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Awhile back, I mentioned that I'd begun using "SOS Online Backup", an
off-site backup application that charges $20 annually for 2 GB of offline
storage and $30 annualy for 5 GB of offline storage. I set this up to
perform daily backups on my DXLab Development, Digital Photography, and XYL
PCs. While all of these systems are backed up nightly to a server, my data
was still vulnerable to a single catastrophe.

Unfortunately, "SOS Online Backup" has problems. The "client" application
that runs on each PC has resource leaks, takes forever to start up (around 2
minutes on my DXLab PC), and doesn't accurately report the amount of storage
in use. When I reported these problems to the company, they eventually sent
me a new version of the client that while improved in some dimensions is far
less reliable; it's great if you're a collector of stack traces.

I have begun evaluating Mozy (www.mozy.com) and find it to be both reliable
and useable. Initially, I was put off by the fact that files within

c:\program files

could not be selected for backup, but there's a configuration option that
overrides this. The free version of Mozy gives you 2 GB -- likely more than
enough for your email, personal documents (not images), and log files. In

<>

and look for the "MozyHome Free" box along the left margin.

For those needing more than 2 GB, unlimited storage will cost you $5/month
for one PC.

I have no affiliation with Mozy beyond being a satisfied (so far) user.

73,

Dave, AA6YQ



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An on-site external hard drive does not provide protection against
catastrophic damage from fire, wind, flood, earthquake or volcano; your PC
and the external hard drive could both be rendered useless. Burning your
data onto DVDs and placing them in your bank's safety deposit box would
provide more protection, but doing this frequently and religiously demands
discipline.
Yes, there is a privacy consideration with respect to online backup
services. One should only engage with a reputable company, and only after
reviewing their security policies. Both SOS Online Backup and Mozy encrypt
the data as part of the upload process. For me, that's good enough for log
data, photographs, and the DXLab source code. For financial and other
private documents, I have long used PGP to encrypt them for storage on my
laptop; only these encrypted versions are backed up online.

-----Original Message-----
From: dxlab@... [mailto:dxlab@...] On Behalf Of
Alan NV8A
Sent: Saturday, September 12, 2009 6:46 AM
To: dxlab@...
Subject: Re: [dxlab] free off-site backup

And an external hard drive is easily trashed if it is bumped while in
use. Don't ask me how I know.

Recordable DVDs take too much user intervention unless the amount of
stuff to be backed up is trivial.

I use a Dell (relabeled Sony) 8-tape DDS4 autoloader, bought on eBay
for
a song. A full backup of every machine on the LAN runs in the early
hours of each Sunday morning (typically takes 4 or 5 tapes) and a
differential backup of every machine during the early hours of Monday
through Saturday (one tape each day). Each tape holds 20GB without data
compression; the last lot cost me $3.50 each; I can drop them with
reasonable impunity, mail them across country, and store a duplicate
set
in the safe deposit box at the bank every now and again.

73

Alan NV8A


Dave AA6YQ wrote:

An on-site external hard drive does not provide protection against
catastrophic damage from fire, wind, flood, earthquake or volcano;

your PC

and the external hard drive could both be rendered useless. Burning

your

data onto DVDs and placing them in your bank's safety deposit box

would

provide more protection, but doing this frequently and religiously

demands

discipline.

Yes, there is a privacy consideration with respect to online backup
services. One should only engage with a reputable company, and only

after

reviewing their security policies. Both SOS Online Backup and Mozy

encrypt

the data as part of the upload process. For me, that's good enough

for log

data, photographs, and the DXLab source code. For financial and other
private documents, I have long used PGP to encrypt them for storage

on my

laptop; only these encrypted versions are backed up online.

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-----Original Message-----
From: dxlab@... <mailto:dxlab%40yahoogroups.com>

Alan NV8A
Sent: Saturday, September 12, 2009 6:46 AM
To: dxlab@... <mailto:dxlab%40yahoogroups.com>
Subject: Re: [dxlab] free off-site backup

And an external hard drive is easily trashed if it is bumped while in
use. Don't ask me how I know.

Recordable DVDs take too much user intervention unless the amount of
stuff to be backed up is trivial.

I use a Dell (relabeled Sony) 8-tape DDS4 autoloader, bought on eBay
for
a song. A full backup of every machine on the LAN runs in the early
hours of each Sunday morning (typically takes 4 or 5 tapes) and a
differential backup of every machine during the early hours of Monday
through Saturday (one tape each day). Each tape holds 20GB without data
compression; the last lot cost me $3.50 each; I can drop them with
reasonable impunity, mail them across country, and store a duplicate
set
in the safe deposit box at the bank every now and again.

73

Alan NV8A


Dave AA6YQ wrote:

An on-site external hard drive does not provide protection against
catastrophic damage from fire, wind, flood, earthquake or volcano;

your PC

and the external hard drive could both be rendered useless. Burning

your

data onto DVDs and placing them in your bank's safety deposit box

would

provide more protection, but doing this frequently and religiously

demands

discipline.

