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DOK references
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Dave,
Thanks for the guidance on SQL expressions. I had overlooked the need to use the "ADIF field name" option rather than just "DOK". I can now see how to better construct such queries in the future. Koen, There are many different awards that involved the working of various DOKs & not just DARC ones. One I looked at earlier is the Baden Diploma where there is a requirement to work multiple "A" DOKs hence the query. Dave, The drop down list in DXKeeper includes some "special event" DOKs as well as standard ones. I find that I have worked DOK IBO 83 which does not feature in your list. However includes what I believe is a definitive list of all special DOKs some of which are temporary. IBO 83 is temporary but there are other IBO DOKs which are also temporary which do in fact feature in the dropdown. I assume that some awards may involve working such temporary DOKs but within certain time constraints. However there must be several hundred of these so I guess including them all is not feasible. 73s Steve GW4BKG |
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The list of DOKs that DXKeeper presents is loaded on startup from the file
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Award230.txt in DXKeeper's Databases folder. You can carefully add or remove entries from this list. Koen ON7RK has been posting updated versions of this file in this Group's Files area, and I've been including them in DXKeeper updates. However, if ops are going to start maintaining custom versions of Award230.txt, then I will stop including them in DXKeeper updates so that these updates will not overwrite the customizations. That means that when Koen announces the availability of a new version, it will up to each interested user to download it into his or her Databases folder and either use it "as is" or use it to update their customized version of the file. 73, Dave, AA6YQ -----Original Message-----
From: dxlab@... [mailto:dxlab@...]On Behalf Of Steve GW4BKG Sent: Thursday, September 03, 2009 10:08 AM To: dxlab@... Subject: [dxlab] DOK references Dave, Thanks for the guidance on SQL expressions. I had overlooked the need to use the "ADIF field name" option rather than just "DOK". I can now see how to better construct such queries in the future. Koen, There are many different awards that involved the working of various DOKs & not just DARC ones. One I looked at earlier is the Baden Diploma where there is a requirement to work multiple "A" DOKs hence the query. Dave, The drop down list in DXKeeper includes some "special event" DOKs as well as standard ones. I find that I have worked DOK IBO 83 which does not feature in your list. However includes what I believe is a definitive list of all special DOKs some of which are temporary. IBO 83 is temporary but there are other IBO DOKs which are also temporary which do in fact feature in the dropdown. I assume that some awards may involve working such temporary DOKs but within certain time constraints. However there must be several hundred of these so I guess including them all is not feasible. 73s Steve GW4BKG ------------------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Links No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.339 / Virus Database: 270.13.74/2339 - Release Date: 09/03/09 05:50:00 |
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jvoelkelt
--- In dxlab@..., "Steve GW4BKG" <gw4bkg@...> wrote:
thanks for the info on the dok's do you or is there anyone else that can help me/maybe others in getting similar info for other lists such as wab, italian districts/counties, french dept etc. i already have all the info i need for the various jcc awards and most of the info for russian oblasts. i am going through some 14k qsl cards at the present time to get this kind of info entered so i can start chasing paper for some of the awards out there. thanks. great reflector and great group we have and many thanks to dave aa6yq for his help and work. joe kl7lf |
-----Original Message-----AA6YQ comments below From: dxlab@... [mailto:dxlab@...]On Behalf Of jvoelkelt Sent: Thursday, September 03, 2009 12:08 PM To: dxlab@... Subject: [dxlab] Re: DOK references --- In dxlab@..., "Steve GW4BKG" <gw4bkg@...> wrote: just "DOK". I can now see how to better construct such queries in the future.& not just DARC ones. One I looked at earlier is the Baden Diploma where there is a requirementto work multiple "A" DOKs hence the query. Dave,as standard ones. I find that I have worked DOK IBO 83 which does not feature in your list.what I believe is a definitive list of all special DOKs some of which are temporary. IBO 83 is temporary but there are other IBO DOKs which are also temporarywhich do in fact feature in the dropdown. I assume that some awards may involve working such temporary DOKs butwithin certain time constraints. However there must be several hundred of these so I guess including themall is not feasible. 73sthanks for the info on the dok's do you or is there anyone else that can help me/maybe others in getting similar info for other lists such as wab, italian districts/counties, french dept etc. WAB, WAIP, and DDFM lists rarely change, and are already provided byWhat sort of information are you seeking, Joe? Unlike the DOK list, the DXKeeper. To get more information about the awards supported by DXKeeper, click on the hyperlinks in the Award column of <> i already have all the info i need for the various jcc awards and most of the info for russian oblasts. i am going through some 14k qsl cards at the present time to get this kind of info entered so i can start chasing paper for some of the awards out there. and Sardinian QSLs; I estimate that 80% of these cards specified a provinceTo test the new WAIP support, I just did this with my stack of Italian name or code. 73, Dave, AA6YQ |
