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Hi, I too have a Seig 7x12 and have been wondering about milling too,

The smaller lathe has a milling attachment one can buy - but it won't fit
the 7x12 (I believe). Does anyone know of one that will fit? I do have a DVD
from Chronos UK that shows a Taig/Peatol attachment (with a few minor mods)
being able to fit the 7x10/12. Has anyone any experience of doing this? If
so, what's the max capacity for milling?

I'm sure many will say - buy the Seig X-1/2/3 but Taig/Peatol also do a
standalone milling machine for approx ?550 (UK Pounds). Is this better than
the equivalent mill from Seig?

Thanks

Richard (UK)

hi Richard,
For that sort of money, you can buy this:

mind you, it'd take up quite a bit more space than a micro- or even a mini-mill.
You should be able to get a milling attachment for the mini-lathe - ?68 is the best price that I've seen, Sieg brand, too.

Hugh
(London UK)

Richard Stevens <rtjstevens@...> wrote:
Hi, I too have a Seig 7x12 and have been wondering about milling too,

The smaller lathe has a milling attachment one can buy - but it won't fit
the 7x12 (I believe). Does anyone know of one that will fit? I do have a DVD
from Chronos UK that shows a Taig/Peatol attachment (with a few minor mods)
being able to fit the 7x10/12. Has anyone any experience of doing this? If
so, what's the max capacity for milling?

I'm sure many will say - buy the Seig X-1/2/3 but Taig/Peatol also do a
standalone milling machine for approx ?550 (UK Pounds). Is this better than
the equivalent mill from Seig?

Thanks

Richard (UK)






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Have you seen this?

A friend has one, he is happy doing basic work, but he said it can
only handle small cuts or he has a chatter problem.


--- In 7x12minilathe@..., Richard Stevens <rtjstevens@...>
wrote:

Hi, I too have a Seig 7x12 and have been wondering about milling too,

The smaller lathe has a milling attachment one can buy - but it

won't fit

the 7x12 (I believe). Does anyone know of one that will fit? I do

have a DVD

from Chronos UK that shows a Taig/Peatol attachment (with a few

minor mods)

being able to fit the 7x10/12. Has anyone any experience of doing

this? If

so, what's the max capacity for milling?

I'm sure many will say - buy the Seig X-1/2/3 but Taig/Peatol also do a
standalone milling machine for approx ?550 (UK Pounds). Is this

better than

the equivalent mill from Seig?

Thanks

Richard (UK)

I've got one of those vertical slides. It's fittted by removing the topslide and fastening it down to the "swivel disk" in the cross-slide. It would have been better if it had T-slots to fasten jobs (or a vise) to the front of it, rather than that big, overhanging, "toolpost" arrangement. Check if your cross-slide will wind far enough over to make full use of its 2.7" (approx) width. To adjust the depth of cut with a milling cutter in the chuck (or collet), the carriage handwheel isn't nearly precise enough; you will need a handwheel and graduated dial on the outboard end of the leadscrew. As I've previously remarked, I wish I'd put the money into a mini-mill fund.
Andy

Steve Claggett <790racer@...> wrote:
Have you seen this?

A friend has one, he is happy doing basic work, but he said it can
only handle small cuts or he has a chatter problem.

--- In 7x12minilathe@..., Richard Stevens <rtjstevens@...>
wrote:

Hi, I too have a Seig 7x12 and have been wondering about milling too,

The smaller lathe has a milling attachment one can buy - but it

won't fit

the 7x12 (I believe). Does anyone know of one that will fit? I do

have a DVD

from Chronos UK that shows a Taig/Peatol attachment (with a few

minor mods)

being able to fit the 7x10/12. Has anyone any experience of doing

this? If

so, what's the max capacity for milling?

I'm sure many will say - buy the Seig X-1/2/3 but Taig/Peatol also do a
standalone milling machine for approx ?550 (UK Pounds). Is this

better than

the equivalent mill from Seig?

