Re: Acclimated too much to the cold?
I actually observed when I got home. I rolled the 25" out of the trailer. I
never once looked at the moon or planets but did observe a few planetaries
and double stars. The seeing had improved since earlier that evening. Don't
let the moon discourage you; there are still some good objects to view.
Kent
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----- Original Message ----- From: <twforte@...> To: <backbayastro@...> Sent: Friday, February 14, 2003 1:19 PM Subject: Re: [backbayastro] Acclimated too much to the cold? It was a beautiful night last night wasn't it? I'm afraid my observing was limited to the hour or so after the show at the Chesapeake Planetarium.
As most of you know, Kent Blackwell sets up the planetarium's 14-Inch
Celestron telescope after the public shows every clear Thursday. I joined him, and the crowd, for views of Saturn, Jupiter, M42 and the Moon last night. Seeing was pretty poor but it was a marvelous evening for stargazing all the same!
Ted
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"astrowoody2002 <denice.k.woody@...>" <denice.k.woody@...> writes:
Interesting experience a little while ago which tells me it's been
too cold for too long!
Stepped outside to run an errand and the temperature felt very
pleasant and conducive to working in the yard -- but when I checked
Accuweather the temperature given was 46 degrees.
Hope someone had a chance to enjoy the view last night. As for
myself, once I finished working at 5 AM, it was a little too late for
me.
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Please put me on the list...I've already asked for the afternoon off that
Friday.....
Denice
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-----Original Message----- From: S. Kent Blackwell [mailto:kent@...] Sent: Friday, February 14, 2003 2:29 PM To: backbayastro@... Subject: Re: [backbayastro] Re: New / Used Scopes Although the horizon is limited at Coinjock, NC I hope all can attend this year's East Coast Star Party which I shall be hosting March 28 & 29. You can use the time observing as many Messier objects as possible or just simply enjoy observing. This is the 13th or 14th year I've hosted the party. The skies in Coinjock aren't as dark as 14 years ago, but that seems to be the sad story worldwide. I'll send out the information about the star party in a few days. If you'd like to be on my email list please let me know. Kent Blackwell kent@... ----- Original Message ----- From: <dickson@...> To: <backbayastro@...> Sent: Friday, February 14, 2003 10:03 AM Subject: [backbayastro] Re: New / Used Scopes After years of not having the luxury of a computer, now I find
it hard to turn mine off I must admit. However, Messier
Marathon time is one occasion I make a big exception.
The sense of accomplishment from finding all those objects
(my personal record so far is 107) in one night is one
that doesn't wear off quickly. And it won't be long before
it's time to give it another shot! I guess the marathon is
something some love to do and others rebel at the idea. I
find it a great excuse to spend an exciting night out under
the stars.
Richard
--- In backbayastro@..., "S. Kent Blackwell" <kent@e...>
wrote:
I agree with Lelane about finding objects by starhopping. In all my years of stargazing my true love has been the "thrill" of finding
something on my own. It's a rewarding experience one cannot attain by
simply dialing it in on a computer. Now, I'll admit some people simply
don't have the time to devote to spending half the night looking for a
handful of objects but I do suggest every once in a while turning off
those computers and brushing up on starhopping. I did this a few
nights ago and will say I had more fun stargazing that evening than
I've had in a long time. So there!
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Although the horizon is limited at Coinjock, NC I hope all can attend this
year's East Coast Star Party which I shall be hosting March 28 & 29. You can
use the time observing as many Messier objects as possible or just simply
enjoy observing. This is the 13th or 14th year I've hosted the party. The
skies in Coinjock aren't as dark as 14 years ago, but that seems to be the
sad story worldwide. I'll send out the information about the star party in a
few days. If you'd like to be on my email list please let me know.
Kent Blackwell
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----- Original Message ----- From: <dickson@...> To: <backbayastro@...> Sent: Friday, February 14, 2003 10:03 AM Subject: [backbayastro] Re: New / Used Scopes After years of not having the luxury of a computer, now I find
it hard to turn mine off I must admit. However, Messier
Marathon time is one occasion I make a big exception.
