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8 Year old with Brain tumour - terminal

vanaltena88
 

I am requesting information on the specifics of the Budwig diet and
its benefits for a terminally ill 8 year old. This little girl has
relapsed (3rd time) and they are only giving her weeks or months.

Thank you.


Curcumin and food

 

--- In FlaxSeedOil2@..., "Alex Torres" <atorres@d...>
wrote:
Dear Terry,
Curcumin is quite aggressive with the esophagus and the gastric
linen
and I recommend to my patients to ingest it with food and some
calcium
carbonate.
Hi Alex:

Thanks much for your prompt reply. Life Extension also recommends
taking their product with food. The reason I asked relates to the
following I saw on a physician's site who advocates hormone blockade
along with certain complementary supplements:

"The owner of the company that makes this product recommends that men
with prostate cancer be treated with two capsules three times per day
on an empty stomach, although the literature that I received
recommended taking it with a heavy meal. The owner of the company is
aware of this, and states that the recommendation to take it with food
is not correct, that it should be taken on an empty stomach. The good
news is that it is inexpensive; 60 capsules cost only about $15.00.
The product can be ordered by calling (888) 852-4993. The name of the
company is Natural Health Consultants."

Regards,
Terry


Re: Hi Glycemic Foods

 

--- In FlaxSeedOil2@..., "Leonard" <leonardleonard1@e...>
wrote:

Excellent point. I think glycemic index is relevant mainly if eating 1
or 2 foods on an empty stomach. However, if eating a large amount of a
low-glycemic food (e.g., grapes), or a combination of foods, at a
given meal, I would look (only) at the glycemic load. It's important
that a given meal (particularly if it contains mostly carbs) not have
an excessive glycemic load.

Then is a "meal" of fo/cc/fs, organic berries, some walnuts, and
occasionally a banana considered to have a high glycemic load?

Thanks,
Terry


Re: To Charles from Ksenija re: request for testimony

 

--- In FlaxSeedOil2@..., Ksenija oberlander
<ksenija_oberlander@y...> wrote:

Terry

We do not want chemo or radiation, the next step in traditional
medical protocol These treatments are palliative .and result in nasty
side effects. So we are giving T therapy a try. Wish us luck

Ksenija.

Ksenija:

Last year I read Roger Mason's book and saw Dr. Leibowitz speak at a
PC conference in Sept. '03 (and spoke with him briefly afterward). I
didn't pick up on the post-IAB T therapy initially...guess I was
focused on the short-term since I'd only been recently dx'd w/PC (Aug.
'03). I DO wish you the best of luck...it appears that Dr. Leibowitz
has had some degree of success w/TRT in cases of metastatic HRPC.

Terry


Re: WHAT ELSE CAN IT BE? CANCER OR NOT?

Jennifer Buck
 

I'm sure I've missed something so please forgive me if this is
repetitious...How long have your lymph nodes been swollen? Have you been
treated with any antibiotics? I was diagnosed with Hodgkin's Lymphoma last
year and it can be difficult to get enough tissue during a needle biopsy to
get a definite diagnosis. PET scans will light up with infections also that
is why I am wondering if you've been on antibiotics. If you have any
questions for me please feel free to ask.

Take care,
Jennifer

-----Original Message-----
From: Boricua [mailto:workboricua@...]
Sent: Friday, August 06, 2004 1:39 PM
To: cancercured@...; flaxseedoil2@...
Subject: [FlaxSeedOil2] WHAT ELSE CAN IT BE? CANCER OR NOT?


Dear Friends,

Today I saw the oncologist which was assigned to me by
the military doctors on post (like they say the army pays for cheap shit).

After the oncologist reviewed the results of my PET scan he tells me, " I
think you have lyphoma and not nasopharyngeal cancer."

He stated that it may not even be cancer that he has no clue . So he needs
to biobspie the lymphnodes of my neck again ( which these tested
inclonclusive in the past more than three times.) I am tierd of this mambo
jambo... What else can it be if its not lymphoma and my lymphnodes are
swollen?


Any Ideas???

Bori


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Re: Tumeric

sunfish117
 

I put one teaspoon of Turmeric and 1/2 tsp of ginger each day in the
focc.
Charles

--- In FlaxSeedOil2@..., "Paul Cates" <paerca@h...> wrote:
Is anyone taking large amounts of tumeric or tumeric extract?


