Hey Ralph, are you ever going to dig that Dalton out of storage and set it up?? Your friends?back at the NAMEs show said you also have a couple of clocks in your home.? Someone said you were a bit of a hoarder just like me?.? So I have had over sixty lathes in the last 30 years. How many clocks do you have:-)))))? I don't?remember you saying you had a lever tailstock?Ralph.? Yours make four then that we know of. It's a shame that the NAMEs show is no more.? My buddy? Ratshooter was with me when we met you there and have made good friends?with one of the board members from that show.? Karl Gross is his name and he is the one that conned Tim and me to come back to the show in 2016. Hope you're doing?well Ralph and again thank you for letting me use your lever collet closer for the Dalton I had at the NAMEs show and also used in the seminar that Ratshooter and I put on on Sunday morning.? Dennis
On Thu, Dec 14, 2023 at 4:24?PM Ralph < rferone@...> wrote:
Dennis, I have a lever operated tailstock on my Dalton.
Ralph
Dennis Turk wrote:
Rick I have the?first lever operated
tailstock?found way back in 2003 when I went to Susanville
Comifornia?and picked up the first pedal lathe found.? I have
all the history on? that lathe.? It is also one I have never
restored. I believe there is one more lever?operated
tailstock?out there I think. For you guys that have never used
one of these kinds of tail stocks Dalton had the very?best one
though SB as well as Atlas made one they just did not work as
nice as Daltons.
On Thu, Dec 14, 2023 at
2:56?PM Rick Clayton via <rjc112979= [email protected]>
wrote:
On Thu, Dec 14, 2023 at 5:08 PM, Dennis Turk
One other little bit of information about
the overhead drives Dalton built.? These drives were
used on all m models?of Daltons except the TL as it
had a different?design drive if ordered with the
overhead setup.? So the silent chain drives were very
large and looked huge when mounted on the little Lot 4
or Lot 5.? Nots so much on the Lot 6 or Dalton 9.? The
overhead drive you see in my video is mounted on a Lot
6 but is the identical drive to what is on Ricks Lot
5.? Dennis.
On Thu, Dec 14, 2023 at 2:00?PM Dennis
Turk via
<dennisturk448= [email protected]>
wrote:
Rick if you ordered your Dalton with
the overhead drive and for bench mount you got the
much larger bed feet to support the large weight
up high. I had a set of these but both had been
broken and poorly welded?back together.? Gray
Pilgrim now has that lathe..? Or AK Bart, another
Oregon Dalton owner:-))))) The pictures show what
this lathe looked like when? I picked it up in San
Francisco.? This lathe was given to me all I had
to do was pick it up.? As you can see this lathe
has the third version of the overhead drive that
Dalton built.? What is missing is a large guard
casting that covers the two silent chain drives.?
There was a gear setup at the end of the motor
shaft where you shifted gears for reveres. The
motor shaft had one sprocket?for the silent chain
and also a gear for driving the reverse?setup. It
was like the other two drives way over engineered
and was?complicated and prone to lots of noise?and
wear.? Also these overhead derives?coast as much
as the lathe did.
Dennis
On Thu, Dec 14, 2023 at 1:20?PM
Rick Clayton via
<rjc112979= [email protected]>
wrote:
This lathe
also has larger bed feet a draw bar for the
headstock and the lever operated tailstock.?
On Thu, Dec 14, 2023 at 1:57 PM, Dennis
Turk
Picture was taken in the
front entry of Turk Mfg. Hillsboro
Oregon where it was displayed with
many other machines that I have
restored.
If you have looked at
the photo of my later model Lot 5
you will note the clutch lever is
now located differently.? This
drive only has one clutch for on
and off function.? The motor is
operated by a large forward
reverse?switch mounted on the back
side of the drive vertical
column?and is operated by moving
the wood handle you see on the
back side of the lathe.? It's a
bit odd that not only did the
drive have a clutch but the motor
start stop and reverse function
was controlled by a switch.?
Answer,? The clutch freed?up the
countershaft from the silent chain
and motor making it easier to
rotate the spindle by hand for
setups. This lathe was found at
the very tip of the ponisia that
runs North from Green Bay up into
lake Michigan.? Was owned by a
retired teacher that had had it
for over 50 years but had never
set it up to run in all that
time.? He said he did move it
three times in the 50 years.? So
for sure this lathe has not cut a
chip in over 75 years.
On Thu, Dec 14,
2023 at 10:44?AM Dennis Turk via
<dennisturk448= [email protected]>
wrote:
Hi Rick
Your Lot 5 is equipped
with the first
generation?overhead?drive.?
I see you're missing the
little disk that gave you
access to adjusting the
clutches.? My 1917 Lot 6
also has this drive but I
have an early 1922 Lot 5
with the next version of
the overhead drive that
Dalton built.? PIcture
included.? If you have run
your lathe you will? note
the noise?that comes from
the silent chain drive.? I
have always found the
name?silent chain kind of
funny as they are noise?as
heck.? My Lot 6 is as close
to brand new as one could
possibly find and it's?still
noisy.? Dennis
On Thu, Dec 14,
2023 at 8:25?AM Rick Clayton
via
<rjc112979= [email protected]>
wrote:
Picked this up in Massachusetts
today.
