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Re: Hello'een

 

I used to have a web site that resembled that t-shirt ;)

Hello all! David Bivins here. Looks like I have some catching up to do. Still in Brooklyn, but now with a child and a mortgage, etc.

Rich, I believe I still owe you a 7" record. Feel free to send my your postal address and I'll get it to you posthaste. I'm not kidding when I say that I feel guilty every time I stumble over that record.


Re: Hello'een

 

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On Thu, 5 Nov 2020, 04:21 Alan Hamilton, <alan.hamilton@...> wrote:
Think my one is still in a drawer at home. Will investigate. Can we post photos on this? Looking forward to a discussion about flying robots with arms and legs

Alan

On Thu, 5 Nov 2020 at 11:37 AM, Jeff Curtis <jacurtis@...> wrote:
On Wed, Nov 4, 2020 at 2:12 PM Nina Woodson via <nina.ray=[email protected]> wrote:
Fallnet has t-shirts!!! Who's been keeping that news from me all this time? Want...
*nina*

yeah, I never got one either!?

JC?


Re: Hello'een

 

I let Peter Reavy know that FallNet is enjoying a revival. He's pleased to hear that and said he may join us.


Re: Deltic Balti ....

Adam Marshall
 

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I just pinged Biv an email. Maybe he¡¯ll join us.

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adam

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From: <[email protected]> on behalf of Older Brother Gert <harrygrimes@...>
Reply to: "[email protected]" <[email protected]>
Date: Friday, 6 November 2020 at 17:17
To: "[email protected]" <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: [FallNet] Deltic Balti ....

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Partial to the Beast of Bodmin Moor thread myself. Sorry about the mixup up; there was probably another maths professor on Fallnet on those days. But I know I got the cheese buntie part correct.

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This is all very strange as I did once lose a finger on my left hand in a motorcycle accident but it was re-attached and almost works well. This is hitting a little to close to home. I don't think a passing resemblance to Jeremy Beadle is the sort of thing one puts on one's life's resume.

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I remember meeting Stefan Cooke at one of the Brownie's/Coney Island High gigs in '98. Anyone recall David Bivins?

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ObFallCon: played Code:Selfish on the last weekend.

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OBGert

On 11/06/2020 11:26 AM Adam Marshall <adam.marshall@...> wrote:

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¡­¡­ was my favourite ever FallNet thread title.

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Thanks to KiddR for alerting me to this group. O how fantastic for a Friday afternoon, it¡¯s made my year, I often think back to those halcyon days.

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Anybody tracked down Melliferous Mel yet?

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For the record, I¡¯ve never been a Maths professor. Java Developer at Liverpool actually but I¡¯ve been in Oxford since 2004. Seen the Fall here a number of times.

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Gert absolutely looked like Jeremy Beadle. To tell the difference you had to examine all his fingers. That¡¯s the give-away. Gert never had the nerve to chop a finger off therefore his plan for world domination never succeeded.

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Unless you¡¯ve done this one to death, I¡¯d be interested to know who everybody¡¯s favourite band is these days. I¡¯m loopy about The Lovely Eggs.

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adam

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Re: So, anyway...

 

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Live memories are mostly with youse all. ?
London gigs, deconsecrated church halls and night clubs, an art gallery for
Fall Covers band in San Francisco. BUT
Last time I saw em was in wEllington on that last jaunt down here. Which was very interesting because all of my memories are entwined, with experiencing it and regurgitating it, with locals who have a mental version of The Fall Gruppe that is informed by the cartoon commentary that was mostly widely spread into the fairly interested media levels of rock journalism.?
Pissed his pants at Glastonbury, forked a journo, left teeth in Badly Drawn glove compartment, irrational dictatorial man manager, speed freak wino etc....
They considered it a side show over the years but this from people who almost to a (wo)man kept half an eye on The Gruppe due to having experienced the 82 band and still considered it one of the best live acts they ever saw. Jeremy and Steve at Slow Boat Records still call me Steve E Dean. They identify us by this association, fall fan is our culture. And though they had been good in Dorkland a day or two before, in Wellington they were f*cking superb..

stve



On 7/11/2020, at 5:17 AM, oliver.czoske@... wrote:

?I think it was a hotel, and yes, it was! Guest list, too, if I'm not mistaken.


