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Hi again Claire,

On reflection, I'm inclined to think that the amount of Omega 3 in the
Salmon is probably about right in the first place. This, given the
general idea being that we're trying to combine sulpherated proteins
with Omega 3 oils. If the fish is high in sulpherated proteins, and
is rich in Omega 3 oils, then nature probably got their balance right
already.

Thanks for enlightening me about ceviche recipes and your kind reply.

Les

Claire West wrote:

I see that whey has the highest protein content (see table below),
but does it have the associated high sulphur content consistent with
the Budwig protocol. In other words, what does quark and cottage
cheese have that is not found in whey? Also, what is the
significance of Cystine and Methionine in a therapeutic setting?
I use a commercial powdered whey for a general protein source.

Ken

Hi Jan,

also check www.flaxoflife.com for an account of very serious brain cancer
under control.

Cliff

For Jan,

Brain Tumors - Things we have seen

This morning I received a message concerning things that we have known about
with brain tumors.

I am not a doctor. I do have a graduate minor in Biology, and can observe
things that

have happened. A lot of what I am aware of recently came from a book written
by Al Carter, a medical research journalist, entitled "The Cancer Answer".
It is available at 1-888-464-5867. I am not an agent, this is simply an
excellent book. There is also an excellent video on the immune system.

A few years back a friend of ours in Orrville, Ohio asked us to send a tape
to a daughter in law in Florida who had a brain tumor. I don't know how long
it was after that

that we heard from them concerning this lady. By this time the tumor had
completely disappeared. She was not telling anybody in the medical field
what she was doing and the story was that the doctors were going nuts trying
to figure out what happened. Her husband, inlaws and some friends were all
on this regimen for prevention.

There has been no more contact. We have observed a lot over the last seven
years.and I wish there were a way and time to update everyone with whom we
have had contact.



In early 1994 a young man 24 had a siezure at work and an MRI found he had a
brain tumor. There was an operation at a major cancer center in The
Southeast and a major part of it was removed but it could not all be excised
and he was told that further effective treatment would not be possible. He
might make it from two to four months.

About that time a friend gave him a tape and he began using flaxseed oil and
cottage cheese. Three months later he went back to the cancer center and
there was no change. Three months later he went back for another checkup and
the doctor told him, "I have no explanation for this but there is not
further cause for concern."

I knew about this because by this time his mother called me and told me. I
heard no more for some time and then heard that the young man was in trouble
again. He had figured that all was well and quit using the oil.

Again he used it and in a few weeks was doing well again. The next time I
heard from them he had gone back to the center and phoned his mother that
what was left of the tumor had shrunk in half. Now, for the first time he
asked the doctor what he thought of using flaxseed oil. The Doctor said, "If
you are using flaxseed oil, keep it up. I use it every day". This man is one
of the top neurosurgeons in The Southeast. Then I heard from his mother that
He had gone down for a check up and came home without waiting for the
results. At the time she talked to me she felt very optimistic when the
report came from the doctor. I know now that he had a grade 4 Astrocytoma
which is usually fatal in six months to a year from its inception. On
October 19, 1999 I met a man who knew him and he told me Mitch was not doing
well. He passed away a short time later. He used the flax oil to the end.

Dr. Basile knew him well and told he that he that that in part his death at
that time came from complications from the chemo and steroids that he was
still getting. The upside is that he had at least four years of good quality
life added as a result of the use of Flaxseed Oil.

My Oncologist told me that no doctor believes that cancer is ever cured, but
that all they can do is try to keep ahead of it as long as possible.
Compared to normal expectations Mitch did well.



One lady I know of is around 37 and has seven children. She also has a fast
growing brain tumor. They are treating with chemo. I do not know whether
they did any operating or not. The family was not willing that she should
abandon standard treatment but finaly did add the use of flax oil. The last
I heard in early summer of 1999 she had about two months more of chemo
scheduled and she is doing quite well. I believe that she has already made
it longer than the doctors thought possible. We know by now that even if
standard treatment is continued the use of the flaxseed oil appears to be
highly beneficial.

