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Jim Dunmyer
Be aware that the present MM lathe is a 7X16 that sells for $795.00. It has a 500 watt brushless motor and no gear shift, so is a bit quieter than most others. The usual accessories are included: wrenches, change gears, and outside chuck jaws. The tailstock is a cam-lock design, and there is an OPTIONAL tachometer. The full info is here: ,9615.html
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A year or so ago, MM sold a 7X14 lathe that had a slightly smaller motor with a gear shift that uses metal gears. It's a bit noisier than the models with plastic gears, albeit should be a bit more durable. The digital tachometer was builtin and included, tailstock was camlock. It sold for $595.00, and included the above accessories. Both lathes are "True Inch", so there is no error in the cross-slide and compound lead screws, the travel is .050" per revolution. Most others use a metric thread that gives you pretty close to .040"/rev. I bought my MM 7X14 in like-new condition from a fella who had picked it up in a trade. Unfortunately, both of us confused it with the 7X16, so I paid too much. However, I AM happy with the machine. My previous one was a H.F. 7X10, and the lack of "headroom" bugged me. I was otherwise quite happy with the lathe. To answer your question, the price would depend on which one it is. A fair price for a like-new machine (to me) would be list minus $100.00 ->$200.00. Dunno about metric lathes, but if you want to cut metric threads, you can get "close enough" for many threads with the stock gears. Add a 21-tooth gear into the mix and you can get "close enough" for a bunch more threads. See: In my experience, the MM lathes need the same TLC by the new owner as any of the others of this genre. <<Jim>> ----- Original Message -----
From: "gwelo62" <gwelo62@...> To: <7x12minilathe@...> Sent: Thursday, October 13, 2011 3:03 PM Subject: [7x12minilathe] used minilathes What is a fair price for a used micromark lathe? It looks almost unused. |
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here are some determining factors that may help you decide what you want to pay
for it.
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1.
What size MicroMark are you referring to? The new 7x16 or the older 7x14 with
the built in digital speed readout?
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2. Are
you picking it up or having to have it shipped? If it ships it needs to be
broken down into two boxes (7x16 only) because of the the weight. MicroMark adds
$65 for shipping in the US.
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3. If
you are picking it up, it is probably already assembled. This will save you some
time, but assembling it does provide you with a small education of the
lathe.
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I
bought my MM 7x16 for $729.95 + $65 S&H in October of this year when
MicroMark normally puts their machines on sale. Now it lists for $795.95 + $65
S&H
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It is
a really nice lathe with lots of power. The compound, cross feed, and tail stock
are all True-Inch. All the other threads on any screws or bolts on the lathe are
metric.
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Good
luck,
Michael
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It's my experience that used smaller machine tools often sell for a remarkably high percentage of their retail price. Especially if there is a little tooling thrown in to "sweeten" the deal.
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There just seem to be a lot of people who want a small lathe at home so it is somewhat of a sellers market. I would first try to sell it locally to avoid any shipping hassle. You know, Craigs List or local ads. There's enough money and weight to make it worth it for someone to drive a substantial distance to pick it up. (And the buyer can know they are saving themselves retailer shipping charges that way making the deal better yet for them.) It's almost (but not quite) like selling one of the Bose Wave radios. I have seen these things, new in the box, being auctioned on ebay where the bidding gets to within 1 dollar of just buying a new one. These mini-lathes might not be at that extreme, but I think the desirability is more like that than not. Chuck K. --- In 7x12minilathe@..., "Michael Jablonski" <michaeljab@...> wrote:
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Im not sure having only 500 watts with no low gear is a good build IMHO, at low spindle rpm there is hardly any fan cooling going on in the motor.
