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Re: Clinical trial?? For Diane.

Free Minded
 

Flo,

Try to serve it to him as a musli for breakfast. It is quite good and good for his health (that he does not have to know).

All the luck in the world.

Diane









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To: FlaxSeedOil2@...
Subject: [FlaxSeedOil2] Re: Clinical trial?? For Diane.
Date: Mon, 16 Aug 2004 00:28:28 -0000

Thanks Diane:
That is a good point. I will keep trying to get him on the flaxseed
oil and to eat mostly vegetables. It would be a start anyway.I will
keep you posted. Although I'm sure the doctors will tell him not to
change his diet.(he sees them daily because of the clinical trail)
They are on him like flys on sh.t. All I can do is try. Wish me luck.
Thanks again.
Flo



--- In FlaxSeedOil2@..., "Free Minded"
<freeminded52@h...> wrote:
Flo,

Did you explain to him that this is FOOD, only food and he should
start
eating properly right away. He cannot wait, it takes a while for
food to
help and from what I can understand, it is better to start it
right away.

If you check it, you don't wait to clean a wound as it would be
more
infected if you do, well for the diet it is about the same. You
do it as
fast as possible to maximize your chances.

Diane









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To: FlaxSeedOil2@...
Subject: [FlaxSeedOil2] Clinical trial??
Date: Sun, 15 Aug 2004 06:49:22 -0000

Hi Group:
A very close friend of ours has been fighting pc for the last
thirteen years. Recently he developed a large lump on his upper arm
and when they did a biopsy, it showed that it was cancer. He has
been picked for a new clinical trail of a new drug that is supposed
to stop the cancer cells from dividing. He has to be on this drug
for twenty-eight days. Because of the drug they did all kinds of
tests and found cancer in his liver and lymph nodes as well. Before
all this happened we tryed to talk him into the Budwig diet, to no
avail. He told us yesterday that if the new drug doesn't work he
will try the diet.(I know people are funny that way) Anyway my
questions are, does anyone know anything about this new drug? Or
does anyone know someone that is trying this drug? If the drug
doesn't work for him will it be too late for the Budwig diet
because
of the drug? Any information would be much appreciated. Thank-you
in
advance.
Great Health to All
Flo

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Re: Seven times Nobel Prize nominee?

Catherine Coy
 

Ulla, thanks for that tidbit about Dr. Budwig's nominations(s). Did you know that a Nobel Prize cannot be awarded posthumously? Now that Dr. Budwig has passed on, there may be no opportunity for her to be given her due--at least by the Nobel Foundation. What a shame. From the Nobel site:

1.. Is it possible to nominate someone for a posthumous Nobel Prize?

No, it is not. The Statutes of the Nobel Foundation stipulate that a prize cannot be awarded posthumously, unless death has occurred after the nomination.

----- Original Message -----
From: crystalpyramid@...
To: FlaxSeedOil2@...
Sent: Sunday, August 15, 2004 12:14 PM
Subject: [FlaxSeedOil2] Re: Seven times Nobel Prize nominee?



>Coming back to the German web page you posted.
>It says near the beginning, in a letter written by Brkki Halme, Professor,
>Senator h.c., that he nominated Dr.Budwig for the Nobel Prize in 1985. So
>much for Dr.Weil's statement that the nominations don't mean much because
>anybody can nominate. Prof. Halme is not just anybody! He also runs (or is
>instrumental in) a clinic in Finland where Dr.Budwig's method is used with
>great success (I read that elsewhere)."

>Yes, that is only one of the 6 or 7 nominations usually quoted but does it
>matter? I am sure more proof of other nominees will come to light as we
>keep reading.

On a German website run by Dr. Matthias Weisser, Prof. Halme is quoted as
saying "will renominate Dr. Budwig for the Nobel Prize", so it's likely
that he did so several times... Btw I could find no reference to Prof.
Halme on the Internet so it's possible that his clinic no longer exists...

Ulla



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Re: Clinical trial?? For Diane.

 

Thanks Diane:
That is a good point. I will keep trying to get him on the flaxseed
oil and to eat mostly vegetables. It would be a start anyway.I will
keep you posted. Although I'm sure the doctors will tell him not to
change his diet.(he sees them daily because of the clinical trail)
They are on him like flys on sh.t. All I can do is try. Wish me luck.
Thanks again.
Flo



--- In FlaxSeedOil2@..., "Free Minded"
<freeminded52@h...> wrote:
Flo,

Did you explain to him that this is FOOD, only food and he should
start
eating properly right away. He cannot wait, it takes a while for
food to
help and from what I can understand, it is better to start it
right away.