As of today, Aug 3, 1999, I understand that there have been two operations
which have left her somewhat impaired and the doctors are still giving her
chemo. She is using flax oil and that appears to be causing her to survive
or so her friends believe. No one can ever know what would have happened had
she been put on heavy use of flax oil and not had the other treatments that
have been damaging because no one can ever try it both ways. Her folks
strongly opposed the use of Flaxseed Oil and herbs but finally relented
somewhat and allowed it to be used along with the chemo and now, in December
of 1999 are praising chemo for what it has done for their daughter.

Cliff

Hi Jan,

This has been posted different times on this list and I tried to post it
privately to pipersmama@... and it came back undeliverable.

Different times I have used addresses from individuals posting to the list
in an effort to post privately and they have come back. I don't know why
this happens.

Anyway, this is for you.

Cliff
*


LUNG CANCER

I am going to set up a document with accounts of lung cancer of which we
have known.


Hi

Saturday Aug 19, 2000 I had a call from Casper, WY, that was exciting.

The caller told me that in march, 2000 he was diagnosed with a serious
cancer in his right lung and told that he did not have more than 1 to 3
months to live.

He was given chemo and couldn't stand it. He was put on hospice with
morphine patches in case the pain got too great. He was 73 and had just
about decided to go to the hospital and die.

At this point a rancher friend who had gotten a tape on Flaxseed Oil at a
Bible conference heard about his situation and gave it to him.

He told me he listened to the tape and fell in love with what he heard and
imediately began to use 6 tablespoons of flaxseed oil and cottage cheese a
day.

He said it "kicked in" right away, though usually it does not work quite
that quickly.

He had an appointment with the Oncologist before long and the doctor took X
rays. The caller said he came out of the lab soon with a puzzled look on
his face and asked him what, if anything, he had been doing.
He told the doctor he had been using flaxseed oil.

The doctor said that the tumor he had in his right lung had not changed,
but
the tumor in his left lung, about which he had not told him, had completely
disappeared without a trace.

He gave the doctor a tape and told me that the doctor and nurses were
making
tapes and distributing them.

The caller said he was feeling good, continuing on the flaxseed oil and
getting along well and seemed quite excited; as I was to hear it.

We are praising The Lord for His provision.

"Cliff

*

About three years ago I was in my doctor's waiting room when a couple came
in. I spoke to them briefly.

That night the lady called and told me that her husband was a retired
college professor, 73, who had an 85% involvement with cancer in his left
lung.

The decision had been made to remove the lung at the Thompson Cancer center
in Knoxville, Tn.

When the attempt was made it was determined that the cancer had spread
further and they simply closed up and decided to use radiation and chemo.

The radiation had been done with no apparent results and he and his wife
decided that rather than go through the misery of chemo they would just
live>as long as possible and forget it.

Thje Oncologist did not argue with that. She suggested that they come to
Rutledge and get flax oil and get started with four to eight tablespoons a
day with cottage cheese.

They decided on 6 and got two quarts and then got their own after that.

Three months later I was in again and asked if she had seen him again. She

had seen him the previous week. The cancer was still there but he was

holding his own.

I remembered him about a year and a half later and she said that he had
died, but that he did not die of cancer. He was not a very active person
and died of a blood clot that moved to his heart.

***

A lady about 73 lived two houses down from us. She was a frail person and
a
smoker.
The doctors found a tumor about the size of a quarter on the lower part of
her right lung and immediately urged an operation to remove half of the
lung.

She was afraid she could not stand the operation and her grandson who knew
us well urged her to go on Flax Oil. I talked to her as well.
She did but did not use it as she should have. Nevertheless there was no
further growth of the tumor and I thought all was well.

About two years later I heard that she had died. Her grandson told me that
on later checkups there was no growth of the cancer but the doctor kept
urging an operation. The daughter that lived one door down did not want
her
to do it but she had five other children and they persuaded her to go along
wit h the doctor's advice.

She did not make it off the operating table. The grandson did not feel
kindly toward his aunts and uncles but rationalized that it was his Mamaw's
time to go.