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jvoelkelt
--- In dxlab@..., "Dave AA6YQ" <aa6yq@...> wrote:
the info needed is to give me the ability to reconcile all my qsl cards so that the proper info is entered in the award field for region/county etc. lots of times i have no way of know what region/county/district etc i have worked and have no way at present to reconcile my qsl card info against what dxkeeper expects to be put in that field. thanks joe kl7lf-----Original Message-----AA6YQ comments below |
-----Original Message-----AA6YQ comments below From: dxlab@... [mailto:dxlab@...]On Behalf Of jvoelkelt Sent: Thursday, September 03, 2009 12:42 PM To: dxlab@... Subject: [dxlab] Re: DOK references the info needed is to give me the ability to reconcile all my qsl cards so that the proper info is entered in the award field for region/county etc. lots of times i have no way of know what region/county/district etc i have worked and have no way at present to reconcile my qsl card info against what dxkeeper expects to be put in that field. thanks joe kl7lf (meaning that you didn't log the information at the time of the QSO and theIf you don't know what region/county/district is associate with a QSO its not specified on the QSL card), then your only options are a callbook lookup (but not all callbooks supply this information, and the user may have moved after the QSO was made) or contact with your QSO partner (e.g. via email). Some awards require you to submit QSL cards; cards that don't substantiate the region/county/district will likely not be accepted. provinces, departments, oblasts, cities, guns, prefectures), DXKeeperFor Primary and Secondary Administrative Subdivision items (e.g. states, presents you with a list of valid choices. As most of these subdivisions are specified by a code that you may not recognize, you can click the item's ? button; DXKeeper will then display a window that lets you select the appropriate code by the subdivision's full name. For example, you can click on "Bouches-du-Rhone", and DXKeeper will set the Primary Administrative Subdivision item (labeled "Department" in a French QSO) to 13. the notes following this table describe exactly what DXKeeper expects you toThe table in <> and record for each supported award. It also provides hyperlinks so that you can see exactly how a WAB square or IARC Area is determined. 73, Dave, AA6YQ |
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jvoelkelt
--- In dxlab@..., "Dave AA6YQ" <aa6yq@...> wrote:
thanks for the info dave, this will give me a starting point to bring my log completely up to date and get the info properly entered. did a real quick check with some of the french dept and find that some of the cities are not on dxkeeper list, anyway will play around with in some more and see what i can do. thanks dave. joe kl7lf-----Original Message-----AA6YQ comments below |
-----Original Message-----AA6YQ comments below From: dxlab@... [mailto:dxlab@...]On Behalf Of jvoelkelt Sent: Thursday, September 03, 2009 1:23 PM To: dxlab@... Subject: [dxlab] Re: DOK references thanks for the info dave, this will give me a starting point to bring my log completely up to date and get the info properly entered. did a real quick check with some of the french dept and find that some of the cities are not on dxkeeper list, anyway will play around with in some more and see what i can do. Corsican Departements, not French cities. For the DDFM rules, seeDXKeeper's "list" -- and the subject of the DDFM award -- are French and <> and for a list of the 95 "D???partements fran???ais de la m???tropole" and their codes, see <> Subdivisions for France and Corsica.These 95 departments are specified by ADIF as Primary Administrative 73, Dave, AA6YQ |
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The list i follow is the list from DARC. IBO is the special DOK for Friedrichshaven. And IBO83 is not in that list nor in the CSV file wich i use to make Award230.txt I discovered some more faults in that list... but i thrust DARC... If i'm right you can enter your Own value in the DOK field as well. Koen ON7RK --- In dxlab@..., "Steve GW4BKG" <gw4bkg@...> wrote:
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Hi Koen,
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Thanks for the information & URLs. I think Dave's idea to leave users to enter their own additional DOKs as they need them is the best idea. There is no point in having a very large list which includes temporary DOKs which are more than 25 years old which will never be activated again. I have already added IBO83 to my Award230.txt file so must remember that when you produce your next file. 73s Steve GW4BKG ----- Original Message -----
