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Re: First light
richardcoop <[email protected]>
That moon crossing Jupiter about 10-11 last night was Io. Watched it
cross also. --- In backbayastro@..., Richard Dickson <dickson@j...> wrote: Joe,reasons, learnsize/weight and I'd rather not have goto.This way I'm forced to trackedthe night sky. 4like a dream.I had to leave to pick up my teenage daughter from a wasstars of the trapezium well. butseeing Cassini. View seemed to come and go.Pretty steady at 180X throughpretty shakey at 293X.I assume that's due to seeing conditions. made)the scope.(as usual I did too much at once) I think I did the lopsided.Needwas getting in the way and made the out of focus star to read up on it also.
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Re: First light
Joe,
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Congradulations on your new scope! I was observing Jupiter last night as well and can assure you the poor view at 293X was due to the seeing. It was poor 95% of the time. It was even worse just after sunset than when you were observing. If you were patient though, the few seconds here and there of OK seeing made up for it. Did you catch the red spot? It was rotating off just about as the moon's shadow entered. It seems redder this year than I ever remember, but it's still far from "red". Enjoy your scope. I've heard really great things about those C9.25 tubes. Richard "joseph_piotrowski " wrote:
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Re: First light
Congratulations on your new scope Joe. We can all relate to the excitement of a new scope and especially when it is a quantum leap over the previous one! Of course, if it rains for the next two weeks it will be your fault!
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Don't worry about a shakey image at 293x, that's a lot of magnification for a 9.25 inch scope. Takes pretty steady seeing. I seldom use more than 300x on my 18! Bruce Bodner had some great success collimating his SCT with an artificial star in daylight. Maybe he will chime in and describe the process ... it is difficult to collimate an sct alone, and if you are attempting collimation in poor seeing conditions, it can be a very frustrating time. Good luck. And keep your fingers crossed, MAYBE we can get our ducks all lined up for Chippokes this weekend! Ted In a message dated 2/24/2003 12:57:48 AM Eastern Standard Time, "joseph_piotrowski <joepiotrowski@...>" <joepiotrowski@...> writes:
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Re: First light
Congratulations, Joe!? I can understand your enthusiasm, finally getting to see "first light" on your new scope.? I hope to see you soon at one of our BBAA events.? Don't forget the monthly meeting, next Thursday, March 6th at TCC. George '3' Reynolds [So-called because when I joined the club, there were already two Georges, George Ikonen ("George I") and George Jordan (George 2).]? ?"joseph_piotrowski " wrote: All, George Reynolds, Deputy Commander, Tidewater South Section Royal Rangers Visit my Web page:? ? "Solar System Ambassador" for South Hampton Roads, Virginia ?Member, Back Bay Amateur Astronomers (BBAA)? Do you Yahoo!? - Powerful. Affordable. |
First light
All,
Well I finally got to use my new scope tonight. Its a C 9.25 on a Losmandy GM-8. I decided not to go with the C11 GPS for two reasons, size/weight and I'd rather not have goto.This way I'm forced to learn the night sky. Had fun(even though it was cold and only in my front driveway with all the neighbors lights).Polar alignment was a snap.The GM-8 tracked like a dream.I had to leave to pick up my teenage daughter from a friends house and when I got back Jupiter was still center. Saw M42 and M43 right away. Wow.Can really see the nebula and the 4 stars of the trapezium well. Saturn's rings were so/so. Could see A and B rings, but doubt I was seeing Cassini. View seemed to come and go.Pretty steady at 180X but pretty shakey at 293X.I assume that's due to seeing conditions. Jupiter was great.Saw a moon transit shadow very clearly.Not sure which one it was. Need to look it up. I had gotten Bob's knobs and put them on before I even looked through the scope.(as usual I did too much at once) I think I did the collimation correctly but not sure.Initially my dew shield(home made) was getting in the way and made the out of focus star lopsided.Need to read up on it also. Sorry to blather on like this but you have to realize that I have been struggling with a 60mm refractor for 2 years.This is my first serious scope. Can't wait for my first nightwatch. Joe |