If you check it, you don't wait to clean a wound as it would be
more
infected if you do, well for the diet it is about the same. You
do it as
fast as possible to maximize your chances.

Diane









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From: "flo_webber" <flo-webber@s...>
Reply-To: FlaxSeedOil2@...
To: FlaxSeedOil2@...
Subject: [FlaxSeedOil2] Clinical trial??
Date: Sun, 15 Aug 2004 06:49:22 -0000

Hi Group:
A very close friend of ours has been fighting pc for the last
thirteen years. Recently he developed a large lump on his upper arm
and when they did a biopsy, it showed that it was cancer. He has
been picked for a new clinical trail of a new drug that is supposed
to stop the cancer cells from dividing. He has to be on this drug
for twenty-eight days. Because of the drug they did all kinds of
tests and found cancer in his liver and lymph nodes as well. Before
all this happened we tryed to talk him into the Budwig diet, to no
avail. He told us yesterday that if the new drug doesn't work he
will try the diet.(I know people are funny that way) Anyway my
questions are, does anyone know anything about this new drug? Or
does anyone know someone that is trying this drug? If the drug
doesn't work for him will it be too late for the Budwig diet
because
of the drug? Any information would be much appreciated. Thank-you
in
advance.
Great Health to All
Flo

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Re: German writing style

Catherine Coy
 

I agree with Ulla...it's interesting to read her "telegram" talks and follow her conversational sentences that can be rendered even more understandable with elipses and dashes. Wilhelm, did you ever have the opportunity to hear her speak in person? And, yes, my thanks, too, for providing these translations. I forgot my manners and didn't thank you properly.

----- Original Message -----
From: crystalpyramid@...
To: FlaxSeedOil2@...
Sent: Sunday, August 15, 2004 11:55 AM
Subject: [FlaxSeedOil2] Re: German writing style


Wilhelm, first of all thanks for taking the time to provide these
translations!!!

You have beautifully summed up some of the major problems arising in
German-to-English translations.Yes, literal translation in an attempt to
catch all the nuances (good German often introduces lots of nuances and
qualifiers) is one of the major pitfalls...

And yes, well-formulated long sentences are a badge of elegance and
intelligence in German, in fact the longer (as long as you keep the logic
and syntax intact) the more elegant and pleasurable to read! One of the
most excellent "convoluted" sentence writers is famous author Thomas Mann,
I think his sentences often span half the book page or more!!! It is truly
a sign of mastering the language particularly well, and together with other
rules, I had to learn "the hard way" that in English it's simply not
considered good style to write long sentences (what a pity ;-)...
Ulla

At 10:48 15.08.04 -0700, you wrote:
>Catherine,
>blame it on my translation. In an attempt to translate as literally as
>possible, I sometimes allow myself to get caught up in her often
>convoluted way of writing. Anyone who knows German well (e.g. Ulla) knows
>what I am talking about. That is not meant in a derogatory way, it is
>proper German. Dr.Johanna Budwig was far more proficient in German and of
>course in the subject matter than I am or ever will be. This kind of
>writing is quite common in Germany, especially among academic writers. One
>sentence can be as long as 4 or 5 lines. Dr.Budwig often takes it to the
>extreme spiked with many medical terms, the combination of which is for me
>sometimes very hard to translate.
>
>I should translate these more complicated passages more loosely and not
>try to capture all the nuances exactly the way they are given. That way
>the passage would have come out like this.
>
>"The substances that are contained in the SH-group have often been used
>with varied success. This important sulfhydryl group is found in Detoxin,
>in Insulin, in Pancreatic Secretions and especially in Methionine which is
>converted to Cysteine in the body. The often reported good success with
>essential fatty acids and the significance of the often discussed
>"lipotropic effects" of these essential amino acids brought me to the
>realization that the full potential of these substances can only be
>reached when they are combined so that they can interact."
>
>Does it sound any better?
>
>Wilhelm



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Re: This one is good news. For Yang.

 

Hi Yang:
I thought I better change my answer to your question. My son is just
taking the oil, but of course with the cottage cheese and fruit. It
is now breakfast for him and his wife each day. I didn't want anyone
to think that he was just taking oil without the cottage cheese.
Thanks
Flo




--- In FlaxSeedOil2@..., "flo_webber" <flo-webber@s...>
wrote:
Hi Yang:

My son is just using the oil at this time, three tablespoons a
day.
However he told me he doesn't crave sweets anymore.

