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fantasy gaming vs real challenges (was Re: Expensive Games)
This is way out there, but I feel like people can never get enough of
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(be satisfied by) something that isn't really satisfying. Diving into fantasy games is exciting, but hollow in the end because you have nothing real to show for it. It all is social I agree, but nothing lasting is accomplished. There's always one more set of figures, books, dice, or scenarios to buy. What if gamers took their money, brains, time and friends, and spent it building a house for Habitat for Humanity? Planting a garden in some public place? Improving the lives of others somehow in a lasting and tangible way. Wouldn't that ultimately be more satisfying than the pursuit of the next pot metal battle piece? Volunteer work could be a hobby too. It can be satisfying to build something that will last, and you can look back on the time and say you really made a difference. They won't do that because it's not easy? Because we don't do it ourselves? Because why? Not trying to attack any specific people, just thinking out loud, and wondering how so many people can have so much money to spend on something so opposite of real. What do they get from the games and pursuit of material goods, that they can't get from real action? It's just a puzzle to me. One more thing: I am not suggesting that we are the owners of our kids, or that gamers are inferior in any way. I just wish that energy, time, and money, were used for the power it could really have. The power of positive lasting change in the real world. may your life be joyous Makana --- In AlwaysLearning@y..., Jocelyn Vilter <JVilter@m...> wrote:
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Cindy
vegan4planet@... wrote:
(snip) Can't your argument against gaming be applied to reading books, listening to music, hiking in the woods, watching the sunset, etc.? By your argument none of these activities have any value because nothing lasting is accomplished. I would argue that all of these including gaming can have value. The value is just not physical. -- Cindy Ferguson crma@... |
Hi Sandra and Cindy,
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I'm sorry that I got myself off to a bad start. When I read my post after it was on the list (and too late to fix anything) I really felt like a air head. It came out all stupid somehow. I guess I was thinking conflicting things, but not putting them down right. Sorry about that. I'm so used to the face to face type of conversation. I think all the things you guys mentioned are satisfying and have lasting value because they connect ut to the real world around us. Gaming can be a connection with friends that is valuable too. I was just upset (and that's just my own problem, not anybody else's) about spending either tons of money, or money that I don't have, on specialty things that some game designer said I must have or I cannot play. That is probably what was really bothering me. A friend of mine really enjoys working with Habitat for Humanity, but that's only mentioned because he is normally a computer recluse, but he found alot of fun in the project. I will try to be more careful about how and what I post. I really don't want to stir up things with my half baked thoughts. I want to encourage and contribute, not attack or criticize. Sorry about that. I really liked the ideas of making up your own games too. We do that some. The best things in life are so very free. peace be with you Makana --- In AlwaysLearning@y..., Cindy <crma@i...> wrote:
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I started volunteering at an animal shelter four years ago. A few women
with good intentions got in way over their heads with a no kill shelter. Before they knew it they had forty five dogs and dozens of cats. I went there looking for my friend's cat who had vanished. They had no money except what they could personally contribute. I felt the only thing I could do was plunge in and help. It cost us a small fortune. I spent more on that volunteer work than any of us have ever spent in the pursuit of entertainment. Not only the money but the commitment of time. My son was with me but for months on end I never had any time with my husband. New cats were coming in all the time. People would say, if we didn't take the cats they'd be killed. So naturally we'd try to make room. They would have to be quarantined, vaccinated, spayed. Each new cat cost the shelter (us) a minimum of $100. (that's if they weren't sick ) and that didn't include food and litter pan, etc. One of the very committed volunteers left when her husband threatened divorce over the issue. Things are better at the shelter after an organized fund raising drive, sponsors and several grants, but the point is, doing something *real* can cost plenty. It can tear you up emotionally, threaten a happy home life and put you in debt. Yes, it can be worth it, but it's not always the beautiful picture of fulfillment painted by the TV commercials. I have found a replacement and am taking some time off. Maybe forever. Where's that chess board... Deb L, also vegan, HI Makana!! |
KT
I think that's a pretty big assumption that folks who play games don't *also* do the sort of things you're talking about. It's not either/or. Tuck |
Tami Labig-Duquette
Deb, aren't you in IL? I have some food and other animal things I could give you. I am in IN.
Indiana Tami "You must be the change you wish to see in the world" ~Ghandi Networking for Central Indiana unschoolers :) Children Leading the Way! Fun site for your kids or even you :) ----Original Message Follows---- From: ddzimlew@... Reply-To: AlwaysLearning@... To: AlwaysLearning@... Subject: Re: [AlwaysLearning] fantasy gaming vs real challenges (was Re: Expensive Games) Date: Tue, 27 Nov 2001 05:19:17 -0700 I started volunteering at an animal shelter four years ago. A few women with good intentions got in way over their heads with a no kill shelter. Before they knew it they had forty five dogs and dozens of cats. I went there looking for my friend's cat who had vanished. They had no money except what they could personally contribute. I felt the only thing I could do was plunge in and help. It cost us a small fortune. I spent more on that volunteer work than any of us have ever spent in the pursuit of entertainment. Not only the money but the commitment of time. My son was with me but for months on end I never had any time with my husband. New cats were coming in all the time. People would say, if we didn't take the cats they'd be killed. So naturally we'd try to make room. They would have to be quarantined, vaccinated, spayed. Each new cat cost the shelter (us) a minimum of $100. (that's if they weren't sick ) and that didn't include food and litter pan, etc. One of the very committed volunteers left when her husband threatened divorce over the issue. Things are better at the shelter after an organized fund raising drive, sponsors and several grants, but the point is, doing something *real* can cost plenty. It can tear you up emotionally, threaten a happy home life and put you in debt. Yes, it can be worth it, but it's not always the beautiful picture of fulfillment painted by the TV commercials. I have found a replacement and am taking some time off. Maybe forever. Where's that chess board... Deb L, also vegan, HI Makana!! To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: AlwaysLearning-unsubscribe@... Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at |
Elizabeth Hill
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vegan4planet@... wrote: This is way out there, but I feel like people can never get enough of
Betsy |
Elizabeth Hill
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vegan4planet@... wrote: ?Hi, Makana -- This is a valuable topic for me.? (I need to work on it myself.) I do struggle with sometimes thinking memorizing all the exports of Brazil (say) is more valuable than memorizing the properties of all the Pokemon characters. Sometimes I don't see the value in learning a lot about something that is fictional? And yet, I spend a lot of time dwelling in fictional realms myself. Wonder if my thoughts would be different if their was a major Pokemon "exit exam" that all 10 year olds had to take?? Hmmmm.? (Don't everybody shudder at once!) Betsy |
Cindy
vegan4planet@... wrote:
I had no problem with your post - just that I thought you might not have considered some aspects of gaming. I agree that a lot of money is spent on them - the console game market alone is *huge*! In a more perfect world people wouldn't be going hungry or without adequate shelter while others spent spent lots of money on luxury items. -- Cindy Ferguson crma@... |