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Short orchestral piece


 

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Hey all, sorry if you are getting this on the RWP list as well, I wanted to post to both places, hoping to get more folks to join us here so we can get more honest evaluation of our music.

So after weeks of working with it in my off time, I finally felt I had enough experience with Reaper to try my hand at an actual project. I am going to be submitting this to the Audio Wizards competition in the next couple of days.

I still need to tweak some timings, and I don¡¯t know crap about how to properly mix and master, so I just have some minor panning and volume control going on for separation currently, but as far as the feel of the piece, it is basically finished.

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Here¡¯s the link to the mp3. don¡¯t let the opening flute throw you, it gets a bit more interesting soon.

https://www.dropbox.com/s/2dixmle6rij2m9l/SwashBuckling11.mp3?dl=0

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Thanks all for any feedback, positive, negative, or in between.

Che

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Hey Che,

Nicely done, certainly the best thing you've posted this time around.
I reckon Juan's comments on RWP about the arrangement are spot on, so
won't attempt to expound upon those, but there's something nerdier
that might be worth considering. Have you experimented much with
quantize yet? I should say going into this that I'm not one of these
people who quantizes by default, and in many instances where I do use
it, I'll either humanize to a small percentage afterward or manually
reintroduce some imperfections, but I reckon most of these lines
(particularly any instrument with harder attack) could benefit from a
touch of tidying. You could perhaps try quanitizing then humanizing to
something like 5% as a starting point to see if you prefer it.

Both operations are undoable if it turns out I'm full of shit :)

Keep it up man.

Scott

On 6/27/19, Che Martin <blindadrenaline@...> wrote:
Hey all, sorry if you are getting this on the RWP list as well, I wanted to
post to both places, hoping to get more folks to join us here so we can get
more honest evaluation of our music.

So after weeks of working with it in my off time, I finally felt I had
enough experience with Reaper to try my hand at an actual project. I am
going to be submitting this to the Audio Wizards competition in the next
couple of days.

I still need to tweak some timings, and I don't know crap about how to
properly mix and master, so I just have some minor panning and volume
control going on for separation currently, but as far as the feel of the
piece, it is basically finished.



Here's the link to the mp3. don't let the opening flute throw you, it gets
a
bit more interesting soon.





Thanks all for any feedback, positive, negative, or in between.

Che









 

Thanks Scott,
This isn't my normal style of music, so I'm having to wrap my mind around a lot of new concepts, which is a good thing.
Yeah, I don't know what my stupidity is with quantizing, or what I am missing, but unless I am quantizing a simple 4/4 on the beat, it seems to destroy what I'm doing, putting notes in weird places and shit.
For instance, on my conga track, it felt like when I recorded and played it back live, I was very close to the quarter notes, but when I quantized it to 1/8, it just put notes all over the place seemingly, and I had to go in and slide things around in the MIDI editor.

I know it is supposed to kind of look for nearby notes to whatever time signature you have and lock them to the grid, at least I think that is how it works. But I've had to use the MIDI editor to go in and move notes manually to get what I want.
The way I've been doing it is check my quantize settings by hitting applications key on the track, going to quantize etc. and making sure it is set to 1/8 or whatever. Then I either check the quantize button, or hit control shift q on the items.At this point, I don't screw with any of the other settings.
I know many of my timings are off currently, and it would seem quantizing would be an easy solution, but it must be a silent propeller, cause I am missing the boat.
The propeller line seems slightly clever, but I have been up for 36 straight hours, so apologies if I am rambling.
Thanks again for the feedback man,
Che

-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Scott Chesworth
Sent: Thursday, June 27, 2019 12:32 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [BAFeedback] Short orchestral piece

Hey Che,

Nicely done, certainly the best thing you've posted this time around.
I reckon Juan's comments on RWP about the arrangement are spot on, so won't attempt to expound upon those, but there's something nerdier that might be worth considering. Have you experimented much with quantize yet? I should say going into this that I'm not one of these people who quantizes by default, and in many instances where I do use it, I'll either humanize to a small percentage afterward or manually reintroduce some imperfections, but I reckon most of these lines (particularly any instrument with harder attack) could benefit from a touch of tidying. You could perhaps try quanitizing then humanizing to something like 5% as a starting point to see if you prefer it.

Both operations are undoable if it turns out I'm full of shit :)

Keep it up man.

Scott

On 6/27/19, Che Martin <blindadrenaline@...> wrote:
Hey all, sorry if you are getting this on the RWP list as well, I
wanted to post to both places, hoping to get more folks to join us
here so we can get more honest evaluation of our music.

So after weeks of working with it in my off time, I finally felt I had
enough experience with Reaper to try my hand at an actual project. I
am going to be submitting this to the Audio Wizards competition in the
next couple of days.