Flo

--- In FlaxSeedOil2@..., yang xu <xuyang11@y...> wrote:
Flo,

May I ask whether your son is on strict Budwig's diet
protocol or just fo/cc?

Thanks,
-yang
--- flo_webber <flo-webber@s...> wrote:

Hi group:
I just wanted to tell everyone about my son who has
arthritis in his
spine. He has suffered for the last twelve years.
Some days he can
hardly walk. His joints are so painful that it keeps
him awake at
night and to do any kind of work is almost
impossible. After he saw
how well my husband Scott was doing on the Budwig
diet. He
decided to try the flaxseed oil to see if it would
help him. He has
been on the oil for three and a half months now. He
can't believe
the difference. His pain has all but gone away, his
energy is better
than it has been for years. He is out in the yard
cutting the lawns,
painting the inside of the house. He says I just
can't believe this,
I haven't been pain free in twelve years, and I now
feel like a new
man. He has been on medication for all these years
and he is now
going to the doctor to see if he can wean off the
pills. He used to
be very pale and now he has color and looks about
ten years younger.
He also walks straighter. As far as he is concerned
there is nothing
in the world like flaxseed oil and he said that he
will take it for
the rest of his life. Being his mom I couldn't be
happier.
Thank-you Dr. Budwig you are an Angel. Even from
heaven you are
still carring on your work.
God Bless You.
Flo


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Re: What's so important about the cottage cheese?

Catherine Coy
 

That IS indeed better, Wilhelm. I guess my frustration comes from such an important discovery being rendered practically moot (other than the Internet and this discussion board) partly because of language barriers. In the meantime, thousand and thousands suffer and die. Water, water everywhere and everybody's thirsty.

----- Original Message -----
From: Wilhelm Hansen
To: FlaxSeedOil2@...
Sent: Sunday, August 15, 2004 10:48 AM
Subject: Re: [FlaxSeedOil2] What's so important about the cottage cheese?


Catherine,
blame it on my translation. In an attempt to translate as literally as possible, I sometimes allow myself to get caught up in her often convoluted way of writing. Anyone who knows German well (e.g. Ulla) knows what I am talking about. That is not meant in a derogatory way, it is proper German. Dr.Johanna Budwig was far more proficient in German and of course in the subject matter than I am or ever will be. This kind of writing is quite common in Germany, especially among academic writers. One sentence can be as long as 4 or 5 lines. Dr.Budwig often takes it to the extreme spiked with many medical terms, the combination of which is for me sometimes very hard to translate.

I should translate these more complicated passages more loosely and not try to capture all the nuances exactly the way they are given. That way the passage would have come out like this.

"The substances that are contained in the SH-group have often been used with varied success. This important sulfhydryl group is found in Detoxin, in Insulin, in Pancreatic Secretions and especially in Methionine which is converted to Cysteine in the body. The often reported good success with essential fatty acids and the significance of the often discussed "lipotropic effects" of these essential amino acids brought me to the realization that the full potential of these substances can only be reached when they are combined so that they can interact."

Does it sound any better?

Wilhelm

----- Original Message -----
From: Catherine Coy
To: FlaxSeedOil2@...
Sent: Sunday, August 15, 2004 8:30 AM
Subject: Re: [FlaxSeedOil2] What's so important about the cottage cheese?


Wilhelm, thanks for the quote. *sigh* This partly points out why Dr. Budwig's theory isn't widely accepted: she can't/couldn't write worth a darn! If only she had had someone transfer her ideas into clear and concise language (it can't all be blamed on translation from German to English), we'd possibly see a lot fewer people dying from cancer today.


----- Original Message -----
From: Wilhelm Hansen
To: FlaxSeedOil2@...
Sent: Saturday, August 14, 2004 11:44 AM
Subject: Re: [FlaxSeedOil2] What's so important about the cottage cheese?


How about this quote from 1952 as given in Dr.Budwig's 1977 book "Der Tod des Tumors - Band II" (The Death of the Tumor -Vol.II) page 150:

"The substances that are contained in the SH-group have often been used with varied success. This significant sulfhydryl group is found in Detoxin, in Insulin, in Pancreatic Secretions, especially in Methionine which is converted in the organism to Cysteine. The often good success with essential fatty acids for the same indications and the significance of the often discussed "lipotropic effects" of the essential amino acids, brought me to the realization that only through interaction of the essential amino acids and the essential fatty acids can the physiological significance of these substances fully evolve."

