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Hello from Yellowknife


ve8rt
 

I'm new and here is my brief intro.
My name is Ron, I'm and amateur radio operator (VE8RT) in Yellowknife, NWT, Canada. Its been a few decades since I had a machine shop class in high school, but my employer has an antique lathe that I can use, and a newer vertical mill that they would also let me try.

If I can do it safely, I'd like to catch up on forgotten skills, and learn a few new ones, to build some personal projects. To that end I'm looking for advice, including recommended reading or videos, for beginning metalworking.

At this time I do not have the space at home for even my drill press, which is in the shed in the back. Perhaps if we move into a place with more space when I retire (a few years away) I'll set up a personal shop.

Ron


 

MIT has produced a pretty good set of videos to help prevent rust damage (from student blood) to their shop machines:



Roy

--- In 7x12minilathe@..., "ve8rt" <ve8rt@...> wrote:

I'm new and here is my brief intro.
My name is Ron, I'm and amateur radio operator (VE8RT) in Yellowknife, NWT, Canada. Its been a few decades since I had a machine shop class in high school, but my employer has an antique lathe that I can use, and a newer vertical mill that they would also let me try.

If I can do it safely, I'd like to catch up on forgotten skills, and learn a few new ones, to build some personal projects. To that end I'm looking for advice, including recommended reading or videos, for beginning metalworking.

At this time I do not have the space at home for even my drill press, which is in the shed in the back. Perhaps if we move into a place with more space when I retire (a few years away) I'll set up a personal shop.

Ron


R Thompson
 

Thanks Roy,

and they're free too :-) I'll take advantage of these.

Ron

On Mon, 2012-11-12 at 01:46 +0000, Roy wrote:

MIT has produced a pretty good set of videos to help prevent rust
damage (from student blood) to their shop machines:



Roy

--- In 7x12minilathe@..., "ve8rt" <ve8rt@...> wrote:

I'm new and here is my brief intro.
My name is Ron, I'm and amateur radio operator (VE8RT) in
Yellowknife, NWT, Canada. Its been a few decades since I had a machine
shop class in high school, but my employer has an antique lathe that I
can use, and a newer vertical mill that they would also let me try.

If I can do it safely, I'd like to catch up on forgotten skills, and
learn a few new ones, to build some personal projects. To that end I'm
looking for advice, including recommended reading or videos, for
beginning metalworking.

At this time I do not have the space at home for even my drill
press, which is in the shed in the back. Perhaps if we move into a
place with more space when I retire (a few years away) I'll set up a
personal shop.

Ron




 

Tubal cain also has quite a few videos on youtube, covering mostly lathe work but I also think he does some milling videos too...

Actually there are quite a few people posting videos on youtube regarding this hobby :) google is my friend :D


Good reading... umm the 'workshop practice series' of books I personally have found invaluable...

Also websites / forums such as this one and perhaps home model machinist, etc I find handy for finding out different ways of doing things


Nelson T.
 

A list of almost all of Tubal Cain's videos is here:
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From: iamcruzinincognito
To: 7x12minilathe@...
Sent: Monday, November 12, 2012 8:49 AM
Subject: [7x12minilathe] Re: Hello from Yellowknife
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Tubal cain also has quite a few videos on youtube, covering mostly lathe work but I also think he does some milling videos too...

Actually there are quite a few people posting videos on youtube regarding this hobby :) google is my friend :D

Good reading... umm the 'workshop practice series' of books I personally have found invaluable...

Also websites / forums such as this one and perhaps home model machinist, etc I find handy for finding out different ways of doing things


R Thompson
 

Thanks, I could do a web search, but if you have it handy, where could I
find the "Workshop Practices" series of books.

Internet stuff is great, but I get neck and back problems if I'm in
front of the screen in one position too long.

Ron

On Mon, 2012-11-12 at 13:49 +0000, iamcruzinincognito wrote:

Tubal cain also has quite a few videos on youtube, covering mostly
lathe work but I also think he does some milling videos too...

