muesli" impeding progress. There could be a reaction to the amount of oil, unrelated to the protocol however. As far as the flax seeds, I think it better to add them than to not, but I don't believe the flax seeds are as critical as the oil. Is he following the diet and also drinking the sauerkraut juice? I would be supplementing vit D, even if getting regular sunshine.

All the best, Rod in MN/USA

On Thursday, December 14, 2023 at 04:22:38 PM CST, Frances <fmgill@...> wrote:

Hi, Everyone!:
My husband, Phil has been on the Budwig diet for 4 years January 2020 start). During that time he's been doing the FOCC 3 times per day.? While reading Michael Bierschenk's new book on the Budwig diet, we realized that we're doing one FOCC too many. Could this cause a problem??

The reason for asking is that about a year ago he started experiencing some inflammation in the upper abdominal area as well as some intestinal discomfort which has slowly worsened over time. Concerned that it may be liver or pancreas related possibly caused by too much flax seed oil. Could this be an issue?

The reason for not just going ahead and dropping it out is that's a lot of calories to try to make up some other way. Thanks in advance for any help!

Also, he was only using flax seeds in 1 FOCC, as he claimed he couldn't deal with the grinder at work, where he has the other 2 FOCC servings (morning and lunch). He used hemp seeeds. A few months ago he finally agreed to the flax seeds and now has them with those 2 servings as well. Could this have slowed his progress? Again, thanks for any help!

Background: 12/31/19 he discovered lumps in his throat. His symptoms indicated to his ND that it's thyroid cancer. He managed 2 Navarro Clinic tests in 2021 with results in the low cancer range (a little above 50 Int. Units). He's 64 yo.?

Re: Latest success stories

#147512

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This would be outside the budwig protocol and you may want to search the archives.?

But for vitamins I would add high dose melatonin all day long in few hundred mg to gram dose. There are some Facebook groups practicing this and have found good results.?

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On Dec 8, 2023, at 1:56 PM, Irina <ipravdina@...> wrote:

?Dear all,
?

I am new on this forum and would like to know if there are any success stories wih Budwig protocol from years 2021, 2022, 2023. I need a little encouragement :-)
I have read the files section with success stories and on the website ?but would like to know if there are more recent ones.
If you do have such a story please advise if you've done just Budwig or used conventional treatments as well or if ou added supplements (which ones would be also nice to know).

Thank you,
Irina

Re: Is is possible to have too many FOCC servings? And flax seeds question.

#147511

Good Morning,

What size servings is he doing? The protocol calls for 6/3 CC to FO, but when I started I did 8/4. I was 230 lbs at the time and I figured it wouldn't hurt to do more. Three servins @ 6/3 is not much more than two servings @ 8/4 so I don't think it is a problem of having too much of the "muesli" impeding progress. There could be a reaction to the amount of oil, unrelated to the protocol however. As far as the flax seeds, I think it better to add them than to not, but I don't believe the flax seeds are as critical as the oil. Is he following the diet and also drinking the sauerkraut juice? I would be supplementing vit D, even if getting regular sunshine.

All the best, Rod in MN/USA

On Thursday, December 14, 2023 at 04:22:38 PM CST, Frances <fmgill@...> wrote:

Hi, Everyone!:
My husband, Phil has been on the Budwig diet for 4 years January 2020 start). During that time he's been doing the FOCC 3 times per day.? While reading Michael Bierschenk's new book on the Budwig diet, we realized that we're doing one FOCC too many. Could this cause a problem??

The reason for asking is that about a year ago he started experiencing some inflammation in the upper abdominal area as well as some intestinal discomfort which has slowly worsened over time. Concerned that it may be liver or pancreas related possibly caused by too much flax seed oil. Could this be an issue?

The reason for not just going ahead and dropping it out is that's a lot of calories to try to make up some other way. Thanks in advance for any help!

Also, he was only using flax seeds in 1 FOCC, as he claimed he couldn't deal with the grinder at work, where he has the other 2 FOCC servings (morning and lunch). He used hemp seeeds. A few months ago he finally agreed to the flax seeds and now has them with those 2 servings as well. Could this have slowed his progress? Again, thanks for any help!

Background: 12/31/19 he discovered lumps in his throat. His symptoms indicated to his ND that it's thyroid cancer. He managed 2 Navarro Clinic tests in 2021 with results in the low cancer range (a little above 50 Int. Units). He's 64 yo.?

Is is possible to have too many FOCC servings? And flax seeds question.

#147510

Hi, Everyone!:
My husband, Phil has been on the Budwig diet for 4 years January 2020 start). During that time he's been doing the FOCC 3 times per day.? While reading Michael Bierschenk's new book on the Budwig diet, we realized that we're doing one FOCC too many. Could this cause a problem??