Mystery solved (almost)

sunfish117
 

Everytime I post a message to the flax oil group I get a discover (R)
card E Mail. The last one came with one of my postings.Discover R
cards automatic responder is sending messages from the focc group to
me. We need a geek to figure this one out. The following is what
Discover (R)card sent to me.
Charles

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Subject :[FlaxSeedOil2] Re: tTo Charles re: request for testimony
From :sunfish117 <carp43@...>
Date :Thu Aug 05 21:44:07 EDT 2004

-------------------------------------------------

I haqve a new hormone blocker which I have forgotten the name of. It
consist of two injections in the stomach area. It is not either of
those you mentioned. I get those every 4 months. I investigated
glyconutrients however the product most advertised is "Ambrotose" and
far beyond my ability to buy because it is expensive. I have
researched the glyconutrients that it is composed of and i also
bought
the book that describes the 8 essential glyconutrients. I have found
sources for most of these individually at much less cost. I also take
"D. I. M." a chemical derived from broccoli that supposedly inhibits
cancer. I add Turmeric and ginger to my focc. Both of these are well
documented as inhitors of cancer. I also add ground flax seed to the
focc along with ground brown rice.
Thanks for your inquiry and I hope all is well with you.
Charles







--- In FlaxSeedOil2@..., Ksenija oberlander
<ksenija_oberlander@y...> wrote:
Charles

So happy to hear of your success with the Budwig fo/cc diet.

A year ago my husband was also diagnosed with PCa with mets to the
bones. Would you mind sharing on what kind of hromone blockage
therapy you are on (Casodex/ Lupron?).

Are you taking any additional supplements or just strictly
following the Budwig regime?

Thanks

Ksenija

You mention hormone blockage. Is it Casodex and Lupron combnation.

sunfish117 <carp43@m...> wrote:
---In answer to your question in my case Yes! I have advanced
prostate
cancer diagnosed as the most agressive kind which has spread beyond
the prostate. 12 biosy needles with 12 positives. I changed diet
and
went on focc soon after learning what I had. I understand medicare
will only pay for one cat scan a year so I have no way of knowing
what
is going on except my well being has drastically improved in many
ways. My prostate has shrunk to near normal. Whether or not this is
from the hormone treatments or focc or a combination of both I do
not
know. My health continues to improve. I have been using focc since
october 2003.
Charles




In FlaxSeedOil2@..., "cathcoy" <catherinecoy@c...>
wrote:
I have enjoyed everyone's feedback for a few weeks now. Without
going into the archives to attempt to determine the answer myself,
I
would like to ask the group if the majority of you are, in fact,
battling a disease or do you take flaxseed oil as a preventive
measure? Personally, I'm convinced of the efficacy of Essential
Fatty Acids to protect us from a variety of ailments and I use it
for
that purpose (in my case, mild arthritis).

The reason I ask is this: I participate on a discussion board
where
melanoma patients of every "stage" post their treatments--the vast
majority of which involve conventional medicine (radiation, drugs
and
surgery). I mentioned that I had read quite a bit about Johanna
Budwig's alleged cure for a variety of ailments, including cancer.
Since the "treatment" is innocuous and involves a nutrient (EFA)
we
need anyway, why not incorporate the Budwig Diet with the view
that "it can't hurt and might help, so why not?"

Well, you'd have thought I asked them to dance naked in Times
Square
as part of their treatment. On a conventional discussion board,
you're practically drawn and quartered for endorsing (or even
suggesting) anything other than pharmaceuticals, surgery or
radiation, it appears, but that particular board is dedicated to
melanoma (my particular focus), so I continue to visit and post.
Now
I'm wondering, however, how many Budwig success stories of cures
for
actual diseases do we have among the 600+ members of this board?

Any feedback? Thanks.


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Breaking the Budwig Rules

Barb
 

Re: Breaking the Budwig procotol rules

I assume she meant 'before' cancer disappeared,
otherwise she is saying once you have cancer you
must eat fso/cc in said amounts your whole life
or else you will rapidly go back into cancer???

Just wondering. I have't read her books.



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Re: Turmeric

Alex Torres
 

Dear Carolyn,
My wife is taking for M.S. 9 grams a day, she is o.k. with this, no more
M.S. I am taking 3 grams a day as a preventive for cancerwith one
capsule of ground black pepper each take.
Turmeric, curcumin, Haldi some names�

Alex Torres M.D.
www.geocities.com/compu_dr/

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From: Carolyn J. Kreibich [mailto:kreibich@...]
Sent: Saturday, August 07, 2004 1:14 AM
To: FlaxSeedOil2@...
Subject: Re: [FlaxSeedOil2] Tumeric

Paul,

I add about a half of teaspoon of powdered tumeric to my fo/cc mix along

with chopped ginger root.

Carolyn

Paul Cates wrote:

Is anyone taking large amounts of tumeric or tumeric extract?










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Re: Father's latest PSA...

