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Shalom Benny,

Yes, it is possible that coughing up thick mucous is part of a detoxification process.? You can make this easier for your wife to cough it out by giving her lots of GARLIC - peel, grate it finely, allow to sit at room temperature for about 15 minutes, and then add it to food.? Personally, I prefer to eat my FOCC savory rather than sweet, so I would add the garlic to the FOCC. ?

Do not give garlic to your wife if she suffers from unusually low blood pressure.

As she does every two weeks, on 13 June, Sandra sent out "15 Key Points of Dr. Budwig's Plan".? I suggest that you find that post and read it carefully.

At first glance, your protocol for your wife sounds pretty good, but when read carefully, that are many points that should be changed.

I am not sure what you mean by "Although processed food with no made salt (only himalayan salt) n sugar still eaten by her." ?We usually refer to "processed food" as commercially processed food, I guess that you mean cooked food?? Himalayan salt is fine; and NO sugar is fine (is that what you meant?).

"Sit under the morning sun, while FO topical on her skin, then bath with epsom salt and baking soda mixture."

The bath sounds good, but do it before sitting in the sun.? Instead of FO on the skin, prepare ELDI oil = 75% FOCC + 25% wheat germ oil.? If you massage on the oil after the bath, the pores of the skin will be open (from the heat of the bath) and the oil will be better absorbed.? Also, good to have the ELDI oil on the skin when sun bathing.? Look in the Forum Files for more instructions regarding ELDI oils.

"Lunch : process food like organic rice n vegetables sometimes with fish and organic chicken/eggs, then FOCC, then carrot n beetroot juice

Dinner : FOCC, green juice with carrot n beet root, lastly Tahutian noni juice (maxidoid)"

Fish, chicken, and eggs are NOT allowed on the Budwig Diet. ?

You have not mentioned ground flax seeds, which are required.

You have not mentioned juiced sauerkraut (best home made).

You have not mentioned green tea, or honey, both of which are recommended.

You serve FOCC at midday and in the evening.? It is recommended to have it in the morning and at midday.

All this and more in Sandra's 15 Key Points.

Check it carefully?

Rahel

Jerusalem

On Fri, Jun 16, 2017 at 9:06 AM, Benny Wales ben3_rw@... [FlaxSeedOil2] <FlaxSeedOil2@...> wrote:

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Hi Sandra,

I just started for about a month on BP, to my wife. (She got ovarium cancer that has spread to her neck lymph nodes, been biopsied thus we know she got this disease)

Although processed food with no made salt (only himalayan salt) n sugar still eaten by her.

My question would be, she is being coughing up like a thick muccus, and been going on for days now.

She looks tired, is there any way to stop the coughing,? Alrhough i did believe this is part of her detoxing her body. As it did stop when we first start the BP. Now it came again. Maybe i did something wrong?.

Her lymph node that swolen on the left neck did shrink visually, however other lymp nodes onher ?right breast and armpits were new.

My routine daily to her as below :

Morning : warm pure water ph7.8 -9, then ACV, FOCC, Tahitian noni juice, green juice organic

Sit under the morning sun, while FO topical on her skin, then bath with epsom salt and baking soda mixture.

Lunch : process food like organic rice n vegetables sometimes with fish and organic chicken/eggs, then FOCC, then carrot n beetroot juice

Dinner : FOCC, green juice with carrot n beet root, lastly Tahutian noni juice (maxidoid)

fruits (apple, papaya, etc) are mixed here and there in between

Kindly advice whether i'm doing the right thing or is there any that i need to add

Best Regards

Benny

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Hi Sive,

In Dr. Budwig's books, she wrote that it takes about 3 months to begin to achieve noticeable results. For some people, it happens before that time period; for others, it takes longer. It depends on how closely the person is following the total Budwig program every day, as well as how much stress is interfering with healing, and the extent of the cancer.?

On my website, you can read testimonials from members in this group who had success, even with terminal cancers. Use this link, scroll down the page to the testimonials and click on "Cancers."

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While on the site, click on ?the word, Fundamentals, at the top of the screen and read the daily Budwig plan.

Kind regards,

Sandra Olson

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Hello, If you can ask the most experienced or those who read directly the books written by Dr. Budwig. How long does it take to see the first results, meaning the stagnation or decrease of the tumors? And how long did you spend strictly on the Budwig diet, without a conclusive result, can you say that you do not go and give up trying to do something else?