The reason for asking is that about a year ago he started experiencing some inflammation in the upper abdominal area as well as some intestinal discomfort which has slowly worsened over time. Concerned that it may be liver or pancreas related possibly caused by too much flax seed oil. Could this be an issue?

The reason for not just going ahead and dropping it out is that's a lot of calories to try to make up some other way. Thanks in advance for any help!

Also, he was only using flax seeds in 1 FOCC, as he claimed he couldn't deal with the grinder at work, where he has the other 2 FOCC servings (morning and lunch). He used hemp seeeds. A few months ago he finally agreed to the flax seeds and now has them with those 2 servings as well. Could this have slowed his progress? Again, thanks for any help!

Background: 12/31/19 he discovered lumps in his throat. His symptoms indicated to his ND that it's thyroid cancer. He managed 2 Navarro Clinic tests in 2021 with results in the low cancer range (a little above 50 Int. Units). He's 64 yo.?

Re: Latest success stories/To Sarah Weisel

#147509

Hi Irina,

I have been following the Budwig protocol for under 2 months and am already seeing progress. People at my job have commented that my tumor (under my jaw) is considerably smaller.

I follow the diet strictly. I also drink 3-3oz.cups of essiac tea every day. I do take supplements, especially D because I work inside all day (I leave for work in the dark, and it is dark when I go home!) I also drink at least 32 oz. of green tea every day.

I was encouraged to follow the diet from reading success stories with Budwig and other diet-related protocols on the Templeton Wellness website. I followed the Anti-cancer mom (Courtney Campbell) stories and was impressed with her success.

There are other stories on the Templeton site of people using a macrobiotic diet or Gerson diet and having great results. If Budwig is not right for you, perhaps one of the others would help. As it has been said, whatever you choose, do it completely without modifications to get the most benefit.

I chose not to have any other treatment for my tumor, so I do not have the complications of trying to heal from chemo or radiation.

I wish you the best,

Barb, USA?

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On Thu, Dec 14, 2023, 7:25 AM Irina <ipravdina@...> wrote:

Hi Sarah,

Are you saying I should not be following modified Budwig protocol at all as it will not bring results?

As I have expleined in my message there is a good reason why I do modified protocol. I can not use flax seeds as they drop my blood preassure too low to the point where I can not function and feel really bad and then the bleeding starts which is dangerous for me as I am seriously anemic. Yes, this is purely from flax seeds and when I do not use them I do not have all of the above. So when you say they can not hurt the body I agree with you but not in my case and not for me at the moment. Papaya and pineapple are not sold where I live and as I live in Russia there is no sun here till mid May so sitting in front of the sun with minimum clothes is out of question untill then. I do drink sauerkrat juice in the morning, eat musli twice a day (without flax seeds though) and eat sauerkrat often as it is a part of russian cuisine. I do not eat meat, fish, poultry, eggs, cheese, wheat, processed foods or anything else restricted by the protocol.

So are you saying it will have no benefit for me to continue on with the Budwig protocol this way? Because if it is so I will denfinitly switch to some other protocol as I do not want to waste my time.

Are you a doctor by any chance? I always thought that triglycerides are important when they are above the norm by 110 points, so if you are a doctor please advise why I should not worry about them being so high and how they influence overall health.

Thank you,
Irina

Re: Latest success stories/To Sarah Weisel

#147508

Shalom Irina,

Sara wrote:

"Doing a modified version of Budwig will not get you results. Whatever protocol you decide on, it's best to go all in."

It is true that, usually, doing "PART but not ALL" of the? Budwig Protocol is less successful than doing it all?without exception.? However, clearly, some people cannot do that.? Someone that?is lactose intolerant can?do the protocol only if using FERMENTED MILK PRODUCTS, like strained kefir or yogurt.? That would change the protocol very little.

Someone ALLERGIC to casein cannot, under any circumstances, eat the cottage cheese/flaxseed oil mixture - but, usually, can eat ground flaxseeds.

It seems that you have a different sensitivity, as you wrote: "I can not use flax seeds as they drop my blood preassure too low to the point where I can not function and feel really bad and then the bleeding starts which is dangerous for me as I am seriously anemic. Yes, this is purely from flax seeds and when I do not use them I do not have all of the above."??It is well known that flaxseeds are a blood thinner.? I believe that flaxseed oil is also a blood thinner.??Are you sure that it is the flax SEEDS that cause this drop in blood pressure?? Are you saying that the?flaxseed OIL does not do this to you?

I am puzzled?as to why the seeds would do this?but the oil would not do this, but if that is really the case, then certainly, consuming the oil/protein mixture of flaxseed?OIL and cottage cheese twice daily is to your advantage, even without the ground flax seeds.