From: koro19672002 To: dxlab@... Sent: Friday, September 04, 2009 7:40 AM Subject: [dxlab] Re: DOK references Hi Steve, The list i follow is the list from DARC. IBO is the special DOK for Friedrichshaven. And IBO83 is not in that list nor in the CSV file wich i use to make Award230.txt I discovered some more faults in that list... but i thrust DARC... If i'm right you can enter your Own value in the DOK field as well. Koen ON7RK --- In dxlab@..., "Steve GW4BKG" <gw4bkg@...> wrote: > > Dave, > Thanks for the guidance on SQL expressions. > I had overlooked the need to use the "ADIF field name" option rather than just "DOK". > I can now see how to better construct such queries in the future. > Koen, > There are many different awards that involved the working of various DOKs & not just DARC ones. > One I looked at earlier is the Baden Diploma where there is a requirement to work multiple "A" DOKs hence the query. > Dave, > The drop down list in DXKeeper includes some "special event" DOKs as well as standard ones. > I find that I have worked DOK IBO 83 which does not feature in your list. > However includes what I believe is a definitive list of all special DOKs some of which are temporary. > IBO 83 is temporary but there are other IBO DOKs which are also temporary which do in fact feature in the dropdown. > I assume that some awards may involve working such temporary DOKs but within certain time constraints. > However there must be several hundred of these so I guess including them all is not feasible. > 73s > Steve > GW4BKG > > > > |
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Hi Steve,
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For me it's OK also... But what if someone , like you did, update his logbook with old qsl cards. So then it's possible that he had a qsl card from 20 years old with that SDOK. Koen --- In dxlab@..., "Steve GW4BKG" <gw4bkg@...> wrote:
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Hi Koen,
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The only answer then is to include all the "Sonder" DOKs both permanent & temporary in the file. I counted over 200 but looking at the DARC file there must be a lot more. Being a text file I guess it would not be too big. Can these old DOKs still be used for awards ? 73s Steve GW4BKG ----- Original Message -----
From: koro19672002 To: dxlab@... Sent: Friday, September 04, 2009 10:20 AM Subject: [dxlab] Re: DOK references Hi Steve, For me it's OK also... But what if someone , like you did, update his logbook with old qsl cards. So then it's possible that he had a qsl card from 20 years old with that SDOK. Koen --- In dxlab@..., "Steve GW4BKG" <gw4bkg@...> wrote: > > Hi Koen, > Thanks for the information & URLs. > I think Dave's idea to leave users to enter their own additional DOKs as they need them is the best idea. > There is no point in having a very large list which includes temporary DOKs which are more than 25 years old > which will never be activated again. > I have already added IBO83 to my Award230.txt file so must remember that when you produce your next file. > 73s > Steve > GW4BKG > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: koro19672002 > To: dxlab@... > Sent: Friday, September 04, 2009 7:40 AM > Subject: [dxlab] Re: DOK references > > > Hi Steve, > > The list i follow is the list from DARC. > > > IBO is the special DOK for Friedrichshaven. > And IBO83 is not in that list nor in the CSV file wich i use to make Award230.txt > > > I discovered some more faults in that list... but i thrust DARC... > If i'm right you can enter your Own value in the DOK field as well. > > Koen > ON7RK > > --- In dxlab@..., "Steve GW4BKG" <gw4bkg@> wrote: > > > > Dave, > > Thanks for the guidance on SQL expressions. > > I had overlooked the need to use the "ADIF field name" option rather than just "DOK". > > I can now see how to better construct such queries in the future. > > Koen, > > There are many different awards that involved the working of various DOKs & not just DARC ones. > > One I looked at earlier is the Baden Diploma where there is a requirement to work multiple "A" DOKs hence the query. > > Dave, > > The drop down list in DXKeeper includes some "special event" DOKs as well as standard ones. > > I find that I have worked DOK IBO 83 which does not feature in your list. > > However includes what I believe is a definitive list of all special DOKs some of which are temporary. > > IBO 83 is temporary but there are other IBO DOKs which are also temporary which do in fact feature in the dropdown. > > I assume that some awards may involve working such temporary DOKs but within certain time constraints. > > However there must be several hundred of these so I guess including them all is not feasible. > > 73s > > Steve > > GW4BKG > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > |
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Hi Steve,
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The original list i use counts 3359 SDOK's. But there are many dupes in it, sam SDOK but with different callsign. After filtering this list i still get 1935 SDOK's. example: 01ILLW Int. Lighthouse Weekend DA0LGT 16/08/2001 20/08/2001 I04 01ILLW Int. Lighthouse Weekend DA0BHV 17/08/2000 19/08/2001 R13 That's 2 times 01ILLW, so you only have to use 1 of them. The option to select the SDOK from call and date was not worth the effort from Dave. I think he's doing a great job already... I have the feeling that DARC don't update there list 100%. I mailed also a few times to add a SDOK. Koen ON7RK --- In dxlab@..., "Steve GW4BKG" <gw4bkg@...> wrote:
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I have here a printed DOK list from DARC Verlag dated 22.7.1991
It shows IBO78 till IBO99 same for IR83 till IR99 UKW88 till UKW99 VHV86 till VHV99 CM80 till CM99 (and I know there are more after this one) now many with start 25, 40 or 50 and the original DOK behind that number. But I suggest if you work one of these (now CM2008 or IFA09, currently active) just add them, they are shorttime and will not be reactivated after the year is over or the activity period is past. This counts every year anew, and that's why the SonderDOK count now is higher than the original DOK count 73 Nico, pa0mir |
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