Actually there are quite a few people posting videos on youtube
regarding this hobby :) google is my friend :D

Good reading... umm the 'workshop practice series' of books I
personally have found invaluable...

Also websites / forums such as this one and perhaps home model
machinist, etc I find handy for finding out different ways of doing
things





 

Lindsay books has a lot of useful shop stuff. I think they're scheduled to shut down sometime in the not too distant future.



There are some public domain copies of a lot of the truly old stuff; links are in the "links" section of the group.

Roy

--- In 7x12minilathe@..., R Thompson <ve8rt@...> wrote:

Thanks, I could do a web search, but if you have it handy, where could I
find the "Workshop Practices" series of books.

Internet stuff is great, but I get neck and back problems if I'm in
front of the screen in one position too long.

Ron

On Mon, 2012-11-12 at 13:49 +0000, iamcruzinincognito wrote:

Tubal cain also has quite a few videos on youtube, covering mostly
lathe work but I also think he does some milling videos too...

Actually there are quite a few people posting videos on youtube
regarding this hobby :) google is my friend :D

Good reading... umm the 'workshop practice series' of books I
personally have found invaluable...

Also websites / forums such as this one and perhaps home model
machinist, etc I find handy for finding out different ways of doing
things





R Thompson
 

Thanks Roy,

I was thinking of putting off my purchase for now, maybe I should
re-think it. They have a few books of interest, I hope that someone
will continue to offer them at a reasonable price.

Sometimes resisting the impulse buying urge means a missed
opportunity. Its hard to know what to do.

While on the subject of impulse buying, BusyBee Tools, which has a
store in Edmonton (cheaper shipping to Yellowknife from there) offers
there home brand Craftex 7X12 lathe (which I think is a re-branded
Homier) for the sale price of $699 Cdn.(regularly $899). Is that a good
price, or could I do better if I wait? I don't have a place to put it
now, so waiting is an option.

Ron

On Tue, 2012-11-13 at 02:03 +0000, Roy wrote:

Lindsay books has a lot of useful shop stuff. I think they're
scheduled to shut down sometime in the not too distant future.



There are some public domain copies of a lot of the truly old stuff;
links are in the "links" section of the group.

Roy

--- In 7x12minilathe@..., R Thompson <ve8rt@...> wrote:

Thanks, I could do a web search, but if you have it handy, where
could I
find the "Workshop Practices" series of books.

Internet stuff is great, but I get neck and back problems if I'm in
front of the screen in one position too long.

Ron

On Mon, 2012-11-12 at 13:49 +0000, iamcruzinincognito wrote:

Tubal cain also has quite a few videos on youtube, covering mostly
lathe work but I also think he does some milling videos too...

Actually there are quite a few people posting videos on youtube
regarding this hobby :) google is my friend :D

Good reading... umm the 'workshop practice series' of books I
personally have found invaluable...

Also websites / forums such as this one and perhaps home model
machinist, etc I find handy for finding out different ways of
doing
things








Michael Taglieri
 

Lindsay books has a lot of useful shop stuff. I think they're scheduled to
shut down sometime in the not too distant future.

The last date to order from Lindsay is February 28th. Here's my post on the
subject from last month.

Mike Taglieri miket_nyc@...

----- Original Message -----
From: "Michael Taglieri" <miket_nyc@...>
To: <miket_nyc@...>
Sent: Friday, October 12, 2012 11:37 PM
Subject: Lindsay Publications ending business


Today I received the "LAST CATALOG" from Lindsay Publications (
www.lindsaybks.com ). As many in this group know, Lindsay reprints old
technical books of all kinds such as "How to Run a Lathe," sells new tech
books such as the Dave Gingery series, and has gathered together many
periodical articles including my all-time favorite series, "Echoes from
the
Oil Country."