Thanks

Richard (UK)

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A milling slide vice for lathe means you are limited by the lathe speed.
You will not be able to mill with the smaller bits which will need higher speeds.

Gavin

From: andrew franks <andyf1108@...>
Reply-To: 7x12minilathe@...
To: 7x12minilathe@...
Subject: Re: [7x12minilathe] Re: Micromill vs Minimill .... Now milling attachment
Date: Sun, 25 Mar 2007 02:48:23 +0100 (BST)

I've got one of those vertical slides. It's fittted by removing the topslide and fastening it down to the "swivel disk" in the cross-slide. It would have been better if it had T-slots to fasten jobs (or a vise) to the front of it, rather than that big, overhanging, "toolpost" arrangement. Check if your cross-slide will wind far enough over to make full use of its 2.7" (approx) width. To adjust the depth of cut with a milling cutter in the chuck (or collet), the carriage handwheel isn't nearly precise enough; you will need a handwheel and graduated dial on the outboard end of the leadscrew. As I've previously remarked, I wish I'd put the money into a mini-mill fund.
Andy

Steve Claggett <790racer@...> wrote:
Have you seen this?

A friend has one, he is happy doing basic work, but he said it can
only handle small cuts or he has a chatter problem.

--- In 7x12minilathe@..., Richard Stevens <rtjstevens@...>
wrote:

Hi, I too have a Seig 7x12 and have been wondering about milling too,

The smaller lathe has a milling attachment one can buy - but it

won't fit

the 7x12 (I believe). Does anyone know of one that will fit? I do

have a DVD

from Chronos UK that shows a Taig/Peatol attachment (with a few

minor mods)

being able to fit the 7x10/12. Has anyone any experience of doing

this? If

so, what's the max capacity for milling?

I'm sure many will say - buy the Seig X-1/2/3 but Taig/Peatol also do a
standalone milling machine for approx ?550 (UK Pounds). Is this

better than

the equivalent mill from Seig?

Thanks

Richard (UK)

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--- In 7x12minilathe@..., "Steve Claggett" <790racer@...>
wrote:

Have you seen this?

A friend has one, he is happy doing basic work, but he said it can
only handle small cuts or he has a chatter problem.

Yep and the base price for it is about half that for a Micro-Mill on
sale. Micro-Mill is FAR more useful IMO.

I did think about this for awhile, but bit the bullet and got the
uMill instead and think I have a lot more capability with it over the
milling attachment.

YMMV :-).

Take care, Vikki.

G'day gavin Andy, Steve et al.
There is some good advice here, but! I don't have a mill and am not
seriously looking at present. What I have seen is that the micro
mills and mini mills are quite limited when it comes to drilling.
Larger diameter drills have morse taper shanks, also they are
generally. A micro/mini may not have enough Zaxis to allow large
drills and the drive may not have enough grunt.
Regarding lathe attachments, the standard attachment is a large
fraction of the price of a micro mill, as Andy says it does not seem
a wise investment. The exception may be the Taig attachment which
appears quite flexible (use wise) and better value for the money.
For me, if I had twice the money to invest and twice the space I
would have purchased a much larger lathe with a decent milling
attachment rather than two limited machines.
As an alternative an erzats milling attachment could be made with a
piece of steel or aluminium angle (not my comments on not using
Aluminum). Here is Oz you can get 80 x 80 x 6 Ali angle. A cheapy
drill press vice, the type with mounting slots along the sides, could
be fixed to the angle. Adjustment would not be easy but what can you
expect for AUD$30. (63mm drill vice AUD14 + AUD10 for Ali angle +
nuts and bolts = AUD30). There are other options which use the
compound slide to provide the Y axis adjustment (see Varmint Al's
site). Some of these options may be rough eg MS or Ali angle may not
be exactly 90deg. but if this is important we have files or a cutter
can be put in a 4 jaw chuck and a pass take over the surface.
Building an adaption of the Varmint Al approach is my next major
lathe project, in the mean time I have a cross drilling atachment
which needs the finishing touches.
Summary of my opinions, The micro & mini mills are limited but a
better investment than the purchased milling attachment.