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Dennis, I have a lever operated tailstock on my Dalton.
Ralph
Dennis Turk wrote:
Rick I have the?first lever operated
tailstock?found way back in 2003 when I went to Susanville
Comifornia?and picked up the first pedal lathe found.? I have
all the history on? that lathe.? It is also one I have never
restored. I believe there is one more lever?operated
tailstock?out there I think. For you guys that have never used
one of these kinds of tail stocks Dalton had the very?best one
though SB as well as Atlas made one they just did not work as
nice as Daltons.
On Thu, Dec 14, 2023 at
2:56?PM Rick Clayton via <rjc112979= [email protected]>
wrote:
On Thu, Dec 14, 2023 at 5:08 PM, Dennis Turk
One other little bit of information about
the overhead drives Dalton built.? These drives were
used on all m models?of Daltons except the TL as it
had a different?design drive if ordered with the
overhead setup.? So the silent chain drives were very
large and looked huge when mounted on the little Lot 4
or Lot 5.? Nots so much on the Lot 6 or Dalton 9.? The
overhead drive you see in my video is mounted on a Lot
6 but is the identical drive to what is on Ricks Lot
5.? Dennis.
On Thu, Dec 14, 2023 at 2:00?PM Dennis
Turk via
<dennisturk448= [email protected]>
wrote:
Rick if you ordered your Dalton with
the overhead drive and for bench mount you got the
much larger bed feet to support the large weight
up high. I had a set of these but both had been
broken and poorly welded?back together.? Gray
Pilgrim now has that lathe..? Or AK Bart, another
Oregon Dalton owner:-))))) The pictures show what
this lathe looked like when? I picked it up in San
Francisco.? This lathe was given to me all I had
to do was pick it up.? As you can see this lathe
has the third version of the overhead drive that
Dalton built.? What is missing is a large guard
casting that covers the two silent chain drives.?
There was a gear setup at the end of the motor
shaft where you shifted gears for reveres. The
motor shaft had one sprocket?for the silent chain
and also a gear for driving the reverse?setup. It
was like the other two drives way over engineered
and was?complicated and prone to lots of noise?and
wear.? Also these overhead derives?coast as much
as the lathe did.
Dennis
On Thu, Dec 14, 2023 at 1:20?PM
Rick Clayton via
<rjc112979= [email protected]>
wrote:
This lathe
also has larger bed feet a draw bar for the
headstock and the lever operated tailstock.?
On Thu, Dec 14, 2023 at 1:57 PM, Dennis
Turk
Picture was taken in the
front entry of Turk Mfg. Hillsboro
Oregon where it was displayed with
many other machines that I have
restored.
If you have looked at
the photo of my later model Lot 5
you will note the clutch lever is
now located differently.? This
drive only has one clutch for on
and off function.? The motor is
operated by a large forward
reverse?switch mounted on the back
side of the drive vertical
column?and is operated by moving
the wood handle you see on the
back side of the lathe.? It's a
bit odd that not only did the
drive have a clutch but the motor
start stop and reverse function
was controlled by a switch.?
Answer,? The clutch freed?up the
countershaft from the silent chain
and motor making it easier to
rotate the spindle by hand for
setups. This lathe was found at
the very tip of the ponisia that
runs North from Green Bay up into
lake Michigan.? Was owned by a
retired teacher that had had it
for over 50 years but had never
set it up to run in all that
time.? He said he did move it
three times in the 50 years.? So
for sure this lathe has not cut a
chip in over 75 years.
On Thu, Dec 14,
2023 at 10:44?AM Dennis Turk via
<dennisturk448= [email protected]>
wrote:
Hi Rick
Your Lot 5 is equipped
with the first
generation?overhead?drive.?
I see you're missing the
little disk that gave you
access to adjusting the
clutches.? My 1917 Lot 6
also has this drive but I
have an early 1922 Lot 5
with the next version of
the overhead drive that
Dalton built.? PIcture
included.? If you have run
your lathe you will? note
the noise?that comes from
the silent chain drive.? I
have always found the
name?silent chain kind of
funny as they are noise?as
heck.? My Lot 6 is as close
to brand new as one could
possibly find and it's?still
noisy.? Dennis
On Thu, Dec 14,
2023 at 8:25?AM Rick Clayton
via
<rjc112979= [email protected]>
wrote:
Picked this up in Massachusetts
today.
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Rick I have the?first lever operated tailstock?found way back in 2003 when I went to Susanville Comifornia?and picked up the first pedal lathe found.? I have all the history on? that lathe.? It is also one I have never restored. I believe there is one more lever?operated tailstock?out there I think. For you guys that have never used one of these kinds of tail stocks Dalton had the very?best one though SB as well as Atlas made one they just did not work as nice as Daltons.