Now, after 30 years, the owner of Lindsay is retiring and closing the
company down. They are still very much in business in the catalog and
online, but the catalog warns:

"Your order must be here by February 28, 2013. No orders will be
accepted after that date.
So if there are books you need, get off your butt and take care of
business now. And you
should get your order here sooner rather than later if possible. Some
books in short supply
will not be reprinted."

So consider yourself warned. (And if you've never heard of Lindsay
Publications, take a look at their website before it's too late. You may
want to place a large order).

Mike Taglieri miket_nyc@...


 

Hi Ron,

As I think I mentioned in one of my emails, Arc Euro Trade stocks the whole Workshop Practice series, at about half the price of Amazon in the US. Arc Euro's shipping charges are reasonable, so I doubt if shipping across the Atlantic would tip the scales in favour of Amazon.

Some of the books in the series are more useful than others; I got one on motors in the workshop, but I think it was written some time ago.

Three other free sources of information:
User's manual written in English rather than Chinglish:
< >

A guide to preparing the lathe once you get it:
< >

A book for Boxford (cloned South Bend) users, which contains a good deal of general advice on lathe operations, tools etc not specific to Boxfords:
< >

Andy

--- In 7x12minilathe@..., R Thompson <ve8rt@...> wrote:

Thanks, I could do a web search, but if you have it handy, where could I
find the "Workshop Practices" series of books.

Internet stuff is great, but I get neck and back problems if I'm in
front of the screen in one position too long.

Ron


R Thompson
 

Thanks for those titles too Andy. Last night I put an order in to
Lindsay Books. Arceurotrade is next on the things to do list.

I visited the Busybeetools website and was looking over their Craftex
CX04 lathe, which apparently is a re-branded Homier 7X12 lathe. They
have it on sale at the moment for $699 (reg. $899) and I was wondering
if I should impulse buy that while it is on sale and stash it away until
I have room for it.

My preference is to buy North American or European made products, so
I've been looking at the Taig machines too.

Well I won't be buying anything much if I don't get out the door and get
to work.

Ron

On Tue, 2012-11-13 at 10:27 +0000, andyf1108 wrote:

Hi Ron,

As I think I mentioned in one of my emails, Arc Euro Trade stocks the
whole Workshop Practice series, at about half the price of Amazon in
the US. Arc Euro's shipping charges are reasonable, so I doubt if
shipping across the Atlantic would tip the scales in favour of
Amazon.

Some of the books in the series are more useful than others; I got one
on motors in the workshop, but I think it was written some time ago.

Three other free sources of information:
User's manual written in English rather than Chinglish:
< >

A guide to preparing the lathe once you get it:
<
20Dismantling%20and%20Reassembly%20Guide.pdf >

A book for Boxford (cloned South Bend) users, which contains a good
deal of general advice on lathe operations, tools etc not specific to
Boxfords:
< >

Andy

--- In 7x12minilathe@..., R Thompson <ve8rt@...> wrote:

Thanks, I could do a web search, but if you have it handy, where
could I
find the "Workshop Practices" series of books.

Internet stuff is great, but I get neck and back problems if I'm in
front of the screen in one position too long.

Ron




 

If you buy it now and stash it away, you'll make room for it a lot
sooner than first making room and then buying it.



On Tue, 13 Nov 2012, R Thompson wrote:

Thanks for those titles too Andy. Last night I put an order in to
Lindsay Books. Arceurotrade is next on the things to do list.

I visited the Busybeetools website and was looking over their Craftex
CX04 lathe, which apparently is a re-branded Homier 7X12 lathe. They
have it on sale at the moment for $699 (reg. $899) and I was wondering
if I should impulse buy that while it is on sale and stash it away until
I have room for it.

My preference is to buy North American or European made products, so
I've been looking at the Taig machines too.

Well I won't be buying anything much if I don't get out the door and get
to work.