***

About 6 years ago a friend of ours had a cousin who was a veteran of WW II.
He had very serious lung cancer and it had spread to his upper arm.

He got started with Flax Oil and it was not many months before we heard he
was cancer free in a check up at the VA hospital. He called me and talked
about it and was a happy man.

About two years later I heard that he had passed away. Some folks have the
idea that flax oil is like an antibiotic. He got well so he saw no further
use for the oil. That is a mistake. One should have at least a
maintenance
dose of oil each day to keep healthy.

He didn't and the cancer redeveloped. He decided that since it hadn't
cured
him he wouldn't bother with it again.

***

The brother in law of Betsy, a member of a local church was 47 years old
and incapacitated with lung cancer. This was around 7 years ago as I
remember.

He had been given up and was doing no standard treatment. He began using 4
tablespoons of Flaxseed Oil a day with cottage cheese
and in time [I do not know exactly how long but it was not many months]
the
only souvenier left was a little scar tissue and he was back at work. I
never knew his name but did not about him. Betsy is the best friend of a
good friend of ours.

I visited the church occaisionally as the main musician was a fellow
teacher
and good friend. Kim was also the pastor's niece.

The pastor's wife had colon cancer and had part of the colon removed and
had been put on heavy chemo. Kim wanted her to switch to flax oil but a
daughter was a student nurse, and told her "Momma, do what the doctor tells
you".

In a while the lady had virtually no immune system left and the doctor
advised her to stay away from people lest she catch a cold and die and took
her off the chemo to see if her body could rebuild.

Now she began using Flax Oil. In a short time the white count was going up
and she was able to be out in public again. She had an appointment with
the
doctor and told him what she was doing.

He told her that had not done her any good. It was the chemo that was
helping her. She was put back on chemo and in about three months she went
into a coma and died. The chemo had destroyed her heart and liver.

One Sunday night the pastor, John, asked me for a tape. I didn't know he
had not had one. A few weeks later I visited again and was talking with
John after the service. He told me that he hoped I was wrong but that he
believed I was right. He said, "They killed my wife".

Then I asked him if he had heard about Betsy's brother in law. He said, "I
hear he's pretty bad." I said, "He's well."

Betsy was still there and John asked her how her brother in law was doing.
She said, "He's well".

John looked at me, and with all the feeling he could put in it, he said,
"There's going to be doctors in HELL because of things like this!!"



Last June a friend of ours from beekeeping stopped by. She is a heavy
woman, probably over 250 lbs. She had been diagnosed with a rapidly
growing
cancer in her lung.

The doctor was really after her to get it cut out as soon as possible. She
was resisting because she did not think she could stand the operation.

She began using 8 tablespoons of flax oil a day [which would be too much I
believe if it were kept up] and in a checkup 8 weeks later there had been
no further growth.

The doctor still urged her to get an operation. A subsequent X ray showed
no growth but was a little fuzzy as to any reduction. She had an MRI Oct.
19 and a consultation Oct 25 but I haven't heard any results.

In January 2002 I learned that in early November of 2001 she had had a hip
bone "explode" and had been hospitalized for quite a while, I think in late
January before she was released. She did not have an opportunity to use the
FO/CC during that time.

She told me that the mass was still there but seemed to have changed its
character. The doctor at that time did not believe it was malignant any
longer but didn't want to go in and take anything for a biopsy as she was
afraid she might bleed to death.

Today, June 30, 2002 I recieved word that she had passed away. I had not
known any further details.

September 11, 2002 I received further word. The cancer had come back. She
had gone back to the FO/CC. At the time of her death the cancer had been
eliminated except for two small spots in a lung and one in her liver.

She passed away as the result of ill health connected with Sugar Diabetes.
A friend emphasized that it was not the cancer.

Cliff

Claire,

Would you explain to me what is a hydrochloric capsule. I too have problem with my acidity in my stomach and I use to help some Apple Cider Vinegar Powder for every day help.

Ohterwise in emergency, I have used some Apple Vienegar in a glass of water with honey. Which one is better? What is the difference, does someone know?