On Thu, Dec 14, 2023 at 2:56?PM Rick Clayton via <rjc112979= [email protected]> wrote:  
On Thu, Dec 14, 2023 at 5:08 PM, Dennis Turk One other little bit of information about the overhead drives Dalton built.? These drives were used on all m models?of Daltons except the TL as it had a different?design drive if ordered with the overhead setup.? So the silent chain drives were very large and looked huge when mounted on the little Lot 4 or Lot 5.? Nots so much on the Lot 6 or Dalton 9.? The overhead drive you see in my video is mounted on a Lot 6 but is the identical drive to what is on Ricks Lot 5.? Dennis. On Thu, Dec 14, 2023 at 2:00?PM Dennis Turk via <dennisturk448= [email protected]> wrote: Rick if you ordered your Dalton with the overhead drive and for bench mount you got the much larger bed feet to support the large weight up high. I had a set of these but both had been broken and poorly welded?back together.? Gray Pilgrim now has that lathe..? Or AK Bart, another Oregon Dalton owner:-))))) The pictures show what this lathe looked like when? I picked it up in San Francisco.? This lathe was given to me all I had to do was pick it up.? As you can see this lathe has the third version of the overhead drive that Dalton built.? What is missing is a large guard casting that covers the two silent chain drives.? There was a gear setup at the end of the motor shaft where you shifted gears for reveres. The motor shaft had one sprocket?for the silent chain and also a gear for driving the reverse?setup. It was like the other two drives way over engineered and was?complicated and prone to lots of noise?and wear.? Also these overhead derives?coast as much as the lathe did. Dennis
On Thu, Dec 14, 2023 at 1:20?PM Rick Clayton via <rjc112979= [email protected]> wrote: This lathe also has larger bed feet a draw bar for the headstock and the lever operated tailstock.?
On Thu, Dec 14, 2023 at 1:57 PM, Dennis Turk Picture was taken in the front entry of Turk Mfg. Hillsboro Oregon where it was displayed with many other machines that I have restored. If you have looked at the photo of my later model Lot 5 you will note the clutch lever is now located differently.? This drive only has one clutch for on and off function.? The motor is operated by a large forward reverse?switch mounted on the back side of the drive vertical column?and is operated by moving the wood handle you see on the back side of the lathe.? It's a bit odd that not only did the drive have a clutch but the motor start stop and reverse function was controlled by a switch.? Answer,? The clutch freed?up the countershaft from the silent chain and motor making it easier to rotate the spindle by hand for setups. This lathe was found at the very tip of the ponisia that runs North from Green Bay up into lake Michigan.? Was owned by a retired teacher that had had it for over 50 years but had never set it up to run in all that time.? He said he did move it three times in the 50 years.? So for sure this lathe has not cut a chip in over 75 years.
On Thu, Dec 14, 2023 at 10:44?AM Dennis Turk via <dennisturk448= [email protected]> wrote: Hi Rick
Your Lot 5 is equipped with the first generation?overhead?drive.? I see you're missing the little disk that gave you access to adjusting the clutches.? My 1917 Lot 6 also has this drive but I have an early 1922 Lot 5 with the next version of the overhead drive that Dalton built.? PIcture included.? If you have run your lathe you will? note the noise?that comes from the silent chain drive.? I have always found the name?silent chain kind of funny as they are noise?as heck.? My Lot 6 is as close to brand new as one could possibly find and it's?still noisy.? Dennis
On Thu, Dec 14, 2023 at 8:25?AM Rick Clayton via <rjc112979= [email protected]> wrote: Picked this up in Massachusetts today.
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Also has some change gears, collets,? thread dial indicator, face plate, collet draw bar. How many daltons are knots have this type of tailstock l?
On Thu, Dec 14, 2023 at 5:08 PM, Dennis Turk <dennisturk448@...> wrote: One other little bit of information about the overhead drives Dalton built.? These drives were used on all m models?of Daltons except the TL as it had a different?design drive if ordered with the overhead setup.? So the silent chain drives were very large and looked huge when mounted on the little Lot 4 or Lot 5.? Nots so much on the Lot 6 or Dalton 9.? The overhead drive you see in my video is mounted on a Lot 6 but is the identical drive to what is on Ricks Lot 5.? Dennis. On Thu, Dec 14, 2023 at 2:00?PM Dennis Turk via <dennisturk448= [email protected]> wrote: Rick if you ordered your Dalton with the overhead drive and for bench mount you got the much larger bed feet to support the large weight up high. I had a set of these but both had been broken and poorly welded?back together.? Gray Pilgrim now has that lathe..? Or AK Bart, another Oregon Dalton owner:-))))) The pictures show what this lathe looked like when? I picked it up in San Francisco.? This lathe was given to me all I had to do was pick it up.? As you can see this lathe has the third version of the overhead drive that Dalton built.? What is missing is a large guard casting that covers the two silent chain drives.? There was a gear setup at the end of the motor shaft where you shifted gears for reveres. The motor shaft had one sprocket?for the silent chain and also a gear for driving the reverse?setup. It was like the other two drives way over engineered and was?complicated and prone to lots of noise?and wear.? Also these overhead derives?coast as much as the lathe did. Dennis
On Thu, Dec 14, 2023 at 1:20?PM Rick Clayton via <rjc112979= [email protected]> wrote: This lathe also has larger bed feet a draw bar for the headstock and the lever operated tailstock.?
