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Re: Whats Missing in Oil
mike martin
开云体育John :
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That was an excellent post. But do remember that
you are definitely missing something when using Flax Seed Oil - primarily
Lignans. The Lignans contain a very important part of the benefits of Flax Seed
- which SDG's. The SDG's have been proven to lower Bad Cholesterol in your
blood, which helps fight heart disease. I like the combination approach you have
chosen because it does give you the best of both worlds,? just make sure
your getting enough. Your going to need to 2 to 3 tablespoons to expect to
benefit from the seeds.
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Re: floyd
I'm just returning this post to show it's download. This is a nuisance
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virus. Please scan with Norton before resending. Truthfully about every other post is showing this - I think several may need to scan. Thank you. BonnieB In a message dated 11/3/2001 8:53:50 PM Eastern Standard Time,
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Re: FSO/CC as prevention
mike martin
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Re: Flaseed turns like butter?
Miz Judy & Mel
开云体育So then it is like centrifugic-forces which change
, by seperating two or three substancearound, as like cream from milk. Now in
flaxseed it is oil from what?
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Re: Flaseed turns like butter?
John Polifronio
开云体育Erasmus, in his books on oils, was my source concerning the
advisibility of handling flax oil gently.? He said to not shake the oil too
much.? I don't think he's concerned with "thickness," but with actual
damage to the nutritional qualities of this extremely fragile oil.
It's interesting to note, in this connection, that people that
use powdered Whey protein products, have recently been advised to blend it into
their drinks without rough handling, or at high speed in their electrical
blenders, as that might degrade the protein.
When I was a raw milk drinker, I remember hearing that the
best carton of milk you could drink, was one that you got when you went directly
to the factory where the milk was first processed into containers, and drank it
immediately.
The closer you are to your supplier, the better.
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Re: FSO/CC as prevention
John Polifronio
开云体育Flax oil, I suspect, can give us something that ground seed
cannot, much as extraction of juices from carrots, celery, etc., can provide a
more concentrated and potent assist against illness and loss of vitality.?
But it's clear that the whole seed provides elements that may, in the long run,
be as important in their own way, as the qualities of the pure oil.
I? approach this problem by using them both.? I put
the oil on some foods, and the freshly ground seed on other foods.
The distinct advantages with grinding your own seed (I never
use packaged flax "meal"), is that the problem of possible rancidity is
diminished, the seed is less expensive, and, prior to being ground, lasts
indefinitely.
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Re: FSO/CC as prevention
开云体育On the other hand, I have not seen any scientific
studies PROVING that ground flaxseeds are superior to the oil.??In
fact, I hope you will?provide us with such scientific studies where
?the seed were simultaneously tested along with the oil and the seeds won
out before continuing to recommend ?your unproven and
untested?theories.? As to grinding flaxseeds being less of a hassle
than using flaxseed oil... NO WAY!!!
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NHY
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Re: Hey you guys.....
Miz Judy & Mel
开云体育I just sent you a private letter..hope it will help
you out too.
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Re: Call Barleans
Joel Agee
Floyd,
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Now I understand.? This is? the problem with email -- it's as casual as speech, but without body language, so it's easy to miss subtle cues. Best wishes,
Floyd Dickinson wrote: ?joel?You are absolutely correct .? my opologies...? actually was intended as a pun ... really ... remember the Clinton thingy on the economy "it's the money stupid"? ?? |
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Thanks for your patients too
Miz Judy & Mel
开云体育Nothing is STUPID..and I for one sort of understood
where you were coming from..we accept your apologies..
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I went a little ahead here on the list to try to
help us all out with maybe getting questions answered. I wrote a nice letter to
Barleans to one of the head-persons, and asked them to kindly get back with me,
so I can post what they have to say to us all. I figure that in order for us to
learn we go to the Horse..front-end and stay away from that back drafty door. (
get my drift?
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As long as Cliff is away a few days, we will need
to try all we can now to help each other. I am sure he will be so proud of us
when he sees how well we are handling the group. Also lets not forget to thank
him for starting this new group 2..and that we can keep it from getting out of
hand like group one was getting.And if you can please encourage the good folks
over there to join us here. Some of us are staying on both for awhile, just so
neither group gets to out of control.Remember Flaxseed one, don't have an list
owner. He up and left us without evening saying SO long..I'm out of here. And he
will not answer anybody's letters anyway. This is not a nice way to run a group.
We are so proud of the New list 2 now..and so far it is running smoothly.Thanks
to all of you.
Nashville,Ohio Genealogy Bereavement of a Lost Love One My Cancer Challenge Ordeal NaturalWellBeing-subscribe@... mrjau@... Owner Miz Judy & Mel FlaxSeedOil2-subscribe@... Owner: Cliff Beckwith: spinner@... Prophecy of End Times. Cliff Beckwith |
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Re: Call Barleans
MMWilson
开云体育Looks like everyone is sold on Barleans.? Lets
all e mail our concerns and questions directly to them. Pull up Barleans and
choose whomever you like to e mail?from their list of employees. We might
get an answer.? More importantly we might get the oil without damage.?