Ron
Vince.
--
Michigan VHF Corp.
The Foggy Mist Emporium


MERTON B BAKER
 

FWIW, I paid $300 US + shipping for my Homier 7x12, but it was a long time
ago when the dollar hadn't shrunk nearly as much as it has now.

Mert

-----Original Message-----
From: 7x12minilathe@...
[mailto:7x12minilathe@...]On Behalf Of R Thompson
Sent: Tuesday, November 13, 2012 9:26 AM
To: 7x12minilathe@...
Subject: Re: [7x12minilathe] Re: Hello from Yellowknife


Thanks for those titles too Andy. Last night I put an order in to
Lindsay Books. Arceurotrade is next on the things to do list.

I visited the Busybeetools website and was looking over their Craftex
CX04 lathe, which apparently is a re-branded Homier 7X12 lathe. They
have it on sale at the moment for $699 (reg. $899) and I was wondering
if I should impulse buy that while it is on sale and stash it away until
I have room for it.

My preference is to buy North American or European made products, so
I've been looking at the Taig machines too.

Well I won't be buying anything much if I don't get out the door and get
to work.

Ron

On Tue, 2012-11-13 at 10:27 +0000, andyf1108 wrote:

Hi Ron,

As I think I mentioned in one of my emails, Arc Euro Trade stocks the
whole Workshop Practice series, at about half the price of Amazon in
the US. Arc Euro's shipping charges are reasonable, so I doubt if
shipping across the Atlantic would tip the scales in favour of
Amazon.

Some of the books in the series are more useful than others; I got one
on motors in the workshop, but I think it was written some time ago.

Three other free sources of information:
User's manual written in English rather than Chinglish:
< >

A guide to preparing the lathe once you get it:
<
20Dismantling%20and%20Reassembly%20Guide.pdf >

A book for Boxford (cloned South Bend) users, which contains a good
deal of general advice on lathe operations, tools etc not specific to
Boxfords:
< >

Andy

--- In 7x12minilathe@..., R Thompson <ve8rt@...> wrote:

Thanks, I could do a web search, but if you have it handy, where
could I
find the "Workshop Practices" series of books.

Internet stuff is great, but I get neck and back problems if I'm in
front of the screen in one position too long.

Ron






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MERTON B BAKER
 

Further, you'll find the Taig is both more and less versatile, and a LOT
smaller, even though its motor is a LOT more powerful.

Mert

-----Original Message-----
From: 7x12minilathe@...
[mailto:7x12minilathe@...]On Behalf Of R Thompson
Sent: Tuesday, November 13, 2012 9:26 AM
To: 7x12minilathe@...
Subject: Re: [7x12minilathe] Re: Hello from Yellowknife


Thanks for those titles too Andy. Last night I put an order in to
Lindsay Books. Arceurotrade is next on the things to do list.

I visited the Busybeetools website and was looking over their Craftex
CX04 lathe, which apparently is a re-branded Homier 7X12 lathe. They
have it on sale at the moment for $699 (reg. $899) and I was wondering
if I should impulse buy that while it is on sale and stash it away until
I have room for it.

My preference is to buy North American or European made products, so
I've been looking at the Taig machines too.

Well I won't be buying anything much if I don't get out the door and get
to work.

Ron

On Tue, 2012-11-13 at 10:27 +0000, andyf1108 wrote:

Hi Ron,

As I think I mentioned in one of my emails, Arc Euro Trade stocks the
whole Workshop Practice series, at about half the price of Amazon in
the US. Arc Euro's shipping charges are reasonable, so I doubt if
shipping across the Atlantic would tip the scales in favour of
Amazon.

Some of the books in the series are more useful than others; I got one
on motors in the workshop, but I think it was written some time ago.