One good turn deserves another.
Regards,
Ian

--- In 7x12minilathe@..., "Gavin McIntosh"
<gavinmc3@...> wrote:

A milling slide vice for lathe means you are limited by the lathe

speed.

You will not be able to mill with the smaller bits which will need

higher

speeds.

Gavin

From: andrew franks <andyf1108@...>
Reply-To: 7x12minilathe@...
To: 7x12minilathe@...
Subject: Re: [7x12minilathe] Re: Micromill vs Minimill .... Now

milling

attachment
Date: Sun, 25 Mar 2007 02:48:23 +0100 (BST)

I've got one of those vertical slides. It's fittted by removing

the

topslide and fastening it down to the "swivel disk" in the cross-

slide. It

would have been better if it had T-slots to fasten jobs (or a

vise) to the

front of it, rather than that big, overhanging, "toolpost"

arrangement.

Check if your cross-slide will wind far enough over to make full

use of its

2.7" (approx) width. To adjust the depth of cut with a milling

cutter in

the chuck (or collet), the carriage handwheel isn't nearly precise

enough;

you will need a handwheel and graduated dial on the outboard end

of the

leadscrew. As I've previously remarked, I wish I'd put the money

into a

mini-mill fund.
Andy

Steve Claggett <790racer@...> wrote:
Have you seen this?

ProductID=1681&category=1

A friend has one, he is happy doing basic work, but he said it can
only handle small cuts or he has a chatter problem.

--- In 7x12minilathe@..., Richard Stevens <rtjstevens@>
wrote:

Hi, I too have a Seig 7x12 and have been wondering about

milling too,

The smaller lathe has a milling attachment one can buy - but it

won't fit

the 7x12 (I believe). Does anyone know of one that will fit? I

do

have a DVD

from Chronos UK that shows a Taig/Peatol attachment (with a few

minor mods)

being able to fit the 7x10/12. Has anyone any experience of

doing

this? If

so, what's the max capacity for milling?

I'm sure many will say - buy the Seig X-1/2/3 but Taig/Peatol

also do a

standalone milling machine for approx ?550 (UK Pounds). Is this

better than

the equivalent mill from Seig?

Thanks

Richard (UK)

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Ian,

If you want to drill holes then a floor standing drill press is better and a good home shop should get one before the mill.
A X3 mill is big enough but an expensive hole drilling machine.

The micromill is suitable for small hobby stuff, model trains, cars, plane etc.
mini mill for the bigger hobbies, larger models and the X3 for motorbikes etc.

Gavin

From: "steam4ian" <fosterscons@...>
Reply-To: 7x12minilathe@...
To: 7x12minilathe@...
Subject: [7x12minilathe] Re: Micromill vs Minimill .... Now milling attachment
Date: Sun, 25 Mar 2007 21:54:08 -0000

G'day gavin Andy, Steve et al.
There is some good advice here, but! I don't have a mill and am not
seriously looking at present. What I have seen is that the micro
mills and mini mills are quite limited when it comes to drilling.
Larger diameter drills have morse taper shanks, also they are
generally. A micro/mini may not have enough Zaxis to allow large
drills and the drive may not have enough grunt.
Regarding lathe attachments, the standard attachment is a large
fraction of the price of a micro mill, as Andy says it does not seem
a wise investment. The exception may be the Taig attachment which
appears quite flexible (use wise) and better value for the money.
For me, if I had twice the money to invest and twice the space I
would have purchased a much larger lathe with a decent milling
attachment rather than two limited machines.
As an alternative an erzats milling attachment could be made with a
piece of steel or aluminium angle (not my comments on not using
Aluminum). Here is Oz you can get 80 x 80 x 6 Ali angle. A cheapy
drill press vice, the type with mounting slots along the sides, could
be fixed to the angle. Adjustment would not be easy but what can you
expect for AUD$30. (63mm drill vice AUD14 + AUD10 for Ali angle +
nuts and bolts = AUD30). There are other options which use the
compound slide to provide the Y axis adjustment (see Varmint Al's
site). Some of these options may be rough eg MS or Ali angle may not
be exactly 90deg. but if this is important we have files or a cutter
can be put in a 4 jaw chuck and a pass take over the surface.
Building an adaption of the Varmint Al approach is my next major
lathe project, in the mean time I have a cross drilling atachment
which needs the finishing touches.
Summary of my opinions, The micro & mini mills are limited but a
better investment than the purchased milling attachment.