Wilhelm





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Re: Seven times Nobel Prize nominee?

Wilhelm Hansen
 

Good point Ulla. It does not say that Dr. Budwig was nominated 6 or 7 times by different people. Some of them could have been repeat nominations by the same person, i.e. by Prof. Halme.

Perhaps he is no longer in the clinic in Helsinki, but in her 1999 book "Krebs - Das Problem und die L?sung" p.31, Dr.Budwig says: "...I keep getting acknowledgements of my work from recognized experts, e.g. that they have over 90% success in the Chir. Clinic in Helsinki by using the method of Dr.Budwig, and this in cases where school medicine has failed. This was reported by Prof. Halme".

Wilhelm



Coming back to the German web page you posted.
It says near the beginning, in a letter written by Brkki Halme, Professor,
Senator h.c., that he nominated Dr.Budwig for the Nobel Prize in 1985. So
much for Dr.Weil's statement that the nominations don't mean much because
anybody can nominate. Prof. Halme is not just anybody! He also runs (or is
instrumental in) a clinic in Finland where Dr.Budwig's method is used with
great success (I read that elsewhere)."
Yes, that is only one of the 6 or 7 nominations usually quoted but does it
matter? I am sure more proof of other nominees will come to light as we
keep reading.
On a German website run by Dr. Matthias Weisser, Prof. Halme is quoted as
saying "will renominate Dr. Budwig for the Nobel Prize", so it's likely
that he did so several times... Btw I could find no reference to Prof.
Halme on the Internet so it's possible that his clinic no longer exists...

Ulla

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Re: Subject: Pee is very yellow---CARROTS!!

glogan
 

Regular, raw, beets, sometimes just the beet tops...

Gerry Logan

----- Original Message -----
From: "Ed Watanabe" <ewats@...>
To: <FlaxSeedOil2@...>
Sent: Sunday, August 15, 2004 11:29 AM
Subject: RE: [FlaxSeedOil2] Subject: Pee is very yellow---CARROTS!!


Gerry...what kind of beets are you taking?
EW

-----Original Message-----
From: Boricua [mailto:workboricua@...]
Sent: Saturday, August 14, 2004 7:31 PM
To: FlaxSeedOil2@...
Subject: Re: [FlaxSeedOil2] Subject: Pee is very yellow---CARROTS!!


Here is a good page to read on why your urine turns colors.



Bori

glogan <glogan@...> wrote:
Barb........... just remember Beets are a great cleanser for the liver
and
the bowels, and the colour that goes in is the the colour that will come
out, so if you dont mind deep red stools eat all you can handle, I know
that
when I'm juicing if I cut a small slice off of a beet it will still make
the
colour go deep red, this will be helpful with the Liver cleanse, if you
want
to clean out the bowel cut a larger piece of the beet, Beets are also
good
for the blood....

Gerry Logan


----- Original Message -----
From: "Barb" <barb1283@...>
To: "fso" <FlaxSeedOil2@...>
Sent: Saturday, August 14, 2004 12:44 PM
Subject: [FlaxSeedOil2] Subject: Pee is very yellow---CARROTS!!


Hi,
I juiced a whole beet in with some carrots last
week and red in stool next day. It really looked
like blood so didn't know what to do so I stopped
juicing a whole beet and only put a piece of one
in. I'll try it again in awhile and if it
happens again, I'll know it was the beet but beet
juice is REALLY deep, deep red so is confusing if
shows up anywhere.
Maybe color is from carrots or flaxseed or maybe
both. I guess it isn't a problem. I just
wondered if other experience that with the fso
diet. I don't drink enough water though I know.
..>
From: "=^. .^=" <ms.katlee@...>
Subject: Pee is very yellow---CARROTS!!

You mentioned you are drinking lots of carrot
juice ....let me tell you a little story...

When my son was much younger he loved beets.
One morning he got up to pee and said to me it
was
a different color. I looked and it was reddish
in color.

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Re: German writing style

Wilhelm Hansen
 

Thanks for your response Ulla. It is reassuring to hear from you that I am not the only one experiencing difficulty with literal German-to-English translation. I will keep that in mind and translate more loosely in future to make it more readable in English, or even paraphrase it. It is easier and less time consuming anyway.

For those who don't know, Ulla is a professional translator.

Wilhelm


Wilhelm, first of all thanks for taking the time to provide these
translations!!!