Thank you,

Diane










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Subject: Re: [FlaxSeedOil2] questions..help please!! :)--Les
Date: Sat, 19 Apr 2003 08:22:24 -0700

Hi Les,

<This all sounds interesting - I've researched ceviche recipes a little.
How much FSO do you add to the salmon ceviche (Fluid Oz per lb or ml
per gm)? This is of concern because Dr Budwig suggests that too much
FSO in relation to the amount of sulpherated protein can be
detrimental rather than beneficial.

I only eat about 3 oz of the ceviche at a time (I'm an older person, with limited stomach acid, and must take a hydrochloric capsule even with that small an amount). I started taking 2T of oil with it, but that seemed too much (I can tell immediately from gas forming in my stomach), so now I take 1T. If you have an idea about a good ratio in this instance, I'd be interested in your ideas.

Claire






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Jan -

At 20:37 Uhr +0200 19.04.2003, JanPM wrote:

Hello - my husband has just been diagnosed with lung cancer - small
cell, and had a tumor (single) 3.5 cent. removed from his brain at
Mem. Sloan Kettering on Tuesday - he is due to meet with both a lung
dr and neuro-radiolist at MSK this coming week. I am scrambling to
find those alternatives that might be helpful, curative either in
place of conventional or along with conventional - as in intergrated
medicine.

I already know what conventional medicine and the big business of
cancer think of alternatives. right now, I've gone to Barlenes
flaxseed oil with cottage cheese, IP6, colustrum, heavy vit C, E with
selinium, alpha linconic, co-q-10, etc.

That's OK.
What is alpha linconic?
If you mean alpha linoleic aka linolenic acid/ omega 3 there is
plenty in flaxseed oil.

I add a Budwig reference list to this message.

Diet wise - (he has gone from 157 lbs last week to 145 upon release
from MSK) I am trying to give him plenty of raw greens, some fruits,
and good protein leaving most carbs out of his diet. MSK reccommends
a heavy refined diet loaded with sugars and white fours etc. this is
to try to increase weight. As I understand it cancer cells have more
insulin receptors then regular cells - so this would be detrimental in
my opinion. (anyone here have experience with IPT - insulin
potentailizing therapy?)

MSK recommends sugar and white flour?
They sure want to keep your husband as a patient.
Sugar feeds cancer cells.
White flour is crap, most nutrients are gone.

By all means, get Dr Budwig's cook-book.

Regards

Peter


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Hello - my husband has just been diagnosed with lung cancer - small
cell, and had a tumor (single) 3.5 cent. removed from his brain at
Mem. Sloan Kettering on Tuesday - he is due to meet with both a lung
dr and neuro-radiolist at MSK this coming week. I am scrambling to
find those alternatives that might be helpful, curative either in
place of conventional or along with conventional - as in intergrated
medicine.

I already know what conventional medicine and the big business of
cancer think of alternatives. right now, I've gone to Barlenes
flaxseed oil with cottage cheese, IP6, colustrum, heavy vit C, E with
selinium, alpha linconic, co-q-10, etc.

Diet wise - (he has gone from 157 lbs last week to 145 upon release
from MSK) I am trying to give him plenty of raw greens, some fruits,
and good protein leaving most carbs out of his diet. MSK reccommends
a heavy refined diet loaded with sugars and white fours etc. this is
to try to increase weight. As I understand it cancer cells have more
insulin receptors then regular cells - so this would be detrimental in
my opinion. (anyone here have experience with IPT - insulin
potentailizing therapy?)

I need help, and I need information quickly, thank you for any help
you might give. God Bless, Jan

Hi Darla,

Perhaps others have answered this more adequately than I by this time.

It may have something to do with allergic reactions. There may be other
things that can help supply the needed sulfur based proteins.

There is a product called "ezekiel" bread available at health food stores.
It is a heavy, nutritious bread made with sprouted grains that has all the
amino acids. A couple of slices of that at the time of using FO would be a
big help. Also, I have read that dried skim milk powder is a rich source of
the needed proteins. I have no idea how much to use.