From what I read to say it has notable results in all cases, but if it still does not have time to continue? In cancer, time is very precious.

On June 15, 2017 at 9:53 PM "Liz Shelley liz.choosewellbeing@... [FlaxSeedOil2]" <FlaxSeedOil2@...> wrote:

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Hi Joe

I have bladder cancer and take a capsule of 12 drops DoTerra frankincense oil each day as well as putting drops directly under my tongue. ?

My understanding is that frankincense is pretty much good for everything and doesn't conflict with anything but I can't point you to any studies to support that, only anecdotal as far as I know.

Thanks

Liz

On 16 Jun 2017, at 2:59 am, Joe Firestone eisai@... [FlaxSeedOil2] <FlaxSeedOil2@...> wrote:

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Hi Everyone,

Does anyone know whether Frankincense oil is compatible with the Budwig protocol?

Joe Firestone

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On June 15, 2017 at 1:22 PM "'Rod' holmgren@... [FlaxSeedOil2]" <FlaxSeedOil2@...> wrote:

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Sounds great, Joe.? Thanks for sharing!

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Rod in MN USA

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----- Original Message -----

From: Joe Firestone eisai@... [FlaxSeedOil2]

To: FlaxSeedOil2@...

Sent: Thursday, June 15, 2017 11:46 AM

Subject: [FlaxSeedOil2] Update - Prostate cancer

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Hello Sandra and Everyone,

Perhaps it's time for update. As I've said in previous emails my wife, Bonnie, and I began the Budwig diet on February 15 of this year. Bonnie is a breast cancer survivor, who received surgery and chemo therapy and has now been clear for roughly four years. She decided to begin Budwig for preventive reasons and to make things easier for me.

I received a diagnosis of non-metastatic Gleason 8 prostate cancer just short of 5 years ago and decided then to continue taking finasteride for BPH and using supplements and dietary changes to hold back my cancer. Last fall my PSA began to spike and after it reached 27.96, I decided to make a change and begin the Budwig protocol. I also decided to also use bicalutamide (Casodex), and dutasteride (Avodart), as well, and began those drugs on March 1, after tests showing that I was still non-metastatic.

To get prescriptions for the two?drugs, I had to fight with my Kaiser Doctors, who want to use Lupron depot in cases like mine. In the end however, I persuaded them to go along with my choices by citing research on both positive results and differences in side effects and just insisting that I would not take Lupron. I have not shared my choice to pursue Budwig, as well as my pharmaceutical choices with my doctors.

I'm tracking the results of my combined Budwig/pharma treatment with monthly PSA tests. Here are my results:

2/3/17 -- 27.96

3/3/17 -- 17.72

4/03/17 -- 4.67

5/03/17 -- 3.11

6/05/17 -- 2.60

You can see that my PSA has been falling substantially, but that the rate of deceleration in decline of the PSA has been slowing as time passes. At first, I thought that the substantial decline from February 3, to March 3, must have been at least partly due to Budwig, but I now think it was too early for Budwig to have been due to an immediate impact of bicalutamide, because its impact is said to be greatest at the start and I think a decline of 1/3 in the PSA is probably possible after 2 days of taking that drug, considering that the next decline was one of about 80 % over 31 days.

One of the differences between Lupron therapy and bicalutamide therapy is that Lupron will generally reduce PSA to a fraction of 1, perhaps as low as 0.1, whereas, bicalutamide will only lower it to perhaps 2 or so, but rarely lower. So, thus far, I think my results fit the bicalutamide pattern and that I can't distinguish, though neither can I rule out, a definite impact from the Budwig protocol.

Looking at the future however, I think that if my PSA results continue to fall, and as time passes they keep ?declining, then I will be able to say that likely Budwig worked, because my PSA results were incompatible with knowledge about how bicalutamide works.

Apart, from the above, I also want to say that Bonnie and I intend to continue following Budwig for good. We've adapted to the FO/CC well and we believe our health is better in general since we've started the diet. So, at this point we're very happy with Budwig and would recommend it to others.

I also want to say that I think this a wonderful yahoo group, and I greatly appreciate the very good information, encouragement and emotional support created here every day. So, thanks to everyone for your good will and contributions and special thanks to Sandra Olson, Denise Newkirk, and Dana Mills, for leading the way in setting the tone and being so generous in their sharing so much with the group.