Alex Torres
 

Dear Terry,
Curcumin is quite aggressive with the esophagus and the gastric linen
and I recommend to my patients to ingest it with food and some calcium
carbonate. Curcumin is really effective to stop the secondary reaction
of radiation too. I am aware of the Life Extension Foundation that sells
900 mg curcumin caps
w/bioperene (pepper extract) included in each cap to aid absorption, but
the cost is high for our patients� remember I am running a free
cancer/aids clinic, and using pure ground black pepper (we capsule it)
give us very good results and absorption. We are importing the purest
curcumin from India (and we capsule it) and it is really cheap compared
to the costs here in USA.




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Subject: [FlaxSeedOil2] Re: Father's latest PSA...

--- In FlaxSeedOil2@..., "Alex Torres" <atorres@d...>
wrote:

You need to add to the protocol Curcumin at least 3 grams three
times a day accompanied with a black pepper capsule (each take).

Alex:

Would that be with (or without) food? I've read conflicting
recommendations - i.e., two grams without food/three grams with food.

Just FYI, Life Extension Foundation sells 900 mg curcumin caps
w/bioperene (pepper extract) included in each cap to aid absorption.

Thanks,
Terry



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Re: Tumeric

Carolyn J. Kreibich
 

Paul,

I add about a half of teaspoon of powdered tumeric to my fo/cc mix along
with chopped ginger root.

Carolyn

Paul Cates wrote:

Is anyone taking large amounts of tumeric or tumeric extract?






Re: WHAT ELSE CAN IT BE? CANCER OR NOT?

 

In a message dated 8/6/04 3:29:39 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
workboricua@... writes:

<< What else can it be if its not lymphoma and my lymphnodes are swollen?>>
8/7/04
Hi Bori
Were you ever in iraq, afghanistan, etc? You may have been exposed to either
the Uranium bomb dust or from the inoculations that were given to the soldiers
that were sent there. If you go to: www.garynull.com , he has a section on
his website about that.. I hope this info will be helpful to you. And
remember, white sugar is the food for cancers.
Sincerely, melin1898@...


Flaxseed oil fresh during shipment - should be no problem

nejray
 

Hello

Most bottled Flax oils should be OK to be shipped without any special
precautions apart from a secure package. Usually during production
the oil in the bottle is nitrogen capped - during production -
filling nitrogen is driven into the bottle to purge it of air/oxygen
then the oil added, this way the oil is enclosed in a bottle with no
air/oxygen just with a layer or inert nitrogen over the liquid then
capped. Usually this will stay fresh for about 3 months or until
opened then it should be refrigerated. When buying always good to
ask if nitrogen capped - if the retailer don't know I am sure he can
find out. and yes better still if he keeps is stocks in a
refrigerator

regards

Ray


Re: Hi Glycemic Foods

 

From: "nejray" <ipuk@...>
When considering high glycemic foods. Just lokking at the glycemic
index is not really sufficient - one must also take into account the
glycemic load.
Excellent point. I think glycemic index is relevant mainly if eating 1
or 2 foods on an empty stomach. However, if eating a large amount of a
low-glycemic food (e.g., grapes), or a combination of foods, at a
given meal, I would look (only) at the glycemic load. It's important
that a given meal (particularly if it contains mostly carbs) not have
an excessive glycemic load.


Re: Father's latest PSA...

nncav
 

That sounds like something I read at Schultz's page about not eating
meat ,
WHAT OUR CUSTOMERS SAY ABOUT THE PROSTATE FORMULA:

I am 62 and my prostate was so bad I had to get up to urinate every
hour and a half, all night long, EVERY NIGHT. I didn't think I'd get
a good night's sleep ever again. I followed your advice and started
your Prostate Tonic and it was a blessing. Last week for the first
time in years I slept like a baby. I also stopped eating red meat
like you suggested. Thank you. -R.N. Washington, DC



Sounds like your dad would like non capsule help Clint.