On Thu, Dec 14, 2023 at 1:57 PM, Dennis Turk Picture was taken in the front entry of Turk Mfg. Hillsboro Oregon where it was displayed with many other machines that I have restored. If you have looked at the photo of my later model Lot 5 you will note the clutch lever is now located differently.? This drive only has one clutch for on and off function.? The motor is operated by a large forward reverse?switch mounted on the back side of the drive vertical column?and is operated by moving the wood handle you see on the back side of the lathe.? It's a bit odd that not only did the drive have a clutch but the motor start stop and reverse function was controlled by a switch.? Answer,? The clutch freed?up the countershaft from the silent chain and motor making it easier to rotate the spindle by hand for setups. This lathe was found at the very tip of the ponisia that runs North from Green Bay up into lake Michigan.? Was owned by a retired teacher that had had it for over 50 years but had never set it up to run in all that time.? He said he did move it three times in the 50 years.? So for sure this lathe has not cut a chip in over 75 years.
On Thu, Dec 14, 2023 at 10:44?AM Dennis Turk via <dennisturk448= [email protected]> wrote: Hi Rick
Your Lot 5 is equipped with the first generation?overhead?drive.? I see you're missing the little disk that gave you access to adjusting the clutches.? My 1917 Lot 6 also has this drive but I have an early 1922 Lot 5 with the next version of the overhead drive that Dalton built.? PIcture included.? If you have run your lathe you will? note the noise?that comes from the silent chain drive.? I have always found the name?silent chain kind of funny as they are noise?as heck.? My Lot 6 is as close to brand new as one could possibly find and it's?still noisy.? Dennis
On Thu, Dec 14, 2023 at 8:25?AM Rick Clayton via <rjc112979= [email protected]> wrote: Picked this up in Massachusetts today.
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One other little bit of information about the overhead drives Dalton built.? These drives were used on all m models?of Daltons except the TL as it had a different?design drive if ordered with the overhead setup.? So the silent chain drives were very large and looked huge when mounted on the little Lot 4 or Lot 5.? Nots so much on the Lot 6 or Dalton 9.? The overhead drive you see in my video is mounted on a Lot 6 but is the identical drive to what is on Ricks Lot 5.? Dennis.
On Thu, Dec 14, 2023 at 2:00?PM Dennis Turk via <dennisturk448= [email protected]> wrote: Rick if you ordered your Dalton with the overhead drive and for bench mount you got the much larger bed feet to support the large weight up high. I had a set of these but both had been broken and poorly welded?back together.? Gray Pilgrim now has that lathe..? Or AK Bart, another Oregon Dalton owner:-))))) The pictures show what this lathe looked like when? I picked it up in San Francisco.? This lathe was given to me all I had to do was pick it up.? As you can see this lathe has the third version of the overhead drive that Dalton built.? What is missing is a large guard casting that covers the two silent chain drives.? There was a gear setup at the end of the motor shaft where you shifted gears for reveres. The motor shaft had one sprocket?for the silent chain and also a gear for driving the reverse?setup. It was like the other two drives way over engineered and was?complicated and prone to lots of noise?and wear.? Also these overhead derives?coast as much as the lathe did. Dennis
On Thu, Dec 14, 2023 at 1:20?PM Rick Clayton via <rjc112979= [email protected]> wrote: This lathe also has larger bed feet a draw bar for the headstock and the lever operated tailstock.?
On Thu, Dec 14, 2023 at 1:57 PM, Dennis Turk Picture was taken in the front entry of Turk Mfg. Hillsboro Oregon where it was displayed with many other machines that I have restored. If you have looked at the photo of my later model Lot 5 you will note the clutch lever is now located differently.? This drive only has one clutch for on and off function.? The motor is operated by a large forward reverse?switch mounted on the back side of the drive vertical column?and is operated by moving the wood handle you see on the back side of the lathe.? It's a bit odd that not only did the drive have a clutch but the motor start stop and reverse function was controlled by a switch.? Answer,? The clutch freed?up the countershaft from the silent chain and motor making it easier to rotate the spindle by hand for setups. This lathe was found at the very tip of the ponisia that runs North from Green Bay up into lake Michigan.? Was owned by a retired teacher that had had it for over 50 years but had never set it up to run in all that time.? He said he did move it three times in the 50 years.? So for sure this lathe has not cut a chip in over 75 years.