The sense of accomplishment from finding all those objects
(my personal record so far is 107) in one night is one
that doesn't wear off quickly. And it won't be long before
it's time to give it another shot! I guess the marathon is
something some love to do and others rebel at the idea. I
find it a great excuse to spend an exciting night out under
the stars.
Richard
--- In backbayastro@..., "S. Kent Blackwell" <kent@e...>
wrote:
I agree with Lelane about finding objects by starhopping. In all my years of stargazing my true love has been the "thrill" of finding
something on my own. It's a rewarding experience one cannot attain by
simply dialing it in on a computer. Now, I'll admit some people simply
don't have the time to devote to spending half the night looking for a
handful of objects but I do suggest every once in a while turning off
those computers and brushing up on starhopping. I did this a few
nights ago and will say I had more fun stargazing that evening than
I've had in a long time. So there!
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I'll render an opinion too (I have plenty of them to spare....) Star hopping is a lot of fun, and a skill that everyone should develop. I've got a LX-90, but one of the first things I did was to start working on my Messier Certificate from the Astronomical League, which doesn't allow the use of goto's for that award. I really learned the sky and the art of observing by chasing faint fuzzies through the guide scope. I just received my copy of "Deep-Sky Companions: The Caldwell Objects" by Stephen O'Meara yesterday, so I'm about to jump into the Caldwell Award, which also prohibits goto's. All that being said, the goto scopes have several advantages. First, you'll see a lot more objects in a given amount of time. As my observing time is limited, this is a real advantage. You can always turn off the goto if you want to starhop. Second, starhopping is dificult under urban skies because of light pollution. You can always see your guide stars to align, and then use the computer to find faint objects that would be extremely difficult to starhop to because of the bright skies. Third, it is great for star parties, because you can zip back and forth between object quickly to show visitors a variety of objects without saying "Uh, I know it's around here somewhere...." As they say, "you pays your money and you makes your choice". If money is an issue, you'll get a lot more scope for the money with a dob. I guess a final reason is that I'm a self-admitted geek and I like playing with all the buttons, interfacing the scope with my computer, etc. I'm sure I'll get a big dob some day, but in a sense, I'm still doing my apprenticeship. If I got a big dob now, I'm sure I wouldn't appreciate it as much as I would if I spent a few more years with 8". Rob From: twforte@... Reply-To: backbayastro@... To: backbayastro@... Subject: Re: [backbayastro] New / Used Scopes Date: Fri, 14 Feb 2003 11:59:00 -0500 I agree too ... just to throw my two cents in. I get a great deal of satisfaction in starhopping. After all, I'm out there to enjoy learning the sky. But I have to say that computer aided observing has its place. For me that place is low in the sky where star hopping can be painful or in those Aquarius-like constellations that offer so few signpost stars that it just isn't any fun. Now as to the Messier marathon: "real" observers not only turn off their computers they leave their charts (and lists) at home too! How many can you get purely from memory? Hmmmm? Ted In a message dated 2/14/2003 9:32:56 AM Eastern Standard Time, "S. Kent Blackwell" <kent@...> writes: I agree with Lelane about finding objects by starhopping. In all my years of stargazing my true love has been the "thrill" of finding something on my own. It's a rewarding experience one cannot attain by simply dialing it in on a computer. Now, I'll admit some people simply don't have the time to devote to spending half the night looking for a handful of objects but I do suggest every once in a while turning off those computers and brushing up on starhopping. I did this a few nights ago and will say I had more fun stargazing that evening than I've had in a long time. So there! To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: backbayastro-unsubscribe@... Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to _________________________________________________________________ The new MSN 8: smart spam protection and 2 months FREE*
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Re: Acclimated too much to the cold?
