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Hello from Yellowknife
ve8rt
I'm new and here is my brief intro.
My name is Ron, I'm and amateur radio operator (VE8RT) in Yellowknife, NWT, Canada. Its been a few decades since I had a machine shop class in high school, but my employer has an antique lathe that I can use, and a newer vertical mill that they would also let me try. If I can do it safely, I'd like to catch up on forgotten skills, and learn a few new ones, to build some personal projects. To that end I'm looking for advice, including recommended reading or videos, for beginning metalworking. At this time I do not have the space at home for even my drill press, which is in the shed in the back. Perhaps if we move into a place with more space when I retire (a few years away) I'll set up a personal shop. Ron |
MIT has produced a pretty good set of videos to help prevent rust damage (from student blood) to their shop machines:
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R Thompson
Thanks Roy,
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and they're free too :-) I'll take advantage of these. Ron On Mon, 2012-11-12 at 01:46 +0000, Roy wrote:
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Tubal cain also has quite a few videos on youtube, covering mostly lathe work but I also think he does some milling videos too...
Actually there are quite a few people posting videos on youtube regarding this hobby :) google is my friend :D Good reading... umm the 'workshop practice series' of books I personally have found invaluable... Also websites / forums such as this one and perhaps home model machinist, etc I find handy for finding out different ways of doing things |
Nelson T.
A list of almost all of Tubal Cain's videos is here:
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To: 7x12minilathe@... Sent: Monday, November 12, 2012 8:49 AM Subject: [7x12minilathe] Re: Hello from Yellowknife ?
Tubal cain also has quite a few videos on youtube, covering mostly lathe work but I also think he does some milling videos too... Actually there are quite a few people posting videos on youtube regarding this hobby :) google is my friend :D Good reading... umm the 'workshop practice series' of books I personally have found invaluable... Also websites / forums such as this one and perhaps home model machinist, etc I find handy for finding out different ways of doing things |
R Thompson
Thanks, I could do a web search, but if you have it handy, where could I
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find the "Workshop Practices" series of books. Internet stuff is great, but I get neck and back problems if I'm in front of the screen in one position too long. Ron On Mon, 2012-11-12 at 13:49 +0000, iamcruzinincognito wrote:
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Lindsay books has a lot of useful shop stuff. I think they're scheduled to shut down sometime in the not too distant future.
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There are some public domain copies of a lot of the truly old stuff; links are in the "links" section of the group. Roy --- In 7x12minilathe@..., R Thompson <ve8rt@...> wrote:
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R Thompson
Thanks Roy,
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I was thinking of putting off my purchase for now, maybe I should re-think it. They have a few books of interest, I hope that someone will continue to offer them at a reasonable price. Sometimes resisting the impulse buying urge means a missed opportunity. Its hard to know what to do. While on the subject of impulse buying, BusyBee Tools, which has a store in Edmonton (cheaper shipping to Yellowknife from there) offers there home brand Craftex 7X12 lathe (which I think is a re-branded Homier) for the sale price of $699 Cdn.(regularly $899). Is that a good price, or could I do better if I wait? I don't have a place to put it now, so waiting is an option. Ron On Tue, 2012-11-13 at 02:03 +0000, Roy wrote:
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Michael Taglieri
Lindsay books has a lot of useful shop stuff. I think they're scheduled toThe last date to order from Lindsay is February 28th. Here's my post on the subject from last month. Mike Taglieri miket_nyc@... ----- Original Message ----- From: "Michael Taglieri" <miket_nyc@...> To: <miket_nyc@...> Sent: Friday, October 12, 2012 11:37 PM Subject: Lindsay Publications ending business Today I received the "LAST CATALOG" from Lindsay Publications ( |
Hi Ron,
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As I think I mentioned in one of my emails, Arc Euro Trade stocks the whole Workshop Practice series, at about half the price of Amazon in the US. Arc Euro's shipping charges are reasonable, so I doubt if shipping across the Atlantic would tip the scales in favour of Amazon. Some of the books in the series are more useful than others; I got one on motors in the workshop, but I think it was written some time ago. Three other free sources of information: User's manual written in English rather than Chinglish: < > A guide to preparing the lathe once you get it: < > A book for Boxford (cloned South Bend) users, which contains a good deal of general advice on lathe operations, tools etc not specific to Boxfords: < > Andy --- In 7x12minilathe@..., R Thompson <ve8rt@...> wrote:
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R Thompson
Thanks for those titles too Andy. Last night I put an order in to
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Lindsay Books. Arceurotrade is next on the things to do list. I visited the Busybeetools website and was looking over their Craftex CX04 lathe, which apparently is a re-branded Homier 7X12 lathe. They have it on sale at the moment for $699 (reg. $899) and I was wondering if I should impulse buy that while it is on sale and stash it away until I have room for it. My preference is to buy North American or European made products, so I've been looking at the Taig machines too. Well I won't be buying anything much if I don't get out the door and get to work. Ron On Tue, 2012-11-13 at 10:27 +0000, andyf1108 wrote:
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If you buy it now and stash it away, you'll make room for it a lot
sooner than first making room and then buying it. On Tue, 13 Nov 2012, R Thompson wrote: Thanks for those titles too Andy. Last night I put an order in toVince. -- Michigan VHF Corp. The Foggy Mist Emporium |
MERTON B BAKER
FWIW, I paid $300 US + shipping for my Homier 7x12, but it was a long time
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ago when the dollar hadn't shrunk nearly as much as it has now. Mert -----Original Message-----
From: 7x12minilathe@... [mailto:7x12minilathe@...]On Behalf Of R Thompson Sent: Tuesday, November 13, 2012 9:26 AM To: 7x12minilathe@... Subject: Re: [7x12minilathe] Re: Hello from Yellowknife Thanks for those titles too Andy. Last night I put an order in to Lindsay Books. Arceurotrade is next on the things to do list. I visited the Busybeetools website and was looking over their Craftex CX04 lathe, which apparently is a re-branded Homier 7X12 lathe. They have it on sale at the moment for $699 (reg. $899) and I was wondering if I should impulse buy that while it is on sale and stash it away until I have room for it. My preference is to buy North American or European made products, so I've been looking at the Taig machines too. Well I won't be buying anything much if I don't get out the door and get to work. Ron On Tue, 2012-11-13 at 10:27 +0000, andyf1108 wrote:
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MERTON B BAKER
Further, you'll find the Taig is both more and less versatile, and a LOT
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smaller, even though its motor is a LOT more powerful. Mert -----Original Message-----
From: 7x12minilathe@... [mailto:7x12minilathe@...]On Behalf Of R Thompson Sent: Tuesday, November 13, 2012 9:26 AM To: 7x12minilathe@... Subject: Re: [7x12minilathe] Re: Hello from Yellowknife Thanks for those titles too Andy. Last night I put an order in to Lindsay Books. Arceurotrade is next on the things to do list. I visited the Busybeetools website and was looking over their Craftex CX04 lathe, which apparently is a re-branded Homier 7X12 lathe. They have it on sale at the moment for $699 (reg. $899) and I was wondering if I should impulse buy that while it is on sale and stash it away until I have room for it. My preference is to buy North American or European made products, so I've been looking at the Taig machines too. Well I won't be buying anything much if I don't get out the door and get to work. Ron On Tue, 2012-11-13 at 10:27 +0000, andyf1108 wrote:
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Both the Craftex and Homier lathes are re-branded Siegs from China. The Sieg 7x lathes constitute the majority of the mini-lathes in the US and Canada, I think. There are a few from the Real Bull factory, sold by Big Dog in the US (this is beginning to sound like a farmyard). RBs differ in detail from Siegs, and have a few minor improvements in the way of oil ports and a fairy standard US speed control board rather than a Chinese one. Most of the important bits are interchangeable. Before plumping for a Taig (or a Sherline - another you might consider), check if it is as versatile as the Chinese offerings, and will do screwcutting, including LH threads, and pliain turning towards the tailstock, all of which require that the leadscrew be reversed while the spindle is still running forward. Also check if the carriage can be unlocked from the leadscrew so it can be run quickly along the bed using an apron handwheel working a rack and pinion. I simply don't know if Taigs and Sherlines offer these features. Andy --- In 7x12minilathe@..., R Thompson <ve8rt@...> wrote:
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MERTON B BAKER
In reply to the question about the Sherlines. They suffer from the same
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reversible leadscrew and the necessity to crank the carriage back & forth with the LS. I assume this is true of the Taigs, but as I don't have one, I don't know. Mert -----Original Message-----