Re: Nightwatch 28 Feb
Ted, I think it's not a bad idea to collect a dollar from each member when we attend Chippokes a buck won't break any of us.? (Besides, Georgie owes me a DOLLAH!) George ?twforte@... wrote: In a message dated 2/23/03 11:34:53 AM Eastern Standard Time, George Reynolds, Deputy Commander, Tidewater South Section Royal Rangers Visit my Web page:? ? "Solar System Ambassador" for South Hampton Roads, Virginia ?Member, Back Bay Amateur Astronomers (BBAA)? Do you Yahoo!? - Powerful. Affordable. |
Re: Another Atlas thought
Alas, Vicker's CCD Image North & South is no longer available in printed
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version. It might still be available in CD-Rom from Vicker. The address, at least in 1999 is as follows. The price is about $40 on CD. I really didn't mention it to Rick Bish since I was really recommending more entry level atlases. For a thorough "picture" atlas of galaxies, etc. this is THE definitive picture book atlas. It's not intended as a star atlas per se. Deep Space CCD Atlas North & South on CD-R Disc John Vickers and Alex Wassileff Web: Kent Blackwell ----- Original Message -----
From: <twforte@...> To: <backbayastro@...> Sent: Sunday, February 23, 2003 9:06 AM Subject: [backbayastro] Another Atlas thought Another thought on useful atlases (and I'm surprised Kent hasn't broughtthis up yet).is a collaboration between Vickers and Alexander Wassilieff) that I think isa marvelous tool. It comes as close as anything I've seen in mimicking whatis seen in the eyepiece.details that you would not have imagined possible.I think it has become much more sophisticated in follow-on versions. Ican't say I know if or where its available, (Perhaps Kent can chime in?) Butdon't miss an opportunity to pick up this atlas if you get the chance. |
Re: Nightwatch 28 Feb
Dale Carey
¿ªÔÆÌåÓýYes? Gerry told me he would bring the app to the next
meeting. I think I'll call
him and get it now.? Anyone want to go next week let
me know.
Dale
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Re: Nightwatch 28 Feb
¿ªÔÆÌåÓý----- Original Message ----- From: twforte@...
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>We need to send a representative out there to mend fences I
think.? But
things tend to take time in a volunteer organization, so I doubt that we'll get it fixed right away. ?
Hey folks!? Dale suggested he and I ride out there this coming
week but I'm not going to be able to go.? Perhaps you can still ride out
there Dale and talk to those folks?? Maybe you can pick up the permit from
Gerry and take that with you??
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Just a thought.
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Re: R.A. and Dec
¿ªÔÆÌåÓýMake that year Pluto will be favorably placed
2003? not 2004 as in my last post. Of course, it'll be nearly in the same
place in the sky in 2004 as well. Poor little old Pluto doesn't move among the
stars very fast, being so far away from?lonely planet earth.
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Kent Blackwell
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Re: R.A. and Dec
¿ªÔÆÌåÓýToo bad we'll have to wait until?August to
September to get another good glimpse of?either Uranus or?Neptune.
Currently Uranus is only 5-degrees from the sun and Neptune is about 20-degrees.
Next time you?spot Uranus it's surprising how bright it is, easily within
the grasp of small binoculars, and even naked-eye under a dark sky. It's really
exciting when you first see it in a telescope. The color is so unusual, compared
to surrounding stars. Neptune is a bit more challenging. Not only is it
minuscule in size but is on 1/5th as bright!? Boy or boy, is it ever
exciting to see such a distant solar system member, though. How about a real
challenge? One of BBAA club members?Charles Allewelt found 14th magnitude
Pluto with?his 6" Newtonian. Pluto will be favorably placed from early June
until late August 2004.
