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“A series of wives rather than a one night stand rock star lifestyle” would appear to be wide of the mark, given Brix and others’ biographies! ? Anyway, I’ve attached the review from “Gay Life”, May 1988, as Fallnetters appear not to have seen it. ? ? Dan ? Sent from for Windows ?
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From: wwalters@...Sent: 24 August 2021 04:12 To: [email protected]Subject: Re: [FallNet] Prolly olde/yesterday's newsvetc ? > “There’s misanthropy, and there’s whatever you’d call Mark E. Smith.” Okay, now that’s a good line, Tom Taylor… > *nina* > https://faroutmagazine.co.uk/mark-e-smith-reviewed-morrissey-first-album/ “ ? MES isn't a misanthrope, especially by today's screen and self obsessed standards. ? Largely on the road and in pubs. More social contact with far more people than most. ? A series of wives rather than a one night stand rock star lifestyle, as far as I can tell. ? The remark: something like "I met brix and so we got married" or some such. I wonder if that was a visa thing though - like Cleese and Connie Booth. ? His criticisms seem to be those of an artist and I love the "God help us if there's a war" initial reaction to the Smiths - spot on. I was and am now much happier when Morrissey is hated by the media establishment. It was horrible in the 2000s when everyone on telly was a Smiths fan, telling us how much better his shite middle aged albums were. I'm glad they never quite reduced MES to a national treasure, though they wanted to, but I am bitterly sorry he died when he did. I bet he would would have napalmed the fuckers expecting him to sit at home on handouts for 18 months playing with his ipad ? Cliff damn you, Nina, for making me read a music journalism article, but I cannot resist MES^Mozzer ? "there last LP hooked me with its poetry and power.”? Oh dear. But Tom Taylor published NINE articles today (yesterday) so we might forgive him ? He has published ca 1000 articles in the past six months. Bot? Fake name for unpaid interns? cold reheated cut n pastes? (this one rehashes a mag artcl) ? Yet he still has time to give moral lectures to his elders and betters, as is always the way with music journalists. Right back to the big names of the 1960s. ? MES escapes censure and even gets a condescending pat on the head by the simpering little teenaged prick in the article conclusion "how commendable it was for the punk frontman to contribute to a gay magazine in the era that it was written." ? Gosh yes. Remember all those punk frontmen like Sidney Viscous and Susan Sue who uses to wear swastikas in the mid 1980s and there were no free tampons in the men's toilets. Not in My Name said our Mark. ? How proud his family must be -- indeed we all should be -- that he has the commendation of Tom Taylor Fuck look at the time? ? ? ? ? ?
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Didn’t he also say to Caitlin Moran: “I’ve fucking fucked more fucking women that you’ve fucking had fucking hot fucking dinners” before starting on a mega rant that lasted about 10 mins?
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“A series of wives rather than a one night stand rock star lifestyle” would appear to be wide of the mark, given Brix and others’ biographies!
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Anyway, I’ve attached the review from “Gay Life”, May 1988, as Fallnetters appear not to have seen it. ?
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Sent: 24 August 2021 04:12
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Subject: Re: [FallNet] Prolly olde/yesterday's newsvetc
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> “There’s misanthropy, and there’s whatever you’d call Mark E. Smith.” Okay, now that’s a good line, Tom Taylor…
> *nina*
> https://faroutmagazine.co.uk/mark-e-smith-reviewed-morrissey-first-album/
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MES isn't a misanthrope, especially by today's screen and self obsessed standards.
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Largely on the road and in pubs. More social contact with far more people than most.
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A series of wives rather than a one night stand rock star lifestyle, as far as I can tell.
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The remark: something like "I met brix and so we got married" or some such. I wonder if that was a visa thing though - like Cleese and Connie Booth.
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His criticisms seem to be those of an artist and I love the "God help us if there's a war" initial reaction to the Smiths - spot on.
I was and am now much happier when Morrissey is hated by the media establishment. It was horrible in the 2000s when everyone on telly was a Smiths fan, telling us how much better his shite middle aged albums were.
I'm glad they never quite reduced MES to a national treasure, though they wanted to, but I am bitterly sorry he died when he did. I bet he would would have napalmed the fuckers expecting him to sit at home on handouts for 18 months playing
with his ipad
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Cliff damn you, Nina, for making me read a music journalism article, but I cannot resist MES^Mozzer
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"there last LP hooked me with its poetry and power.”? Oh dear.
But Tom Taylor published NINE articles today (yesterday) so we might forgive him
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He has published ca 1000 articles in the past six months.
Bot? Fake name for unpaid interns? cold reheated cut n pastes? (this one rehashes a mag artcl)
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Yet he still has time to give moral lectures to his elders and betters, as is always the way with music journalists. Right back to the big names of the 1960s.