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--- In 7x12minilathe@..., "Jim Dunmyer" <jdunmyer@...> wrote:
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The new brushless motor"super"? versions of the mini-lathe are far more capable in the power and torque department than the older DC controlled versions (which are still available at a cheaper price)). The two speed gears are not missed and the torque is much superior at all speeds, especially when large diameter low speed is required. The risk of overheating in those conditions is less than the older models Gerry Leeds UK To: 7x12minilathe@... From: my340sixpak@... Date: Fri, 14 Oct 2011 12:27:46 +0000 Subject: [7x12minilathe] Re: used minilathes ?
Im not sure having only 500 watts with no low gear is a good build IMHO, at low spindle rpm there is hardly any fan cooling going on in the motor. --- In 7x12minilathe@..., "Jim Dunmyer" wrote: > > Be aware that the present MM lathe is a 7X16 that sells for $795.00. It has > a 500 watt brushless motor and no gear shift, so is a bit quieter than most > others. The usual accessories are included: wrenches, change gears, and > outside chuck jaws. The tailstock is a cam-lock design, and there is an > OPTIONAL tachometer. The full info is here: > > > A year or so ago, MM sold a 7X14 lathe that had a slightly smaller motor > with a gear shift that uses metal gears. It's a bit noisier than the models > with plastic gears, albeit should be a bit more durable. The digital > tachometer was builtin and included, tailstock was camlock. It sold for > $595.00, and included the above accessories. > > Both lathes are "True Inch", so there is no error in the cross-slide and > compound lead screws, the travel is .050" per revolution. Most others use a > metric thread that gives you pretty close to .040"/rev. > > I bought my MM 7X14 in like-new condition from a fella who had picked it up > in a trade. Unfortunately, both of us confused it with the 7X16, so I paid > too much. However, I AM happy with the machine. My previous one was a H.F. > 7X10, and the lack of "headroom" bugged me. I was otherwise quite happy with > the lathe. > > To answer your question, the price would depend on which one it is. A fair > price for a like-new machine (to me) would be list minus $100.00 ->$200.00. > > Dunno about metric lathes, but if you want to cut metric threads, you can > get "close enough" for many threads with the stock gears. Add a 21-tooth > gear into the mix and you can get "close enough" for a bunch more threads. > See: > > > In my experience, the MM lathes need the same TLC by the new owner as any of > the others of this genre. > > > <> > > > ----- Original Message -----
> From: "gwelo62" <gwelo62@...> > To: <7x12minilathe@...> > Sent: Thursday, October 13, 2011 3:03 PM > Subject: [7x12minilathe] used minilathes > > > > What is a fair price for a used micromark lathe? It looks almost unused. > > > > Are any of the US importers bringing in metric lathes? > > > > > > > > > |
I got one Tuesday (Penn Tools yellow CJ-9518) with no belt and bad drive gear (? correct name), decent shape otherwise for $200.00. Came with some tooling. Waiting for my replacement stuff...$30 or so to get up and running.
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Hi David, ? That seems a pretty good deal. Is this the one:??? If so, it looks very like my lathe which is from Weiss Machinery in China, but badged by Warco,?a dealer here in the UK, with their own name. Mine has a tacho, but I rarely look at it.There are a few tips on making?Weiss lathes more user-friendly on my website here ?. ? Andy ? PS?You mention "no drive belt". Mine has two drive belts, one from the motor to an intermediate pulley, and the other from there to the spindle. They are both the same size. ?? ? To: 7x12minilathe@... From: dave@... Date: Thu, 27 Oct 2011 18:32:43 +0000 Subject: [7x12minilathe] Re: used minilathes ?