Re: Deltic Balti ....

 

That was a great few days for me in NYC '98, meeting Fallnetters before the first Coney Island High gig. First night's gig itself was subpar, but the next night was very good. Biv was with us but I've lost track of him, and also of Peter Messian (sp?). I'm still in touch with Michael Pinto, Tony Arena (anonyrena), Hilda, David Plunkett, Eliot Van Buskirk, Mark Desrosiers, Jonathan Kandell, and a few others, though. Sent a message to Chris Kovin via Instagram but didn't get a response. As someone mentioned, Brent Colyer's no longer with us :( .?

Great to see you back on Fallnet OBG! Not sure where people got the idea that Fallnet died, it just slowed down to a crawl for a few years.

Stefan


On Fri, Nov 6, 2020 at 12:16 PM olderbrothergert <harrygrimes@...> wrote:
Partial to the Beast of Bodmin Moor thread myself. Sorry about the mixup up; there was probably another maths professor on Fallnet on those days. But I know I got the cheese buntie part correct.

This is all very strange as I did once lose a finger on my left hand in a motorcycle accident but it was re-attached and almost works well. This is hitting a little to close to home. I don't think a passing resemblance to Jeremy Beadle is the sort of thing one puts on one's life's resume.

I remember meeting Stefan Cooke at one of the Brownie's/Coney Island High gigs in '98. Anyone recall David Bivins?

ObFallCon: played Code:Selfish on the last weekend.

OBGert
On 11/06/2020 11:26 AM Adam Marshall <adam.marshall@...> wrote:


¡­¡­ was my favourite ever FallNet thread title.

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Thanks to KiddR for alerting me to this group. O how fantastic for a Friday afternoon, it¡¯s made my year, I often think back to those halcyon days.

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Anybody tracked down Melliferous Mel yet?

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For the record, I¡¯ve never been a Maths professor. Java Developer at Liverpool actually but I¡¯ve been in Oxford since 2004. Seen the Fall here a number of times.

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Gert absolutely looked like Jeremy Beadle. To tell the difference you had to examine all his fingers. That¡¯s the give-away. Gert never had the nerve to chop a finger off therefore his plan for world domination never succeeded.

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Unless you¡¯ve done this one to death, I¡¯d be interested to know who everybody¡¯s favourite band is these days. I¡¯m loopy about The Lovely Eggs.

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adam

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Re: Deltic Balti ....

 

Partial to the Beast of Bodmin Moor thread myself. Sorry about the mixup up; there was probably another maths professor on Fallnet on those days. But I know I got the cheese buntie part correct.

This is all very strange as I did once lose a finger on my left hand in a motorcycle accident but it was re-attached and almost works well. This is hitting a little to close to home. I don't think a passing resemblance to Jeremy Beadle is the sort of thing one puts on one's life's resume.

I remember meeting Stefan Cooke at one of the Brownie's/Coney Island High gigs in '98. Anyone recall David Bivins?

ObFallCon: played Code:Selfish on the last weekend.

OBGert

On 11/06/2020 11:26 AM Adam Marshall <adam.marshall@...> wrote:


¡­¡­ was my favourite ever FallNet thread title.

?

Thanks to KiddR for alerting me to this group. O how fantastic for a Friday afternoon, it¡¯s made my year, I often think back to those halcyon days.

?

Anybody tracked down Melliferous Mel yet?

?

For the record, I¡¯ve never been a Maths professor. Java Developer at Liverpool actually but I¡¯ve been in Oxford since 2004. Seen the Fall here a number of times.

?

Gert absolutely looked like Jeremy Beadle. To tell the difference you had to examine all his fingers. That¡¯s the give-away. Gert never had the nerve to chop a finger off therefore his plan for world domination never succeeded.

?

Unless you¡¯ve done this one to death, I¡¯d be interested to know who everybody¡¯s favourite band is these days. I¡¯m loopy about The Lovely Eggs.

?

adam

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Re: Deltic Balti ....

Adam Marshall
 

Just strap here to a chair and play 10 hours of Afro-Ibis Man. That'll do the trick.

I only lasted 40 seconds.

adam

?On 06/11/2020, 17:09, "[email protected] on behalf of Toby Blake" <[email protected] on behalf of tobyblake@...> wrote:

Ooh, I really liked their album last year (I think it was).