On Thu, Dec 14, 2023 at 10:44?AM Dennis Turk via <dennisturk448= [email protected]> wrote: Hi Rick
Your Lot 5 is equipped with the first generation?overhead?drive.? I see you're missing the little disk that gave you access to adjusting the clutches.? My 1917 Lot 6 also has this drive but I have an early 1922 Lot 5 with the next version of the overhead drive that Dalton built.? PIcture included.? If you have run your lathe you will? note the noise?that comes from the silent chain drive.? I have always found the name?silent chain kind of funny as they are noise?as heck.? My Lot 6 is as close to brand new as one could possibly find and it's?still noisy.? Dennis
On Thu, Dec 14, 2023 at 8:25?AM Rick Clayton via <rjc112979= [email protected]> wrote: Picked this up in Massachusetts today.
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What is the advantage of the lever operated tailstock?
On Thu, Dec 14, 2023 at 5:00 PM, Dennis Turk <dennisturk448@...> wrote: Rick if you ordered your Dalton with the overhead drive and for bench mount you got the much larger bed feet to support the large weight up high. I had a set of these but both had been broken and poorly welded?back together.? Gray Pilgrim now has that lathe..? Or AK Bart, another Oregon Dalton owner:-))))) The pictures show what this lathe looked like when? I picked it up in San Francisco.? This lathe was given to me all I had to do was pick it up.? As you can see this lathe has the third version of the overhead drive that Dalton built.? What is missing is a large guard casting that covers the two silent chain drives.? There was a gear setup at the end of the motor shaft where you shifted gears for reveres. The motor shaft had one sprocket?for the silent chain and also a gear for driving the reverse?setup. It was like the other two drives way over engineered and was?complicated and prone to lots of noise?and wear.? Also these overhead derives?coast as much as the lathe did. Dennis On Thu, Dec 14, 2023 at 1:20?PM Rick Clayton via <rjc112979= [email protected]> wrote: This lathe also has larger bed feet a draw bar for the headstock and the lever operated tailstock.?
On Thu, Dec 14, 2023 at 1:57 PM, Dennis Turk Picture was taken in the front entry of Turk Mfg. Hillsboro Oregon where it was displayed with many other machines that I have restored. If you have looked at the photo of my later model Lot 5 you will note the clutch lever is now located differently.? This drive only has one clutch for on and off function.? The motor is operated by a large forward reverse?switch mounted on the back side of the drive vertical column?and is operated by moving the wood handle you see on the back side of the lathe.? It's a bit odd that not only did the drive have a clutch but the motor start stop and reverse function was controlled by a switch.? Answer,? The clutch freed?up the countershaft from the silent chain and motor making it easier to rotate the spindle by hand for setups. This lathe was found at the very tip of the ponisia that runs North from Green Bay up into lake Michigan.? Was owned by a retired teacher that had had it for over 50 years but had never set it up to run in all that time.? He said he did move it three times in the 50 years.? So for sure this lathe has not cut a chip in over 75 years.
On Thu, Dec 14, 2023 at 10:44?AM Dennis Turk via <dennisturk448= [email protected]> wrote: Hi Rick
Your Lot 5 is equipped with the first generation?overhead?drive.? I see you're missing the little disk that gave you access to adjusting the clutches.? My 1917 Lot 6 also has this drive but I have an early 1922 Lot 5 with the next version of the overhead drive that Dalton built.? PIcture included.? If you have run your lathe you will? note the noise?that comes from the silent chain drive.? I have always found the name?silent chain kind of funny as they are noise?as heck.? My Lot 6 is as close to brand new as one could possibly find and it's?still noisy.? Dennis
On Thu, Dec 14, 2023 at 8:25?AM Rick Clayton via <rjc112979= [email protected]> wrote: Picked this up in Massachusetts today.
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Rick if you ordered your Dalton with the overhead drive and for bench mount you got the much larger bed feet to support the large weight up high. I had a set of these but both had been broken and poorly welded?back together.? Gray Pilgrim now has that lathe..? Or AK Bart, another Oregon Dalton owner:-))))) The pictures show what this lathe looked like when? I picked it up in San Francisco.? This lathe was given to me all I had to do was pick it up.? As you can see this lathe has the third version of the overhead drive that Dalton built.? What is missing is a large guard casting that covers the two silent chain drives.? There was a gear setup at the end of the motor shaft where you shifted gears for reveres. The motor shaft had one sprocket?for the silent chain and also a gear for driving the reverse?setup. It was like the other two drives way over engineered and was?complicated and prone to lots of noise?and wear.? Also these overhead derives?coast as much as the lathe did. Dennis
On Thu, Dec 14, 2023 at 1:20?PM Rick Clayton via <rjc112979= [email protected]> wrote: This lathe also has larger bed feet a draw bar for the headstock and the lever operated tailstock.?
On Thu, Dec 14, 2023 at 1:57 PM, Dennis Turk Picture was taken in the front entry of Turk Mfg. Hillsboro Oregon where it was displayed with many other machines that I have restored. If you have looked at the photo of my later model Lot 5 you will note the clutch lever is now located differently.? This drive only has one clutch for on and off function.? The motor is operated by a large forward reverse?switch mounted on the back side of the drive vertical column?and is operated by moving the wood handle you see on the back side of the lathe.? It's a bit odd that not only did the drive have a clutch but the motor start stop and reverse function was controlled by a switch.? Answer,? The clutch freed?up the countershaft from the silent chain and motor making it easier to rotate the spindle by hand for setups. This lathe was found at the very tip of the ponisia that runs North from Green Bay up into lake Michigan.? Was owned by a retired teacher that had had it for over 50 years but had never set it up to run in all that time.? He said he did move it three times in the 50 years.? So for sure this lathe has not cut a chip in over 75 years.