--- In FlaxSeedOil2@..., "Alex Torres" <atorres@d...>
wrote:
Clint,
It is really maddening when you see not response to natural
treatments
for certain diseases. Prostatic cancer is one of them. Be sure that
using other "proved" strong medical treatments goes the same way
BUT the
results are quite aggressive. Here at our place, we see that daily.
Something is not working with your father. I see the protocol
adequate,
but the dosages are for HPB (hypertrophy prostate benign) not for
cancer. I know that your father is getting bored taking a lot of
capsules, but the dosages in "natural" supplements are really low,
maybe
because the producers of this products are afraid to use big
effective
doses.
You need to add to the protocol Curcumin at least 3 grams three
times a
day accompanied with a black pepper capsule (each take).
Increase the dosage of concentrated palmetto saw (standardized, not
the
berries) to 640 mg twice a day.
Are your father following the Budwig protocol or just taking Flax
oil
and C.c.?
Zapping: Use a TENS apparatus with one electrode at the sacral zone
and
the other on the pubis (sinfisis) start low stimulation for 20
seconds,
then increase to the strong stimulation (if your father supports
it) for
at least 10 minutes. Use a paper towel wetted with water for good
contact.
I am pretty sure he will improve, and I guaranteed that using
radiation
or chemo will accelerate his death. Here at our clinic we see lots
of
patients with prostate cancer. some opt for chemo and radiation and
we
saw them die not for the cancer but for the complications due to the
radiation: lymphatic edema (radiation destroys lymphatic
circulation and
nodes).
We had a patient that his testicles were the size of big melons , he
followed our indications: DIET IS THE MOST IMPORTANT PART FOR THE
TREATMENT OF THIS DISEASE AND IT IS OVERLOOKED!
He was eating only vegetables, electrotherapy, ozone i.v. every
other
day, curcumin and the testicles were normal IN THREE DAYS! He
followed
my orders for 5 months. he was tired (as your father) of eating just
vegetables, and asked me for some meat I said o.k. eat just a little
piece of chicken (organic) meat.
He went to the taqueria (place where tacos are sold) and ate 10 pork
tacos, 10 beef tacos and one 2 litter Coke.
In two days (eating, well not eating, engulfing) with this "diet"
his
testicles were as melons, and he said: "Doctor, I am afraid I
prefer eat
the food I like, and die instead of be on this diet and treatment.
REST
IN PEACE!

Alex Torres M.D.
0www.geocities.com/compu_dr/


Really dont know where !!!!!

nejray
 

Hello

I notice that many articles written regarding the Budwig diet quote
something simular as follows

Persons who break the rules of this diet, Dr Budwig reports, (ie
eating preserved meats, candy, etc) will sometimes grow rapidly worse
and cannot be saved after they come back from their spree.

Can anyone tell me where in the Budwig book or article where this can
be found - really would appreciate.

Thanks

Ray


Re: Hi Glycemic Foods

nejray
 

Hi

When considering high glycemic foods. Just lokking at the glycemic
index is not really sufficient - one must also take into account the
glycemic load.

Looking at the enclosed URL will explain this better.





regards

ray


Re: Ginger Root

Barb
 

What's the story with ginger root???

From: "Carolyn J. Kreibich"
I also
chop up about an inch
of ginger root into little pieces and add that.
So far, so good.



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Re: Father's latest PSA...

 

--- In FlaxSeedOil2@..., "Alex Torres" <atorres@d...>
wrote:

You need to add to the protocol Curcumin at least 3 grams three
times a day accompanied with a black pepper capsule (each take).

Alex:

Would that be with (or without) food? I've read conflicting
recommendations - i.e., two grams without food/three grams with food.

Just FYI, Life Extension Foundation sells 900 mg curcumin caps
w/bioperene (pepper extract) included in each cap to aid absorption.

Thanks,
Terry


Re: Father's latest PSA...

 

Dr. Torres,
I want to thank you tremendously, for sharing this information. I
printed it out and gave it to my dad. The problem is, he's extremely
stubborn! He is in denial about the dangers of radiation, even after
your assesment of it. He's also not very willing to increase his
dosages to proper effectivness, as he will only be increasing his saw
palmetto to only 640mg once per day, even though your recommendation
is to take it twice. I am sooo FRUSTRATED! I'm trying not to argue
with him, as I believe it will turn him off more, but I've been
pleading with him, but he has put his life into the hands of a very
aggressive oncologist. With that said, are there other things that
could be taken, or done? Alex, thank you for taking the time to help
my father.

