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TRIED EVERYTHING & SOMETHING MAY BE WORKING

 

Will be 62 in June.
In good physical shape. Only negative, is my nagging prostate nuisance.
Maybe the FOCCFS grounded can take the credit? I take it before 08:00 with tea (chamomile, green, pepermint or pau d arco)
My urinary diary: 06:35, 10:22, 11:17, 12:00, 12:20.
From 13:26 to 17:00. That's 3.5 hrs w/o any urges in spite of my caveat lunch (Einstein's hot dog and a Red Dog beer)
I'll try pumpkin seeds plain.
Thanks for being there.
Ramon

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Subj: Re: [pralt-discuss] LIVER CA IN THE WORKS
Date: 3/19/2003 1:15:27 PM Eastern Standard Time
From: Carartjim
To: SANSRX

Ramon, It seems you have tried everything and nothing is working for you.
Sorry to hear that.
How old are you, if you don't mind my asking? I wonder if age has anything to do with it.
May God Bless you..............


Re: clinic in Zion/Studies

Peter Fackelmann
 

Mike -

One often mentioned name in this context is Dr Myers.
I didn't check the texts, because I know it's nonsense.

Regards

Peter

At 13:22 Uhr +0100 19.03.2003, Mike & Jane wrote:
Dietitian Jane and I always try to keep up on all the studies and I have
yet to see any studies that say that flax oil promotes cell growth cancer.
I know there is concern over phytoestrogens and prostate & breast cancer -
but that not been proven, and I think the people here show that its not
true.

Could you provide me some links to this information, I'd really like to
review it.


Re: clinic in Zion, Illinois

Lorenzo
 

"Every other month a study is published stating that ALA
(alpha linoleic acid) from flax oil is promoting cancer......">


REPLY;

Linoleic acid is Omega 6 oil.

Flaxseed oil has more Omega 3 oil than Omega 6 oil. Flaxseed oil is the richest vegetable source of Omega 3.

Omega 3 Oil is also called Linolenic acid.

Notice the similarity of the words linoleic to linolenic.

I read the net widely and would like to see these studies that blame flax oil for promoting illness.

A Google search did not turn up any.


Something fishy here.


Lorenzo



Every other month a study is published stating that ALA
(alpha linoleic acid) from flax oil is promoting cancer





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`Re: clinic in Zion, Illinois

Peter Fackelmann
 

Cliff -

Every other month a study is published stating that ALA
(alpha linoleic acid) from flax oil is promoting cancer.
Flax oil (Budwig) protagonists explain that one has to
mix flax oil with sulphur bearing proteins like quark/
cottage cheese to get results.
That's indeed the best way as lipids are only water-soluble
and bio-available when bound to proteins.
The researchers used only one component of this recipe - why?
But they missed one more thing - why?

Finally I got the reference from Dr Budwig about the effect
of single alpha linoleic acid (ALA) on malign cells.
It was written in her book "Tod des Tumors" (Death of Tumor),
p 133.

Yes, ALA pushes cell growth. Budwig concludes that cancer
tissue is defined by growth disturbance. This opinion is
supported by the histological manifestation of a cancer cell
- 2 kernels in 1 cell. The cell diversification starts with
building 2 kernels and stops then. The weakness of this
cell, hence its inability to build 2 new cells is the cause
of malignity.

This growth disturbance can be repaired in vitro and vivo with
flax oil. The cells divide again, but they are not malign
anymore.

Hence the observation that cancer tissue grows 250% with
ALA. The researchers only forgot to test the grown tissue
for malignity. Some researchers. Outer tissue like mucous
membrane is disposed, inner tissue is reduced by apoptosis.

So ALA does cure cancer by completing the interrupted growth
process of cancer cells.

And with sulphur bearing protein it's even better.

Lipids are only water-soluble and free-flowing when bound to protein; thus
the importance of protein-rich cottage cheese. When high quality,
electron-rich fats are combined with proteins, the electrons are protected
until the body requires energy. This energy source is then fully and
immediately available to the body on demand, as nature intended.

(from curezone)

Regards

Peter

At 15:47 Uhr +0100 18.03.2003, Cliff Beckwith wrote:
However, I wouldn't touch the Flaxseed oil without the sulfur based
proeteins with a ten foot pole as the old saying goes, unless the amouint of
Flaxseed oil used would be no more than a tablespoon and that much is not
enough to fight serious cancer.

Dr. Budwig says that the use of the oil without the sulfur based proteins
may have "the opposite effect".

My Oncologist thinks somewhat like the Cancer treatment Centers of America I
believe, except she would not suggest the Flax Oil without the sulfur based
proteins and is coming closer to Dr. Budwig's protocol as she sees it
working.

My whole quarrel with what is happening in the Americas is that we will not
experiment with what Dr. Budwig has found to work because it would greatly
damage our Pharmaceutical Industry. If they would and doctors would go
along with it we would enjoy the sunshine on some beach instead of at the
computer.