You have beautifully summed up some of the major problems arising in
German-to-English translations.Yes, literal translation in an attempt to
catch all the nuances (good German often introduces lots of nuances and
qualifiers) is one of the major pitfalls...

And yes, well-formulated long sentences are a badge of elegance and
intelligence in German, in fact the longer (as long as you keep the logic
and syntax intact) the more elegant and pleasurable to read! One of the
most excellent "convoluted" sentence writers is famous author Thomas Mann,
I think his sentences often span half the book page or more!!! It is truly
a sign of mastering the language particularly well, and together with other
rules, I had to learn "the hard way" that in English it's simply not
considered good style to write long sentences (what a pity ;-)...
Ulla
Re: Seven times Nobel Prize nominee?

[email protected]
 

Coming back to the German web page you posted.
It says near the beginning, in a letter written by Brkki Halme, Professor, Senator h.c., that he nominated Dr.Budwig for the Nobel Prize in 1985. So much for Dr.Weil's statement that the nominations don't mean much because anybody can nominate. Prof. Halme is not just anybody! He also runs (or is instrumental in) a clinic in Finland where Dr.Budwig's method is used with great success (I read that elsewhere)."
Yes, that is only one of the 6 or 7 nominations usually quoted but does it matter? I am sure more proof of other nominees will come to light as we keep reading.
On a German website run by Dr. Matthias Weisser, Prof. Halme is quoted as saying "will renominate Dr. Budwig for the Nobel Prize", so it's likely that he did so several times... Btw I could find no reference to Prof. Halme on the Internet so it's possible that his clinic no longer exists...

Ulla
Re: German writing style

[email protected]
 

Wilhelm, first of all thanks for taking the time to provide these translations!!!

You have beautifully summed up some of the major problems arising in German-to-English translations.Yes, literal translation in an attempt to catch all the nuances (good German often introduces lots of nuances and qualifiers) is one of the major pitfalls...

And yes, well-formulated long sentences are a badge of elegance and intelligence in German, in fact the longer (as long as you keep the logic and syntax intact) the more elegant and pleasurable to read! One of the most excellent "convoluted" sentence writers is famous author Thomas Mann, I think his sentences often span half the book page or more!!! It is truly a sign of mastering the language particularly well, and together with other rules, I had to learn "the hard way" that in English it's simply not considered good style to write long sentences (what a pity ;-)...
Ulla

At 10:48 15.08.04 -0700, you wrote:
Catherine,
blame it on my translation. In an attempt to translate as literally as possible, I sometimes allow myself to get caught up in her often convoluted way of writing. Anyone who knows German well (e.g. Ulla) knows what I am talking about. That is not meant in a derogatory way, it is proper German. Dr.Johanna Budwig was far more proficient in German and of course in the subject matter than I am or ever will be. This kind of writing is quite common in Germany, especially among academic writers. One sentence can be as long as 4 or 5 lines. Dr.Budwig often takes it to the extreme spiked with many medical terms, the combination of which is for me sometimes very hard to translate.

I should translate these more complicated passages more loosely and not try to capture all the nuances exactly the way they are given. That way the passage would have come out like this.

"The substances that are contained in the SH-group have often been used with varied success. This important sulfhydryl group is found in Detoxin, in Insulin, in Pancreatic Secretions and especially in Methionine which is converted to Cysteine in the body. The often reported good success with essential fatty acids and the significance of the often discussed "lipotropic effects" of these essential amino acids brought me to the realization that the full potential of these substances can only be reached when they are combined so that they can interact."

Does it sound any better?

Wilhelm
Re: Viruses and FO/CC

Wilhelm Hansen
 

The nutrients found in fo/cc are a basic requirement for the immune system. Therefore, the Budwig Protocol improves the immune system. For example, she found that microorganisms observed in the blood of cancer patients receded as the greenish/yellow substance in the blood gave way to the normal red when her diet was given.

Wilhelm

----- Original Message -----
From: Catherine Coy
To: FlaxSeedOil2@...
Sent: Sunday, August 15, 2004 8:18 AM
Subject: [FlaxSeedOil2] Viruses and FO/CC


Does anyone know anything about the anti-VIRAL aspect of the Budwig Diet? Since viruses are held in the body at the cellular level, wouldn't the interaction of sulphur/EFA attack viruses (AIDS, herpes, etc.) as it does cancer cells?
Re: Seven times Nobel Prize nominee?

Wilhelm Hansen
 

Liz and Catherine,
these topics repeat themselves. That is no fault of yours - it is just the nature of these lists. There are always new members coming on stream who don't know what has been discussed before.

