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Re: Champagne

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Dear Sandra,

I have a question for BP. For the champagne with flaxseed, what kind of champagne should I use? I worry about the sugar or other things contained in the champagne feeding cancer cell. Can I use sugar free ginger sodar insdead?

Thank you.

Best Regards,
Wu Jiang



MRI after 6 months looks great :)

 

Hello everyone,


I just wanted to share my expierience with the Budwig diet. I have had diagnosed brain tumor stage 3 (oligodendroglioma) on the 10.10.2016. I have had a surgery where they were able to cut out the whole tumor. I had 6 months of chemotherapy pills prescribed. MRI on the 08.02.2017 has shown that there is nothing to be treated with radiotherapy and that the tumor in fact had disappeard.
The second MRI was on 13.06.2017 and it has shown that the tumor had completely dissapeared and that in fact the scar from the operation is getting smaller :)))

So I am saying to everyone who wants to listen about this diet :) I know you are all on this page becouse you are doing the protocol and I have to say it is hard, but not impossible. So what I want to say is keep calm, have patience and continue doing it. I know I will :))

Best wishes,

Kristina



Re: question

Benny Wales
 

Shalom rahel
Thanks a lot for the inputs

What i mean processed food are home made cooking. Yes cooked food.

Will find on the 15 key points thing then..

Noted on garlic

I see, so best to bath first then the oil, so Eldi oil is both of those focc n wheat germ mixture. I didnt know. Thanks a lot for this.

Oh yes i used also ground flaxseed to the FOCC mixture, although its not cottage cheese, as i use local organic quark and barleans FO.

Yes i use naural raw honey too for her
On sauerkraut juice i have not made it yet, will yoghurt fine for now?

I thought fresh fish, organic egg n chicken were fine, ok will delete them on the menu.

Will concot japanese green tea then..

Noted and will delete on evening FOCC

Thanks a lot for the advice and inputs

God Bless
Benny





On Friday, June 16, 2017, 4:06 PM, Rahel Warshaw-Dadon joy.forward@... [FlaxSeedOil2] <FlaxSeedOil2@...> wrote:

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Shalom Benny,

Yes, it is possible that coughing up thick mucous is part of a detoxification process.? You can make this easier for your wife to cough it out by giving her lots of GARLIC - peel, grate it finely, allow to sit at room temperature for about 15 minutes, and then add it to food.? Personally, I prefer to eat my FOCC savory rather than sweet, so I would add the garlic to the FOCC. ?
Do not give garlic to your wife if she suffers from unusually low blood pressure.

As she does every two weeks, on 13 June, Sandra sent out "15 Key Points of Dr. Budwig's Plan".? I suggest that you find that post and read it carefully.

At first glance, your protocol for your wife sounds pretty good, but when read carefully, that are many points that should be changed.

I am not sure what you mean by "Although processed food with no made salt (only himalayan salt) n sugar still eaten by her." ?We usually refer to "processed food" as commercially processed food, I guess that you mean cooked food?? Himalayan salt is fine; and NO sugar is fine (is that what you meant?).

"Sit under the morning sun, while FO topical on her skin, then bath with epsom salt and baking soda mixture."
The bath sounds good, but do it before sitting in the sun.? Instead of FO on the skin, prepare ELDI oil = 75% FOCC + 25% wheat germ oil.? If you massage on the oil after the bath, the pores of the skin will be open (from the heat of the bath) and the oil will be better absorbed.? Also, good to have the ELDI oil on the skin when sun bathing.? Look in the Forum Files for more instructions regarding ELDI oils.

"Lunch : process food like organic rice n vegetables sometimes with fish and organic chicken/eggs, then FOCC, then carrot n beetroot juice
Dinner : FOCC, green juice with carrot n beet root, lastly Tahutian noni juice (maxidoid)"

Fish, chicken, and eggs are NOT allowed on the Budwig Diet. ?
You have not mentioned ground flax seeds, which are required.
You have not mentioned juiced sauerkraut (best home made).
You have not mentioned green tea, or honey, both of which are recommended.
You serve FOCC at midday and in the evening.? It is recommended to have it in the morning and at midday.

All this and more in Sandra's 15 Key Points.

Check it carefully?

Rahel
Jerusalem





On Fri, Jun 16, 2017 at 9:06 AM, Benny Wales ben3_rw@... [FlaxSeedOil2] <FlaxSeedOil2@...> wrote:
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Hi Sandra,

I just started for about a month on BP, to my wife. (She got ovarium cancer that has spread to her neck lymph nodes, been biopsied thus we know she got this disease)

Although processed food with no made salt (only himalayan salt) n sugar still eaten by her.

My question would be, she is being coughing up like a thick muccus, and been going on for days now.

She looks tired, is there any way to stop the coughing,? Alrhough i did believe this is part of her detoxing her body. As it did stop when we first start the BP. Now it came again. Maybe i did something wrong?.

Her lymph node that swolen on the left neck did shrink visually, however other lymp nodes onher ?right breast and armpits were new.

My routine daily to her as below :
Morning : warm pure water ph7.8 -9, then ACV, FOCC, Tahitian noni juice, green juice organic
Sit under the morning sun, while FO topical on her skin, then bath with epsom salt and baking soda mixture.

Lunch : process food like organic rice n vegetables sometimes with fish and organic chicken/eggs, then FOCC, then carrot n beetroot juice
Dinner : FOCC, green juice with carrot n beet root, lastly Tahutian noni juice (maxidoid)

fruits (apple, papaya, etc) are mixed here and there in between

Kindly advice whether i'm doing the right thing or is there any that i need to add

Best Regards
Benny





Re: question

 

Shalom Benny,

Yes, it is possible that coughing up thick mucous is part of a detoxification process.? You can make this easier for your wife to cough it out by giving her lots of GARLIC - peel, grate it finely, allow to sit at room temperature for about 15 minutes, and then add it to food.? Personally, I prefer to eat my FOCC savory rather than sweet, so I would add the garlic to the FOCC. ?
Do not give garlic to your wife if she suffers from unusually low blood pressure.