Cliff


Re: I want to do a liver clense ????

sitzfamily
 

Hi Alan,
I used to live in Asia ( Bali for 11 years) and while there are many
healers who can heal cancer, there are also many dangers of living
in Asia. Parasites and pollution being two major ones. I feel a
liver cleanse would be good for you, but I would do a parasite
cleanse as well. Do you have Dr. Clark's book, " The CUre for All
Cancers"? You can order it from
They also sell the herbs you need for the cleanse and the zappers.

Also, watch out for pollutants. Are you in a big city? Protect your
liver by avoid car exhaust ( nearly impossible in asia- but worth
looking silly by wearing a mask), pesticides. Search out organic
foods. Sometimes there are expat farmers growing organic foods. Or
find old farmers who can't afford pesticeds. I used to buy veggies
from a really old lady who grew wonderful veggies with no pesticides
and loved getting money form the bule ( white person) who lived in
her village. I kept her in betel nut and the occasional new sarong
for years. The pesticides come in 50 lb bags with the warnings in
ENGLISH and then get broken into 1 kilo bags by the brokers with no
warnings attached. The farmers have no idea jow dangerous they are
or how to properly use them. They frequently spray right before
harvesting. And of course the ubiquitous cigarette smoke. If you
smoke, you'll never beat your cancer unless you quit. This may sound
obvious to most people, but you'd be surprised who powerful the
addiction is at creating denial. And avoid all smaoke. You may have
to stop eating out to avoid smoke.

Finally, I know how hard it is to avoid fried food in asia. But
worth the effort. train your cook, (assuming you have one, most
expats do) to cook by steaming and to fry in the wok with veggie
stock. Use coconut oil to cook, and buy it locally from someone who
makes it, not from the grocery store.

Also, I had very results with Chines herbs. Is there a Chinese
herbalist in your area? There usually is. They're called Sinshe in
Indonesia, don't know about Thailand.

Best to you,
Virginia


--- In FlaxSeedOil2@..., "Alan Nongkhai" <alan_nk@u...>
wrote:

Hi all , I need to apoligise to many kind persond that answered my
cal for
help about 6 months ago ,my address then being <apatter1>. I have
since been
fro Thailand to Australia seking help fom my advanced ( now) liver
cancer .
My mails got lost in the changes of computors and travelling.
I was particulary interested in "Mels" Rolling Stone Project as
I would
like to do a liver clense but in some reciepies it advises against
a clense
if ill . well I have been on the full Budwig diet 50 ml a day
about 24 Gms
Vit C and a stack of other Vitimins and have steadily gotten
worse . my
liver is lie s piece of bone in places and is enlarging to my
stomache . I
am also m=now taking some "sectert herbs and spices " from Laos
that has
reportedly cured many cancer victims .
I answered a lot of mails concerning my problem but afraid I
probably missed
the replys. If any body has any suggestions about a liver cancer
when it
gets to be this problem I surley would like to read it

Best Regards from
Alan Patterson
THAI = LAOS = EXPAT SERVICES Co Ltd.
Postal address¡­¡­. 1133 Kondgee Uthit .Nong Khai
Thailand 43000

alan_nk@u...











-----Original Message-----
From: Cliff Beckwith [mailto:cliffb865@c...]
Sent: Tuesday, March 18, 2003 9:48 PM
To: FlaxSeedOil2@...
Subject: `Re: [FlaxSeedOil2] clinic in Zion, Illinois


Hi Rose,

Thanks for that input. I am glad to know that conerning The Cancer
Treatment Centers of America. The Gerson treatment doesn't use
the sulfur
based proteins either. I do not know the Gerson degree of success
but I
believe it is less than Dr. Budwig was able to achieve.

However, I wouldn't touch the Flaxseed oil without the sulfur based
proeteins with a ten foot pole as the old saying goes, unless the
amouint of
Flaxseed oil used would be no more than a tablespoon and that much
is not
enough to fight serious cancer.

Dr. Budwig says that the use of the oil without the sulfur based
proteins
may have "the opposite effect".

My Oncologist thinks somewhat like the Cancer treatment Centers of
America I
believe, except she would not suggest the Flax Oil without the
sulfur based
proteins and is coming closer to Dr. Budwig's protocol as she sees
it
working.

My whole quarrel with what is happening in the Americas is that we
will not
experiment with what Dr. Budwig has found to work because it would
greatly
damage our Pharmaceutical Industry. If they would and doctors
would go
along with it we would enjoy the sunshine on some beach instead of
at the
computer.

Cliff

----- Original Message -----
From: "Rose Bowman" <rosiebowman@y...>
To: <FlaxSeedOil2@...>
Sent: Tuesday, March 18, 2003 9:32 AM
Subject: [FlaxSeedOil2] clinic in Zion, Illinois



Regarding Cancer Treatment Centers of America and the
connection to the FO/CC protocol...

Their approach is to use "restrained" chemo or
radiation to get cancer under control, then lots and
lots of good nutrition, herbs, and other alternatives
to heal the body. They do indeed strongly acknowledge
the anti-cancer benefits of flax oil and recommend it
as part of the nutritional healing program. However,
they don't advocate the sulpherated proteins. It
seems that the Budwig diet is one of the few that
stresses this combination.