I'm very definitely not cool.

I told Mrs B about the joyful Fallnet resurrection news and her response
was very much along the lines of "That's nice, dear". Should I have her
killed?

Toby

On 6 Nov 2020, at 17:00, Alastair Reynolds via groups.io <alreynolds2004@...> wrote:
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> One of the things I miss about Fallnet is not being exposed to new musical recommendations on a regular basis, hence I basically listen to the
> same old crap as in 1997.
>
> i do quite like "Let''s Eat Grandma". Are they cool?
>
> Al


Re: Deltic Balti ....

 

Ooh, I really liked their album last year (I think it was).

I'm very definitely not cool.

I told Mrs B about the joyful Fallnet resurrection news and her response
was very much along the lines of "That's nice, dear". Should I have her
killed?

Toby

On 6 Nov 2020, at 17:00, Alastair Reynolds via groups.io <alreynolds2004@...> wrote:

One of the things I miss about Fallnet is not being exposed to new musical recommendations on a regular basis, hence I basically listen to the
same old crap as in 1997.

i do quite like "Let''s Eat Grandma". Are they cool?

Al


Re: Deltic Balti ....

Adam Marshall
 

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I LOVE that first Let¡¯s Eat Grandma album but the second is rubbish.

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I saw them ages ago and accidentally met one of the girls mum and dad. I found this out after I¡¯d called the band ¡°the future of music¡± but just before we took the wrong turn and bumped into a guy injecting heroin in an alleyway!

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Nice not to have put my foot in it for once in my life.

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adam

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From: <[email protected]> on behalf of "Alastair Reynolds via groups.io" <alreynolds2004@...>
Reply to: "[email protected]" <[email protected]>
Date: Friday, 6 November 2020 at 17:01
To: "[email protected]" <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: [FallNet] Deltic Balti ....

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One of the things I miss about Fallnet is not being exposed to new musical recommendations on a regular basis, hence I basically listen to the

same old crap as in 1997.

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i do quite like "Let''s Eat Grandma". Are they cool?

?

Al

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On Friday, 6 November 2020, 16:26:16 GMT, Adam Marshall <adam.marshall@...> wrote:

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Unless you¡¯ve done this one to death, I¡¯d be interested to know who everybody¡¯s favourite band is these days. I¡¯m loopy about The Lovely Eggs.

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adam

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Re: Hello'een

Adam Marshall
 

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Ooh that¡¯s a bit weird, I was just listening to Gideon Coe and he played Eliza Carthy at almost the same time as I read your email. I¡¯d never knowingly heard of her before. I¡¯m, like, totally freaked-out man.

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Adam

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From: <[email protected]> on behalf of "Alastair Reynolds via groups.io" <alreynolds2004@...>
Reply to: "[email protected]" <[email protected]>
Date: Friday, 6 November 2020 at 16:57
To: "[email protected]" <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: [FallNet] Hello'een

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Very good to see so many old names back on Fallnet! OBG!

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Just to add one more contact, I'm still in regular touch with Andrew "Barrie" Francis although

we seem to be criminally incapable of actually organising for a meet-up. I had a pint or two

with him before an Eliza Carthy gig a year or two back, but we've chatted since.

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Last saw The Fall in Cardiff a few years before the end. It was a good gig to go out on.

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As OBG says I used to work in Utrecht but my time at ESA was in Noordwiijk, at ESTEC.

which I seem to remember was one of the places that hosted Fallnet in the really early

days. I joined around 1994 by which time I think it had already moved on. There was always

a guy I used to see with a Cog-Sinister shirt around ESA so I guess he was one of the

early prime movers, but I didn't know him.

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My wife and I moved back to Wales in 2007. I still play vinyl; and still dig The Fall.

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Al

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On Friday, 6 November 2020, 15:35:09 GMT, olderbrothergert <harrygrimes@...> wrote:

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stve dean! Good sir, I often wondered the same about you down there in NZ. Glad to hear you are alive and well. I've still got a pile of books you mailed me.

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Other Fallnetters I recall; some have already been mentioned.

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Of course, R. Kidd who I was in touch with from time to time over the years.? I still the story - to anyone who will listen - about the fellow I know who was at the Leeds Uni gig in 1980.