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Kent Blackwell
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Re: Nightwatch 28 Feb
In a message dated 2/23/03 11:34:53 AM Eastern Standard Time,
stargaz@... writes: << Anyone want to go next week let me know.>> Sorry. I can't go. But I do want to say that I prefer Saturdays over Fridays. I think we should try to negotiate a deal for a single $10.00 fee for a year's worth of use, but it should not be a deal breaker. If they want $10 each time, we should request a dollar from each member attending and make up any shortfall from the treasury. (The club might actually make a profit if everyone contributes). :>) Ted |
Re: R.A. and Dec
Just ask any of us with goto scopes at Nightwatch. We'll punch it right up for you. Neptune too.
Rob From: George Reynolds <pathfinder027@...> Reply-To: backbayastro@... To: backbayastro@... Subject: Re: [backbayastro] Re: R.A. and Dec Date: Sat, 22 Feb 2003 23:21:33 -0800 (PST) One of these evenings I'm going to . . . actually find Uranus using it'sRA / Dec! Good Luck! I was looking for Uranus last Fall at the Chiefland Star Party in Florida, in a nice dark sky, and was getting frustrated because I was following the directions I got from the magazines, Astronomy and Sky and Telescope. . . , but even though I knew where to look, I wasn't seeing it, because I didn't know what to look for. I went over to the guy next to me and asked him to find Uranus in his LX200 and let me see what it looks like. As soon as I saw it, and got the pattern of stars around it, I found it easily in my own scope by star-hopping. I actually had had it in my scope before, but it just looked like a medium-bright star. Once I knew what to look for, I found Uranus, and as I zeroed in on it, and increased the magnification, I could detect a pale greenish color, which I hadn't noticed before. G3 "Rick Bish <2bookworms@...>" <2bookworms@...> wrote:Thanks Ted and Kent! Your different perspectives were very complimentary and helpful. Also I'll keep my nose burried in my copy of Wil Tirion's book: The Cambridge Star Atlas. One of these evenings I'm going to go over to Jarvis Road, and actually find Uranus using it's RA / Dec! Rick Bish Yahoo! Groups SponsorADVERTISEMENT To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: backbayastro-unsubscribe@... Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. George Reynolds, Deputy Commander, Tidewater South Section Royal Rangers Visit my Web page: "Solar System Ambassador" for South Hampton Roads, Virginia Member, Back Bay Amateur Astronomers (BBAA) --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign up now _________________________________________________________________ The new MSN 8: advanced junk mail protection and 2 months FREE* |
Re: Moon map/atlas
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Re: Nightwatch 28 Feb
I hope we will get the "problem" at Chippokes straightened out soon. But the
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application for permit only just arrived and the disclaimer hints at "30-days" to process. So unless we can get a human intervention event of sorts, I don't think this month is going to pan out. Many members have expressed a strong interest in keeping Chippokes as an observing site both for the general pleasantness of the surrounds and the convenience of the facilities. Although the sky is mediocre, I like the place. We are not quite sure why the staff at Chippokes has taken a hardline stance all of a sudden. Its clear some perceived offense has been committed, and it appears as if they are trying to discourage our use of the park. Kyle Barber of False Cape State Park told me last Tuesday that he would try to call out there and find out what is going on, but I have not heard back from him. We need to send a representative out there to mend fences I think. But things tend to take time in a volunteer organization, so I doubt that we'll get it fixed right away. Ted In a message dated 2/22/03 5:36:36 PM Eastern Standard Time,
joepiotrowski@... writes: << Ted, Is there a problem with using Chippokes at all or just for this Friday? One of the more attractive things about the BBAA for me was the nearness of Chippokes for the nightwatch program.I have access to another site but there are no facilities(or lights) and I don't know if the farmer would agree to a crowd. Skies are pretty good with only a Williamsburg 20degree and Richmond 15degree glow.No visible lights. Also it might be harder for those from Virginia Beach. How many folks usually come to the Nightwatch? Joe >> |
Another Atlas thought
Another thought on useful atlases (and I'm surprised Kent hasn't brought this