On Thu, Dec 14, 2023 at 10:44?AM Dennis Turk via <dennisturk448= [email protected]> wrote: Hi Rick
Your Lot 5 is equipped with the first generation?overhead?drive.? I see you're missing the little disk that gave you access to adjusting the clutches.? My 1917 Lot 6 also has this drive but I have an early 1922 Lot 5 with the next version of the overhead drive that Dalton built.? PIcture included.? If you have run your lathe you will? note the noise?that comes from the silent chain drive.? I have always found the name?silent chain kind of funny as they are noise?as heck.? My Lot 6 is as close to brand new as one could possibly find and it's?still noisy.? Dennis
On Thu, Dec 14, 2023 at 8:25?AM Rick Clayton via <rjc112979= [email protected]> wrote: Picked this up in Massachusetts today.
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This lathe also has larger bed feet a draw bar for the headstock and the lever operated tailstock.?
On Thu, Dec 14, 2023 at 1:57 PM, Dennis Turk <dennisturk448@...> wrote: Picture was taken in the front entry of Turk Mfg. Hillsboro Oregon where it was displayed with many other machines that I have restored. If you have looked at the photo of my later model Lot 5 you will note the clutch lever is now located differently.? This drive only has one clutch for on and off function.? The motor is operated by a large forward reverse?switch mounted on the back side of the drive vertical column?and is operated by moving the wood handle you see on the back side of the lathe.? It's a bit odd that not only did the drive have a clutch but the motor start stop and reverse function was controlled by a switch.? Answer,? The clutch freed?up the countershaft from the silent chain and motor making it easier to rotate the spindle by hand for setups. This lathe was found at the very tip of the ponisia that runs North from Green Bay up into lake Michigan.? Was owned by a retired teacher that had had it for over 50 years but had never set it up to run in all that time.? He said he did move it three times in the 50 years.? So for sure this lathe has not cut a chip in over 75 years.
On Thu, Dec 14, 2023 at 10:44?AM Dennis Turk via <dennisturk448= [email protected]> wrote: Hi Rick
Your Lot 5 is equipped with the first generation?overhead?drive.? I see you're missing the little disk that gave you access to adjusting the clutches.? My 1917 Lot 6 also has this drive but I have an early 1922 Lot 5 with the next version of the overhead drive that Dalton built.? PIcture included.? If you have run your lathe you will? note the noise?that comes from the silent chain drive.? I have always found the name?silent chain kind of funny as they are noise?as heck.? My Lot 6 is as close to brand new as one could possibly find and it's?still noisy.? Dennis
On Thu, Dec 14, 2023 at 8:25?AM Rick Clayton via <rjc112979= [email protected]> wrote: Picked this up in Massachusetts today.
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Picture was taken in the front entry of Turk Mfg. Hillsboro Oregon where it was displayed with many other machines that I have restored.
If you have looked at the photo of my later model Lot 5 you will note the clutch lever is now located differently.? This drive only has one clutch for on and off function.? The motor is operated by a large forward reverse?switch mounted on the back side of the drive vertical column?and is operated by moving the wood handle you see on the back side of the lathe.? It's a bit odd that not only did the drive have a clutch but the motor start stop and reverse function was controlled by a switch.? Answer,? The clutch freed?up the countershaft from the silent chain and motor making it easier to rotate the spindle by hand for setups. This lathe was found at the very tip of the ponisia that runs North from Green Bay up into lake Michigan.? Was owned by a retired teacher that had had it for over 50 years but had never set it up to run in all that time.? He said he did move it three times in the 50 years.? So for sure this lathe has not cut a chip in over 75 years.
On Thu, Dec 14, 2023 at 10:44?AM Dennis Turk via <dennisturk448= [email protected]> wrote: Hi Rick
Your Lot 5 is equipped with the first generation?overhead?drive.? I see you're missing the little disk that gave you access to adjusting the clutches.? My 1917 Lot 6 also has this drive but I have an early 1922 Lot 5 with the next version of the overhead drive that Dalton built.? PIcture included.? If you have run your lathe you will? note the noise?that comes from the silent chain drive.? I have always found the name?silent chain kind of funny as they are noise?as heck.? My Lot 6 is as close to brand new as one could possibly find and it's?still noisy.? Dennis
On Thu, Dec 14, 2023 at 8:25?AM Rick Clayton via <rjc112979= [email protected]> wrote: Picked this up in Massachusetts today.