Three other free sources of information:
User's manual written in English rather than Chinglish:
< >

A guide to preparing the lathe once you get it:
<
20Dismantling%20and%20Reassembly%20Guide.pdf >

A book for Boxford (cloned South Bend) users, which contains a good
deal of general advice on lathe operations, tools etc not specific to
Boxfords:
< >

Andy


 

Hi Ron,



Both the Craftex and Homier lathes are re-branded Siegs from China. The Sieg 7x lathes constitute the majority of the mini-lathes in the US and Canada, I think. There are a few from the Real Bull factory, sold by Big Dog in the US (this is beginning to sound like a farmyard). RBs differ in detail from Siegs, and have a few minor improvements in the way of oil ports and a fairy standard US speed control board rather than a Chinese one. Most of the important bits are interchangeable.



Before plumping for a Taig (or a Sherline - another you might consider), check if it is as versatile as the Chinese offerings, and will do screwcutting, including LH threads, and pliain turning towards the tailstock, all of which require that the leadscrew be reversed while the spindle is still running forward. Also check if the carriage can be unlocked from the leadscrew so it can be run quickly along the bed using an apron handwheel working a rack and pinion. I simply don't know if Taigs and Sherlines offer these features.



Andy

--- In 7x12minilathe@..., R Thompson <ve8rt@...> wrote:

Thanks for those titles too Andy. Last night I put an order in to
Lindsay Books. Arceurotrade is next on the things to do list.

I visited the Busybeetools website and was looking over their Craftex
CX04 lathe, which apparently is a re-branded Homier 7X12 lathe. They
have it on sale at the moment for $699 (reg. $899) and I was wondering
if I should impulse buy that while it is on sale and stash it away until
I have room for it.

My preference is to buy North American or European made products, so
I've been looking at the Taig machines too.

Well I won't be buying anything much if I don't get out the door and get
to work.

Ron


MERTON B BAKER
 

In reply to the question about the Sherlines. They suffer from the same
reversible leadscrew and the necessity to crank the carriage back & forth
with the LS. I assume this is true of the Taigs, but as I don't have one, I
don't know.

Mert

-----Original Message-----
From: 7x12minilathe@...
[mailto:7x12minilathe@...]On Behalf Of andyf1108
Sent: Tuesday, November 13, 2012 11:28 AM
To: 7x12minilathe@...
Subject: [7x12minilathe] Re: Hello from Yellowknife


Hi Ron,



Both the Craftex and Homier lathes are re-branded Siegs from China. The Sieg
7x lathes constitute the majority of the mini-lathes in the US and Canada, I
think. There are a few from the Real Bull factory, sold by Big Dog in the US
(this is beginning to sound like a farmyard). RBs differ in detail from
Siegs, and have a few minor improvements in the way of oil ports and a fairy
standard US speed control board rather than a Chinese one. Most of the
important bits are interchangeable.



Before plumping for a Taig (or a Sherline - another you might consider),
check if it is as versatile as the Chinese offerings, and will do
screwcutting, including LH threads, and pliain turning towards the
tailstock, all of which require that the leadscrew be reversed while the
spindle is still running forward. Also check if the carriage can be unlocked
from the leadscrew so it can be run quickly along the bed using an apron
handwheel working a rack and pinion. I simply don't know if Taigs and
Sherlines offer these features.



Andy



--- In 7x12minilathe@..., R Thompson <ve8rt@...> wrote:

Thanks for those titles too Andy. Last night I put an order in to
Lindsay Books. Arceurotrade is next on the things to do list.

I visited the Busybeetools website and was looking over their Craftex
CX04 lathe, which apparently is a re-branded Homier 7X12 lathe. They
have it on sale at the moment for $699 (reg. $899) and I was wondering
if I should impulse buy that while it is on sale and stash it away until
I have room for it.

My preference is to buy North American or European made products, so
I've been looking at the Taig machines too.

Well I won't be buying anything much if I don't get out the door and get
to work.

Ron



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Most stock Taigs only have a rack/pinion ... Some now come from the factory with a LS too....