It was a beautiful night last night wasn't it? I'm afraid my observing was limited to the hour or so after the show at the Chesapeake Planetarium.
As most of you know, Kent Blackwell sets up the planetarium's 14-Inch Celestron telescope after the public shows every clear Thursday. I joined him, and the crowd, for views of Saturn, Jupiter, M42 and the Moon last night. Seeing was pretty poor but it was a marvelous evening for stargazing all the same!
Ted
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In a message dated 2/14/2003 12:11:42 PM Eastern Standard Time, "astrowoody2002 <denice.k.woody@...>" <denice.k.woody@...> writes: Interesting experience a little while ago which tells me it's been
too cold for too long!
Stepped outside to run an errand and the temperature felt very
pleasant and conducive to working in the yard -- but when I checked
Accuweather the temperature given was 46 degrees.
Hope someone had a chance to enjoy the view last night. ???As for
myself, once I finished working at 5 AM, it was a little too late for
me.
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Congratulations George Reynolds!
Congratulations are in order for George Reynolds who has once again been selected as a NASA Solar System Ambassador. We have known for several weeks now that George was selected to continue in this role again this year, but now the press release on the SSA program is out. You can read about the NASA Solar System Ambassador program and today's news release at<A href="> JPL Nasa</A> And don't forget to visit George's website <A href=">George Reynolds SSA </A> Way to go George! BBAA is proud to have you!
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I don't see any problem with it. It's a public service for our members where we can offer equipment to others in the area. I wouldn't want to see dealers from California posting, though.... Rob From: twforte@... Reply-To: backbayastro@... To: backbayastro@... Subject: Re: [backbayastro] More stuff for sale. Date: Fri, 14 Feb 2003 12:07:08 -0500 In a message dated 2/14/2003 9:54:06 AM Eastern Standard Time, "rdickson23692 <dickson@...>" <dickson@...> writes: Sorry if posting stuff for sale is off topic, or maybe it's not, I'm
not sure. I'll defer to Rob if he has a different opinion but I think posting stuff for sale is "right on the nose" one of the valuable uses of this list. As long as it is astronomy related stuff, I don't see a problem with it! Ted Forte Your alternate moderator To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: backbayastro-unsubscribe@... Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to _________________________________________________________________ Help STOP SPAM with the new MSN 8 and get 2 months FREE*
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Acclimated too much to the cold?
Interesting experience a little while ago which tells me it's been
too cold for too long!
Stepped outside to run an errand and the temperature felt very
pleasant and conducive to working in the yard -- but when I checked
Accuweather the temperature given was 46 degrees.
Hope someone had a chance to enjoy the view last night. As for
myself, once I finished working at 5 AM, it was a little too late for
me.
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In a message dated 2/14/2003 9:54:06 AM Eastern Standard Time, "rdickson23692 <dickson@...>" <dickson@...> writes: Sorry if posting stuff for sale is off topic, or maybe it's not, I'm
not sure. I'll defer to Rob if he has a different opinion but I think posting stuff for sale is "right on the nose" one of the valuable uses of this list. As long as it is astronomy related stuff, I don't see a problem with it! Ted Forte Your alternate moderator
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I agree too ... just to throw my two cents in.
I get a great deal of satisfaction in starhopping. After all, I'm out there to enjoy learning the sky. But I have to say that computer aided observing has its place. For me that place is low in the sky where star hopping can be painful or in those Aquarius-like constellations that offer so few signpost stars that it just isn't any fun.
Now as to the Messier marathon: "real" observers not only turn off their computers they leave their charts (and lists) at home too! How many can you get purely from memory? Hmmmm?
Ted
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In a message dated 2/14/2003 9:32:56 AM Eastern Standard Time, "S. Kent Blackwell" <kent@...> writes: I agree with Lelane about finding objects by starhopping. In all my years of stargazing my true love has been the "thrill" of finding something on my own. It's a rewarding experience one cannot attain by simply dialing it in on a computer. Now, I'll admit some people simply don't have the time to devote to spending half the night looking for a handful of objects but I do suggest every once in a while turning off those computers and brushing up on starhopping. I did this a few nights ago and will say I had more fun stargazing that evening than I've had in a long time. So there!