I got one Tuesday (Penn Tools yellow CJ-9518) with no belt and bad drive gear (? correct name), decent shape otherwise for $200.00. Came with some tooling. Waiting for my replacement stuff...$30 or so to get up and running. Dave --- In 7x12minilathe@..., "Charles" wrote: > > It's my experience that used smaller machine tools often sell for a remarkably high percentage of their retail price. Especially if there is a little tooling thrown in to "sweeten" the deal. > > There just seem to be a lot of people who want a small lathe at home so it is somewhat of a sellers market. I would first try to sell it locally to avoid any shipping hassle. You know, Craigs List or local ads. There's enough money and weight to make it worth it for someone to drive a substantial distance to pick it up. (And the buyer can know they are saving themselves retailer shipping charges that way making the deal better yet for them.) > > It's almost (but not quite) like selling one of the Bose Wave radios. I have seen these things, new in the box, being auctioned on ebay where the bidding gets to within 1 dollar of just buying a new one. These mini-lathes might not be at that extreme, but I think the desirability is more like that than not. > > Chuck K. > > --- In 7x12minilathe@..., "Michael Jablonski" wrote: > > > > Well here are some determining factors that may help you decide what you > > want to pay for it. > > > > 1. What size MicroMark are you referring to? The new 7x16 or the older 7x14 > > with the built in digital speed readout? > > > > 2. Are you picking it up or having to have it shipped? If it ships it needs > > to be broken down into two boxes (7x16 only) because of the the weight. > > MicroMark adds $65 for shipping in the US. > > > > 3. If you are picking it up, it is probably already assembled. This will > > save you some time, but assembling it does provide you with a small > > education of the lathe. > > > > I bought my MM 7x16 for $729.95 + $65 S&H in October of this year when > > MicroMark normally puts their machines on sale. Now it lists for $795.95 + > > $65 S&H > > > > It is a really nice lathe with lots of power. The compound, cross feed, and > > tail stock are all True-Inch. All the other threads on any screws or bolts > > on the lathe are metric. > > > > Good luck, > > Michael > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: 7x12minilathe@... [mailto:7x12minilathe@...] > > On Behalf Of gwelo62 > > Sent: Thursday, October 13, 2011 12:04 PM > > To: 7x12minilathe@... > > Subject: [7x12minilathe] used minilathes > > > > > > > > > > What is a fair price for a used micromark lathe? It looks almost unused. > > > > Are any of the US importers bringing in metric lathes? > > > |
Hmmm, mine is more like this one, but in yellow.
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It looks just like an older sieg and has quite a few of the parts labeled as such. This one has a plastic gear on the motor shaft, one belt, then another plastic gear. It's not directly to the spindle. I'm waiting on the parts now... this is my first machine tool, I've got a bunch to learn. --- In 7x12minilathe@..., Andrew Franks <andyf1108@...> wrote:
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Ah, right, yours is indeed a Seig. The orange affair I was looking at said "See CJ9518" so I thought they were the same lathe. They must have stopped selling the Weiss. It's easier to source spare parts for Seigs, as you have found. ? Happy turning, once your parts arrive. Stay safe; wear eye protection and don't get caught up in the whirly bits! ? Andy ? ? To: 7x12minilathe@... From: dave@... Date: Fri, 28 Oct 2011 17:28:27 +0000 Subject: [7x12minilathe] Re: used minilathes ? Hmmm, mine is more like this one, but in yellow. It looks just like an older sieg and has quite a few of the parts labeled as such. This one has a plastic gear on the motor shaft, one belt, then another plastic gear. It's not directly to the spindle. I'm waiting on the parts now... this is my first machine tool, I've got a bunch to learn. --- In 7x12minilathe@..., Andrew Franks wrote: > > > Hi David, > > That seems a pretty good deal. Is this the one: ? > If so, it looks very like my lathe which is from Weiss Machinery in China, but badged by Warco, a dealer here in the UK, with their own name. Mine has a tacho, but I rarely look at it.There are a few tips on making Weiss lathes more user-friendly on my website here . > > Andy > > PS You mention "no drive belt". Mine has two drive belts, one from the motor to an intermediate pulley, and the other from there to the spindle. They are both the same size. > > > > > > > To: 7x12minilathe@... > From: dave@... > Date: Thu, 27 Oct 2011 18:32:43 +0000 > Subject: [7x12minilathe] Re: used minilathes > > > > > > > I got one Tuesday (Penn Tools yellow CJ-9518) with no belt and bad drive gear (? correct name), decent shape otherwise for $200.00. Came with some tooling. Waiting for my replacement stuff...