As she does every two weeks, on 13 June, Sandra sent out "15 Key Points of Dr. Budwig's Plan".? I suggest that you find that post and read it carefully.

At first glance, your protocol for your wife sounds pretty good, but when read carefully, that are many points that should be changed.

I am not sure what you mean by "Although processed food with no made salt (only himalayan salt) n sugar still eaten by her." ?We usually refer to "processed food" as commercially processed food, I guess that you mean cooked food?? Himalayan salt is fine; and NO sugar is fine (is that what you meant?).

"Sit under the morning sun, while FO topical on her skin, then bath with epsom salt and baking soda mixture."
The bath sounds good, but do it before sitting in the sun.? Instead of FO on the skin, prepare ELDI oil = 75% FOCC + 25% wheat germ oil.? If you massage on the oil after the bath, the pores of the skin will be open (from the heat of the bath) and the oil will be better absorbed.? Also, good to have the ELDI oil on the skin when sun bathing.? Look in the Forum Files for more instructions regarding ELDI oils.

"Lunch : process food like organic rice n vegetables sometimes with fish and organic chicken/eggs, then FOCC, then carrot n beetroot juice
Dinner : FOCC, green juice with carrot n beet root, lastly Tahutian noni juice (maxidoid)"

Fish, chicken, and eggs are NOT allowed on the Budwig Diet. ?
You have not mentioned ground flax seeds, which are required.
You have not mentioned juiced sauerkraut (best home made).
You have not mentioned green tea, or honey, both of which are recommended.
You serve FOCC at midday and in the evening.? It is recommended to have it in the morning and at midday.

All this and more in Sandra's 15 Key Points.

Check it carefully?

Rahel
Jerusalem





On Fri, Jun 16, 2017 at 9:06 AM, Benny Wales ben3_rw@... [FlaxSeedOil2] <FlaxSeedOil2@...> wrote:
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Hi Sandra,

I just started for about a month on BP, to my wife. (She got ovarium cancer that has spread to her neck lymph nodes, been biopsied thus we know she got this disease)

Although processed food with no made salt (only himalayan salt) n sugar still eaten by her.

My question would be, she is being coughing up like a thick muccus, and been going on for days now.

She looks tired, is there any way to stop the coughing,? Alrhough i did believe this is part of her detoxing her body. As it did stop when we first start the BP. Now it came again. Maybe i did something wrong?.

Her lymph node that swolen on the left neck did shrink visually, however other lymp nodes onher ?right breast and armpits were new.

My routine daily to her as below :
Morning : warm pure water ph7.8 -9, then ACV, FOCC, Tahitian noni juice, green juice organic
Sit under the morning sun, while FO topical on her skin, then bath with epsom salt and baking soda mixture.

Lunch : process food like organic rice n vegetables sometimes with fish and organic chicken/eggs, then FOCC, then carrot n beetroot juice
Dinner : FOCC, green juice with carrot n beet root, lastly Tahutian noni juice (maxidoid)

fruits (apple, papaya, etc) are mixed here and there in between

Kindly advice whether i'm doing the right thing or is there any that i need to add

Best Regards
Benny





Re: question

Benny Wales
 

Hi Sandra,

I just started for about a month on BP, to my wife. (She got ovarium cancer that has spread to her neck lymph nodes, been biopsied thus we know she got this disease)

Although processed food with no made salt (only himalayan salt) n sugar still eaten by her.

My question would be, she is being coughing up like a thick muccus, and been going on for days now.

She looks tired, is there any way to stop the coughing,? Alrhough i did believe this is part of her detoxing her body. As it did stop when we first start the BP. Now it came again. Maybe i did something wrong?.

Her lymph node that swolen on the left neck did shrink visually, however other lymp nodes onher ?right breast and armpits were new.

My routine daily to her as below :
Morning : warm pure water ph7.8 -9, then ACV, FOCC, Tahitian noni juice, green juice organic
Sit under the morning sun, while FO topical on her skin, then bath with epsom salt and baking soda mixture.

Lunch : process food like organic rice n vegetables sometimes with fish and organic chicken/eggs, then FOCC, then carrot n beetroot juice
Dinner : FOCC, green juice with carrot n beet root, lastly Tahutian noni juice (maxidoid)

fruits (apple, papaya, etc) are mixed here and there in between

Kindly advice whether i'm doing the right thing or is there any that i need to add

Best Regards
Benny




On Wednesday, June 14, 2017, 1:30 AM, sanols02@... [FlaxSeedOil2] wrote:

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Hi Sive,


In Dr. Budwig's books, she wrote that it takes about 3 months to begin to achieve noticeable results. For some people, it happens before that time period; for others, it takes longer. It depends on how closely the person is following the total Budwig program every day, as well as how much stress is interfering with healing, and the extent of the cancer.?

On my website, you can read testimonials from members in this group who had success, even with terminal cancers. Use this link, scroll down the page to the testimonials and click on "Cancers."
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While on the site, click on ?the word, Fundamentals, at the top of the screen and read the daily Budwig plan.

Kind regards,
Sandra Olson


---In FlaxSeedOil2@..., wrote :

Hello, If you can ask the most experienced or those who read directly the books written by Dr. Budwig. How long does it take to see the first results, meaning the stagnation or decrease of the tumors? And how long did you spend strictly on the Budwig diet, without a conclusive result, can you say that you do not go and give up trying to do something else?
From what I read to say it has notable results in all cases, but if it still does not have time to continue? In cancer, time is very precious.


Re: Frankincense oil

 

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My friend had stage 4 bladder, he did macrobiotic and had any nodules or bad areas removed with surgery. He also spent thousands on biological doctor. Pretty much takes his new teeth out at night. They found pockets of puss and infection not seen on regular dentist crags. He thinks cured it. He was given 3 months to live. He's kicking it still here years later.