Rose Bowman



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Re: EDTA

Gaylen Tibbitt
 

It is a asfe detox that's been around sinse the 40's. I also heard a story about some one who fell into a bunch of pestisides or fertilizer & was expected to die. Took EDTA & is ok now.






From: "Alan Nongkhai" <alan_nk@...>
Reply-To: FlaxSeedOil2@...
To: "FlaxSeedOil2@yahoogroups. com" <FlaxSeedOil2@...>, "Cliff Beckwith" <cliffb865@...>, "Cancercured@Yahoogroups. Com" <cancercured@...>
Subject: [FlaxSeedOil2] EDTA
Date: Wed, 19 Mar 2003 19:12:28 +0700

Hello all ,,I just recieved this message from a friend whos mate hasd sent
this E Mail to him and he passed it on . doess anybody have any info on this
. IT IS A GENUINE CASE !

He was
about to have his latest and worst op when they cancelled it saying the
tumour had disappeared. Rob had been self dosing (of course) with EDTA
(Ethylene Diamine Tetra Acetic Acid). It's a chealating agent for
decontaminatiom from nuclear fallout. It latches on to heavy metals and
lets you piss them out.
Seems to have sorted Rob out anyway. It's good there are some winners.

Best Regards from
Alan Patterson
1133/6 Tannon Gow Warrawot
Nongkhai
Thailand 43000
Phone 66 042 421223

NEW E MAIL < alan_nk@...>





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Re: EDTA attn Gaylen

 

In a message dated 3/19/03 9:39:42 AM Central Standard Time,
golfegg@... writes:

<< It is a asfe detox that's been around sinse the 40's. I also heard a story
about some one who fell into a bunch of pestisides or fertilizer & was
expected to die. Took EDTA & is ok now. >>
Gaylen,
Please tell if this requires a prescription. Please tell us more about it.
Jim


GOOD STORY CLIFF

Miz Judy & Mr. Mel
 

Nancy O'Loughlin Keelan: This is the kind of good reports we need about our body's healing with the natural things GOD put on Earth for man to use. If anyone of you also need more stories, that are coming in daily of people using other remedies., go to my other group at miracle2bodyhousecleaning_subscribe@... We talk about cleanings the outside and inside the body, home, and environment, to rid of the un-needed toxins and poisons the body carries, that cause us illness of all kinds. WE believe that gradually the doctor will take you off the medications, that he has you on. Right now we have a woman, using the Miracle 2, with great results, and her doctor is wanting to know more now about the products, because he is so amazed at her turn-around-condition. We hope she will soon testify. She is waiting on GOD to tell her when the time is right., But this woman really has a history of illness that keeps her in a hospital more than home. and LATELY LESS IN THE HOSPITAL..why? BECAUSE SHE IS GETTING RID OF THE TOXIC-POISONS, AND LETTING THE BODY HEAL ITSELF. Patients of JOB and not giving up is the first main step..allowing the natural products to do their job. Gradually limiting the drugs she was prescribed, and she cleans her house, and her own body without chemical compounds.

Here is a testimony that we just got today to share from Miracle 2 group
JETTY RABELER'S STORY:

I was introduced to the Miracle products when a friend offered to help clean
our cabin before we were to have guests staying there. Being out in nature
the cabin constantly has spiders and crawly creatures.

Due to special sensitivities of the coming guests normal chemicals could not
be used. My friend said "don't worry" and came and cleaned with, and then
sprayed the baseboards and corners with, a mixture of the Miracle Soap. Lo,
and behold, it was at least 5 weeks before we saw any sign of a spider or
crawly creature.

Before they were back within days!!!

She also left me with a bottle of the Miracle Skin Moisturizer. That night I
put it on my cracked heel which had not been healing.

The next morning my heel was fine. So I ordered four products: the Miracle
soap, the Neutralizer, the gel neutralizer, and the skin moisturizer.

After starting to use them I noticed so much difference that I've turned to
using them exclusively. I brush my teeth with a drop of the diluted soap, and
then with the gel.

My teeth feel just like when the dentist is finished cleaning them. After gum
surgery I rinsed my mouth with the Neutralizer immediately -- and the tissues
healed overnight (when the doctor said it would take a week).

Using the diluted Miracle soap in the shower has made my skin feel wonderful
-- and has gotten rid of my flaky dry skin!!!

And washing my hair with the soap makes it very soft and shiny.

I add a teaspoon of the Neutralizer to a glass of water two times a day and
just seem to feel better from it. What visibly has happened is that
immediately two warts I've had for a very long time have started to
disappear, and now are nearly gone. Even my age spots are lightening!!!

Also, after a long day of working outside I was left with three blisters on
my thumb and first finger. I was afraid to pop them for fear of infection,
but also knew I couldn't work with them that way. I plastered them with the
Miracle Gel Neutralizer and went to bed. The next morning there was no sign
of the blisters!!! That's a miracle!!!

I'm a massage therapist so healthy hands are important.

Many of my clients have benefited from the Miracle products too. One client
had painful shingles. I let her use some of the Skin moisturizer and
overnight her shingles stopped itching or hurting, and dried up, and haven't
come back.