Yes, there is a privacy consideration with respect to online backup
services. One should only engage with a reputable company, and only

after

reviewing their security policies. Both SOS Online Backup and Mozy

encrypt

the data as part of the upload process. For me, that's good enough

for log

data, photographs, and the DXLab source code. For financial and other
private documents, I have long used PGP to encrypt them for storage

on my

laptop; only these encrypted versions are backed up online.

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-----Original Message-----
From: dxlab@... [mailto:dxlab@...] On Behalf Of
DANNY DOUGLAS
Sent: Saturday, September 12, 2009 9:01 AM
To: dxlab@...
Subject: Re: [dxlab] free off-site backup

I havent used Norton Ghost in several years, but the last time I did,
it required my second hard drive be exactly the same size/type as the
primary. Is that no longer the case? I would be nice to get a larger
drive to replace the one I have now, ghost it, and then actually use
the new one in the computer, putting the present one in the bank vault.
Danny Douglas
N7DC
ex WN5QMX ET2US WA5UKR ET3USA
SV0WPP VS6DD N7DC/YV5 G5CTB

All 2 years or more (except Novice)
Pls QSL direct, buro, or LOTW preferred,
I Do not use, but as a courtesy do upload to eQSL for
those who do.

Moderator
DXandTALK

DXandTALK@...

Moderator
Digital_modes


----- Original Message -----
From: rojomn
To: dxlab@...
Sent: Saturday, September 12, 2009 9:33 AM
Subject: RE: [dxlab] free off-site backup


But can you do a full restore of your system in a disaster
situation? I mean
you do it and you are back where you were with no program
reinstalling? If
not I think it is a bad deal for those with a lot of applications
such as
myself. The way is to use an image program like Norton Ghost or
Acronis
Drive Image. These make a FULL backup that can restore to a formatted
drive
and when done you are back to where you were. The backup runs while
you
continue to use your system. It is quite fast, dong over 90 gigs in
two
hours or less. USB drives are so cheap that you have more than one to
have
multiple copies and you keep one at an offsite location or at least
away
from the computer an d not connected. They can fail but not very
often and
that is the reason for more than one.

I have had nothing but trouble with tape and a fast tape is VERY
expensive
unless you got a deal like yours.

If you have a VERY fast VERY large tape then you may have the best
idea
providing it can do a complete system recovery.

Gil, W0MN
N 44.082147 W 92.513085 1050' EN34rb
Hierro Candente, Batir de repente
> -----Original Message-----
> From: dxlab@... [mailto:dxlab@...] On
Behalf Of
> Alan NV8A
> Sent: Saturday, September 12, 2009 6:46 AM
> To: dxlab@...
> Subject: Re: [dxlab] free off-site backup
>
> And an external hard drive is easily trashed if it is bumped while
in
> use. Don't ask me how I know.
>
> Recordable DVDs take too much user intervention unless the amount
of
> stuff to be backed up is trivial.
>
> I use a Dell (relabeled Sony) 8-tape DDS4 autoloader, bought on
eBay
> for
> a song. A full backup of every machine on the LAN runs in the early
> hours of each Sunday morning (typically takes 4 or 5 tapes) and a
> differential backup of every machine during the early hours of
Monday
> through Saturday (one tape each day). Each tape holds 20GB without
data
> compression; the last lot cost me $3.50 each; I can drop them with
> reasonable impunity, mail them across country, and store a
duplicate
> set
> in the safe deposit box at the bank every now and again.
>
> 73
>
> Alan NV8A
>
>
> Dave AA6YQ wrote:
>
> > An on-site external hard drive does not provide protection
against
> > catastrophic damage from fire, wind, flood, earthquake or
volcano;
> your PC
> > and the external hard drive could both be rendered useless.
Burning
> your
> > data onto DVDs and placing them in your bank's safety deposit box
> would
> > provide more protection, but doing this frequently and
religiously
> demands
> > discipline.
> >
> > Yes, there is a privacy consideration with respect to online
backup
> > services. One should only engage with a reputable company, and
only
> after
> > reviewing their security policies. Both SOS Online Backup and
Mozy
> encrypt
> > the data as part of the upload process. For me, that's good
enough
> for log
> > data, photographs, and the DXLab source code. For financial and
other
> > private documents, I have long used PGP to encrypt them for
storage
> on my
> > laptop; only these encrypted versions are backed up online.
>
>
>
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>
>
>








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I havent used Norton Ghost in several years, but the last time I did, it required my second hard drive be exactly the same size/type as the primary. Is that no longer the case? I would be nice to get a larger drive to replace the one I have now, ghost it, and then actually use the new one in the computer, putting the present one in the bank vault.
Danny Douglas
N7DC
ex WN5QMX ET2US WA5UKR ET3USA
SV0WPP VS6DD N7DC/YV5 G5CTB

No requirement that they be the same size and type, only that they be large
enough. Do not buy it yet if you are going to W& since that is not yet
supported Acronis is coming out with 2010 Home which does support it and has
a continuous (every 5 minute ) backup and also encrypted offsite if you want
it. I think it will be the best although lacks a few high tech features of
Ghost. I think it will be my choice. I guarantee it is easier to use. I have
been a Beta tester.