MM
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Re: Call Barleans
Floyd Dickinson
开云体育joel
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You are absolutely correct .? my
opologies...? actually was intended as a pun ... really ... remember the
Clinton thingy on the economy "it's the money stupid"? ???
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Re: Whats Missing in Oil
In a message dated 11/3/01 1:55:42 PM Pacific Standard Time,
mdmartin57@... writes: << going to need to 2 to 3 tablespoons to expect to benefit from the seeds. >> Mike...I've been told by two health food store "nutritionists" that flax seeds taken 3 tbsps. a day in cereal, juice, or ? (that is the ground seeds...flax meal.) has been proven to lower psa's. I've seen no analytical studies, so who knows? What's your educated opinion? Stuart |
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Re: Call Barleans
Joel Agee
Floyd,
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Why call people stupid?? Let's keep the? conversation civil
and friendly.
Floyd Dickinson wrote: ?It's the money and cost of shipping stupid. weigh that against the cost of unopened, fresh pressed oil so it is probably of no consequence anyway.?floyd?Many products are moved on REFRIGERATED trailers.? I don't understand why Barlean's does not use them.? |
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Re: Call Barleans
Floyd Dickinson
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Re: Call Barleans
Joel Agee
Somewhere in the archives is a recent post of mine ( maybe 3 wks or a month
ago) in which I forwarded a letter from Barlean's tothe list.? They
told me about a temperature test they had done on their FS oil in which
they proved to their satisfaction that the onopened botles are not degraded
by prolonged exposure to moderate temperatures.? (I don't know about
100 degrees, though.? It would be good to ask? them about that
specifically.? They are very forthcoming and helpful.)
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Joel John Polifronio wrote: Not just prolonged exposure to heat, but even prolonged rough handling of the oil, continued shaking of the container can degrade flax oil.There is no excuse for not shipping the flax oil in refrigerated trucks.? Refrigeration is expensive.? But it seems to me that 99% of the people that buy flax oil from Barleans and other fine suppliers, would be willing to pay an extra 50 cents to have their oil refrigerated throughout the cycle from the original source, in transit, and in the markets.I've also been using hemp oil from Spectrum, now that it's organic.? Erasmus recommends its use after a long period on flax oil, because, as he says, flax is so high in Om 3s, that it can actually cause an imbalance.? Hemp oil, has a ratio of 3 parts Om 6 to 1 part Om 3, if my memory is correct.? Not ideal, but close to it.I buy an 8 oz container of hemp oil, and an 8 oz container of flax, put them both in the freezer, and alternate my use of them, which I'm assuming gives approximately a ratio of 2 parts Om6 to 1 part Om 3, and that's close enough to ideal for me. |
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Re: Lets get on to Barleans
mike martin
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Miz Judy & Mel
开云体育Best Regards,?? Lorenzo
If you have pain -Join the Caveman list and eat like our ancestors.Diet is very good..and one has got to learn at adjust to foods you don't like to eat sometimes. Now lets compare..give us a list of caveman foods, and a list of none-caveman foods..and also in the prep/of each one..Boil it down to the vitamins cooked and uncooked methods. Thanks Because for new-comers I'm sure we've already lost them..and I'm not to far behind. I've heard on list pros/con to caveman foods..so I need to read something simple to understand what kind of diet I want besides what I'm already eating daily. We around here love raw, salads, over those with cooked foods in them. But my daughter Shilah fixed us a good chicken, Mac/salad with a tangy-taste of vinegar-mustard sauce the other night and it was delicious. But we wouldn't want this salad every day. I will put the recipe in my new cook book that I will be starting to work on now next week. I have pages to redo, and then have put into print.So if anyone now has anything they would like to add to my intro..or to an open page, please do so, if only it is related to Health and the way you've learned to eat for your own benefit. Keep in mind, that not everyone of us is able to eat the same kids of foods, because of stomach problems, and etc..Medications can also cause foods to not digest properly. Some pills, and foods do not mix. AND no my cookbook isn't just on diet foods, and etc..but recipes handed down from many generations..good or bad for you they will be in the book, and you'll be your own judge.But I will touch down on some difference as I work along.And I never use what I call FAKE butter in my recipes..I do not wish plastic in my foods either.And am very fussy about cooking oil and my cooking utensils too..( whenever I have to use some ). Nashville,Ohio Genealogy Bereavement of a Lost Love One My Cancer Challenge Ordeal NaturalWellBeing-subscribe@... mrjau@... Owner Miz Judy & Mel FlaxSeedOil2-subscribe@... Owner: Cliff Beckwith: spinner@... Prophecy of End Times. Cliff Beckwith |
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Lets get on to Barleans
Miz Judy & Mel
开云体育Many products are moved
on?REFRIGERATED?trailers.??I don't understand why Barlean's
does not use them.?? ( then we should all phone or
write Barleans and protest..but also show them proff if they so need
it.)
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Nashville,Ohio Genealogy Bereavement of a Lost Love One My Cancer Challenge Ordeal NaturalWellBeing-subscribe@... mrjau@... Owner Miz Judy & Mel FlaxSeedOil2-subscribe@... Owner: Cliff Beckwith: spinner@... Prophecy of End Times. Cliff Beckwith |
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