She's now sold on the Miracle product line. Another client using the products
has had her hemorrhoids shrink. Amazing stuff!!! I do thank God for them and
highly recommend the Miracle products!!!

Jetty Rabeler

Mel and I know a few people that are taking the FLAXSEED OIL and COTTAGE cheese along with the Miracle 2..products, and are getting greater results. Mel takes his flaxseed oil daily. I take mine, but a little less..because of the fat, which I have to be so extra careful of..But know I'm still benefiting. And I still once in a while use the oil as a hair oil-treatment. And the coconut oil is excellent too. In fact I am due to do another one this month. Then I shampoo twice a week in the Miracle 2 moisturizer soap.


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Re: I want to do a liver clense ????

glogan
 

Use Pau d'Arco tea it will help to fight the cancer in the liver..........
do you know if you have cancer in any other area as they say that liver
cancer is usually secondary, I have a friend here in Canada that has Liver
cancer and his doctor told him that he has cancer someplace else as well but
they can't find it........another friend has cancer in the liver but he also
has it in the lungs, he uses Pau d'Arco tea and also Flaxseed Oil and
Cottage Cheese.......he feels confident that both of these alternatives are
helping him. He will not allow them to do a biopsy nor will he take chemo
or radiation.

Good luck

Gerry Logan

----- Original Message -----
From: Alan Nongkhai <alan_nk@...>
To: <FlaxSeedOil2@...>
Sent: March 18, 2003 9:48 PM
Subject: [FlaxSeedOil2] I want to do a liver clense ????



Hi all , I need to apoligise to many kind persond that answered my cal for
help about 6 months ago ,my address then being <apatter1>. I have since
been
fro Thailand to Australia seking help fom my advanced ( now) liver cancer
.
My mails got lost in the changes of computors and travelling.
I was particulary interested in "Mels" Rolling Stone Project as I would
like to do a liver clense but in some reciepies it advises against a
clense
if ill . well I have been on the full Budwig diet 50 ml a day about 24 Gms
Vit C and a stack of other Vitimins and have steadily gotten worse . my
liver is lie s piece of bone in places and is enlarging to my stomache .
I
am also m=now taking some "sectert herbs and spices " from Laos that has
reportedly cured many cancer victims .
I answered a lot of mails concerning my problem but afraid I probably
missed
the replys. If any body has any suggestions about a liver cancer when it
gets to be this problem I surley would like to read it

Best Regards from
Alan Patterson
THAI = LAOS = EXPAT SERVICES Co Ltd.
Postal address... 1133 Kondgee Uthit .Nong Khai
Thailand 43000

alan_nk@...











-----Original Message-----
From: Cliff Beckwith [mailto:cliffb865@...]
Sent: Tuesday, March 18, 2003 9:48 PM
To: FlaxSeedOil2@...
Subject: `Re: [FlaxSeedOil2] clinic in Zion, Illinois


Hi Rose,

Thanks for that input. I am glad to know that conerning The Cancer
Treatment Centers of America. The Gerson treatment doesn't use the sulfur
based proteins either. I do not know the Gerson degree of success but I
believe it is less than Dr. Budwig was able to achieve.

However, I wouldn't touch the Flaxseed oil without the sulfur based
proeteins with a ten foot pole as the old saying goes, unless the amouint
of
Flaxseed oil used would be no more than a tablespoon and that much is not
enough to fight serious cancer.

Dr. Budwig says that the use of the oil without the sulfur based proteins
may have "the opposite effect".

My Oncologist thinks somewhat like the Cancer treatment Centers of America
I
believe, except she would not suggest the Flax Oil without the sulfur
based
proteins and is coming closer to Dr. Budwig's protocol as she sees it
working.

My whole quarrel with what is happening in the Americas is that we will
not
experiment with what Dr. Budwig has found to work because it would greatly
damage our Pharmaceutical Industry. If they would and doctors would go
along with it we would enjoy the sunshine on some beach instead of at the
computer.

Cliff

----- Original Message -----
From: "Rose Bowman" <rosiebowman@...>
To: <FlaxSeedOil2@...>
Sent: Tuesday, March 18, 2003 9:32 AM
Subject: [FlaxSeedOil2] clinic in Zion, Illinois



Regarding Cancer Treatment Centers of America and the
connection to the FO/CC protocol...

Their approach is to use "restrained" chemo or
radiation to get cancer under control, then lots and
lots of good nutrition, herbs, and other alternatives
to heal the body. They do indeed strongly acknowledge
the anti-cancer benefits of flax oil and recommend it
as part of the nutritional healing program. However,
they don't advocate the sulpherated proteins. It
seems that the Budwig diet is one of the few that
stresses this combination.

Rose Bowman



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Re: clinic in Zion/Studies

Mike & Jane
 

Hi Peter,

Dietitian Jane and I always try to keep up on all the studies and I have yet to see any studies that say that flax oil promotes cell growth cancer. I know there is concern over phytoestrogens and prostate & breast cancer - but that not been proven, and I think the people here show that its not true.

Could you provide me some links to this information, I'd really like to review it.


Respectfully
Mike


EDTA

Alan Nongkhai
 

Hello all ,,I just recieved this message from a friend whos mate hasd sent
this E Mail to him and he passed it on . doess anybody have any info on this
. IT IS A GENUINE CASE !