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Jeff Curtis, Kandell, Gez, Stefan Cooke (Boston area), Rick Karr, NPR correspondent who went by "Grade D But Edible", Andrew Norman from Leicester, the late AJR - who I recall packing "all tomorrow's lunches" for his kids the night before school. I also remember "Vitas Gerulitis and The Encephalitis Experience" - one of many bands that Andrew drew up Fallnet in the wake of Mad Cow Disease.

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Contributions to the Lyrics Parade - I remember Jeff having a whole lot to with that along with many other Fallnetters.

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Adam Marshall - think he was a maths professor at Liverpool Uni. Last time I chatted with him he was researching a book on the Jamestown Colony and eating a cheese buntie. One of the Fallnetters I've met in person. Remember he thought I looked like Jeremy Beadle. I kind of did at the time.

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"Astro Al" Alastair Reynolds - now a famous science fiction author. You can by his books on Amazon. He used to work at the European Space Agency in the Holland, Utrecht if memory serves.

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Stuart Estell - "cerebral pasty" who did a cracking cover of My New House, retitled "My New Shirt". Brilliant.

?

This is still floating around out in the ether - for those that remember contributing to it. In the interest of inclusion, even for those that don't remember it:

?

OBGert

Look-back-bore to the stars

On 11/06/2020 5:12 AM steve dean <stevencharlesdean@...> wrote:

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My work OBG! ?Often wondered what you up to!

And Cole, Fallnets short story publisher.

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We should do the show right here!

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stve

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On 6/11/2020, at 10:06 AM, cole.coonce@... wrote:

>>>I've fallen through a trapdoor and landed in the 1990s<<<

The last decade when things were better.

CC


Re: Deltic Balti ....

 

One of the things I miss about Fallnet is not being exposed to new musical recommendations on a regular basis, hence I basically listen to the
same old crap as in 1997.

i do quite like "Let''s Eat Grandma". Are they cool?

Al



On Friday, 6 November 2020, 16:26:16 GMT, Adam Marshall <adam.marshall@...> wrote:

?

Unless you¡¯ve done this one to death, I¡¯d be interested to know who everybody¡¯s favourite band is these days. I¡¯m loopy about The Lovely Eggs.

?

adam

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Re: Hello'een

 

Very good to see so many old names back on Fallnet! OBG!

Just to add one more contact, I'm still in regular touch with Andrew "Barrie" Francis although
we seem to be criminally incapable of actually organising for a meet-up. I had a pint or two
with him before an Eliza Carthy gig a year or two back, but we've chatted since.

Last saw The Fall in Cardiff a few years before the end. It was a good gig to go out on.

As OBG says I used to work in Utrecht but my time at ESA was in Noordwiijk, at ESTEC.
which I seem to remember was one of the places that hosted Fallnet in the really early
days. I joined around 1994 by which time I think it had already moved on. There was always
a guy I used to see with a Cog-Sinister shirt around ESA so I guess he was one of the
early prime movers, but I didn't know him.

My wife and I moved back to Wales in 2007. I still play vinyl; and still dig The Fall.

Al








On Friday, 6 November 2020, 15:35:09 GMT, olderbrothergert <harrygrimes@...> wrote:


stve dean! Good sir, I often wondered the same about you down there in NZ. Glad to hear you are alive and well. I've still got a pile of books you mailed me.

Other Fallnetters I recall; some have already been mentioned.

Of course, R. Kidd who I was in touch with from time to time over the years.? I still the story - to anyone who will listen - about the fellow I know who was at the Leeds Uni gig in 1980.

Jeff Curtis, Kandell, Gez, Stefan Cooke (Boston area), Rick Karr, NPR correspondent who went by "Grade D But Edible", Andrew Norman from Leicester, the late AJR - who I recall packing "all tomorrow's lunches" for his kids the night before school. I also remember "Vitas Gerulitis and The Encephalitis Experience" - one of many bands that Andrew drew up Fallnet in the wake of Mad Cow Disease.

Contributions to the Lyrics Parade - I remember Jeff having a whole lot to with that along with many other Fallnetters.

Adam Marshall - think he was a maths professor at Liverpool Uni. Last time I chatted with him he was researching a book on the Jamestown Colony and eating a cheese buntie. One of the Fallnetters I've met in person. Remember he thought I looked like Jeremy Beadle. I kind of did at the time.