First of all let me say that I don't know whether Dr.Budwig wrote of herself that she had been nominated for the Nobel Prize. She was always very factual, truthful and scientific without any exaggerations. She alienated the money makers of this world because she chose to pursue the truth rather than bend to their demands. That is why she is not better known and not accepted by the establishment.

We have discussed Dr.Weil's off-handed and misleading remarks about Dr.Budwig at some length. I don't want to get into it now. Check the archives and you will find a lot on it. But since the Nobel Prize nominations are brought up again, check message # 17779. I will copy the gist of it here:

"Hi Rick,
Coming back to the German web page you posted.
It says near the beginning, in a letter written by Brkki Halme, Professor, Senator h.c., that he nominated Dr.Budwig for the Nobel Prize in 1985. So much for Dr.Weil's statement that the nominations don't mean much because anybody can nominate. Prof. Halme is not just anybody! He also runs (or is instrumental in) a clinic in Finland where Dr.Budwig's method is used with great success (I read that elsewhere)."

Yes, that is only one of the 6 or 7 nominations usually quoted but does it matter? I am sure more proof of other nominees will come to light as we keep reading.

Wilhelm



Yes, this is true...I never placed much credence in it b/c early on in my
cancer searched I went to andrew weil's website and he says to take with a grain
of salt all her nominations because you can nominate youself. However, it
hasnt made a particle bit of difference in my opinion of the Budwig
protocol...which I hope and believe is a very worthwhile, helpful treatment.
Liz
Re: Diabetes

Michael Prince
 

Is there any effect on DIABETES with the Budwig Protacol?


Thankyou Michael



Wilhelm Hansen <wilhelmh@...> wrote:
Catherine,
blame it on my translation. In an attempt to translate as literally as possible, I sometimes allow myself to get caught up in her often convoluted way of writing. Anyone who knows German well (e.g. Ulla) knows what I am talking about. That is not meant in a derogatory way, it is proper German. Dr.Johanna Budwig was far more proficient in German and of course in the subject matter than I am or ever will be. This kind of writing is quite common in Germany, especially among academic writers. One sentence can be as long as 4 or 5 lines. Dr.Budwig often takes it to the extreme spiked with many medical terms, the combination of which is for me sometimes very hard to translate.

I should translate these more complicated passages more loosely and not try to capture all the nuances exactly the way they are given. That way the passage would have come out like this.

"The substances that are contained in the SH-group have often been used with varied success. This important sulfhydryl group is found in Detoxin, in Insulin, in Pancreatic Secretions and especially in Methionine which is converted to Cysteine in the body. The often reported good success with essential fatty acids and the significance of the often discussed "lipotropic effects" of these essential amino acids brought me to the realization that the full potential of these substances can only be reached when they are combined so that they can interact."

Does it sound any better?

Wilhelm

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From: Catherine Coy
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Subject: Re: [FlaxSeedOil2] What's so important about the cottage cheese?


Wilhelm, thanks for the quote. *sigh* This partly points out why Dr. Budwig's theory isn't widely accepted: she can't/couldn't write worth a darn! If only she had had someone transfer her ideas into clear and concise language (it can't all be blamed on translation from German to English), we'd possibly see a lot fewer people dying from cancer today.


----- Original Message -----
From: Wilhelm Hansen
To: FlaxSeedOil2@...
Sent: Saturday, August 14, 2004 11:44 AM
Subject: Re: [FlaxSeedOil2] What's so important about the cottage cheese?


How about this quote from 1952 as given in Dr.Budwig's 1977 book "Der Tod des Tumors - Band II" (The Death of the Tumor -Vol.II) page 150:

"The substances that are contained in the SH-group have often been used with varied success. This significant sulfhydryl group is found in Detoxin, in Insulin, in Pancreatic Secretions, especially in Methionine which is converted in the organism to Cysteine. The often good success with essential fatty acids for the same indications and the significance of the often discussed "lipotropic effects" of the essential amino acids, brought me to the realization that only through interaction of the essential amino acids and the essential fatty acids can the physiological significance of these substances fully evolve."

Wilhelm






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Re: What's so important about the cottage cheese?