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-------- Original message --------
From: "Liz Shelley liz.choosewellbeing@... [FlaxSeedOil2]" <FlaxSeedOil2@...>
Date: 6/15/17 6:53 PM (GMT-08:00)
To: FlaxSeedOil2@...
Subject: Re: [FlaxSeedOil2] Frankincense oil

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Hi Joe

I have bladder cancer and take a capsule of 12 drops DoTerra frankincense oil each day as well as putting drops directly under my tongue. ?
My understanding is that frankincense is pretty much good for everything and doesn't conflict with anything but I can't point you to any studies to support that, only anecdotal as far as I know.

Thanks
Liz

On 16 Jun 2017, at 2:59 am, Joe Firestone eisai@... [FlaxSeedOil2] <FlaxSeedOil2@...> wrote:

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Hi Everyone,


Does anyone know whether Frankincense oil is compatible with the Budwig protocol?


Joe Firestone


Re: Papaya

Barbara Good
 

For eyes look up?Lutein/zeaxanthin and Serrapeptase
All the best,
Barbara


From: "'islandsky' islandsky2@... [FlaxSeedOil2]"
To: FlaxSeedOil2@...
Sent: Tuesday, June 13, 2017 4:00 PM
Subject: [FlaxSeedOil2] Papaya

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Does anyone know about the Papaya I purchase at the Midwest grocery store.? It is orange and has the meat sticking to the disklike seed where a bulb is at one end while a doncave shaped(2x3 inch seed ?end on the opposite end..
The reason is I am trying to keep my vision from waning away into full blindness.??? I hear Papya and Avacados are good for the eyes.? Does it matter what kind of papaya??? I find hemp oil is expensive. But does anyone know or experienced hemp oil as being helpful for the eyes as well as hearing?? I am learning about controlling mucous which will help my hearing as a first step and then do the next protocols.? My eyes are a concern.? I have lived on borrowed time since 1994 when my hearing went dead and my vision was tunneling toward total blindness.? It took six months to recover while losing a fraction of both after I stopped listening to music for two weeks.? That really cut my social activity by 90 %.? Back in 1994 I used music and sat next to a Boombox and played spiritual music without even hearing it.? For some mysterious reason they both came back.??? I hope there is another another way while I listen to music.? I know ?what it is like while good vision and good hearing is taken for granted. It takes the smile right out of your life when you lose one or both.?
Mike



Re: Frankincense oil

 

Thank you, Liz.


I appreciate your reply.


Joe

On June 15, 2017 at 9:53 PM "Liz Shelley liz.choosewellbeing@... [FlaxSeedOil2]" <FlaxSeedOil2@...> wrote:

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?

Hi Joe

I have bladder cancer and take a capsule of 12 drops DoTerra frankincense oil each day as well as putting drops directly under my tongue. ?
My understanding is that frankincense is pretty much good for everything and doesn't conflict with anything but I can't point you to any studies to support that, only anecdotal as far as I know.

Thanks
Liz

On 16 Jun 2017, at 2:59 am, Joe Firestone eisai@... [FlaxSeedOil2] <FlaxSeedOil2@...> wrote:

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?

Hi Everyone,


Does anyone know whether Frankincense oil is compatible with the Budwig protocol?


Joe Firestone

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Re: Frankincense oil

Liz Shelley
 

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Hi Joe

I have bladder cancer and take a capsule of 12 drops DoTerra frankincense oil each day as well as putting drops directly under my tongue. ?
My understanding is that frankincense is pretty much good for everything and doesn't conflict with anything but I can't point you to any studies to support that, only anecdotal as far as I know.

Thanks
Liz

On 16 Jun 2017, at 2:59 am, Joe Firestone eisai@... [FlaxSeedOil2] <FlaxSeedOil2@...> wrote:

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Hi Everyone,


Does anyone know whether Frankincense oil is compatible with the Budwig protocol?


Joe Firestone


Re: Update - Prostate cancer

 

Sure, Rod!


I'll keep updating.


Joe

On June 15, 2017 at 1:22 PM "'Rod' holmgren@... [FlaxSeedOil2]" <FlaxSeedOil2@...> wrote:

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Sounds great, Joe.? Thanks for sharing!
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Rod in MN USA
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----- Original Message -----
Sent: Thursday, June 15, 2017 11:46 AM
Subject: [FlaxSeedOil2] Update - Prostate cancer

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Hello Sandra and Everyone,


Perhaps it's time for update. As I've said in previous emails my wife, Bonnie, and I began the Budwig diet on February 15 of this year. Bonnie is a breast cancer survivor, who received surgery and chemo therapy and has now been clear for roughly four years. She decided to begin Budwig for preventive reasons and to make things easier for me.


I received a diagnosis of non-metastatic Gleason 8 prostate cancer just short of 5 years ago and decided then to continue taking finasteride for BPH and using supplements and dietary changes to hold back my cancer. Last fall my PSA began to spike and after it reached 27.96, I decided to make a change and begin the Budwig protocol. I also decided to also use bicalutamide (Casodex), and dutasteride (Avodart), as well, and began those drugs on March 1, after tests showing that I was still non-metastatic.


To get prescriptions for the two?drugs, I had to fight with my Kaiser Doctors, who want to use Lupron depot in cases like mine. In the end however, I persuaded them to go along with my choices by citing research on both positive results and differences in side effects and just insisting that I would not take Lupron. I have not shared my choice to pursue Budwig, as well as my pharmaceutical choices with my doctors.


I'm tracking the results of my combined Budwig/pharma treatment with monthly PSA tests. Here are my results:


2/3/17 -- 27.96

3/3/17 -- 17.72

4/03/17 -- 4.67

5/03/17 -- 3.11

6/05/17 -- 2.60


You can see that my PSA has been falling substantially, but that the rate of deceleration in decline of the PSA has been slowing as time passes. At first, I thought that the substantial decline from February 3, to March 3, must have been at least partly due to Budwig, but I now think it was too early for Budwig to have been due to an immediate impact of bicalutamide, because its impact is said to be greatest at the start and I think a decline of 1/3 in the PSA is probably possible after 2 days of taking that drug, considering that the next decline was one of about 80 % over 31 days.