He was
about to have his latest and worst op when they cancelled it saying the
tumour had disappeared. Rob had been self dosing (of course) with EDTA
(Ethylene Diamine Tetra Acetic Acid). It's a chealating agent for
decontaminatiom from nuclear fallout. It latches on to heavy metals and
lets you piss them out.
Seems to have sorted Rob out anyway. It's good there are some winners.

Best Regards from
Alan Patterson
1133/6 Tannon Gow Warrawot
Nongkhai
Thailand 43000
Phone 66 042 421223

NEW E MAIL < alan_nk@...>


Re: Digest Number 689

 

Liver =
Milk thistle, dandelion and a Native American Indian herb tea blend
sometimes called Essiac. (Burdock, slipper elm, sheep's sorrel and Turkish
rhubarb root).
mjh

In a message dated 3/19/03 4:11:28 AM Eastern Standard Time,
FlaxSeedOil2@... writes:

From: "Alan Nongkhai" <alan_nk@...>
Subject: I want to do a liver clense ????


Hi all , I need to apoligise to many kind persond that answered my cal for
help about 6 months ago ,my address then being <apatter1>. I have since
been
fro Thailand to Australia seking help fom my advanced ( now) liver cancer .
My mails got lost in the changes of computors and travelling.
I was particulary interested in "Mels" Rolling Stone Project as I would
like to do a liver clense but in some reciepies it advises against a clense
if ill . well I have been on the full Budwig diet 50 ml a day about 24 Gms
Vit C and a stack of other Vitimins and have steadily gotten worse . my
liver is lie s piece of bone in places and is enlarging to my stomache . I
am also m=now taking some "sectert herbs and spices " from Laos that has
reportedly cured many cancer victims .
I answered a lot of mails concerning my problem but afraid I probably
missed
the replys. If any body has any suggestions about a liver cancer when it
gets to be this problem I surley would like to read it

Best Regards from
Alan Patterson
THAI = LAOS = EXPAT SERVICES Co Ltd.
Postal address¡­¡­. 1133 Kondgee Uthit .Nong Khai
Thailand 43000

alan_nk@...


[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]


(No subject)

 

I've forwarded to Brenda Cobb, (and pralt-discuss) as she is a believer in
removing toxins from one's system.
Thanks
Ramon
xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx


Subj: [FlaxSeedOil2] GOOD STORY CLIFF?
Date: 3/19/2003 10:17:59 AM Eastern Standard Time
From: <A href="mailto:mrjau@...">mrjau@...</A>
Reply-to: <A href="mailto:FlaxSeedOil2@...">FlaxSeedOil2@...</A>
To: <A href="mailto:Undisclosed-Recipient:;">Undisclosed-Recipient:;</A>
Sent from the Internet (Details)



Nancy O'Loughlin Keelan: This is the kind of good reports we need about our
body's healing with the natural things GOD put on Earth for man to use. If
anyone of you also need more stories, that are coming in daily of people
using other remedies., go to my other group at
miracle2bodyhousecleaning_subscribe@...? We talk about cleanings
the outside and inside the body, home, and environment, to rid of the
un-needed toxins and poisons the body carries, that cause us illness of all
kinds. WE believe that gradually the doctor will take you off the
medications, that he has you on. Right now we have a woman, using the Miracle
2, with great results, and her doctor is wanting to know more now about the
products, because he is so amazed at her turn-around-condition. We hope she
will soon testify. She is waiting on GOD to tell her when the time is right.,
But this woman really has a history of illness that keeps her in a hospital
more than home. and LATELY LESS IN THE HOSPITAL..why? BECAUSE SHE IS GETTING
RID OF THE TOXIC-POISONS, AND LETTING THE BODY HEAL ITSELF. Patients of JOB
and not giving up is the first main step..allowing the natural products to do
their job. Gradually limiting the drugs she was prescribed, and she cleans
her house, and her own body without chemical compounds.

Here is a testimony that we just got today to share from Miracle 2 group
JETTY RABELER'S STORY:

I was introduced to the Miracle products when a friend offered to help clean
our cabin before we were to have guests staying there. Being out in nature
the cabin constantly has spiders and crawly creatures.

Due to special sensitivities of the coming guests normal chemicals could not
be used. My friend said "don't worry" and came and cleaned with, and then
sprayed the baseboards and corners with, a mixture of the Miracle Soap.? Lo,
and behold, it was at least 5 weeks before we saw any sign of a spider or
crawly creature.

Before they were back within days!!!

She also left me with a bottle of the Miracle Skin Moisturizer. That night I
put it on my cracked heel which had not been healing.

The next morning my heel was fine. So I ordered four products: the Miracle
soap, the Neutralizer, the gel neutralizer, and the skin moisturizer.

After starting to use them I noticed so much difference that I've turned to
using them exclusively. I brush my teeth with a drop of the diluted soap, and

then with the gel.

My teeth feel just like when the dentist is finished cleaning them. After gum

surgery I rinsed my mouth with the Neutralizer immediately -- and the tissues

healed overnight (when the doctor said it would take a week).