Wilhelm Hansen
 

Catherine,
blame it on my translation. In an attempt to translate as literally as possible, I sometimes allow myself to get caught up in her often convoluted way of writing. Anyone who knows German well (e.g. Ulla) knows what I am talking about. That is not meant in a derogatory way, it is proper German. Dr.Johanna Budwig was far more proficient in German and of course in the subject matter than I am or ever will be. This kind of writing is quite common in Germany, especially among academic writers. One sentence can be as long as 4 or 5 lines. Dr.Budwig often takes it to the extreme spiked with many medical terms, the combination of which is for me sometimes very hard to translate.

I should translate these more complicated passages more loosely and not try to capture all the nuances exactly the way they are given. That way the passage would have come out like this.

"The substances that are contained in the SH-group have often been used with varied success. This important sulfhydryl group is found in Detoxin, in Insulin, in Pancreatic Secretions and especially in Methionine which is converted to Cysteine in the body. The often reported good success with essential fatty acids and the significance of the often discussed "lipotropic effects" of these essential amino acids brought me to the realization that the full potential of these substances can only be reached when they are combined so that they can interact."

Does it sound any better?

Wilhelm

----- Original Message -----
From: Catherine Coy
To: FlaxSeedOil2@...
Sent: Sunday, August 15, 2004 8:30 AM
Subject: Re: [FlaxSeedOil2] What's so important about the cottage cheese?


Wilhelm, thanks for the quote. *sigh* This partly points out why Dr. Budwig's theory isn't widely accepted: she can't/couldn't write worth a darn! If only she had had someone transfer her ideas into clear and concise language (it can't all be blamed on translation from German to English), we'd possibly see a lot fewer people dying from cancer today.


----- Original Message -----
From: Wilhelm Hansen
To: FlaxSeedOil2@...
Sent: Saturday, August 14, 2004 11:44 AM
Subject: Re: [FlaxSeedOil2] What's so important about the cottage cheese?


How about this quote from 1952 as given in Dr.Budwig's 1977 book "Der Tod des Tumors - Band II" (The Death of the Tumor -Vol.II) page 150:

"The substances that are contained in the SH-group have often been used with varied success. This significant sulfhydryl group is found in Detoxin, in Insulin, in Pancreatic Secretions, especially in Methionine which is converted in the organism to Cysteine. The often good success with essential fatty acids for the same indications and the significance of the often discussed "lipotropic effects" of the essential amino acids, brought me to the realization that only through interaction of the essential amino acids and the essential fatty acids can the physiological significance of these substances fully evolve."

Wilhelm
Re: Dr. Budwig's writings

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As a native speaker of German and professional translator for English and French (living and working in Germany) I can assure you that Dr. Budwig's German is excellent and in keeping with her high intellectual standard...

Even when the translator is fully proficient in two or more languages, translation does remain a rather tricky business and may require professional training as most other skilled work... among a number of skills, it requires first fully absorbing the meaning of the original, then "forgetting" the original text while rendering its meaning - and only the meaning - into the target language. Translations will otherwise tend to be non-idiomatic by clinging too close to the original (syntax etc.) ...

Ulla

you wrote:

thanks for the quote. *sigh* This partly points out why Dr. Budwig's theory isn't widely accepted: she can't/couldn't write worth a darn! If only she had had someone transfer her ideas into clear and concise language (it can't all be blamed on translation from German to English), we'd possibly see a lot fewer people dying from cancer today.
Seven times Nobel Prize nominee?

Catherine Coy
 

Also, websites need to stop referring to Johanna Budwig as a 6- or 7-time Nobel Prize nominee? There's absolutely no way to verify this. People who place credence in the Nobel Prize know this and, therefore, there's no bolstering of one's credentials through nomination except to the uninformed.

Excerpt:



Has X been nominated as a candidate for the Nobel Prize, or where do I find a list of Nobel Prize nominees?

According to the Statutes of the Nobel Foundation, information about the nominations is not to be disclosed, publicly or privately, for a period of fifty years. The restriction not only concerns the nominees and nominators, but also investigations and opinions in the awarding of a prize. Nomination information older than fifty years is public. At this website the Nomination Database for the Nobel Prize in Physiology or Medicine, 1901-1949 is available and Nomination Databases for the other prize categories will follow shortly.
Re: This one is good news. For Yang.

 

Hi Yang:

My son is just using the oil at this time, three tablespoons a day.
However he told me he doesn't crave sweets anymore.

Flo

--- In FlaxSeedOil2@..., yang xu <xuyang11@y...> wrote:
Flo,

May I ask whether your son is on strict Budwig's diet
protocol or just fo/cc?