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In a message dated 2/14/2003 9:06:41 AM Eastern Standard Time, "Lelane Arneson" <Larneson@...> writes: I would love to be a part of Fan Mountain. Just let me know what I need to do. That's the spirit! I hope that several members will want to get involved. First, interested parties can consider being a committee member ... Rob has asked me to chair a committee devoted to the NSU collaboration and specifically the remote robotic observatory (which will be separate from the public outreach projects, like the planet walk proposal we might pursue with Norfolk State). Next, try to come on the observing trip to Fan Mountain when we get it organized. I want to try and pick a weekend that won't conflict with the sprng and summer star parties but that still has enough moonless hours to make it worthwhile. And of course we will have to allow for the weather, so stay flexible. Perhaps you know a potential funding donor or a corporate entity that would offer some funding incentives (matching funds?) Finally, its not too early to begin thinking of observing projects that might be conducted with the scope. We will be expected to submit proposals and compete for telescope time amongst ourselves and NSU students. In the beginning, we should have little competition for telescope time since NSU isn't overflowing with astronomy interest, it is hopped that we will encourage more of that over time. The best proposals will incorporate students ... from NSU, ODU, TCC or even high school. But of course the more your proposal incorporates NSU students the more favorably it will be received. Ted
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As do I. See
you in March!
?
Lelane
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After years of not having the luxury of a
computer, now I find
it hard to turn mine off I must admit. However,
Messier
Marathon time is one occasion I make a big exception.
The sense
of accomplishment from finding all those objects
(my personal record so far
is 107) in one night is one
that doesn't wear off quickly. And it won't be
long before
it's time to give it another shot! I guess the marathon
is
something some love to do and others rebel at the idea. I
find it a
great excuse to spend an exciting night out under
the
stars.
Richard
--- In backbayastro@..., "S. Kent
Blackwell"
wrote:
> I agree with Lelane about
finding objects by starhopping. In all my
years of stargazing my true love
has been the "thrill" of finding
something on my own. It's a rewarding
experience one cannot attain by
simply dialing it in on a computer. Now,
I'll admit some people simply
don't have the time to devote to spending
half the night looking for a
handful of objects but I do suggest every once
in a while turning off
those computers and brushing up on starhopping. I
did this a few
nights ago and will say I had more fun stargazing that
evening than
I've had in a long time. So there!
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After years of not having the luxury of a computer, now I find it hard to turn mine off I must admit. However, Messier Marathon time is one occasion I make a big exception. The sense of accomplishment from finding all those objects (my personal record so far is 107) in one night is one that doesn't wear off quickly. And it won't be long before it's time to give it another shot! I guess the marathon is something some love to do and others rebel at the idea. I find it a great excuse to spend an exciting night out under the stars. Richard --- In backbayastro@..., "S. Kent Blackwell" <kent@e...> wrote: I agree with Lelane about finding objects by starhopping. In all my years of stargazing my true love has been the "thrill" of finding something on my own. It's a rewarding experience one cannot attain by simply dialing it in on a computer. Now, I'll admit some people simply don't have the time to devote to spending half the night looking for a handful of objects but I do suggest every once in a while turning off those computers and brushing up on starhopping. I did this a few nights ago and will say I had more fun stargazing that evening than I've had in a long time. So there!
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Sorry if posting stuff for sale is off topic, or maybe it's not, I'm
not sure. Anyway, I have a few more things I want to get rid of a
club member might be interested in. I have not posted these on
Astromart so maybe a club member will actually get a chance at
them.