One of the differences between Lupron therapy and bicalutamide therapy is that Lupron will generally reduce PSA to a fraction of 1, perhaps as low as 0.1, whereas, bicalutamide will only lower it to perhaps 2 or so, but rarely lower. So, thus far, I think my results fit the bicalutamide pattern and that I can't distinguish, though neither can I rule out, a definite impact from the Budwig protocol.


Looking at the future however, I think that if my PSA results continue to fall, and as time passes they keep ?declining, then I will be able to say that likely Budwig worked, because my PSA results were incompatible with knowledge about how bicalutamide works.


Apart, from the above, I also want to say that Bonnie and I intend to continue following Budwig for good. We've adapted to the FO/CC well and we believe our health is better in general since we've started the diet. So, at this point we're very happy with Budwig and would recommend it to others.


I also want to say that I think this a wonderful yahoo group, and I greatly appreciate the very good information, encouragement and emotional support created here every day. So, thanks to everyone for your good will and contributions and special thanks to Sandra Olson, Denise Newkirk, and Dana Mills, for leading the way in setting the tone and being so generous in their sharing so much with the group.


Warm Feelings and Great Hopes for All of Us,


Joe Firestone

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Virus-free.

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Re: Update - Prostate cancer

 

Thank you Sona.


Great study!!


Joe



On June 15, 2017 at 1:14 PM "Sona Rostomyan sona_rostomyan@... [FlaxSeedOil2]" <FlaxSeedOil2@...> wrote:


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Dear all,

A friend of mine shared this new study link with me and I would like you also to see:

It is always great to see the science proving things that Budwig had in her diet long ago.

I wish health to all!
Sona

On 15. Jun 2017, at 19:03, FlaxSeedOil2-owner@... wrote:

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Hi Joe,?


Thank you for the update! Congratulations to you and Bonnie for your success in dealing with cancer! ?I'm so pleased that you're enjoying and contributing to this group.?

Best wishes to you both as you continue your journey,

Sandra?


---In FlaxSeedOil2@..., <eisai@...> wrote :

Hello Sandra and Everyone,


Perhaps it's time for update. As I've said in previous emails my wife, Bonnie, and I began the Budwig diet on February 15 of this year. Bonnie is a breast cancer survivor, who received surgery and chemo therapy and has now been clear for roughly four years. She decided to begin Budwig for preventive reasons and to make things easier for me.


I received a diagnosis of non-metastatic Gleason 8 prostate cancer just short of 5 years ago and decided then to continue taking finasteride for BPH and using supplements and dietary changes to hold back my cancer. Last fall my PSA began to spike and after it reached 27.96, I decided to make a change and begin the Budwig protocol. I also decided to also use bicalutamide (Casodex), and dutasteride (Avodart), as well, and began those drugs on March 1, after tests showing that I was still non-metastatic.


To get prescriptions for the two?drugs, I had to fight with my Kaiser Doctors, who want to use Lupron depot in cases like mine. In the end however, I persuaded them to go along with my choices by citing research on both positive results and differences in side effects and just insisting that I would not take Lupron. I have not shared my choice to pursue Budwig, as well as my pharmaceutical choices with my doctors.


I'm tracking the results of my combined Budwig/pharma treatment with monthly PSA tests. Here are my results:


2/3/17 -- 27.96

3/3/17 -- 17.72

4/03/17 -- 4.67

5/03/17 -- 3.11

6/05/17 -- 2.60


You can see that my PSA has been falling substantially, but that the rate of deceleration in decline of the PSA has been slowing as time passes. At first, I thought that the substantial decline from February 3, to March 3, must have been at least partly due to Budwig, but I now think it was too early for Budwig to have been due to an immediate impact of bicalutamide, because its impact is said to be greatest at the start and I think a decline of 1/3 in the PSA is probably possible after 2 days of taking that drug, considering that the next decline was one of about 80 % over 31 days.


One of the differences between Lupron therapy and bicalutamide therapy is that Lupron will generally reduce PSA to a fraction of 1, perhaps as low as 0.1, whereas, bicalutamide will only lower it to perhaps 2 or so, but rarely lower. So, thus far, I think my results fit the bicalutamide pattern and that I can't distinguish, though neither can I rule out, a definite impact from the Budwig protocol.


Looking at the future however, I think that if my PSA results continue to fall, and as time passes they keep ?declining, then I will be able to say that likely Budwig worked, because my PSA results were incompatible with knowledge about how bicalutamide works.


Apart, from the above, I also want to say that Bonnie and I intend to continue following Budwig for good. We've adapted to the FO/CC well and we believe our health is better in general since we've started the diet. So, at this point we're very happy with Budwig and would recommend it to others.


I also want to say that I think this a wonderful yahoo group, and I greatly appreciate the very good information, encouragement and emotional support created here every day. So, thanks to everyone for your good will and contributions and special thanks to Sandra Olson, Denise Newkirk, and Dana Mills, for leading the way in setting the tone and being so generous in their sharing so much with the group.


Warm Feelings and Great Hopes for All of Us,


Joe Firestone

?

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Re: Update - Prostate cancer

Denise Newkirk
 

Dear Joe,

Thank you very much for taking the time to give such a detailed update and I rejoice for your progress!?

Best wishes to you,
Denise

On Thu, Jun 15, 2017 at 9:46 AM, Joe Firestone eisai@... [FlaxSeedOil2] <FlaxSeedOil2@...> wrote:
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Hello Sandra and Everyone,


Perhaps it's time for update. As I've said in previous emails my wife, Bonnie, and I began the Budwig diet on February 15 of this year. Bonnie is a breast cancer survivor, who received surgery and chemo therapy and has now been clear for roughly four years. She decided to begin Budwig for preventive reasons and to make things easier for me.