Using the diluted Miracle soap in the shower has made my skin feel wonderful
-- and has gotten rid of my flaky dry skin!!!

And washing my hair with the soap makes it very soft and shiny.

I add a teaspoon of the Neutralizer to a glass of water two times a day and
just seem to feel better from it. What visibly has happened is that
immediately two warts I've had for a very long time have started to
disappear, and now are nearly gone.? Even my age spots are lightening!!!

Also, after a long day of working outside I was left with three blisters on
my thumb and first finger. I was afraid to pop them for fear of infection,
but also knew I couldn't work with them that way. I plastered them with the
Miracle Gel Neutralizer and went to bed. The next morning there was no sign
of the blisters!!! That's a miracle!!!

I'm a massage therapist so healthy hands are important.

Many of my clients have benefited from the Miracle products too. One client
had painful shingles. I let her use some of the Skin moisturizer and
overnight her shingles stopped itching or hurting, and dried up, and haven't
come back.

She's now sold on the Miracle product line. Another client using the products

has had her hemorrhoids shrink. Amazing stuff!!! I do thank God for them and
highly recommend the Miracle products!!!

Jetty Rabeler

Mel and I know a few people that are taking the FLAXSEED OIL and COTTAGE
cheese along with the Miracle 2..products, and are getting greater results.
Mel takes his flaxseed oil daily. I take mine, but a little less..because of
the fat, which I have to be so extra careful of..But know I'm still
benefiting. And I still once in a while use the oil as a hair oil-treatment.
And the coconut oil is excellent too. In fact I am due to do another one this
month. Then I shampoo twice a week in the Miracle 2 moisturizer soap.



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PROSTATE INFLAMMATION / BLADDER NOT EMPTYING

 

Besides us two, I wonder how many of us out there mirror us with same like
symptoms.
After emptying one bottle and no improvement with Peenuts, Dr. Wheeler
suggested "order another bottle, sometimes it takes more than one."
After ingesting 1.5 bottle of Epilobium (the eye dropper had a hole so it
evaporated, Art was kind to replace @ no charge) my current dribbling
started, coincidence? I say the ethanol did it , but then again, who am I?
My bladder does not empty. (since '99) My sex life has been suffering.
I can go for three hrs (couldn't one year ago) w/o any urinary urgencies, and
as soon as I have water or red wine (I thought red was easier on the prostate
than white?) it's every ten mnts to the water closet. (john, urinal, call it
what you will) push below navel and dribble some more. I've taken: TEAS:
pau-d-arco, green tea, peppermint, chamomile. Prelief, prostate massages w/o
drainage, SawPalmetto and its companions, cranberries (right, great for uti's
(urinary tract infections) but hell on urgencies. Quercetin, minerals, E,C,
magnesium citrate, cod liver oil softgels, digestive enzimes, and it's like
taking placebos, nothing is making a dent. THANKFUL FOR NOT HAVING PCA, YET.
FOCCFS is taken daily, our dog gets two tsp. in his dry food, by the way his
9th year rabies, heartworm checkup came in clean, my inability to stop his
shedding is frustrating. ( he gets no canned food )
I'll be a satisfied, happy mortal when my bladder empties first time around.
Peace & good health throughout the world.
Paz & buena salud mundial
Ramon

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Subj: Re: [pralt-discuss] Peenuts?
Date: 3/18/2003 8:41:09 PM Eastern Standard Time
From: <A href="mailto:ehale2@...">ehale2@...</A>
Reply-to: <A href="mailto:pralt-discuss@...">pralt-discuss@...</A>

I tried three or four bottles of? PEENUTS and found them to be of no value.
I found the same thing with Epilobrium.?? I? have to assume that some guys
have had good results with one or the other of them or they would be getting
slammed a lot here.
?? I am still searching for the cure for prostatitus as are most of us.?? I
can think of only one guy who said he was cured and left the list.? I still
wonder what he did or if? he in fact was a sufferer like us.? Is there
really any one out there who has gotten restored pressure enought to reach
up the wall, doesn't have night visits, doesn't have urgencies and can get
and sustain an erection like the old days??? I don't think that the fso/cc
is going to do that for us but I still take it and about 20 supplements a
day and drink lots of water and eat lots of seeds, fruits and vegetables and
leave red meat mostly alone.? Not much wine or beer either and no coffee.? I
feel great, excercise regularly? and except for the prostatitis thing, can
find no wrong with my life and the universe in general.

If all I have wrong is this minor prostate problem,? I? must consider myself
a very fortunate person indeed

Ed in Tampa Bay



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Nancy Keelan

Cliff Beckwith
 

Hi All,

Below is a message just received from Nancy Keelan. Nancy is one of the
daughters of a good friend who was the executive officer of the LCI Gunboat
on which I served in WW II.

Nancy is a registered nurse. Some time back her father told me that she had
two rare, aggressive kinds of cancer and wanted me to send her the info on
Flaxseed Oil and Cottage cheese.

From time to time we are asked whether or not it is helpful to use the
Flaxseed Oil in connection with chemo and radiation.

This communication may be of interest and help.