There is a product called "Companion Nutrients" available at Nature;s
distributors in Arizona that is supposed to be designed to make the
Essential Fatty Acids work. My wife uses them as have I at times. Use one
capsule per tablespoon of oil; probably best before meals.

These sources, or combinations of them, might help.

Cliff





Cliff, Did you read my email concerning my touble using FO/CC and the
stomach pain, bloating, constipation etc.? If so do you have any thoughts
on that and what I can do? I would hate to have to stop using it!! Thank
You!

Darla,

Raw goat's milk sounds like an excellent solution for you. I would, though, like to add a thought here, since you don't eat fish and are fighting cancer: you might want to consider adding kelp or some other sea vegetable to your diet as I think it is very difficult to obtain all the trace minerals we need from farmed produce--even when its organic.

Claire

Hi Les,

<This all sounds interesting - I've researched ceviche recipes a little.
How much FSO do you add to the salmon ceviche (Fluid Oz per lb or ml
per gm)? This is of concern because Dr Budwig suggests that too much
FSO in relation to the amount of sulpherated protein can be
detrimental rather than beneficial.

I only eat about 3 oz of the ceviche at a time (I'm an older person, with limited stomach acid, and must take a hydrochloric capsule even with that small an amount). I started taking 2T of oil with it, but that seemed too much (I can tell immediately from gas forming in my stomach), so now I take 1T. If you have an idea about a good ratio in this instance, I'd be interested in your ideas.

Claire

Peter
I was thinking about this table just a couple of hours ago..... I wonder
if it is correct in that when you look at the analysis of WHEY and the
yoghurt (undefined as to type and composition) something just doesn't seem to
add up. Most commercial nonfat plain yoghurts seems to have quite a bit of
whey, given their consistency.
I would suspect that the drier the cultured dairy product, the less whey
they would contain.....
I think I'll try to find addresses for Stonyfield, Dannon and Yoplait and
ask the question.....
For now, since we make our own yoghurt and kefir, we are maintaining the
whey instead of feeding it to the cats.
mjh


In a message dated 4/19/03 10:39:10 AM Eastern Daylight Time,
FlaxSeedOil2@... writes:

% Protein Cystine Methionine

Cow's Milk 7.55 0.07 0.19
Cottage Cheese 12.39 0.12 0.37
Yogurt 5.25 0.05 0.16
Goat's Milk 3.56 0.05 0.08
Goats's soft cheese* 18.52 0.08 0.49
Soy milk 2.75 0.05 0.04
Silk tofu 4.80 0.07 0.07
Whey dried 11.73 0.21 0.22

USDA Handbook 8 Database Release 15 (August 2002)

Regards

Peter

Darla,
Dr.Budwig sees animal fats as one of the repiratory poisons (referring
to cell respiration) and wants her patients to stay away from it.
Therefore the low fat dairy. She does not make a distinction between
butter fat and other animal fats.

You don't need to take 1/4 cup (60 ml) of cottage cheese with each
tablespoon (15 ml) of FSO. 1/8 cup (30 ml) is enough.
That gives you a 1:2 ratio (fo:cc) which is what Dr.Budwig has been
using. If you use yogurt, take 2 to 3 times as much of it for each tblsp
of FSO as you would take cottage cheese.

Regarding your problems with pasteurized milk (which you mentioned in
another post), you may be lacking the enzyme lactase. I didn't see that
anyone has suggested using it. Have you tried it? It could solve your
problem with digesting pasteurized milk products. That coupled with
about half the quantity of cc (than you have been taking) could make the
difference. I hope so.

Good luck, Wilhelm



Darla Lallatin wrote:

Thank You Claire..I had just been thinking the same things my self. I do think it is propbably the pasturized dairy. I usually eat raw goat yogurt and it treats me beautifully. I had lost access to it recently, and also the thought of trying to eat 3-4 cups of this per day vs. 1 cup cottage cheese seemed ridiculous. However, I will have to quit using the FO/dairy comb. altogether if I cam't fix this trouble quick. I appreciate the salmon idea, but I have no source for this type of fish and frankly I do not know if I can stomach it....I do not eat fish or meat. My goal is to switch to all raw goat yogurt my own ground flax meal and see if this changes the equation ( given I can handle such a large quantity of yogurt!) Thanks!