1) Orion 50mm 2" Plossl. This is a very nice eyepiece for someone
who wants to get into the 2" world on the cheap. It was my
first 2" when I bought it a dozzen years ago. It is multi-
coated, however acid-dew has slightly etched the coatings
a slight amount. This is really unnoticable in use. There
are no scratches on the lenses and the eyepiece is otherwise
in great shape. $40.
2) Orion Tri-mag 3X barlow. Absolutely like new. New price is
$44.95 + S&H. I will sell for $20.
3) Piggyback camera addapter for Meade 10" SCT. Very good condition.
I no longer have a 10" Meade. $25
4) TeleVue 11mm Plossl purchaced new in November. Like new with
caps and box. New price $82 + S&H. I will sell for $65.
Please contact me offline at dickson@.... I can deliver any
of these at one of the upcomming viewing sessions.
Thanks,
Richard Dickson
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I agree with Lelane about finding objects by
starhopping. In all my years of stargazing my true love has been the "thrill" of
finding something on my own. It's a rewarding experience one cannot?attain
by simply dialing it in on a computer. Now, I'll admit some people simply don't
have the time to devote to spending half the night looking for a handful of
objects but I do suggest every once in a while turning off those computers and
brushing up on starhopping. I did this a few nights ago and will say I had more
fun stargazing that evening than I've had in a long time. So there!
?
Kent Blackwell
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HI Mat,
??? I have never purchased anything from Astromart. All my purchases
have been from Orion. Which I have never had a bad experience. I myself prefer
a dob. There is nothing like it. They are the least complicated and in my
opinion have the best view. I like the challenge of finding it myself instead
of the go to feature. Good luck on any choice you make.
?
Lelane
Arneson
I have never been
burned at Astromart, and think it's a valuable source for
an amateur.
However, you should be versed on what you're buying. Remember,
if you're
not completely satisfied there is no recourse when buying
something
used.
Along the lines of Meade telescopes I will say I cannot
remember seeing bad
optics from them. Quite the contrast, both they and
Celestron are making
better optics now than ever in their history. The
mechanics/electronics are,
however, varied. And forget those instruction
manuals! Still, it's amazing
they can sell complete telescopes for the
price they do.
Kent Blackwell
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6:05 PM
Subject: [backbayastro] New / Used Scopes
>
Hi? all
>
> As I am a new member to BBAA I was looking at
getting some advice
> from the membership. As it stands now I am
looking at ordering a new
> Meade LX90 next month (w/UHTC). This will
be my first scope. I have
> been looking at Astromart over the last
month and have seen some nice
> deals... At least what I think are
some nice deals. I was
> wondering if I could get some input from you
all on what you think of
> New / Used and any experiences good or bad
anyone has had dealing
> through Astromart. Any info that might help
so I can make a informed
> decision would be great.
>
>
Thanks much
>
> Mat
>
>
>
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You are the
MAN! I wish I was a dedicated to this as you are. I would love to be a part of
Fan Mountain. Just let me know what I need to do. Even if I am the coffee girl I
would be happy.
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Lelane
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I accompanied Dr
Salgado and Dr Miller from Norfolk State to the University
of Virginia
yesterday.? We spoke to several members of the astronomy
department
about a possible collaboration with them in building a remote
robotic
observatory on Fan Mountain.
We later toured the observatory and
discussed possible sites for the NSU
telescope.? Dr Salgado asked me
to attend because BBAA will be an important
partner in the observatory
project.?
You can read all about it in next month's newsletter or
you can go to the
files section of the backbayastro site and download (or
read) the full
report.? I've also uploaded some pictures from Fan
Mountain.? (Click on
photos and then open the Fan Mountain
album.)? I'll try to do a page soon on
our HR.Com website too.
The short version is that we got a very positive response from UVA and
the
project looks like it could go forward with a funding request in
January ...
then who knows.? I hope to arrange an observing session
at Fan Mountain
sometime this year, along with Dr Sagaldo and a few
interested BBAA members,
to help evaluate the site ...