"Astro Al" Alastair Reynolds - now a famous science fiction author. You can by his books on Amazon. He used to work at the European Space Agency in the Holland, Utrecht if memory serves.

Stuart Estell - "cerebral pasty" who did a cracking cover of My New House, retitled "My New Shirt". Brilliant.

This is still floating around out in the ether - for those that remember contributing to it. In the interest of inclusion, even for those that don't remember it:


OBGert
Look-back-bore to the stars

On 11/06/2020 5:12 AM steve dean <stevencharlesdean@...> wrote:


My work OBG! ?Often wondered what you up to!

And Cole, Fallnets short story publisher.

We should do the show right here!

stve


On 6/11/2020, at 10:06 AM, cole.coonce@... wrote:

>>>I've fallen through a trapdoor and landed in the 1990s<<<

The last decade when things were better.

CC


Re: Hello'een

 

Hi Gert,

I'm sure I remember you outing yourself as having a real name which,
shocking, wasn't even Gert. No, don't tell me. I'm going to see if I
can remember it.

Toby

On 6 Nov 2020, at 16:52, olderbrothergert <harrygrimes@...> wrote:

Greets Toby, and all the others I have missed over the years. The email address has changed several times since the old list collapsed. But I did re-adopt the obg moniker here since that's likely how most people remember me.

OBGert

On 11/06/2020 10:45 AM Toby Blake <tobyblake@...> wrote:


Hi OBG!

I'm curious - has your email address been 'olderbrothergert' in the
intervening years between the virtual death of FallNet and it's current
magnificent rebirth, or did you just change it to that when you joined
the new list?

I have images of you sending business emails, etc.

Toby







Re: Hello'een

 

Greets Toby, and all the others I have missed over the years. The email address has changed several times since the old list collapsed. But I did re-adopt the obg moniker here since that's likely how most people remember me.

OBGert

On 11/06/2020 10:45 AM Toby Blake <tobyblake@...> wrote:


Hi OBG!

I'm curious - has your email address been 'olderbrothergert' in the
intervening years between the virtual death of FallNet and it's current
magnificent rebirth, or did you just change it to that when you joined
the new list?

I have images of you sending business emails, etc.

Toby




Re: Deltic Balti ....

 

Hello,

Peel Dream Magazine has gotten a lot of play in the household these last few months!

Sean P.

Unless you¡¯ve done this one to death, I¡¯d be interested to know who everybody¡¯s favourite band is these days. I¡¯m loopy about The Lovely Eggs.

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adam

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--
Sean Padilla
(704) 488-1030


Re: Deltic Balti ....

 

>>>?I¡¯d be interested to know who everybody¡¯s favourite band is these days.<<<

Sleaford Mods and I, Ludicrous have eased the lockdown fever in our household.

CC


Re: Deltic Balti ....

 

Hi Adam!

Unless you¡¯ve done this one to death, I¡¯d be interested to know who everybody¡¯s favourite band is these days. I¡¯m loopy about The Lovely Eggs.
Hang on a minute - you have to say the Fall, don't you? It's the group charter. Jeff! JEFF!! I think it's time for the purges to begin.

Toby


Deltic Balti ....

Adam Marshall
 

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¡­¡­ was my favourite ever FallNet thread title.

?

Thanks to KiddR for alerting me to this group. O how fantastic for a Friday afternoon, it¡¯s made my year, I often think back to those halcyon days.

?

Anybody tracked down Melliferous Mel yet?

?

For the record, I¡¯ve never been a Maths professor. Java Developer at Liverpool actually but I¡¯ve been in Oxford since 2004. Seen the Fall here a number of times.

?

Gert absolutely looked like Jeremy Beadle. To tell the difference you had to examine all his fingers. That¡¯s the give-away. Gert never had the nerve to chop a finger off therefore his plan for world domination never succeeded.

?

Unless you¡¯ve done this one to death, I¡¯d be interested to know who everybody¡¯s favourite band is these days. I¡¯m loopy about The Lovely Eggs.

?

adam

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Re: So, anyway...

 

I think it was a hotel, and yes, it was! Guest list, too, if I'm not mistaken.