I received a diagnosis of non-metastatic Gleason 8 prostate cancer just short of 5 years ago and decided then to continue taking finasteride for BPH and using supplements and dietary changes to hold back my cancer. Last fall my PSA began to spike and after it reached 27.96, I decided to make a change and begin the Budwig protocol. I also decided to also use bicalutamide (Casodex), and dutasteride (Avodart), as well, and began those drugs on March 1, after tests showing that I was still non-metastatic.


To get prescriptions for the two?drugs, I had to fight with my Kaiser Doctors, who want to use Lupron depot in cases like mine. In the end however, I persuaded them to go along with my choices by citing research on both positive results and differences in side effects and just insisting that I would not take Lupron. I have not shared my choice to pursue Budwig, as well as my pharmaceutical choices with my doctors.


I'm tracking the results of my combined Budwig/pharma treatment with monthly PSA tests. Here are my results:


2/3/17 -- 27.96

3/3/17 -- 17.72

4/03/17 -- 4.67

5/03/17 -- 3.11

6/05/17 -- 2.60


You can see that my PSA has been falling substantially, but that the rate of deceleration in decline of the PSA has been slowing as time passes. At first, I thought that the substantial decline from February 3, to March 3, must have been at least partly due to Budwig, but I now think it was too early for Budwig to have been due to an immediate impact of bicalutamide, because its impact is said to be greatest at the start and I think a decline of 1/3 in the PSA is probably possible after 2 days of taking that drug, considering that the next decline was one of about 80 % over 31 days.


One of the differences between Lupron therapy and bicalutamide therapy is that Lupron will generally reduce PSA to a fraction of 1, perhaps as low as 0.1, whereas, bicalutamide will only lower it to perhaps 2 or so, but rarely lower. So, thus far, I think my results fit the bicalutamide pattern and that I can't distinguish, though neither can I rule out, a definite impact from the Budwig protocol.


Looking at the future however, I think that if my PSA results continue to fall, and as time passes they keep ?declining, then I will be able to say that likely Budwig worked, because my PSA results were incompatible with knowledge about how bicalutamide works.


Apart, from the above, I also want to say that Bonnie and I intend to continue following Budwig for good. We've adapted to the FO/CC well and we believe our health is better in general since we've started the diet. So, at this point we're very happy with Budwig and would recommend it to others.


I also want to say that I think this a wonderful yahoo group, and I greatly appreciate the very good information, encouragement and emotional support created here every day. So, thanks to everyone for your good will and contributions and special thanks to Sandra Olson, Denise Newkirk, and Dana Mills, for leading the way in setting the tone and being so generous in their sharing so much with the group.


Warm Feelings and Great Hopes for All of Us,


Joe Firestone




Re: Update - Prostate cancer

Rod
 

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Sounds great, Joe.? Thanks for sharing!
?
Rod in MN USA
?

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Thursday, June 15, 2017 11:46 AM
Subject: [FlaxSeedOil2] Update - Prostate cancer

?

Hello Sandra and Everyone,


Perhaps it's time for update. As I've said in previous emails my wife, Bonnie, and I began the Budwig diet on February 15 of this year. Bonnie is a breast cancer survivor, who received surgery and chemo therapy and has now been clear for roughly four years. She decided to begin Budwig for preventive reasons and to make things easier for me.


I received a diagnosis of non-metastatic Gleason 8 prostate cancer just short of 5 years ago and decided then to continue taking finasteride for BPH and using supplements and dietary changes to hold back my cancer. Last fall my PSA began to spike and after it reached 27.96, I decided to make a change and begin the Budwig protocol. I also decided to also use bicalutamide (Casodex), and dutasteride (Avodart), as well, and began those drugs on March 1, after tests showing that I was still non-metastatic.


To get prescriptions for the two?drugs, I had to fight with my Kaiser Doctors, who want to use Lupron depot in cases like mine. In the end however, I persuaded them to go along with my choices by citing research on both positive results and differences in side effects and just insisting that I would not take Lupron. I have not shared my choice to pursue Budwig, as well as my pharmaceutical choices with my doctors.


I'm tracking the results of my combined Budwig/pharma treatment with monthly PSA tests. Here are my results:


2/3/17 -- 27.96

3/3/17 -- 17.72

4/03/17 -- 4.67

5/03/17 -- 3.11

6/05/17 -- 2.60


You can see that my PSA has been falling substantially, but that the rate of deceleration in decline of the PSA has been slowing as time passes. At first, I thought that the substantial decline from February 3, to March 3, must have been at least partly due to Budwig, but I now think it was too early for Budwig to have been due to an immediate impact of bicalutamide, because its impact is said to be greatest at the start and I think a decline of 1/3 in the PSA is probably possible after 2 days of taking that drug, considering that the next decline was one of about 80 % over 31 days.


One of the differences between Lupron therapy and bicalutamide therapy is that Lupron will generally reduce PSA to a fraction of 1, perhaps as low as 0.1, whereas, bicalutamide will only lower it to perhaps 2 or so, but rarely lower. So, thus far, I think my results fit the bicalutamide pattern and that I can't distinguish, though neither can I rule out, a definite impact from the Budwig protocol.


Looking at the future however, I think that if my PSA results continue to fall, and as time passes they keep ?declining, then I will be able to say that likely Budwig worked, because my PSA results were incompatible with knowledge about how bicalutamide works.


Apart, from the above, I also want to say that Bonnie and I intend to continue following Budwig for good. We've adapted to the FO/CC well and we believe our health is better in general since we've started the diet. So, at this point we're very happy with Budwig and would recommend it to others.


I also want to say that I think this a wonderful yahoo group, and I greatly appreciate the very good information, encouragement and emotional support created here every day. So, thanks to everyone for your good will and contributions and special thanks to Sandra Olson, Denise Newkirk, and Dana Mills, for leading the way in setting the tone and being so generous in their sharing so much with the group.


Warm Feelings and Great Hopes for All of Us,


Joe Firestone


Virus-free.