Claire West <clairewest1@...> wrote:Darla,

<I love the taste of it, but it really makes me bloated and slows my elimination way down.

There can be no question then, that this combination is not in anyway promoting health, and if it's not promoting your health, it is certainly not helping you fight cancer (where if anything the elimination of wastes needs to be speeded up.)

The problem is you don't know at this point if it's the oil (or the brand or the freshness of it) or the dairy. I think you are going to have to go through some experimentation--perhaps quite a bit--to discover the needs and preferences of your unique body.

I don't want to add to your confusion as you consider your options, but I think you need as much information as you can manage to take in, so . . .

I understand that the fo/cc combination is the preferred one by Dr. Budwig but her work was done with quark which long ago in Germany was made from unpasteurized (unheated) milk and was thus a very, very different product than the cottage cheese (even organic) available to us today. In addition to the harm pasteurized dairy can do in the human body, there is the question of some of us who have lactose problems of who are allegeric to even raw dairy.

I have the kind of reaction to dairy that you complain of (bloating, constipation) plus it also makes my nose stuffy with excess mucus, so I combine my oil with salmon (uncooked, prepared as ceviche) because that fish in nature "comes with" high amounts of omega 3 oil and so seems a natural and reasonable thing to combine with additional n3. Salmon is also very high in sulpherated protein. If you decide to try this, be sure you buy wild salmon (even if frozen) rather than the farm-raised.

Good luck.

Claire





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Cliff, Did you read my email concerning my touble using FO/CC and the stomach pain, bloating, constipation etc.? If so do you have any thoughts on that and what I can do? I would hate to have to stop using it!! Thank You!

Cliff Beckwith <cliffb865@...> wrote:Hi Darla,

There are at least 30 different strains of Prostate Cancer. My Oncologist
says the same thing is true of all cancers.

For this reason there are variations of response to anything that is done.
Where an operation "gets it all" of course the strain would not be
important.

From what we have seen and read the immune system is very important.
Mutations occur every day and if the immune system is right they are taken
care of and we never know it.

Some time ago, probably over a year and a half, we heard of a lady in
Knoxville who was in a bad way with Breast cancer. She was not expected to
make it very long. She became interested in the FO/CC approach and showed a
lot of improvement.

However, the doctors stayed with it as well. She didn't want more
operations, chemo etc. but the doctors said that was what she needed and she
followed those directions. She checked with an Oncologist who is favorable
to FO/CC but stayed with those she knew.

We heard recently that she is now in her 4th chemo regimen. They are
encouraged by how well she has held up but she is now very ill. I do not
know how she will wind up but if she stays with the chemo I am not
optimistic. I haven't seen anyone get well by staying with chemo after
chemo. Every round takes more life out of one in my observation.

There are other things that appear to enhance any other natural approach.

I am currently using a good brand of ellagic acid and Graviola. These may
have a very helpful effect in addition to the FO/CC.

It has now been 12 years and 3 months for me with a quite aggressive cancer.
I feel that the Lord has been good to me. I am also not yet to the point
where I feel that I am in danger.

Dr. Budwig says that in three months the blood will be bright red and tumors
disappearing. We have seen it happen more quickly than that. Other times
it has not.

Until the time comes that this is really tested from the standpoint of
saving human lives and not primarily profit one cannot be much more definite
than that.

Cliff


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My other question about Udo's that I have not been comfortable with is the tryglicerides ( very vague...where does this come from) and the evening primrose oil. I have always been told that this is not soemthing to be used by everyone.

Cliff Beckwith <cliffb865@...> wrote:Hi,

If anyone addressed this I missed it.

I may be looking at this incorrectly, but as I understand it, Udo's oil is a
perfect blend of Omega 3 and Omega 6 in the right ratio.

The problem is that we already have an excess of Omega 6 in our normal diets
and I cannot see how we can gain by adding an oil that puts in more Omega 6.

If we had no extra Omega 6 in our diets I would be all for Udo's oil, but
that is not the case.