$30 or so to get up and running. > > Dave > > --- In 7x12minilathe@..., "Charles" wrote: > > > > It's my experience that used smaller machine tools often sell for a remarkably high percentage of their retail price. Especially if there is a little tooling thrown in to "sweeten" the deal. > > > > There just seem to be a lot of people who want a small lathe at home so it is somewhat of a sellers market. I would first try to sell it locally to avoid any shipping hassle. You know, Craigs List or local ads. There's enough money and weight to make it worth it for someone to drive a substantial distance to pick it up. (And the buyer can know they are saving themselves retailer shipping charges that way making the deal better yet for them.) > > > > It's almost (but not quite) like selling one of the Bose Wave radios. I have seen these things, new in the box, being auctioned on ebay where the bidding gets to within 1 dollar of just buying a new one. These mini-lathes might not be at that extreme, but I think the desirability is more like that than not. > > > > Chuck K. > > > > --- In 7x12minilathe@..., "Michael Jablonski" > > > > > > Well here are some determining factors that may help you decide what you > > > want to pay for it. > > > > > > 1. What size MicroMark are you referring to? The new 7x16 or the older 7x14 > > > with the built in digital speed readout? > > > > > > 2. Are you picking it up or having to have it shipped? If it ships it needs > > > to be broken down into two boxes (7x16 only) because of the the weight. > > > MicroMark adds $65 for shipping in the US. > > > > > > 3. If you are picking it up, it is probably already assembled. This will > > > save you some time, but assembling it does provide you with a small > > > education of the lathe. > > > > > > I bought my MM 7x16 for $729.95 + $65 S&H in October of this year when > > > MicroMark normally puts their machines on sale. Now it lists for $795.95 + > > > $65 S&H > > > > > > It is a really nice lathe with lots of power. The compound, cross feed, and > > > tail stock are all True-Inch. All the other threads on any screws or bolts > > > on the lathe are metric. > > > > > > Good luck, > > > Michael > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: 7x12minilathe@... [mailto:7x12minilathe@...] > > > On Behalf Of gwelo62 > > > Sent: Thursday, October 13, 2011 12:04 PM > > > To: 7x12minilathe@... > > > Subject: [7x12minilathe] used minilathes > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > What is a fair price for a used micromark lathe? It looks almost unused. > > > > > > Are any of the US importers bringing in metric lathes? > > > > > > |
Jerry Durand
On 10/28/2011 10:28 AM, David wrote:
I'm waiting on the parts now... this is my first machine tool, I've got a bunch to learn.#1: Pay Attention! Machine tools can seriously damage your future. #2: don't rush or push the machine they don't like it, it will show in the work, may damage the machine, and may take you for a visit to #1. -- Jerry Durand, Durand Interstellar, Inc. www.interstellar.com tel: +1 408 356-3886, USA toll free: 1 866 356-3886 Skype: jerrydurand |
Jerry,
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I tend to tread lightly. I've witnessed how lack of respect, lack of attention and lack of knowledge can have very painful results. --- In 7x12minilathe@..., Jerry Durand <jdurand@...> wrote:
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? It includes a bed casting, a lead screw, a rack, a motor mount, a chip pan, 2 chip pan braces, several fasteners, and complete instructions. Regular price at LMS $149.95 + shipping (weight 33.78lb) LMS is back ordered on this item I am selling this complete kit, I Purchased it last year and never used it, still in original packaging and grease. Only the outside shipping carton has been changed as the original cardboard was starting to tear out. My price $120.00 that’s a $30.00 saving and I have it now Shipping extra Canada Post or UPS to you what ever is the cheapest I am in Canada but can ship to USA and I will take PayPal payments Email me at nigeld@... or respond the group Thanks Chuck (nigel d) ? |