Re: Update - Prostate cancer

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Dear all,

A friend of mine shared this new study link with me and I would like you also to see:

It is always great to see the science proving things that Budwig had in her diet long ago.

I wish health to all!
Sona

On 15. Jun 2017, at 19:03, FlaxSeedOil2-owner@... wrote:

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Hi Joe,?


Thank you for the update! Congratulations to you and Bonnie for your success in dealing with cancer! ?I'm so pleased that you're enjoying and contributing to this group.?

Best wishes to you both as you continue your journey,

Sandra?


---In FlaxSeedOil2@..., <eisai@...> wrote :

Hello Sandra and Everyone,


Perhaps it's time for update. As I've said in previous emails my wife, Bonnie, and I began the Budwig diet on February 15 of this year. Bonnie is a breast cancer survivor, who received surgery and chemo therapy and has now been clear for roughly four years. She decided to begin Budwig for preventive reasons and to make things easier for me.


I received a diagnosis of non-metastatic Gleason 8 prostate cancer just short of 5 years ago and decided then to continue taking finasteride for BPH and using supplements and dietary changes to hold back my cancer. Last fall my PSA began to spike and after it reached 27.96, I decided to make a change and begin the Budwig protocol. I also decided to also use bicalutamide (Casodex), and dutasteride (Avodart), as well, and began those drugs on March 1, after tests showing that I was still non-metastatic.


To get prescriptions for the two?drugs, I had to fight with my Kaiser Doctors, who want to use Lupron depot in cases like mine. In the end however, I persuaded them to go along with my choices by citing research on both positive results and differences in side effects and just insisting that I would not take Lupron. I have not shared my choice to pursue Budwig, as well as my pharmaceutical choices with my doctors.


I'm tracking the results of my combined Budwig/pharma treatment with monthly PSA tests. Here are my results:


2/3/17 -- 27.96

3/3/17 -- 17.72

4/03/17 -- 4.67

5/03/17 -- 3.11

6/05/17 -- 2.60


You can see that my PSA has been falling substantially, but that the rate of deceleration in decline of the PSA has been slowing as time passes. At first, I thought that the substantial decline from February 3, to March 3, must have been at least partly due to Budwig, but I now think it was too early for Budwig to have been due to an immediate impact of bicalutamide, because its impact is said to be greatest at the start and I think a decline of 1/3 in the PSA is probably possible after 2 days of taking that drug, considering that the next decline was one of about 80 % over 31 days.


One of the differences between Lupron therapy and bicalutamide therapy is that Lupron will generally reduce PSA to a fraction of 1, perhaps as low as 0.1, whereas, bicalutamide will only lower it to perhaps 2 or so, but rarely lower. So, thus far, I think my results fit the bicalutamide pattern and that I can't distinguish, though neither can I rule out, a definite impact from the Budwig protocol.


Looking at the future however, I think that if my PSA results continue to fall, and as time passes they keep ?declining, then I will be able to say that likely Budwig worked, because my PSA results were incompatible with knowledge about how bicalutamide works.


Apart, from the above, I also want to say that Bonnie and I intend to continue following Budwig for good. We've adapted to the FO/CC well and we believe our health is better in general since we've started the diet. So, at this point we're very happy with Budwig and would recommend it to others.


I also want to say that I think this a wonderful yahoo group, and I greatly appreciate the very good information, encouragement and emotional support created here every day. So, thanks to everyone for your good will and contributions and special thanks to Sandra Olson, Denise Newkirk, and Dana Mills, for leading the way in setting the tone and being so generous in their sharing so much with the group.


Warm Feelings and Great Hopes for All of Us,


Joe Firestone


Re: Update - Prostate cancer

 

Hi Joe,?

Thank you for the update! Congratulations to you and Bonnie for your success in dealing with cancer! ?I'm so pleased that you're enjoying and contributing to this group.?

Best wishes to you both as you continue your journey,

Sandra?


---In FlaxSeedOil2@..., <eisai@...> wrote :

Hello Sandra and Everyone,


Perhaps it's time for update. As I've said in previous emails my wife, Bonnie, and I began the Budwig diet on February 15 of this year. Bonnie is a breast cancer survivor, who received surgery and chemo therapy and has now been clear for roughly four years. She decided to begin Budwig for preventive reasons and to make things easier for me.


I received a diagnosis of non-metastatic Gleason 8 prostate cancer just short of 5 years ago and decided then to continue taking finasteride for BPH and using supplements and dietary changes to hold back my cancer. Last fall my PSA began to spike and after it reached 27.96, I decided to make a change and begin the Budwig protocol. I also decided to also use bicalutamide (Casodex), and dutasteride (Avodart), as well, and began those drugs on March 1, after tests showing that I was still non-metastatic.


To get prescriptions for the two?drugs, I had to fight with my Kaiser Doctors, who want to use Lupron depot in cases like mine. In the end however, I persuaded them to go along with my choices by citing research on both positive results and differences in side effects and just insisting that I would not take Lupron. I have not shared my choice to pursue Budwig, as well as my pharmaceutical choices with my doctors.


I'm tracking the results of my combined Budwig/pharma treatment with monthly PSA tests. Here are my results:


2/3/17 -- 27.96

3/3/17 -- 17.72

4/03/17 -- 4.67

5/03/17 -- 3.11

6/05/17 -- 2.60


You can see that my PSA has been falling substantially, but that the rate of deceleration in decline of the PSA has been slowing as time passes. At first, I thought that the substantial decline from February 3, to March 3, must have been at least partly due to Budwig, but I now think it was too early for Budwig to have been due to an immediate impact of bicalutamide, because its impact is said to be greatest at the start and I think a decline of 1/3 in the PSA is probably possible after 2 days of taking that drug, considering that the next decline was one of about 80 % over 31 days.


One of the differences between Lupron therapy and bicalutamide therapy is that Lupron will generally reduce PSA to a fraction of 1, perhaps as low as 0.1, whereas, bicalutamide will only lower it to perhaps 2 or so, but rarely lower. So, thus far, I think my results fit the bicalutamide pattern and that I can't distinguish, though neither can I rule out, a definite impact from the Budwig protocol.