If I have misread your explanation, and in fact the flaxseed OIL is also to be avoided, that does not mean that you cannot benefit at all from the? Budwig Protocol.? The main nutritional goal is to increase the amount of Omega-3 oils in your body.? If you are not able to get these oils from flaxseeds, you can try, as much as possible, to increase your consumption of omega-3 oils by consuming other foods rich in omega-3.? These include HEMP seeds and walnuts.? Fish oils or KRILL oils are also rich in omega-3, but are not vegetarian sources.? Perhaps a combination of Hemp Seeds, Walnuts, and KRILL would work for you.

If you are careful about eliminating all of the forbidden foods, and concentrate?on the permitted foods, including a source of omega-3 oils, you will be supporting your healing.? It might not be as efficient as the oil/protein mixture with the ground flaxseeds, but it will be much better than nothing.

Sara also wrote:

"Triglycerides are the least of your worries at this point and flax seeds and their oil cannot hurt the body."

I imagine that she meant that the threat of cancer is more serious than increased triglycerides.

You wrote "I always thought that triglycerides are important when they are above the norm by 110 points, ..."

I am also not a doctor.

What's considered normal?? from?

A simple blood test can reveal whether your triglycerides fall into a healthy range:

Normal — Less than 150 milligrams per deciliter (mg/dL), or less than 1.7 millimoles per liter (mmol/L)
Borderline high — 150 to 199 mg/dL (1.8 to 2.2 mmol/L)
High — 200 to 499 mg/dL (2.3 to 5.6 mmol/L)
Very high — 500 mg/dL or above (5.7 mmol/L or above)

If Normal is (see above)?— Less than 150 milligrams per deciliter (mg/dL), and you have 110more, or 260milligrams per deciliter, then you have "Borderline high" and not?very high triglycerides.? ?From what I have read, restricting your carbohydrate consumption, and exercising, should result in a decrease in triglycerides.? NOTE that Dr.? Budwig insisted that cancer patients should NOT exercise extensively, but rather gently.? Be careful.?

Since you??live in Russia where there is no sun till mid May, clearly you cannot enjoy the sunlight; it would probably be advised for you to supplement with Vitamin D3 and Vitamin K2.

You drink sauerkraut juice in the morning, eat the?flaxseed oil/quark mixture (without flax seeds) twice daily.? As part of the Russian cuisine, you eat sauerkraut often (it must not be cooked) - very good.? You do not eat meat, fish, poultry, eggs, cheese, wheat, processed foods or anything else restricted by the protocol.? I believe that you are doing as well as you can, and that the protocol will help you.

I would be interested to know how flaxSEEDS lower your blood pressure, while flaxseed OIL does not.? Do you have an explanation for that?

wishing you good healing,?

with warm wishes from war torn Israel,

Rahel

Jerusalem

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On Thu, Dec 14, 2023 at 2:25?PM Irina <ipravdina@...> wrote:

Hi Sarah,

Are you saying I should not be following modified Budwig protocol at all as it will not bring results?

As I have expleined in my message there is a good reason why I do modified protocol. I can not use flax seeds as they drop my blood preassure too low to the point where I can not function and feel really bad and then the bleeding starts which is dangerous for me as I am seriously anemic. Yes, this is purely from flax seeds and when I do not use them I do not have all of the above. So when you say they can not hurt the body I agree with you but not in my case and not for me at the moment. Papaya and pineapple are not sold where I live and as I live in Russia there is no sun here till mid May so sitting in front of the sun with minimum clothes is out of question untill then. I do drink sauerkrat juice in the morning, eat musli twice a day (without flax seeds though) and eat sauerkrat often as it is a part of russian cuisine. I do not eat meat, fish, poultry, eggs, cheese, wheat, processed foods or anything else restricted by the protocol.

So are you saying it will have no benefit for me to continue on with the Budwig protocol this way? Because if it is so I will denfinitly switch to some other protocol as I do not want to waste my time.

Are you a doctor by any chance? I always thought that triglycerides are important when they are above the norm by 110 points, so if you are a doctor please advise why I should not worry about them being so high and how they influence overall health.

Thank you,
Irina

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Ron Muscella

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"Sit by a sunny window"

......unfortunately,??you can't get adequate UVB exposure sitting indoors or in a car. Virtually all commercial and automobile glass blocks UVB rays. As a result,?you will not be able to increase your vitamin D levels by sitting in front of a sunny window, though much of the UVA radiation will penetrate the glass and may be harmful.