Cliff


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Hi,

If anyone addressed this I missed it.

I may be looking at this incorrectly, but as I understand it, Udo's oil is a
perfect blend of Omega 3 and Omega 6 in the right ratio.

The problem is that we already have an excess of Omega 6 in our normal diets
and I cannot see how we can gain by adding an oil that puts in more Omega 6.

If we had no extra Omega 6 in our diets I would be all for Udo's oil, but
that is not the case.

Cliff

I just recently added the sesame and sunflower seeds in hopes of balancing things out...I am pretty sure it is all of the dairy that is causing me the problem, not the flax or other seeds. :(

"Carolyn J. Kreibich" <kreibich@...> wrote:Did you think about eliminating the sunflower seeds and the sesame seeds? IMO, I would use the ground flaxseed and not the sunflower seeds or sesame seeds. II get bloating whenever I eat something I am allergic to, such as wheat.)

Carolyn

<I love the taste of it, but it really makes me bloated and slows my elimination way down.

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Hi,

This was sent to me by a friend and I am using it. It has 600 mgs of
Graviola per capsule and this may aid the process. I have had a PSA this
week but haven't been given any results.

If it were anything to be alarmed about I am sure I would have been
notified.

I may wait until I see the Oncologist.

As far as I am concerned the FO/CC is still the big gun. A fair number of
those I have known and with whom I have corresponded over the last 12 years
and who still stayed primarily with the doctors are long gone.

I am willing to try any natural aid, and even an emergency Hormone Blockade
if something happens that I am not understanding, but it seems more and more
that I have been led the right way to learn and survive.

I am 81 now and when I look at the obits I see a lot of folks younger than
I.

Cliff
****

What is your source of Ellagic acid and how much do you take? The
therapeutic dose, as I understand it is about 450-900mg per day. The
recommended maintenance dose is about 150 mg per day. Do you by any any
chance
use Greenwood Health System's product?

Take care,
Serge


PS: I am using the therapeutic amount. If this helps to control the PCa,
the maintenance amount would not be overly expensive. I can still handle
the heavier amount.

Cliff, Thanks for your response. I have had no interest what so ever in chemo, radiation or drugs. I know those things do not heal the body. I know with God's help my body made by him can heal it self when I do all that I can. Could you give me more info on the graviola and elliagic acid..? Is it something that can be used with other cancers as well? Thank you and God continue to bless you. Darla

Cliff Beckwith <cliffb865@...> wrote:Hi Darla,

There are at least 30 different strains of Prostate Cancer. My Oncologist
says the same thing is true of all cancers.

For this reason there are variations of response to anything that is done.
Where an operation "gets it all" of course the strain would not be
important.

From what we have seen and read the immune system is very important.
Mutations occur every day and if the immune system is right they are taken
care of and we never know it.

Some time ago, probably over a year and a half, we heard of a lady in
Knoxville who was in a bad way with Breast cancer. She was not expected to
make it very long. She became interested in the FO/CC approach and showed a
lot of improvement.

However, the doctors stayed with it as well. She didn't want more
operations, chemo etc. but the doctors said that was what she needed and she
followed those directions. She checked with an Oncologist who is favorable
to FO/CC but stayed with those she knew.

We heard recently that she is now in her 4th chemo regimen. They are
encouraged by how well she has held up but she is now very ill. I do not
know how she will wind up but if she stays with the chemo I am not
optimistic. I haven't seen anyone get well by staying with chemo after
chemo. Every round takes more life out of one in my observation.

There are other things that appear to enhance any other natural approach.

I am currently using a good brand of ellagic acid and Graviola. These may
have a very helpful effect in addition to the FO/CC.

It has now been 12 years and 3 months for me with a quite aggressive cancer.
I feel that the Lord has been good to me. I am also not yet to the point
where I feel that I am in danger.

Dr. Budwig says that in three months the blood will be bright red and tumors
disappearing. We have seen it happen more quickly than that. Other times
it has not.

Until the time comes that this is really tested from the standpoint of
saving human lives and not primarily profit one cannot be much more definite
than that.

Cliff


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