Cliff


Dear Cliff,
This letter is long overdue. My father I hope has kept you updated on my
condition. I am doing well 3 month post-chemo and radiation. I felt I had
to do traditional medicine as well as not traditional being the mother of
8-10 and 12 year old children. I wish I had the guts to say no to the
destructive treatments but I had to do what I did. I do believe in the
merits of flax oil and try to encourage all my friends to use it. It seems
there are more and more young people 38-48 being diagnosed with cancer it is
becoming an epidemic.
I continue to take between 2 and 3 tablespoons a day mixed either with
yogurt or cottage cheese, yogurt being my preference. I listened to your
tape and realize cottage cheese is the preferred protein to mix the flax
oil with but I find yogurt goes down much easier.
I have to say the only problems I have are directly related to the radiation
and chemotherapy invading my bone marrow. I had continued the flax oil
throughout all my treatments and I believe the doctors were amazed at how
well my blood counts continued throughout my treatments. I never missed a
treatment and never required epogen to boost my counts.
I can only hope that by continuing my flax oil I will remain disease free.
An incidential benefit I believe has come to our son Patrick who has some
learning disabilities. He had been on Ritalin for one year after much
pressure from the school and his teachers. After one year we took him off
Ritalin and started the Flax Oil. Patrick is now consistently bringing home
90's in every subject, and the teachers are not complaining about his
inattention. Quite remarkable I feel.
I hope this letter finds you well. I thank you for all the information you
have sent to me and my dad. My father looks great, I believe in part to the
flax oil.
I also give a teaspoon to our dog and her coat is beautiful.
Thank you again for all your hard work, always trying
to help people, I really admire you.
Nancy O'Loughlin Keelan



Dear Cliff,
This letter is long overdue. My father I hope has kept you updated on my
condition. I am doing well 3 month post-chemo and radiation. I felt I had
to do traditional medicine as well as not traditional being the mother of an
8-10 and 12 year old children. I wish I had the guts to say no to the
destructive treatments but I had to do what I did. I do believe in the
merits of flax oil and try to encourage all my friends to use it. It seems
there are more and more young people 38-48 being diagnosed with cancer it is
becoming an epidemic.
I continue to take between 2 and 3 tablespoons a day mixed either with
yogurt or cottage cheese, yogurt being my preference. I listened to your
tape and realize cottage cheese is the preferred protein to mix the flax
oil with but I find yogurt goes down much easier.
I have to say the only problems I have are directly related to the radiation
and chemotherapy invading my bone marrow. I had continued the flax oil
throughout all my treatments and I believe the doctors were amazed at how
well my blood counts continued throughout my treatments. I never missed a
treatment and never required epogen to boost my counts.
I can only hope that by continuing my flax oil I will remain disease free.
An incidential benefit I believe has come to our son Patrick who has some
learning disabilities. He had been on Ritalin for one year after much
pressure from the school and his teachers. After one year we took him off
Ritalin and started the Flax Oil. Patrick is now consistently bringing home
90's in every subject, and the teachers are not complaining about his
inattention. Quite remarkable I feel.
I hope this letter finds you well. I thank you for all the information you
have sent to me and my dad. My father looks great, I believe in part to the
flax oil.
I also give a teaspoon to our dog and her coat is beautiful.
Thank you again for all your hard work.

Nancy O'Loughlin Keelan


I want to do a liver clense ????

Alan Nongkhai
 

Hi all , I need to apoligise to many kind persond that answered my cal for
help about 6 months ago ,my address then being <apatter1>. I have since been
fro Thailand to Australia seking help fom my advanced ( now) liver cancer .
My mails got lost in the changes of computors and travelling.
I was particulary interested in "Mels" Rolling Stone Project as I would
like to do a liver clense but in some reciepies it advises against a clense
if ill . well I have been on the full Budwig diet 50 ml a day about 24 Gms
Vit C and a stack of other Vitimins and have steadily gotten worse . my
liver is lie s piece of bone in places and is enlarging to my stomache . I
am also m=now taking some "sectert herbs and spices " from Laos that has
reportedly cured many cancer victims .
I answered a lot of mails concerning my problem but afraid I probably missed
the replys. If any body has any suggestions about a liver cancer when it
gets to be this problem I surley would like to read it

Best Regards from
Alan Patterson
THAI = LAOS = EXPAT SERVICES Co Ltd.
Postal address. 1133 Kondgee Uthit .Nong Khai
Thailand 43000

alan_nk@...

-----Original Message-----
From: Cliff Beckwith [mailto:cliffb865@...]
Sent: Tuesday, March 18, 2003 9:48 PM
To: FlaxSeedOil2@...
Subject: `Re: [FlaxSeedOil2] clinic in Zion, Illinois


Hi Rose,

Thanks for that input. I am glad to know that conerning The Cancer
Treatment Centers of America. The Gerson treatment doesn't use the sulfur
based proteins either. I do not know the Gerson degree of success but I
believe it is less than Dr. Budwig was able to achieve.

However, I wouldn't touch the Flaxseed oil without the sulfur based
proeteins with a ten foot pole as the old saying goes, unless the amouint of
Flaxseed oil used would be no more than a tablespoon and that much is not
enough to fight serious cancer.