Looking at the future however, I think that if my PSA results continue to fall, and as time passes they keep ?declining, then I will be able to say that likely Budwig worked, because my PSA results were incompatible with knowledge about how bicalutamide works.


Apart, from the above, I also want to say that Bonnie and I intend to continue following Budwig for good. We've adapted to the FO/CC well and we believe our health is better in general since we've started the diet. So, at this point we're very happy with Budwig and would recommend it to others.


I also want to say that I think this a wonderful yahoo group, and I greatly appreciate the very good information, encouragement and emotional support created here every day. So, thanks to everyone for your good will and contributions and special thanks to Sandra Olson, Denise Newkirk, and Dana Mills, for leading the way in setting the tone and being so generous in their sharing so much with the group.


Warm Feelings and Great Hopes for All of Us,


Joe Firestone


Frankincense oil

 

Hi Everyone,


Does anyone know whether Frankincense oil is compatible with the Budwig protocol?


Joe Firestone


Update - Prostate cancer

 

Hello Sandra and Everyone,


Perhaps it's time for update. As I've said in previous emails my wife, Bonnie, and I began the Budwig diet on February 15 of this year. Bonnie is a breast cancer survivor, who received surgery and chemo therapy and has now been clear for roughly four years. She decided to begin Budwig for preventive reasons and to make things easier for me.


I received a diagnosis of non-metastatic Gleason 8 prostate cancer just short of 5 years ago and decided then to continue taking finasteride for BPH and using supplements and dietary changes to hold back my cancer. Last fall my PSA began to spike and after it reached 27.96, I decided to make a change and begin the Budwig protocol. I also decided to also use bicalutamide (Casodex), and dutasteride (Avodart), as well, and began those drugs on March 1, after tests showing that I was still non-metastatic.


To get prescriptions for the two?drugs, I had to fight with my Kaiser Doctors, who want to use Lupron depot in cases like mine. In the end however, I persuaded them to go along with my choices by citing research on both positive results and differences in side effects and just insisting that I would not take Lupron. I have not shared my choice to pursue Budwig, as well as my pharmaceutical choices with my doctors.


I'm tracking the results of my combined Budwig/pharma treatment with monthly PSA tests. Here are my results:


2/3/17 -- 27.96

3/3/17 -- 17.72

4/03/17 -- 4.67

5/03/17 -- 3.11

6/05/17 -- 2.60


You can see that my PSA has been falling substantially, but that the rate of deceleration in decline of the PSA has been slowing as time passes. At first, I thought that the substantial decline from February 3, to March 3, must have been at least partly due to Budwig, but I now think it was too early for Budwig to have been due to an immediate impact of bicalutamide, because its impact is said to be greatest at the start and I think a decline of 1/3 in the PSA is probably possible after 2 days of taking that drug, considering that the next decline was one of about 80 % over 31 days.


One of the differences between Lupron therapy and bicalutamide therapy is that Lupron will generally reduce PSA to a fraction of 1, perhaps as low as 0.1, whereas, bicalutamide will only lower it to perhaps 2 or so, but rarely lower. So, thus far, I think my results fit the bicalutamide pattern and that I can't distinguish, though neither can I rule out, a definite impact from the Budwig protocol.


Looking at the future however, I think that if my PSA results continue to fall, and as time passes they keep ?declining, then I will be able to say that likely Budwig worked, because my PSA results were incompatible with knowledge about how bicalutamide works.


Apart, from the above, I also want to say that Bonnie and I intend to continue following Budwig for good. We've adapted to the FO/CC well and we believe our health is better in general since we've started the diet. So, at this point we're very happy with Budwig and would recommend it to others.


I also want to say that I think this a wonderful yahoo group, and I greatly appreciate the very good information, encouragement and emotional support created here every day. So, thanks to everyone for your good will and contributions and special thanks to Sandra Olson, Denise Newkirk, and Dana Mills, for leading the way in setting the tone and being so generous in their sharing so much with the group.


Warm Feelings and Great Hopes for All of Us,


Joe Firestone


Re: Psoriasis and the Budwig Diet

 

Thanks June..
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Deepak Gupta

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On Thursday, 15 June 2017 3:43 AM, "June Powell jpow09@... [FlaxSeedOil2]" wrote:


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My grandson at age 12 had psoriasis on forearms ?and heavily crusts on fingertips. Was SO ashamed and embarrassed. ?For several years we tried everything. Light treatments etc etc. specialists in Maryland. D.C. And specialist programs at Johns Hopkins. ?We kept dealing with this sad problem. ?Much financial problem. ?We started food eliminations. Sometime around age 18 or 19 ... he eliminated his favorite food ... BEEF. ?He is now 30 and has never had a piece of psoriasis on his body again. ? Just thought I should put this information out here. ?Perhaps could be a direction to put some thought to. ?Wishing and praying for psoriasis sufferers. ? ?June. ?


On Jun 12, 2017, at 10:33 AM, Deepak Gupta dg_vin@... [FlaxSeedOil2] <FlaxSeedOil2@...> wrote:

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Thanks Julian,

I will certainly suggest this to my Brother in Law..?
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Deepak Gupta

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On Monday, 12 June 2017 4:42 PM, "j.braggins@... [FlaxSeedOil2]" <FlaxSeedOil2@...> wrote:


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Hi Deepak Gupta,

Around the same time I started on the Budwig diet some 5 years ago I had a very painful psoriasis on my hands and forearms that came on suddenly. Previous to that I had been on the Paw Paw tablets for 18 months but they no longer controlled my PSA levels.
After trying various remedies, coconut oil, vinegar (ouch!) pawpaw fermented ointment, Thuja ointment which gave limited relief I went Gluten Free which has fixed the problem.