Warm Feelings and Great Hopes for All of Us,

Joe Firestone

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Virus-free.

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On June 15, 2017 at 1:14 PM "Sona Rostomyan sona_rostomyan@... [FlaxSeedOil2]" <FlaxSeedOil2@...> wrote:

----- Original Message -----

From: Joe Firestone eisai@... [FlaxSeedOil2]

To: FlaxSeedOil2@...

Sent: Thursday, June 15, 2017 11:46 AM

Subject: [FlaxSeedOil2] Update - Prostate cancer

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Hello Sandra and Everyone,

Perhaps it's time for update. As I've said in previous emails my wife, Bonnie, and I began the Budwig diet on February 15 of this year. Bonnie is a breast cancer survivor, who received surgery and chemo therapy and has now been clear for roughly four years. She decided to begin Budwig for preventive reasons and to make things easier for me.

I received a diagnosis of non-metastatic Gleason 8 prostate cancer just short of 5 years ago and decided then to continue taking finasteride for BPH and using supplements and dietary changes to hold back my cancer. Last fall my PSA began to spike and after it reached 27.96, I decided to make a change and begin the Budwig protocol. I also decided to also use bicalutamide (Casodex), and dutasteride (Avodart), as well, and began those drugs on March 1, after tests showing that I was still non-metastatic.

To get prescriptions for the two?drugs, I had to fight with my Kaiser Doctors, who want to use Lupron depot in cases like mine. In the end however, I persuaded them to go along with my choices by citing research on both positive results and differences in side effects and just insisting that I would not take Lupron. I have not shared my choice to pursue Budwig, as well as my pharmaceutical choices with my doctors.

I'm tracking the results of my combined Budwig/pharma treatment with monthly PSA tests. Here are my results:

2/3/17 -- 27.96

3/3/17 -- 17.72

4/03/17 -- 4.67

5/03/17 -- 3.11

6/05/17 -- 2.60

You can see that my PSA has been falling substantially, but that the rate of deceleration in decline of the PSA has been slowing as time passes. At first, I thought that the substantial decline from February 3, to March 3, must have been at least partly due to Budwig, but I now think it was too early for Budwig to have been due to an immediate impact of bicalutamide, because its impact is said to be greatest at the start and I think a decline of 1/3 in the PSA is probably possible after 2 days of taking that drug, considering that the next decline was one of about 80 % over 31 days.

One of the differences between Lupron therapy and bicalutamide therapy is that Lupron will generally reduce PSA to a fraction of 1, perhaps as low as 0.1, whereas, bicalutamide will only lower it to perhaps 2 or so, but rarely lower. So, thus far, I think my results fit the bicalutamide pattern and that I can't distinguish, though neither can I rule out, a definite impact from the Budwig protocol.

Looking at the future however, I think that if my PSA results continue to fall, and as time passes they keep ?declining, then I will be able to say that likely Budwig worked, because my PSA results were incompatible with knowledge about how bicalutamide works.

Apart, from the above, I also want to say that Bonnie and I intend to continue following Budwig for good. We've adapted to the FO/CC well and we believe our health is better in general since we've started the diet. So, at this point we're very happy with Budwig and would recommend it to others.

I also want to say that I think this a wonderful yahoo group, and I greatly appreciate the very good information, encouragement and emotional support created here every day. So, thanks to everyone for your good will and contributions and special thanks to Sandra Olson, Denise Newkirk, and Dana Mills, for leading the way in setting the tone and being so generous in their sharing so much with the group.

Warm Feelings and Great Hopes for All of Us,

Joe Firestone

Virus-free.

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Hi Joe,?

Thank you for the update! Congratulations to you and Bonnie for your success in dealing with cancer! ?I'm so pleased that you're enjoying and contributing to this group.?

Best wishes to you both as you continue your journey,

Sandra?

---In FlaxSeedOil2@..., <eisai@...> wrote :

Hello Sandra and Everyone,

Perhaps it's time for update. As I've said in previous emails my wife, Bonnie, and I began the Budwig diet on February 15 of this year. Bonnie is a breast cancer survivor, who received surgery and chemo therapy and has now been clear for roughly four years. She decided to begin Budwig for preventive reasons and to make things easier for me.