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If you have looked at the photo of my later model Lot 5 you will note the clutch lever is now located differently.? This drive only has one clutch for on and off function.? The motor is operated by a large forward reverse?switch mounted on the back side of the drive vertical column?and is operated by moving the wood handle you see on the back side of the lathe.? It's a bit odd that not only did the drive have a clutch but the motor start stop and reverse function was controlled by a switch.? Answer,? The clutch freed?up the countershaft from the silent chain and motor making it easier to rotate the spindle by hand for setups. This lathe was found at the very tip of the ponisia that runs North from Green Bay up into lake Michigan.? Was owned by a retired teacher that had had it for over 50 years but had never set it up to run in all that time.? He said he did move it three times in the 50 years.? So for sure this lathe has not cut a chip in over 75 years.
On Thu, Dec 14, 2023 at 10:44?AM Dennis Turk via <dennisturk448= [email protected]> wrote: Hi Rick
Your Lot 5 is equipped with the first generation?overhead?drive.? I see you're missing the little disk that gave you access to adjusting the clutches.? My 1917 Lot 6 also has this drive but I have an early 1922 Lot 5 with the next version of the overhead drive that Dalton built.? PIcture included.? If you have run your lathe you will? note the noise?that comes from the silent chain drive.? I have always found the name?silent chain kind of funny as they are noise?as heck.? My Lot 6 is as close to brand new as one could possibly find and it's?still noisy.? Dennis
On Thu, Dec 14, 2023 at 8:25?AM Rick Clayton via <rjc112979= [email protected]> wrote: Picked this up in Massachusetts today.
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Hi Rick
Your Lot 5 is equipped with the first generation?overhead?drive.? I see you're missing the little disk that gave you access to adjusting the clutches.? My 1917 Lot 6 also has this drive but I have an early 1922 Lot 5 with the next version of the overhead drive that Dalton built.? PIcture included.? If you have run your lathe you will? note the noise?that comes from the silent chain drive.? I have always found the name?silent chain kind of funny as they are noise?as heck.? My Lot 6 is as close to brand new as one could possibly find and it's?still noisy.? Dennis
On Thu, Dec 14, 2023 at 8:25?AM Rick Clayton via <rjc112979= [email protected]> wrote: Picked this up in Massachusetts today.
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Picked this up in Massachusetts today. 
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I could go for a chip tray for a nine. Let me know and I can do
paypal or check.
Joe
On 12/9/23 14:05, Dennis Turk wrote:
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Speaking of stands I have a chip tray for a 48 inch bed Dalton 9.
It’s been glass bead blasted and powder coated 60% gloss black.
?Anyone that needs it can have it for packaging and cost of
shipping.?
Dennis
?Hey Ralph. ?Thank you for the great pictures!
?That milling attachment looks just like the one I have.
?Mine is probably from the 7” lathe.
I have found a stand for mine, if I can get the guy to part
with it. ?Fingers crossed!!
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Trey a guy in Ct gave me these legs and a decrepit lot 6 lathe. My friend Dave Kirk of Western NY met him half way to get the items. I was not interested in the beat up lathe or was Dave but he found a guy that needed parts from it so the lathe parts got another old girl up and ?running. Dave shipped me the legs but at the time I did not know they were for ?a TL. After t got them I was puzzled but finally found a catalog image of a TL on legs with a chip tray. ?I originally planned on using the legs under my black TL but got put off the project because I did not have a chip tray. ?This all happened about the time I was selling my company and my wife was well on her way of dementia and needed my full time taking care of her. So all restoration work stopped. I did do two other lathes after I sold the company in 2019. One and 1845 Ames and the other a 1934 built SB prototype of the new 1935 9 inch 415 model. ?Have not done any work in my shop since. The legs are quite rusty so will need to be glass bead or sand blasted. ?I will email you Tuesday after I get back home. I’m at my Oregon coast property right now and my router died so don’t have internet right now. ?
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On Dec 10, 2023, at 8:57?AM, Trey Tull <trey.tull@...> wrote:
?Hey Dennis, I would love them! I am not going to use this lathe for much of anything. ?Mainly doing it as a project and to restore a piece of history. ?I have a big lathe and mill that I use if I actually need to do something. ?Please shoot me an email at trey.tull at gmail when you have time and we will get the details worked out.
Thank you!!
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Hey Dennis, I would love them! I am not going to use this lathe for much of anything. ?Mainly doing it as a project and to restore a piece of history. ?I have a big lathe and mill that I use if I actually need to do something. ?Please shoot me an email at trey.tull at gmail when you have time and we will get the details worked out.
Thank you!!
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well Trey how would you like a pair of actual TL cast iron legs. I have the only known set. I got them some years ago but will never use them. ?Do to age and health problems I am no longer doing any restoration work. ?You really need a chip tray to use with the legs. I will be back home next week and can post a catalog image of a TL with chip tray and legs. I will tell you the legs are quite light wait and if you really plan on using your TL a sturdy built bench would be a better option.?