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HI Mat,
??? I have never purchased anything from Astromart. All my purchases
have been from Orion. Which I have never had a bad experience. I myself prefer a
dob. There is nothing like it. They are the least complicated and in my opinion
have the best view. I like the challenge of finding it myself instead of the go
to feature. Good luck on any choice you make.
?
Lelane
Arneson
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I have never been
burned at Astromart, and think it's a valuable source for
an amateur.
However, you should be versed on what you're buying. Remember,
if you're
not completely satisfied there is no recourse when buying
something
used.
Along the lines of Meade telescopes I will say I cannot remember
seeing bad
optics from them. Quite the contrast, both they and Celestron
are making
better optics now than ever in their history. The
mechanics/electronics are,
however, varied. And forget those instruction
manuals! Still, it's amazing
they can sell complete telescopes for the
price they do.
Kent Blackwell
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From:
To:
Sent:
Thursday, February 13, 2003 6:05 PM
Subject: [backbayastro] New / Used
Scopes
> Hi? all
>
> As I am a new member to
BBAA I was looking at getting some advice
> from the membership. As it
stands now I am looking at ordering a new
> Meade LX90 next month
(w/UHTC). This will be my first scope. I have
> been looking at
Astromart over the last month and have seen some nice
> deals... At
least what I think are some nice deals. I was
> wondering if I could get
some input from you all on what you think of
> New / Used and any
experiences good or bad anyone has had dealing
> through Astromart. Any
info that might help so I can make a informed
> decision would be
great.
>
> Thanks much
>
>
Mat
>
>
>
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I have never been burned at Astromart, and think it's a valuable source for
an amateur. However, you should be versed on what you're buying. Remember,
if you're not completely satisfied there is no recourse when buying
something used.
Along the lines of Meade telescopes I will say I cannot remember seeing bad
optics from them. Quite the contrast, both they and Celestron are making
better optics now than ever in their history. The mechanics/electronics are,
however, varied. And forget those instruction manuals! Still, it's amazing
they can sell complete telescopes for the price they do.
Kent Blackwell
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As I am a new member to BBAA I was looking at getting some advice
from the membership. As it stands now I am looking at ordering a new
Meade LX90 next month (w/UHTC). This will be my first scope. I have
been looking at Astromart over the last month and have seen some nice
deals... At least what I think are some nice deals. I was
wondering if I could get some input from you all on what you think of
New / Used and any experiences good or bad anyone has had dealing
through Astromart. Any info that might help so I can make a informed
decision would be great.
Thanks much
Mat
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Mat
I've been dealing on astromart for 3 yrs. buying
and selling and have never been
ripped.? I notice allot of the LX200 8" for
sale. You can buy a new one for $1999 + ship
I've seen them for 1200 or less (always make a
counter offer) I have a LX, awesome machines.
Two of our members have Lx90's and are performing
just as well as the LX200's. The difference is
for long exposure photography and a few extra's.
The 90 is a great scope for the price.
Dale Carey.
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Hi? all
As I am a new member to BBAA I was
looking at getting some advice
from the membership. As it stands now I am
looking at ordering a new
Meade LX90 next month (w/UHTC). This will be my
first scope. I have
been looking at Astromart over the last month and have
seen some nice
deals….. At least what I think are some nice deals. I
was
wondering if I could get some input from you all on what you think of
New / Used and any experiences good or bad anyone has had dealing
through Astromart. Any info that might help so I can make a informed
decision would be great.
Thanks
much
Mat
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Hi all
As I am a new member to BBAA I was looking at getting some advice
from the membership. As it stands now I am looking at ordering a new
Meade LX90 next month (w/UHTC). This will be my first scope. I have
been looking at Astromart over the last month and have seen some nice
deals….. At least what I think are some nice deals. I was
wondering if I could get some input from you all on what you think of
New / Used and any experiences good or bad anyone has had dealing
through Astromart. Any info that might help so I can make a informed
decision would be great.
Thanks much
Mat
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Kent Blackwell