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MES escapes censure and even gets a condescending pat on the head by the simpering little teenaged prick in the article conclusion
"how commendable it was for the punk frontman to contribute to a gay magazine in the era that it was written."
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Gosh yes. Remember all those punk frontmen like Sidney Viscous and Susan Sue who uses to wear swastikas in the mid 1980s and there were no free tampons in the men's toilets. Not in My Name said our Mark.
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How proud his family must be -- indeed we all should be -- that he has the commendation of Tom Taylor
Fuck look at the time
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"I've fucked more women than you've had hot dinners. But I don't look at women in magazines." He genuinely disapproved of pornography.
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It’s “I’ve fucked more women than you’ve ever seen...” in fact. ? ? Dan ? Sent from for Windows ?
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From: Mr P Johnson via groups.ioSent: 24 August 2021 12:22 To: [email protected]Subject: Re: [FallNet] Prolly olde/yesterday's newsvetc (MES review of Morrissey 1988) ? "I've fucked more women than you've had hot dinners. But I don't look at women in magazines." He genuinely disapproved of pornography.
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I fucking like my fucking version fucking better!
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It’s “I’ve fucked more women than you’ve ever seen...” in fact.
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From: Mr P Johnson via groups.io
Sent: 24 August 2021 12:22
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Subject: Re: [FallNet] Prolly olde/yesterday's newsvetc (MES review of Morrissey 1988)
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"I've fucked more women than you've had hot dinners. But I don't look at women in magazines." He genuinely disapproved of pornography.
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> “A series of wives rather than a one night stand rock star lifestyle” would appear to be wide of the mark, given Brix and others’ biographies!
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I knew I was risking a spout of bullshit - it was fucking 3 am you know.
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But the teenage cun't'paste journo wouldn't? know anyway.
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> Anyway, I’ve attached the review from “Gay Life”, May 1988, as Fallnetters appear not to have seen it. ?
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Yeah, right.
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Didn’t he also say to Caitlin Moran: “I’ve fucking fucked more fucking women that you’ve
fucking had fucking hot fucking dinners” before starting on a mega rant that lasted about 10 mins? adam What a shame. I thought at first you mean the former Bruce Jenner. Oh well. MES, the Tart with a Heart. No? is he in the Epstein contacts book? He's just a boy who cain't say no, He's in a turrible fix. He always say, come on, let's go Just when He orta say nix! He's jist a fool when lights are low, He cain't be prissy and quaint He ain't the type what can faint How can he be what he aint? He caint' say no! Bill ?
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Oh , that's OK. She's a tiresome pointless buffoon and he merely tosses crumbs to the pigeon-brain.
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They don't show him walking out with boredom after less than three minutes.
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From: Mr P Johnson via groups.ioSent: 24 August 2021 12:22 To: [email protected]Subject: Re: [FallNet] Prolly olde/yesterday's newsvetc (MES review of Morrissey 1988)
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"I've fucked more women than you've had hot dinners. But I don't look at women in magazines." He genuinely disapproved of pornography.
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I like her, she’s funny. ? Dan ? Sent from for Windows ?
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From: wwalters@...Sent: 26 August 2021 18:51 To: [email protected]Subject: Re: [FallNet] Prolly olde/yesterday's newsvetc (MES review of Morrissey 1988) ? Oh , that's OK. She's a tiresome pointless buffoon and he merely tosses crumbs to the pigeon-brain. ? They don't show him walking out with boredom after less than three minutes. ? ? ? -----Original-Nachricht----- Betreff: Re: [FallNet] Prolly olde/yesterday's newsvetc (MES review of Morrissey 1988) Datum: 2021-08-24T13:53:53+0200 Von: "dannyno" <dannyno@...> An: "[email protected]" <[email protected]> ? ? ? It’s “I’ve fucked more women than you’ve ever seen...” in fact. ? ? Dan ? Sent from for Windows ? ? "I've fucked more women than you've had hot dinners. But I don't look at women in magazines." He genuinely disapproved of pornography. ?
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MES said the darndest things, but I only ever understand every fifth word or so.? Still hoping someone will translate his interviews into King James English some day.
Perry? Late of the 90s Fall Listserv.?
Oh , that's OK. She's a tiresome pointless buffoon and he merely tosses crumbs to the pigeon-brain.
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They don't show him walking out with boredom after less than three minutes.
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An: "[email protected]" <[email protected]>
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"I've fucked more women than you've had hot dinners. But I don't look at women in magazines." He genuinely disapproved of pornography.
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Where you bin Perry?? What was last Fsll album you got?