From: 7x12minilathe@... [mailto:7x12minilathe@...]On Behalf Of andyf1108 Sent: Tuesday, November 13, 2012 11:28 AM To: 7x12minilathe@... Subject: [7x12minilathe] Re: Hello from Yellowknife Hi Ron, Both the Craftex and Homier lathes are re-branded Siegs from China. The Sieg 7x lathes constitute the majority of the mini-lathes in the US and Canada, I think. There are a few from the Real Bull factory, sold by Big Dog in the US (this is beginning to sound like a farmyard). RBs differ in detail from Siegs, and have a few minor improvements in the way of oil ports and a fairy standard US speed control board rather than a Chinese one. Most of the important bits are interchangeable. Before plumping for a Taig (or a Sherline - another you might consider), check if it is as versatile as the Chinese offerings, and will do screwcutting, including LH threads, and pliain turning towards the tailstock, all of which require that the leadscrew be reversed while the spindle is still running forward. Also check if the carriage can be unlocked from the leadscrew so it can be run quickly along the bed using an apron handwheel working a rack and pinion. I simply don't know if Taigs and Sherlines offer these features. Andy --- In 7x12minilathe@..., R Thompson <ve8rt@...> wrote:
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¿ªÔÆÌåÓýMost stock Taigs only have a rack/pinion ... Some now come from the factory with a LS too....Added a LS to mine: MERTON B BAKER wrote: In reply to the question about the Sherlines. They suffer from the same reversible leadscrew and the necessity to crank the carriage back & forth with the LS. I assume this is true of the Taigs, but as I don't have one, I don't know. Mert -----Original Message----- From: 7x12minilathe@... [mailto:7x12minilathe@...]On Behalf Of andyf1108 Sent: Tuesday, November 13, 2012 11:28 AM To: 7x12minilathe@... Subject: [7x12minilathe] Re: Hello from Yellowknife Hi Ron, Both the Craftex and Homier lathes are re-branded Siegs from China. The Sieg 7x lathes constitute the majority of the mini-lathes in the US and Canada, I think. There are a few from the Real Bull factory, sold by Big Dog in the US (this is beginning to sound like a farmyard). RBs differ in detail from Siegs, and have a few minor improvements in the way of oil ports and a fairy standard US speed control board rather than a Chinese one. Most of the important bits are interchangeable. Before plumping for a Taig (or a Sherline - another you might consider), check if it is as versatile as the Chinese offerings, and will do screwcutting, including LH threads, and pliain turning towards the tailstock, all of which require that the leadscrew be reversed while the spindle is still running forward. Also check if the carriage can be unlocked from the leadscrew so it can be run quickly along the bed using an apron handwheel working a rack and pinion. I simply don't know if Taigs and Sherlines offer these features. Andy --- In 7x12minilathe@..., R Thompson wrote:Thanks for those titles too Andy. Last night I put an order in to Lindsay Books. Arceurotrade is next on the things to do list. I visited the Busybeetools website and was looking over their Craftex CX04 lathe, which apparently is a re-branded Homier 7X12 lathe. They have it on sale at the moment for $699 (reg. $899) and I was wondering if I should impulse buy that while it is on sale and stash it away until I have room for it. My preference is to buy North American or European made products, so I've been looking at the Taig machines too. Well I won't be buying anything much if I don't get out the door and get to work. Ron------------------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Links ------------------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: <*> Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional <*> To change settings online go to: (Yahoo! ID required) <*> To change settings via email: 7x12minilathe-digest@... 7x12minilathe-fullfeatured@... <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: 7x12minilathe-unsubscribe@... <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: |
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I have found the best / cheapest place to get the Workshop
Practice Series to be ??they post free world wide and were WAY cheaper than any where I
tried locally, i.e. here in OZ.?
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John Bernoth <jbernoth1@...> wrote: Hi folk, I have found the best / cheapest place to get the Workshop PracticeThanks for that, they are indeed very good prices. -- Stuart |
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I bought the Busy Bee CX704 lathe and the DRO kit here in Toronto on sale at $958 CDN tax included. I have it home and cleaned up but have not yet installed the DRO kit. I put a large bow on it to remind my wife that it is a Christmas present from her and not a crazy impulse purchase on my part. It looks like a fairly easy learning curve headed my way as I transition from my elderly Unimat DB200 that has served for 45 years or so and will continue to do so in a reduced role. I have made a spot for it to reside in my little shop but lack the muscle to get it there on my own so I am keeping an eye out for neighbours that may be attracted to short lived employment in the moving business with a tot or two of Scotch. Don Hamilton --------------------------------------------------- --- In 7x12minilathe@..., R Thompson <ve8rt@...> wrote:
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