On Wednesday, December 13, 2023 at 09:06:57 PM EST, sara.weisel <sara.weisel@...> wrote:

Hi Irina,

Doing a modified version of Budwig will not get you results. Whatever protocol you decide on, it's best to go all in. Triglycerides are the least of your worries at this point and flax seeds and their oil cannot hurt the body. The science of the protocol is almost entirely based on the Flax oil cottage cheese?combo so at the?very least I would make sure to get two servings of those every day. It sounds like you have the nutrition down so that is good. Maybe ensure that you're drinking quality water as well and eat sauerkraut. Sit by a sunny window with as few clothes as possible as often as you can. It is quite important. Wishing you lots of luck and good health.?

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On Mon, Dec 11, 2023 at 9:47?AM Irina <ipravdina@...> wrote:

Hi Rod,

Thanks so much for your reply and congrats on your healing, this is really impressive! I understand from the files that Budwig protocol has some very good statistics for lung cancer (and some other cancers I guess).

I am trying to heal stage 4 ovarian cancer (I was first dx in 2014 with stage 1, had surgery and that was it but a recurrance in 2020 with stage 4). Surgery/radiation is not an option and I refused chemo. My dad and two of my aunts had cancers and all died after chemo. My sister is the only one who survived chemo but she had a type of cancer which has a very high rate of 'cure' with chemo. Her experience with chemo was so bad that I do not want to put myself through that. Doctors think I am stupid (and maybe I am) and that I am loosing time. Although they don't say chemo will heal cancer but maybe just stop it for a while (no guarantee for that either) and don't give much time (I have aleady outlived some of their prognosys) but the cancer is progressing and I wasn't able to stop it on my own.

I am 9 years vegan (with no sugar, processed foods, animal protein, alcohol, coffee, wheat, up until rercently oils) and I still had a recurrance. So I do not think cancer always comes from poor nutrition although it definitly plays its role. I've been doing tons of supplements, juicing, eating only raw for prolong times, coffee enemas, herbal teas, Essiac, Pau-d-Arco, colloidal silver, jumping on mini trampoline, ozonated water, PEMF and some other things I could get my hands on (not much is available in my country) but with no results.

Now there is ascites in abdominal area, right lung is fully shut down due to fluid build up (they used to drain it but it is no longer possible) and many other health problems due to cancer. I almost died the last time they drained ascites from abdominal area and it took me 3 months to get myself back together more or less (to get rid of high fever, start walking again and feel more energy), so I dread going through this procedure again and am looking for ways to get rid of it without the doctors.

It is a pretty tough situation and I wonder if Budwig can be of help. I've started modified Budwig protocol almost 2 months ago and so far I do not see much result (a bit more energy but I still feel very tired most of the time). Modified because my blood preassure is typically in the low range and if I add flax seeds to the FOCC or to juices it just drops so much that I feel really bad and can not function. So I use flax seeds once a week (with abovementioned consequences) and only 1tsp. I can not eat pineapples and papaya is not available most of the time. But I keep the rest of the protocol.

Also my triglycerides went up 110 points after starting Budwig mix and after some research I understand it happens when we consume too much fat (all the other reasons are not applilcable to me). I get my blood checked every 1,5-2 months and triglycerides were always in the normal range so I am sure it is from the oil as it is the most fat containing food I eat now (it is about 80g per day which is way more than the "norm"). Not sure what to do about that and how to get them down consuming that much oil.

So this is my story in short :-) I do hope Budwig can help yet am scared to "put all the eggs in one busket" since I have no idea how much time my body has. I am 47 and I really want to live. I take D3 as I live in the northern country with not much sun most of the year and blood thinners (I have to) but this is it for now since Budwig did not recommend any supplements or drugs.

It does seem to me like not that many survivor stories with Budwig protocol only nowadays which makes me worried a little but I may be wrong.

Thanks again for your reply!
Irina

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Hi Sarah,

Are you saying I should not be following modified Budwig protocol at all as it will not bring results?

As I have expleined in my message there is a good reason why I do modified protocol. I can not use flax seeds as they drop my blood preassure too low to the point where I can not function and feel really bad and then the bleeding starts which is dangerous for me as I am seriously anemic. Yes, this is purely from flax seeds and when I do not use them I do not have all of the above. So when you say they can not hurt the body I agree with you but not in my case and not for me at the moment. Papaya and pineapple are not sold where I live and as I live in Russia there is no sun here till mid May so sitting in front of the sun with minimum clothes is out of question untill then. I do drink sauerkrat juice in the morning, eat musli twice a day (without flax seeds though) and eat sauerkrat often as it is a part of russian cuisine. I do not eat meat, fish, poultry, eggs, cheese, wheat, processed foods or anything else restricted by the protocol.

So are you saying it will have no benefit for me to continue on with the Budwig protocol this way? Because if it is so I will denfinitly switch to some other protocol as I do not want to waste my time.

Are you a doctor by any chance? I always thought that triglycerides are important when they are above the norm by 110 points, so if you are a doctor please advise why I should not worry about them being so high and how they influence overall health.

Thank you,
Irina