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On Thu, 26 Aug 2021, 7:44 pm PERRY VASQUEZ, < plvasque@...> wrote: MES said the darndest things, but I only ever understand every fifth word or so.? Still hoping someone will translate his interviews into King James English some day.
Perry? Late of the 90s Fall Listserv.?
Oh , that's OK. She's a tiresome pointless buffoon and he merely tosses crumbs to the pigeon-brain.
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They don't show him walking out with boredom after less than three minutes.
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Datum: 2021-08-24T13:53:53+0200
Von: "dannyno" <dannyno@...>
An: "[email protected]" <[email protected]>
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It’s “I’ve fucked more women than you’ve ever seen...” in fact.
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"I've fucked more women than you've had hot dinners. But I don't look at women in magazines." He genuinely disapproved of pornography.
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Now there's another project to complement gigography, discography, and annotations... Captions for all instances of MES speaking...!
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Stve, I been moldering away on the West Coast all these many years, watching palm trees go up in flames. Lemme see, the last Fa;; album I "downloaded" was Code: Selfish. Also known around?this house as Cod: Shellfish. Occasionally?yours, Perry
Where you bin Perry?? What was last Fsll album you got?
stve
On Thu, 26 Aug 2021, 7:44 pm PERRY VASQUEZ, < plvasque@...> wrote: MES said the darndest things, but I only ever understand every fifth word or so.? Still hoping someone will translate his interviews into King James English some day.
Perry? Late of the 90s Fall Listserv.?
Oh , that's OK. She's a tiresome pointless buffoon and he merely tosses crumbs to the pigeon-brain.
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They don't show him walking out with boredom after less than three minutes.
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Von: "dannyno" <dannyno@...>
An: "[email protected]" <[email protected]>
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It’s “I’ve fucked more women than you’ve ever seen...” in fact.
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"I've fucked more women than you've had hot dinners. But I don't look at women in magazines." He genuinely disapproved of pornography.
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Dimitris, ...Sounds like thirsty work! Perry
On Fri, Aug 27, 2021 at 6:59 AM Dimitris Triantopoulos < mitsos@...> wrote: Now there's another project to complement gigography, discography, and annotations... Captions for all instances of MES speaking...!
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Perry: I think the last time I saw you was at the Casbah in Sandy Eggo... June, 2003?
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On Fri, Aug 27, 2021 at 8:09 AM PERRY VASQUEZ < plvasque@...> wrote: Stve, I been moldering away on the West Coast all these many years, watching palm trees go up in flames. Lemme see, the last Fa;; album I "downloaded" was Code: Selfish. Also known around?this house as Cod: Shellfish. Occasionally?yours, Perry
Where you bin Perry?? What was last Fsll album you got?
stve
On Thu, 26 Aug 2021, 7:44 pm PERRY VASQUEZ, < plvasque@...> wrote: MES said the darndest things, but I only ever understand every fifth word or so.? Still hoping someone will translate his interviews into King James English some day.
Perry? Late of the 90s Fall Listserv.?
Oh , that's OK. She's a tiresome pointless buffoon and he merely tosses crumbs to the pigeon-brain.
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They don't show him walking out with boredom after less than three minutes.
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An: "[email protected]" <[email protected]>
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It’s “I’ve fucked more women than you’ve ever seen...” in fact.
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On Aug 27, 2021, at 8:57 AM, Cole Coonce <cole.coonce@...> wrote:
? Perry: I think the last time I saw you was at the Casbah in Sandy Eggo... June, 2003?
CC On Fri, Aug 27, 2021 at 8:09 AM PERRY VASQUEZ < plvasque@...> wrote: Stve, I been moldering away on the West Coast all these many years, watching palm trees go up in flames. Lemme see, the last Fa;; album I "downloaded" was Code: Selfish. Also known around?this house as Cod: Shellfish. Occasionally?yours, Perry
Where you bin Perry?? What was last Fsll album you got?
stve
On Thu, 26 Aug 2021, 7:44 pm PERRY VASQUEZ, < plvasque@...> wrote: MES said the darndest things, but I only ever understand every fifth word or so.? Still hoping someone will translate his interviews into King James English some day.
Perry? Late of the 90s Fall Listserv.?
Oh , that's OK. She's a tiresome pointless buffoon and he merely tosses crumbs to the pigeon-brain.
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They don't show him walking out with boredom after less than three minutes.
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Von: "dannyno" <dannyno@...>
An: "[email protected]" <[email protected]>
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It’s “I’ve fucked more women than you’ve ever seen...” in fact.
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Dan
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Sent from for Windows
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"I've fucked more women than you've had hot dinners. But I don't look at women in magazines." He genuinely disapproved of pornography.
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