up yet). There is a CCD "Deep Space" atlas by John C. Vickers (The southern version is a collaboration between Vickers and Alexander Wassilieff) that I think is a marvelous tool. It comes as close as anything I've seen in mimicking what is seen in the eyepiece. Seeing a picture of that 12th magnitude spiral will help you pick out details that you would not have imagined possible. Its worth owning. The version I have is the early home-published affair, I think it has become much more sophisticated in follow-on versions. I can't say I know if or where its available, (Perhaps Kent can chime in?) But don't miss an opportunity to pick up this atlas if you get the chance. |
Re: R.A. and Dec
In a message dated 2/23/03 2:22:08 AM Eastern Standard Time,
pathfinder027@... writes: << Good Luck! I was looking for Uranus last Fall at the Chiefland Star Party in Florida, in a nice dark sky, and was getting frustrated because I was following the directions I got from the magazines, Astronomy and Sky and Telescope. >> I think if you want to search for Uranus, Neptune, Pluto or that >6th magnitude comet, you should consider a computer atlas such as Megastar, The_Sky, Star Map, Sky Tools, Starry Night, etc. As you get into fainter or more obscure catalog items, printed atlases just won't do the job. A customized map printed for the time and location of your planned observing session will prove to be far superior to anything short of a "Go-To" scope. Different observers have their own preferences, I like Megastar the best, but with any of them you can make a map that is customized for your telescope ... you can set the magnitude of the stars displayed and rotate the field to mimic the view through the eyepiece. You can also display the FOV of the eyepiece you intend to use. With many of them, you can superimpose a photo of the object over the plotted star field to display the actual extent of the object. Knowing what's there is half way to seeing it after all. Ted |
Re: R.A. and Dec
>One of these evenings I'm going to . . .?actually find Uranus using it's RA / Dec! Good Luck!? I was looking for Uranus last Fall at the Chiefland Star Party in Florida, in a nice dark sky, and was getting frustrated because I was following the directions I got from the magazines, Astronomy and Sky and Telescope. . .?, but even though I knew where?to look, I wasn't seeing it, because I didn't know what to look for.? I went over to the guy next to me and asked him to find Uranus in his LX200 and let me see what it looks like.? As soon as I saw it, and got the pattern of stars around it, I found it easily in my own scope by star-hopping.? I actually had had it in my scope before, but it just looked like a medium-bright star.? Once I knew what to look for, I found Uranus, and as I zeroed in on it, and increased the magnification, I could detect a pale greenish color, which I hadn't noticed before. G3 ?"Rick Bish <2bookworms@...>" <2bookworms@...> wrote: Thanks Ted and Kent! Your different perspectives were very George Reynolds, Deputy Commander, Tidewater South Section Royal Rangers Visit my Web page:? ? "Solar System Ambassador" for South Hampton Roads, Virginia ?Member, Back Bay Amateur Astronomers (BBAA)? Do you Yahoo!? - Powerful. Affordable. |
Re: Moon map/atlas
Joe, Even though Rukl's is out of print, both Rob Schonk and I obtained copies on Half.com for about $25.? You put in a "pre-order" and then wait patiently.? You may have to extend your pre-order several times. The Cambridge Star Atlas has a couple pages on the moon's features, but probably not enough for all the objects on the Lunar Certificate.? You can buy some Moon Maps from the Astronomical League Store (either on-line or their paper catalog - contact our ALCOR, Georgie June), which are good.? They have two versions - regular and mirror-image (for the different types of scopes and inverted/reversed views or not). When I did the Lunar Club, I used a book I got through Half.com, Observing the Moon Through Binoculars and Small Telescopes, by Ernest H. Cherrington, Jr.? This is an excellent book, and I kept it by my scope every night I worked on the Lunar Certificate.? I did not have Rukl's at that time.? I also own Atlas of the Lunar Terminator, but I don't think it's as good as Cherrington's book.? I used the original edition, but there is a 2nd edition, updated several years ago.? The one I used pre-dated the manned Lunar landings! G3 ?"joseph_piotrowski " wrote: Dale, George Reynolds, Deputy Commander, Tidewater South Section Royal Rangers Visit my Web page:? ? "Solar System Ambassador" for South Hampton Roads, Virginia ?Member, Back Bay Amateur Astronomers (BBAA)? Do you Yahoo!? - Powerful. Affordable. |