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Bruce's millimeter wave-microwave hobby
¿ªÔÆÌåÓýBruce I was reading a old post today where ya mentioned yer " millimeter wave-microwave hobby " . Any chance when ya have some time ya can expand some on just what the hobby is ? thanks animal |
Back in 1959 and 1960 I developed a hobby interest in frequencies of 100 GHz and higher and constructed apparatus with which to generate and detect these frequencies by multiplying the output frequency of high frequency klystron tubes, but had to set this interest aside when career and family obligations increased.? In retirement, I have returned to this interest on a hobby basis, joining a band of radio amateurs who are now developing similar interests.? These frequencies are coming into use now for automotive radar and being explored for? future 6G applications.? The hobby interest is sort of a combination of physics and watch-making. Regards, Bruce
On Wednesday, November 20, 2024 at 04:12:07 PM PST, mike allen <animal@...> wrote:
Bruce I was reading a old post today where ya mentioned yer " millimeter wave-microwave hobby " . Any chance when ya have some time ya can expand some on just what the hobby is ? thanks animal |
¿ªÔÆÌåÓýThanks , there's a whole lot of Klystrons out there with my dad/s
name on them , I grew up hearing that as a everyday word . It's
always kinda neat to hear from someone that even knows what a
Klystron is . I had a bud that hung a " Danger Klystron " sign on
a closet door on one of his ships & that's where they used to
stash the stuff the brought back from leave that they weren't
supposed to have . I have another bud that became a radio ham guy
after he discovered that was part of a band that was reserved for
for RC hobby . Your hobby sounds like a interesting one . Myself I
would like to get to the point where I could make decent weather
station from scratch someday . my kid sent me this last week on
makin a clock . SO what are they doing with automotive radar ? Are
there any projects that ya can send a link to ? thanks animal On 11/20/24 5:20 PM, ebrucehunter via
groups.io wrote:
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OK. How about some more details, and maybe photos? I spent the last dozen years of my Air Force career in SATCOM, in the 7-8.4ghz range. ID of our waveguide was around 3/4"x1-1/4" or so. Mind you I've been out of the field for longer than I was in the USAF, so no telling how accurate my memory is. ;) I'd be willing to host such discussion on one of my IO groups that's not getting much use these days if that would be preferable to this groups owner(s).? Bill in OKC William R. Meyers, MSgt, USAF(Ret.) Aphorisms to live by: Good judgement comes from experience. Experience comes from bad judgement.? SEMPER GUMBY! Physics doesn't care about your schedule. The only reason I know anything is because I've done it wrong enough times to START to know better. Expect in one hand, expectorate in the other. See which one gets full first.
On Wednesday, November 20, 2024 at 07:20:22 PM CST, ebrucehunter via groups.io <brucekareen@...> wrote:
Back in 1959 and 1960 I developed a hobby interest in frequencies of 100 GHz and higher and constructed apparatus with which to generate and detect these frequencies by multiplying the output frequency of high frequency klystron tubes, but had to set this interest aside when career and family obligations increased.? In retirement, I have returned to this interest on a hobby basis, joining a band of radio amateurs who are now developing similar interests.? These frequencies are coming into use now for automotive radar and being explored for? future 6G applications.? The hobby interest is sort of a combination of physics and watch-making. Regards, Bruce
On Wednesday, November 20, 2024 at 04:12:07 PM PST, mike allen <animal@...> wrote:
Bruce I was reading a old post today where ya mentioned yer " millimeter wave-microwave hobby " . Any chance when ya have some time ya can expand some on just what the hobby is ? thanks animal |
I became interested in VHF, UHF, and eventually the generation and transmission of microwaves, as a youth, and had constructed a lot of homemade experimental apparatus when in 1959 I happened to talk with a couple of engineers from Stanford Research who were working on an apparatus to generate 100 GHz signals.? After some research and a lot of thought, this inspired me to obtain a WW-II surplus, 25 GHz range klystron tube and to purchase necessary waveguide and flanges to construct 4X frequency multipliers.? A little later, I was able to obtain a better, 33.3 GHz post-war klystron tube and develope suitable X3 multipliers that proved more efficient.? Internal dimensions of the WR-8 100 GHz waveguide are 0.04¡± by 0.08¡±.? This is a worldwide standard.? A brief account of this work is found in an older account on the Netherlands amateur microwave site at . ? A ?hobby group centered on constructing and operating equipment at these higher frequencies is found at ; although it has not been very active lately because much of the interest has shifted to /g/The122GProject/topics , a group centered around adaption of automotive radar chips to function as transceivers in the 122 GHz amateur radio band.? A brilliant Australian engineer and his fellow amateurs have designed and arranged for manufacture of these transceiver boards at an affordable price, allowing amateurs around the world to experience and investigate the peculiarities of transmission and reception at these frequencies. ? Various complexities are encountered in fabricating apparatus for these frequencies.? Now in my late 80¡¯s I¡¯ve not accomplished anything of note; however, those interested in exploring further might enjoy the work of Neil Smith, G4DBN, an exceptionally talented British engineer, machinist, radio amateur and presenter at .? Some of his interesting U-Tube videos can be viewed through links on this site.? ? Bruce, KG6OJI |
More info please.? We used to use the magnets off of magnetrons for shelves, they would stick nicely to the iron pipes in the barracks.? One of my room mates swapped out a lot of high dollar klystrons.? We were working on Nike Hercules equipment in Germany (HHB 5/6 ADA).? I was a van rat the fixed stuff from the sites and had two room mates that covered all of the radar and computer equipment.? Later on I had a missile and launcher guy as a room mate.? There wasn't much that the people in that barracks couldn't fix. Dave On Wed, Nov 20, 2024 at 8:20?PM ebrucehunter via <Brucekareen=[email protected]> wrote:
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