I still need to tweak some timings, and I don't know crap about how to
properly mix and master, so I just have some minor panning and volume
control going on for separation currently, but as far as the feel of
the piece, it is basically finished.



Here's the link to the mp3. don't let the opening flute throw you, it
gets a bit more interesting soon.





Thanks all for any feedback, positive, negative, or in between.

Che









 

my issue with this is that the drum down beats are not in sync with the orchestral sounds consistently, sometimes they are and it's effective what you wish and then, when they aren't, since I find that distracting to what you wish as a musician, then I am drawn to the time issue. :)

Curtis Delzer
HS
K 6 V F O
Rialto, CA

curtis@...

On 6/27/2019 10:32 AM, Scott Chesworth wrote:
Hey Che,

Nicely done, certainly the best thing you've posted this time around.
I reckon Juan's comments on RWP about the arrangement are spot on, so
won't attempt to expound upon those, but there's something nerdier
that might be worth considering. Have you experimented much with
quantize yet? I should say going into this that I'm not one of these
people who quantizes by default, and in many instances where I do use
it, I'll either humanize to a small percentage afterward or manually
reintroduce some imperfections, but I reckon most of these lines
(particularly any instrument with harder attack) could benefit from a
touch of tidying. You could perhaps try quanitizing then humanizing to
something like 5% as a starting point to see if you prefer it.

Both operations are undoable if it turns out I'm full of shit :)

Keep it up man.

Scott

On 6/27/19, Che Martin <blindadrenaline@...> wrote:
Hey all, sorry if you are getting this on the RWP list as well, I wanted to
post to both places, hoping to get more folks to join us here so we can get
more honest evaluation of our music.

So after weeks of working with it in my off time, I finally felt I had
enough experience with Reaper to try my hand at an actual project. I am
going to be submitting this to the Audio Wizards competition in the next
couple of days.

I still need to tweak some timings, and I don't know crap about how to
properly mix and master, so I just have some minor panning and volume
control going on for separation currently, but as far as the feel of the
piece, it is basically finished.



Here's the link to the mp3. don't let the opening flute throw you, it gets
a
bit more interesting soon.





Thanks all for any feedback, positive, negative, or in between.

Che









 

Hey Curtis,
Yeah man, I definitely have some off beat issues in there, and I'm having to go into MIDI editor and get them fixed.
For some reason, I'm not getting the quantize to work for me, not sure what I am doing wrong. I know it should be a fairly simple process, but unless I am quantizing the whole notes in a measure, it is screwing things up worse for me.
I was waiting to fix all the timing issues until I got a basic template for instruments and melody down, as fixing timing in MIDI editor is time consuming, even when I am doing one item and then mostly looping it.
I'll be posting the revision when it is ready, thanks for the feedback man.
Che

-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Curtis Delzer
Sent: Thursday, June 27, 2019 1:59 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [BAFeedback] Short orchestral piece

my issue with this is that the drum down beats are not in sync with the orchestral sounds consistently, sometimes they are and it's effective what you wish and then, when they aren't, since I find that distracting to what you wish as a musician, then I am drawn to the time issue. :)

Curtis Delzer
HS
K 6 V F O
Rialto, CA

curtis@...

On 6/27/2019 10:32 AM, Scott Chesworth wrote:
Hey Che,

Nicely done, certainly the best thing you've posted this time around.
I reckon Juan's comments on RWP about the arrangement are spot on, so
won't attempt to expound upon those, but there's something nerdier
that might be worth considering. Have you experimented much with
quantize yet? I should say going into this that I'm not one of these
people who quantizes by default, and in many instances where I do use
it, I'll either humanize to a small percentage afterward or manually
reintroduce some imperfections, but I reckon most of these lines
(particularly any instrument with harder attack) could benefit from a
touch of tidying. You could perhaps try quanitizing then humanizing to
something like 5% as a starting point to see if you prefer it.

Both operations are undoable if it turns out I'm full of shit :)

Keep it up man.

Scott

On 6/27/19, Che Martin <blindadrenaline@...> wrote:
Hey all, sorry if you are getting this on the RWP list as well, I
wanted to post to both places, hoping to get more folks to join us
here so we can get more honest evaluation of our music.

So after weeks of working with it in my off time, I finally felt I
had enough experience with Reaper to try my hand at an actual
project. I am going to be submitting this to the Audio Wizards
competition in the next couple of days.

I still need to tweak some timings, and I don't know crap about how
to properly mix and master, so I just have some minor panning and
volume control going on for separation currently, but as far as the
feel of the piece, it is basically finished.



Here's the link to the mp3. don't let the opening flute throw you, it
gets a bit more interesting soon.





Thanks all for any feedback, positive, negative, or in between.

Che