Dr. Budwig says that the use of the oil without the sulfur based proteins
may have "the opposite effect".

My Oncologist thinks somewhat like the Cancer treatment Centers of America I
believe, except she would not suggest the Flax Oil without the sulfur based
proteins and is coming closer to Dr. Budwig's protocol as she sees it
working.

My whole quarrel with what is happening in the Americas is that we will not
experiment with what Dr. Budwig has found to work because it would greatly
damage our Pharmaceutical Industry. If they would and doctors would go
along with it we would enjoy the sunshine on some beach instead of at the
computer.

Cliff

----- Original Message -----
From: "Rose Bowman" <rosiebowman@...>
To: <FlaxSeedOil2@...>
Sent: Tuesday, March 18, 2003 9:32 AM
Subject: [FlaxSeedOil2] clinic in Zion, Illinois



Regarding Cancer Treatment Centers of America and the
connection to the FO/CC protocol...

Their approach is to use "restrained" chemo or
radiation to get cancer under control, then lots and
lots of good nutrition, herbs, and other alternatives
to heal the body. They do indeed strongly acknowledge
the anti-cancer benefits of flax oil and recommend it
as part of the nutritional healing program. However,
they don't advocate the sulpherated proteins. It
seems that the Budwig diet is one of the few that
stresses this combination.

Rose Bowman



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AVODART

 

What is AVODART?
Thanks
Ramon

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Subj: Re: [FlaxSeedOil2] BLADDER NOT EMPTYING - URGENCIES - TRIALS
Date: 3/17/2003 7:07:27 PM Eastern Standard Time
From: "H&M Feld" <ariel@...>
To: <FlaxSeedOil2@...>
Reply-To: FlaxSeedOil2@...
Sent from the Internet (Details)

Ramon,
Got it backwards....................Avodart
Harry

----- Original Message -----
From: "H&M Feld" <ariel@...>
To: <FlaxSeedOil2@...>
Sent: Monday, March 17, 2003 6:27 PM
Subject: Re: [FlaxSeedOil2] BLADDER NOT EMPTYING - URGENCIES - TRIALS

Ramon,
Have you looked into giving Adovart a try?
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From: <sansrx@...>
To: <pralt-discuss@...>
Cc: <FlaxseedOil2@...>
Sent: Monday, March 17, 2003 5:22 PM
Subject: [FlaxSeedOil2] BLADDER NOT EMPTYING - URGENCIES - TRIALS



Dear Group:

Got booted out from a BPH clinical trial.
Wouldn't agree to a biopsy.
Took their study medication for 15 days w/o any side effects,
suspecting I belonged to the placebo group.
The Albumin came in @ 5.0. (has always been below 4.5)
PSA: 6.4 02/26/'03; 6.9 12/23/'02; 12.9 8/27/'02;
8.3 4/3/'02.
TESTOSTERONE: 567
All others within range.
The bladder ultrasound showed urine retention two minutes after voiding
185 on the uroflow scale.
It's as if time has stood still. Same symptoms dating back to '99.
FOFSCC is taken daily.
Stay well
Ramon


ADOVART

 

What is ADOVART?
Thanks
Ramon


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Subj: Re: [FlaxSeedOil2] BLADDER NOT EMPTYING - URGENCIES - TRIALS
Date: 3/17/2003 6:27:50 PM Eastern Standard Time
From: "H&M Feld" <ariel@...>
To: <FlaxSeedOil2@...>
Reply-To: FlaxSeedOil2@...
Sent from the Internet (Details)


Ramon,
Have you looked into giving Adovart a try?

----- Original Message -----
From: <sansrx@...>
To: <pralt-discuss@...>
Cc: <FlaxseedOil2@...>
Sent: Monday, March 17, 2003 5:22 PM
Subject: [FlaxSeedOil2] BLADDER NOT EMPTYING - URGENCIES - TRIALS



Dear Group:

Got booted out from a BPH clinical trial.
Wouldn't agree to a biopsy.
Took their study medication for 15 days w/o any side effects,
suspecting I belonged to the placebo group.
The Albumin came in @ 5.0. (has always been below 4.5)
PSA: 6.4 02/26/'03; 6.9 12/23/'02; 12.9 8/27/'02;
8.3 4/3/'02.
TESTOSTERONE: 567
All others within range.
The bladder ultrasound showed urine retention two minutes after voiding
185 on the uroflow scale.
It's as if time has stood still. Same symptoms dating back to '99.
FOFSCC is taken daily.
Stay well
Ramon


FLAXSEEDS FRESHLY GROUND OR STORED?

 

Do I grind as needed or make a batch and store in the fridge
for future use?
Which is best, to achieve the most benefit?
I would assume freshly ground is always best.
Thanks
Ramon


cell phones

Jerry Mittelman
 

AN ANTONIO (Reuters Health) - When a hospital asks you to shut off your cell phone, you better listen. The electromagnetic energy emitted by cell phones may be strong enough to interfere with mechanical ventilators found in intensive care units, to the point where the machine even shuts down, Harvard researchers reported here.

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