One good turn deserves another.
Regards,
Ian

--- In 7x12minilathe@..., "Gavin McIntosh"
<gavinmc3@...> wrote:

A milling slide vice for lathe means you are limited by the lathe

speed.

You will not be able to mill with the smaller bits which will need

higher

speeds.

Gavin

From: andrew franks <andyf1108@...>
Reply-To: 7x12minilathe@...
To: 7x12minilathe@...
Subject: Re: [7x12minilathe] Re: Micromill vs Minimill .... Now

milling

attachment
Date: Sun, 25 Mar 2007 02:48:23 +0100 (BST)

I've got one of those vertical slides. It's fittted by removing

the

topslide and fastening it down to the "swivel disk" in the cross-

slide. It

would have been better if it had T-slots to fasten jobs (or a

vise) to the

front of it, rather than that big, overhanging, "toolpost"

arrangement.

Check if your cross-slide will wind far enough over to make full

use of its

2.7" (approx) width. To adjust the depth of cut with a milling

cutter in

the chuck (or collet), the carriage handwheel isn't nearly precise

enough;

you will need a handwheel and graduated dial on the outboard end

of the

leadscrew. As I've previously remarked, I wish I'd put the money

into a

mini-mill fund.
Andy

Steve Claggett <790racer@...> wrote:
Have you seen this?

ProductID=1681&category=1

A friend has one, he is happy doing basic work, but he said it can
only handle small cuts or he has a chatter problem.

--- In 7x12minilathe@..., Richard Stevens <rtjstevens@>
wrote:

Hi, I too have a Seig 7x12 and have been wondering about

milling too,

The smaller lathe has a milling attachment one can buy - but it

won't fit

the 7x12 (I believe). Does anyone know of one that will fit? I

do

have a DVD

from Chronos UK that shows a Taig/Peatol attachment (with a few

minor mods)

being able to fit the 7x10/12. Has anyone any experience of

doing

this? If

so, what's the max capacity for milling?

I'm sure many will say - buy the Seig X-1/2/3 but Taig/Peatol

also do a

standalone milling machine for approx ?550 (UK Pounds). Is this

better than

the equivalent mill from Seig?

Thanks

Richard (UK)

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--- In 7x12minilathe@..., "Gavin McIntosh" <gavinmc3@...>
wrote:

G'day Gavin,
No problem with the drill press, mine is bench mounted, I would get a
pedestal one if buying now.
Unless you pay a lot of money the average drill press is just that,
average, certainly not of tool room precision, doesn't even match the
minilathe out of the box. Try getting repeatable centering as you
change the work piece height to accommodate different drill lenghts
and then there is the run out and the slop in the spindle. Hence my
comments about the mill.
A precision drilling machine is virtually a mill without the
traversing table and some with tables are sold as drill/mill
combinations.
For cost comparison purposes in Oz; a pedestal drill (average
quality) sells for AUD350 and the Sieg milling attachment sells for
AUD220 total AUD570 The current eBay price for a X1 mill is AUD655,
only AUD85 more. (AUD1.0 = USD0.75 = S40P).
Interestingly a milling attachment suitale for a larger lathe over 9"
sells for about AUD250.
I agree a drill press and a decent grinder are essential home
workshop items, even ahead of a lathe,
I had better finish before we finish up OT.

One good turn deserves another.
Regards
Ian

If you want to drill holes then a floor standing drill press is

better and a

good home shop should get one before the mill.

Gavin