I received a diagnosis of non-metastatic Gleason 8 prostate cancer just short of 5 years ago and decided then to continue taking finasteride for BPH and using supplements and dietary changes to hold back my cancer. Last fall my PSA began to spike and after it reached 27.96, I decided to make a change and begin the Budwig protocol. I also decided to also use bicalutamide (Casodex), and dutasteride (Avodart), as well, and began those drugs on March 1, after tests showing that I was still non-metastatic.

To get prescriptions for the two?drugs, I had to fight with my Kaiser Doctors, who want to use Lupron depot in cases like mine. In the end however, I persuaded them to go along with my choices by citing research on both positive results and differences in side effects and just insisting that I would not take Lupron. I have not shared my choice to pursue Budwig, as well as my pharmaceutical choices with my doctors.

I'm tracking the results of my combined Budwig/pharma treatment with monthly PSA tests. Here are my results:

2/3/17 -- 27.96

3/3/17 -- 17.72

4/03/17 -- 4.67

5/03/17 -- 3.11

6/05/17 -- 2.60

You can see that my PSA has been falling substantially, but that the rate of deceleration in decline of the PSA has been slowing as time passes. At first, I thought that the substantial decline from February 3, to March 3, must have been at least partly due to Budwig, but I now think it was too early for Budwig to have been due to an immediate impact of bicalutamide, because its impact is said to be greatest at the start and I think a decline of 1/3 in the PSA is probably possible after 2 days of taking that drug, considering that the next decline was one of about 80 % over 31 days.

One of the differences between Lupron therapy and bicalutamide therapy is that Lupron will generally reduce PSA to a fraction of 1, perhaps as low as 0.1, whereas, bicalutamide will only lower it to perhaps 2 or so, but rarely lower. So, thus far, I think my results fit the bicalutamide pattern and that I can't distinguish, though neither can I rule out, a definite impact from the Budwig protocol.

Looking at the future however, I think that if my PSA results continue to fall, and as time passes they keep ?declining, then I will be able to say that likely Budwig worked, because my PSA results were incompatible with knowledge about how bicalutamide works.

Apart, from the above, I also want to say that Bonnie and I intend to continue following Budwig for good. We've adapted to the FO/CC well and we believe our health is better in general since we've started the diet. So, at this point we're very happy with Budwig and would recommend it to others.

I also want to say that I think this a wonderful yahoo group, and I greatly appreciate the very good information, encouragement and emotional support created here every day. So, thanks to everyone for your good will and contributions and special thanks to Sandra Olson, Denise Newkirk, and Dana Mills, for leading the way in setting the tone and being so generous in their sharing so much with the group.

Warm Feelings and Great Hopes for All of Us,

Joe Firestone

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Thanks Julian,

I will certainly suggest this to my Brother in Law..?

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Deepak Gupta

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On Monday, 12 June 2017 4:42 PM, "j.braggins@... [FlaxSeedOil2]" <FlaxSeedOil2@...> wrote:

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Hi Deepak Gupta,

Around the same time I started on the Budwig diet some 5 years ago I had a very painful psoriasis on my hands and forearms that came on suddenly. Previous to that I had been on the Paw Paw tablets for 18 months but they no longer controlled my PSA levels.
After trying various remedies, coconut oil, vinegar (ouch!) pawpaw fermented ointment, Thuja ointment which gave limited relief I went Gluten Free which has fixed the problem.

Going Gluten Free also worked for a step grand-daughter who had had psoriasis for most of her 25 years. There may be many causes of psoriasis so it possibly won't work for everyone but it is a simple solution to try for a few weeks.? Being on the Budwig? Diet did nothing to help the skin problem, and if I try something to test if I still need to be gluten free a rash starts.

I hope this works for your brother-in-law,???

Julian, with regards too.

Please help? : Is Budwig good for Psoriasis patients.

Sun Jun 11, 2017 10:14 am (PDT) . Posted by:
"Deepak Gupta" dg_vin

Dear All,
My brother in law is suffering from severe psoriasis and i am looking for your valuable inputs for the same.
I have been following Budwig protocol for last 3 years first for my mother and after that for myself.

I know very well about effectiveness of this protocol for Cancer and that's why i thought it may be beneficial for Psoriasis also.
Please share your views and also share some other pathy if known to you for Psoriasis patients..
Dear Sandra please share any success story if any in our group folder about Psoriasis Patients.

Thanks Regards.
Deepak Gupta