Added a LS to mine:







MERTON B BAKER wrote:

In reply to the question about the Sherlines.  They suffer from the same
reversible leadscrew and the necessity to crank the carriage back & forth
with the LS.  I assume this is true of the Taigs, but as I don't have one, I
don't know.

Mert



-----Original Message-----
From: 7x12minilathe@...
[mailto:7x12minilathe@...]On Behalf Of andyf1108
Sent: Tuesday, November 13, 2012 11:28 AM
To: 7x12minilathe@...
Subject: [7x12minilathe] Re: Hello from Yellowknife


Hi Ron,



Both the Craftex and Homier lathes are re-branded Siegs from China. The Sieg
7x lathes constitute the majority of the mini-lathes in the US and Canada, I
think. There are a few from the Real Bull factory, sold by Big Dog in the US
(this is beginning to sound like a farmyard). RBs differ in detail from
Siegs, and have a few minor improvements in the way of oil ports and a fairy
standard US speed control board rather than a Chinese one. Most of the
important bits are interchangeable.



Before plumping for a Taig (or a Sherline - another you might consider),
check if it is as versatile as the Chinese offerings, and will do
screwcutting, including LH threads, and pliain turning towards the
tailstock, all of which require that the leadscrew be reversed while the
spindle is still running forward. Also check if the carriage can be unlocked
from the leadscrew so it can be run quickly along the bed using an apron
handwheel working a rack and pinion.  I simply don't know if Taigs and
Sherlines offer these features.



Andy



--- In 7x12minilathe@..., R Thompson  wrote:
  
Thanks for those titles too Andy.  Last night I put an order in to
Lindsay Books.  Arceurotrade is next on the things to do list.

I visited the Busybeetools website and was looking over their Craftex
CX04 lathe, which apparently is a re-branded Homier 7X12 lathe.  They
have it on sale at the moment for $699 (reg. $899) and I was wondering
if I should impulse buy that while it is on sale and stash it away until
I have room for it.

My preference is to buy North American or European made products, so
I've been looking at the Taig machines too.

Well I won't be buying anything much if I don't get out the door and get
to work.

        Ron

    



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Hi folk,
?
I have found the best / cheapest place to get the Workshop Practice Series to be ??they post free world wide and were WAY cheaper than any where I tried locally, i.e. here in OZ.?
Regards,
?
John B?


lists
 

In article <F7049777D8D347CCA1A729102B3B14FE@johncb8ea879a5>,
John Bernoth <jbernoth1@...> wrote:
Hi folk,
I have found the best / cheapest place to get the Workshop Practice
Series to be www.bookdepository.co.uk they post free world wide and
were WAY cheaper than any where I tried locally, i.e. here in OZ.
Regards,
Thanks for that, they are indeed very good prices.

--
Stuart


 

Ron
I bought the Busy Bee CX704 lathe and the DRO kit here in Toronto on sale at $958 CDN tax included. I have it home and cleaned up but have not yet installed the DRO kit. I put a large bow on it to remind my wife that it is a Christmas present from her and not a crazy impulse purchase on my part.

It looks like a fairly easy learning curve headed my way as I transition from my elderly Unimat DB200 that has served for 45 years or so and will continue to do so in a reduced role.

I have made a spot for it to reside in my little shop but lack the muscle to get it there on my own so I am keeping an eye out for neighbours that may be attracted to short lived employment in the moving business with a tot or two of Scotch.

Don Hamilton


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--- In 7x12minilathe@..., R Thompson <ve8rt@...> wrote:

Thanks Roy,

I was thinking of putting off my purchase for now, maybe I should
re-think it. They have a few books of interest, I hope that someone
will continue to offer them at a reasonable price.

Sometimes resisting the impulse buying urge means a missed
opportunity. Its hard to know what to do.

While on the subject of impulse buying, BusyBee Tools, which has a
store in Edmonton (cheaper shipping to Yellowknife from there) > > >