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On Dec 9, 2023, at 3:05?PM, Trey Tull <trey.tull@...> wrote:
? <58EBF1FA-F535-4A79-9DC5-518E3F1D1AAD.jpeg> <C526A4B4-C181-4A0D-AC88-09B8F720DA3E.jpeg> <E2B7A699-E961-485D-889B-F23DA51BEC34.jpeg> The guy that had the lathe/stand went dark on me. ?Oh well, I’ll keep looking. I almost have everything stripped and then I’ll start the filler process to smooth everything out. ?I think I have decided to go with paint and not powder coat.
I find it odd on the items that are stamped Dalton and ones that aren’t. ?Seems like it would be all or nothing. ?
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   The guy that had the lathe/stand went dark on me. ?Oh well, I’ll keep looking.
I almost have everything stripped and then I’ll start the filler process to smooth everything out. ?I think I have decided to go with paint and not powder coat.
I find it odd on the items that are stamped Dalton and ones that aren’t. ?Seems like it would be all or nothing. ?
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Dennis for a chip tray I bought a industrial baking tray ay a restaurant supply place. ?Works great
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Speaking of stands I have a chip tray for a 48 inch bed Dalton 9. It’s been glass bead blasted and powder coated 60% gloss black. ?Anyone that needs it can have it for packaging and cost of shipping.? Dennis ?Hey Ralph. ?Thank you for the great pictures! ?That milling attachment looks just like the one I have. ?Mine is probably from the 7” lathe.
I have found a stand for mine, if I can get the guy to part with it. ?Fingers crossed!!
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Speaking of stands I have a chip tray for a 48 inch bed Dalton 9. It’s been glass bead blasted and powder coated 60% gloss black. ?Anyone that needs it can have it for packaging and cost of shipping.?
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On Dec 5, 2023, at 6:58?PM, Trey Tull <trey.tull@...> wrote:
?Hey Ralph. ?Thank you for the great pictures! ?That milling attachment looks just like the one I have. ?Mine is probably from the 7” lathe.
I have found a stand for mine, if I can get the guy to part with it. ?Fingers crossed!!
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I think the Unimat use a threading system similar to the fox system,
These links might be showing versions of the Fox system.
Ralph
Dennis Turk wrote:
Hi Ralph good to hear from you. ? No I don’t recall you saying
anything about a fox threading set up. Then you may have and at
the time I may not have known what it was. Somewhere in all my
catalogs I have info and images of the fox threading set up on a
Dalton. When I get back home I need to see if I can find it and
post it. It’s a most fascinating piece of history and for me
explained how they made threaded items so fast.?
Dennis
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Dennis,
I hope you 're doing well. It's good to see you posting. I
may have told you this, but when I bought the Dalton with
the accessories, the seller mentioned the Fox setup and was
going to dig it up for me. I had no idea what it was and it
sounded hokey to me, with no experience or knowledge about
lathes. I never followed up with him. He's? must be long
dead by now and I would have no idea how to reach him. I
must have bought the lathe 40 years ago...
Cheers, Ralph
Dennis Turk wrote:
There is one Dalton accessory?that has
never been seen.? This being the Fox quick threading
setup.? It was gear driven from the end gears but
mounted on the back side of the lathe bed.? It
allowed?for rapid threading and the standard threading
lead screw was not used.? Rather the Fox setup had a
master thread drum that a half nut would engage.? There
were several thread drums available and by using?change
gears on the end gear train you could cut many different
threads.? It was fast and very efficient.? I don't?have
any photos or catalog images of the setup but over the
years parts to a Fox setup have been found on two
different Daltons though none complete. The Fox quick
threading setup was used on a number of different lathe
brands.
Dennis
Not sure who posted the accessories
pictures but all these parts belong to Ralph Ferone
of the Chicago area.? ?The lever collet closer?you
see is the only 7 1/4 inch lathe model we have?ever
seen.? In 2016 I participated in the NAMEs model
engineering show in Wyandotte?Michigan and Ralph
sent me the collet closer setup that I did some
clean? up work on and it was displayed on my Lot 5
we hauled to the show. All Ralphs accessories?are
all new items none look like they have never been
used.? I was also at the NAMEs show in 2015 and
Ralph came and had all these parts in his car so I
was able to see all his treasures.? ?I know Ralph
has one if? not two like new Dalton lathes that are
packed away I understand.? The pictures I found you
can see one of two I think that exist that being the
lever operated tailstock.? Also pictures of Ralphs
lever collet closer and for the erra the pivoting
guard that covers the closer when in use.? To be
able to mount the lever operated collet closer your
lathe had to come from the factory lever closer
ready.? The collet closer pivot arm is attached to a
very special extension?from the end door hinge.? My
Lot 5 is the only small Dalton I have with this
special attachment.? I do have a Dalton 9? that has
the lever collet closer and it's the only one known
that fits the Lot 6 and Dalton 9. When I get back
home my computer there has additional pictures and
if I find better ones showing some accessories I
will post them.
Dennis
Hey Ralph.?
Thank you for the great pictures!? That milling
attachment looks just like the one I have.? Mine
is probably from the 7” lathe.
I have found a stand for mine, if I can get the
guy to part with it.? Fingers crossed!!
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