Going Gluten Free also worked for a step grand-daughter who had had psoriasis for most of her 25 years. There may be many causes of psoriasis so it possibly won't work for everyone but it is a simple solution to try for a few weeks.? Being on the Budwig? Diet did nothing to help the skin problem, and if I try something to test if I still need to be gluten free a rash starts.

I hope this works for your brother-in-law,???
Julian, with regards too.



Please help? : Is Budwig good for Psoriasis patients.

Sun Jun 11, 2017 10:14 am (PDT) . Posted by:
"Deepak Gupta" dg_vin

Dear All,
My brother in law is suffering from severe psoriasis and i am looking for your valuable inputs for the same.
I have been following Budwig protocol for last 3 years first for my mother and after that for myself.

I know very well about effectiveness of this protocol for Cancer and that's why i thought it may be beneficial for Psoriasis also.
Please share your views and also share some other pathy if known to you for Psoriasis patients..
Dear Sandra please share any success story if any in our group folder about Psoriasis Patients.

Thanks Regards.
Deepak Gupta







Re: OT - Reducing edema in the legs

 

Thank you Ivanka for this wonderful advice. ?I will definitely try this on my Dad. ?


Re: question

 

Sive, I once read a story about a young Indian (native) boy who was to go outside of his family home and area to a place where he was given a small circle and was not allowed outside that circle until he saw his animal. I don't remember the details and I hope that someone else does though. I believe that it means to look into your heart, without any influence from anyone and make a decision based on that. I do that quite often and did it before the surgery. It gives me the strength to follow my heart without consulting with my head that always interrupts my thoughts... all that noise. :)

Sive, there are no guarantees, not with any protocol or the medical way. I have seen people that have gone with the medical way and are still alive, eating hotdogs and fries and it is years after. I have also seen those that suffered beyond the imaginable. What I always respected about this protocol is that it is food, really just good food. If you are searching for something else, do not walk away doing nothing while you are searching, do the juicing, Dr.Brag once said that carrot juice is a blood transfusion. This protocol will not hurt you while you are searching for other ways of doing it.? If you believe in God, ask Him to help you make a decision, ask Him to be with you while you are struggling.? Listen to His answers, who knows what you may hear.

Warmly,
Dana



From: "sive neacsu siven01@... [FlaxSeedOil2]"
To: FlaxSeedOil2@...
Sent: Wednesday, June 14, 2017 1:55 PM
Subject: R?sp.: Re: R?sp.: Re: R?sp.: [FlaxSeedOil2] Re: question

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Thank you very much for Dana's answer,
?to be honest, I hope that after 3 months the Budwig diet will work well, I also think that the stagnation of the tumors is okay in the first phase. The problem is that when you want to get on the diet and make available a list of people to whom the diet responds positively. I ask about the part that does not really see the yahoo group, those who do not solve the situation and should try something else, I do not know what the discussion here is. I wanted to know how long you have to stubborn and stand firm on the Budwig diet, because that does not allow for other treatments, at least complementary. This is also the point I asked at one point if 4/5 months, with one or two above stated, would be reasonable. From my personal experience I know that an alternate protocol can be very good for one person, but the other has no results, although it has been followed identically with the same ingredient. In fact, each of us makes an EXPERIENCE on him or a family member. If the result is ok, the experiment has a lifetime, but if it does not have visible effects as long as you can afford to experience HOPE ?


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Hi Sive,

Your questions are good and not unusual to want to know the answers.? I think it really depends on each one of us, where did we start with the cancer journey, have we had any previous treatments, how was our immune system, do we have any mineral/vitamins deficiencies?? Each one can affect the outcome. Was there a tremendous stress in our lives before we were diagnosed? with cancer? Statistics are very important while making a decision as to which protocol to chose or as in your case, should you stay on it or not??? If we are honest, lot of people here had those questions. I can tell you what went on with me for the past 8 plus years.

I had a colon cancer surgery, January 2009 and due to cancer cells found in some lymph nodes I was urged to have chemo which I refused. My son and I did a lot of research and came up with this protocol being scientifically sound, easy to follow and one protocol that I can keep for the rest of my life. at least partly.

Within a week, my energy increased and I absolutely loved my FOCC. I started with Sauerkraut juice but since it was pasteurized didn't make sense to continue, so I sopped it. It was far from easy making my own sauerkraut and much too expensive to juice the sauerkraut that was organic and not pasteurized so I just used the sauerkraut with, other than FOCC, all meals. I had a problem getting my immune system up so I took AHCC, one bottle, probably about a month. The surgery took a lot out of me as I am sensitive to medications, hardly ever even had a cold prior to cancer. All my electrolytes were depleted and so much more. AHCC brought my immune system enough but far from the optimal level.

My dad died in September the same year and then my mom kind of just gave up; they were married 70 years. I lived next to my parents and was very close to them, I suffered with my mom. My immune system dropped to the level of after the surgery.? I then took Beta Glucan for some time which brought my immune system up again. You can chart my immune system going up and down with stress, grief and not being able to deal with it. When mom died it took me a while with lots of hard work to put it all in a proper place.

Why am I telling you this? Please don't take emotions and stress, if you have any as part of life. I am here to tell you that it is not and should never be. I had a biomagnetism therapy two days ago the lady that does it is really, really nice and we always have a little chat where she gives me some 'advise'. She told me that I needed only one more session and the rest is up to me. Her job, or rather the magnets job is to neutralize the 'rooms' where different pathogens live (some live in alkaline medium and some in acidic)which make them leave. That clears up a lot of problems that come every so often. She said that especially if we had cancer we need to address the stress as those pathogens thrive on our bad emotions. I know it is hard to believe that but I have been studying emotions and stress for probably over 15 years. I still do, right now I am learning an ancient Japanese therapy where it speaks of the same, different emotions affect different organs. The method is so easy and it really helps on so many levels.

Sive, I am not sure if anything I mentioned will mean much to you and your situation. You are the only one that knows the whole scenario of your life and you have to make your own decision of the road you are able or willing to take. I would love to hear of what you decide and even if you leave, would you come back and share your new experience?

My very best wishes to you,
Dana