Thanks,
-yang
--- flo_webber <flo-webber@s...> wrote:

Hi group:
I just wanted to tell everyone about my son who has
arthritis in his
spine. He has suffered for the last twelve years.
Some days he can
hardly walk. His joints are so painful that it keeps
him awake at
night and to do any kind of work is almost
impossible. After he saw
how well my husband Scott was doing on the Budwig
diet. He
decided to try the flaxseed oil to see if it would
help him. He has
been on the oil for three and a half months now. He
can't believe
the difference. His pain has all but gone away, his
energy is better
than it has been for years. He is out in the yard
cutting the lawns,
painting the inside of the house. He says I just
can't believe this,
I haven't been pain free in twelve years, and I now
feel like a new
man. He has been on medication for all these years
and he is now
going to the doctor to see if he can wean off the
pills. He used to
be very pale and now he has color and looks about
ten years younger.
He also walks straighter. As far as he is concerned
there is nothing
in the world like flaxseed oil and he said that he
will take it for
the rest of his life. Being his mom I couldn't be
happier.
Thank-you Dr. Budwig you are an Angel. Even from
heaven you are
still carring on your work.
God Bless You.
Flo


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Re: What's so important about the cottage cheese?

Catherine Coy
 

Wilhelm, thanks for the quote. *sigh* This partly points out why Dr. Budwig's theory isn't widely accepted: she can't/couldn't write worth a darn! If only she had had someone transfer her ideas into clear and concise language (it can't all be blamed on translation from German to English), we'd possibly see a lot fewer people dying from cancer today.

----- Original Message -----
From: Wilhelm Hansen
To: FlaxSeedOil2@...
Sent: Saturday, August 14, 2004 11:44 AM
Subject: Re: [FlaxSeedOil2] What's so important about the cottage cheese?


How about this quote from 1952 as given in Dr.Budwig's 1977 book "Der Tod des Tumors - Band II" (The Death of the Tumor -Vol.II) page 150:

"The substances that are contained in the SH-group have often been used with varied success. This significant sulfhydryl group is found in Detoxin, in Insulin, in Pancreatic Secretions, especially in Methionine which is converted in the organism to Cysteine. The often good success with essential fatty acids for the same indications and the significance of the often discussed "lipotropic effects" of the essential amino acids, brought me to the realization that only through interaction of the essential amino acids and the essential fatty acids can the physiological significance of these substances fully evolve."

Wilhelm



----- Original Message -----
From: Catherine Coy
To: FlaxSeedOil2@...
Sent: Friday, August 13, 2004 2:49 PM
Subject: [FlaxSeedOil2] What's so important about the cottage cheese?


Hi Group ~

Can anyone point to an excerpt from Dr. Budwig's book wherein she explains why and how the sulphur from cottage cheese changes the dynamic of flax seed (Omega 3) and provides the cancer-fighting component? I'm too tired today to look it up. Thanks.





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Re: Subject: Pee is very yellow---CARROTS!!

Ed Watanabe
 

Gerry...what kind of beets are you taking?
EW

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Here is a good page to read on why your urine turns colors.



Bori

glogan <glogan@...> wrote:
Barb........... just remember Beets are a great cleanser for the liver and
the bowels, and the colour that goes in is the the colour that will come
out, so if you dont mind deep red stools eat all you can handle, I know that
when I'm juicing if I cut a small slice off of a beet it will still make the
colour go deep red, this will be helpful with the Liver cleanse, if you want
to clean out the bowel cut a larger piece of the beet, Beets are also good
for the blood....

Gerry Logan


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From: "Barb" <barb1283@...>
To: "fso" <FlaxSeedOil2@...>
Sent: Saturday, August 14, 2004 12:44 PM
Subject: [FlaxSeedOil2] Subject: Pee is very yellow---CARROTS!!


Hi,
I juiced a whole beet in with some carrots last
week and red in stool next day. It really looked
like blood so didn't know what to do so I stopped
juicing a whole beet and only put a piece of one
in. I'll try it again in awhile and if it
happens again, I'll know it was the beet but beet
juice is REALLY deep, deep red so is confusing if
shows up anywhere.
Maybe color is from carrots or flaxseed or maybe
both. I guess it isn't a problem. I just
wondered if other experience that with the fso
diet. I don't drink enough water though I know.
..>
From: "=^. .^=" <ms.katlee@...>
Subject: Pee is very yellow---CARROTS!!

You mentioned you are drinking lots of carrot
juice ....let me tell you a little story...

When my son was much younger he loved beets.
One morning he got up to pee and said to me it
was
a different color. I looked and it was reddish
in color.

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