Sincerely,
Clint

--- In FlaxSeedOil2@..., "Alex Torres" <atorres@d...> wrote:
Clint,
It is really maddening when you see not response to natural treatments
for certain diseases. Prostatic cancer is one of them. Be sure that
using other "proved" strong medical treatments goes the same way BUT the
results are quite aggressive. Here at our place, we see that daily.
Something is not working with your father. I see the protocol adequate,
but the dosages are for HPB (hypertrophy prostate benign) not for
cancer. I know that your father is getting bored taking a lot of
capsules, but the dosages in "natural" supplements are really low, maybe
because the producers of this products are afraid to use big effective
doses.
You need to add to the protocol Curcumin at least 3 grams three times a
day accompanied with a black pepper capsule (each take).
Increase the dosage of concentrated palmetto saw (standardized, not the
berries) to 640 mg twice a day.
Are your father following the Budwig protocol or just taking Flax oil
and C.c.?
Zapping: Use a TENS apparatus with one electrode at the sacral zone and
the other on the pubis (sinfisis) start low stimulation for 20 seconds,
then increase to the strong stimulation (if your father supports it) for
at least 10 minutes. Use a paper towel wetted with water for good
contact.
I am pretty sure he will improve, and I guaranteed that using radiation
or chemo will accelerate his death. Here at our clinic we see lots of
patients with prostate cancer. some opt for chemo and radiation and we
saw them die not for the cancer but for the complications due to the
radiation: lymphatic edema (radiation destroys lymphatic circulation and
nodes).
We had a patient that his testicles were the size of big melons , he
followed our indications: DIET IS THE MOST IMPORTANT PART FOR THE
TREATMENT OF THIS DISEASE AND IT IS OVERLOOKED!
He was eating only vegetables, electrotherapy, ozone i.v. every other
day, curcumin and the testicles were normal IN THREE DAYS! He followed
my orders for 5 months. he was tired (as your father) of eating just
vegetables, and asked me for some meat I said o.k. eat just a little
piece of chicken (organic) meat.
He went to the taqueria (place where tacos are sold) and ate 10 pork
tacos, 10 beef tacos and one 2 litter Coke.
In two days (eating, well not eating, engulfing) with this "diet" his
testicles were as melons, and he said: "Doctor, I am afraid I prefer eat
the food I like, and die instead of be on this diet and treatment. REST
IN PEACE!

Alex Torres M.D.
0www.geocities.com/compu_dr/

-----Original Message-----
From: crusaders914 [mailto:crusaders914@y...]
Sent: Friday, August 06, 2004 3:04 AM
To: FlaxSeedOil2@...
Subject: [FlaxSeedOil2] Re: Father's latest PSA...

Hi Larry,
For some odd reason, I'm not able to access your website. I get the
"Forbidden You don't have permission to access / on this server."
message. Will be looking foward to accessing it, hopefully in the
near future.

Thanks,
Clint




--- In FlaxSeedOil2@..., "Larry Clapp" <lclapp@p...> wrote:
See if he will read, "Prostate Health in 90 Days Without
Drugs or Surgery-2004 Addition",
www.prostate90.com/2004Addition.

It is easy to heal this naturally.

Larry Clapp, PhD, JD
www.prostate90.com

-----Original Message-----
From: crusaders914 [mailto:crusaders914@y...]
Sent: Thursday, August 05, 2004 6:57 PM
To: FlaxSeedOil2@...
Subject: [FlaxSeedOil2] Father's latest PSA...

Well, looks like my father's PSA continues to rise, despite
the use of
a number of alernative treatments, as well as the
conventional stuff.
His PSA went up from 4.3 to 5.6 in one month's time. He
has been
taking a bunch of stuff including Flaxoil/Cottage chese, as
well as 6
Prostasol per day for about two and a half months. It seems
that his
PSA is not being controled. Can anyone suggest a protocol
that might
be effective with hormone refractory prostate cancer? The
oncologist
has scheduled him to get radiation treatment and resume the
use of
casodex as well. and my father is eager to go through with
it. This
is his readings as I can recall.

PSA OCT 03 - 248 Mets to bones and lymphnodes
PSA FEB 04 - .2
PSA MAR 04 - 1.1
PSA APR 04 - 2.7
PSA MAY 04 - 4.0 (runs out the remaining casodex half way
through)
PSA JUN 04 - 4.3
PSA JUL 04 - 5.6

I'm not exactly sure if I'm mixing the "old" method of
reading with
the "new", but to my knowledge, it's the new.

Taking:
Hormone Blocker shots (assuming Zoladex)
Will resume Casodex
Zometa

4 tsp FO 3/4 cup CC
6 Prostasol
12 Transfer Factor Plus
9 Transfer Factor
2 150mg CoQ10's
1 200mcg Selenium
1 320mg Saw Palmetto
1 400IU Vitamin E
1 serving BarelyMax

Zapping about 1 Hour a day.

At this point, he is very reluctant to try any other
alternative
stuff, as he feels that it's not exactly helping. He won't
even
discuss the topic with me, as he will say, "Let's see what
the doctors
want to do", which he's been telling me for several months
now. He
also tells me that he's taking too much pills, and will not
try the
parasite cleanse recommended by Dr. Hulda Clark, even though
I had
bought the products (Black Walnut Tinctiture, Wormwood
Capsules,
Cloves). If someone could please offer some words of
encouragment, or
some suggestions for treatment, I would sincerely appreciate
it.

Thanks,
Clint




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