tailstock Cam lock kit and F/O/R switch change


 

HI All!

I've been making some parts lately and have had some luck selling them as well. Enough to buy some new hop-ups for my 7x12 Cummings lathe :-)

My F/O/R switch is acting up, and I'm thinking that I'd rather have a rotary type switch instead of a toggle, like the one that's on the micromark 7x14... anyone make this swap? I'll probably just wind up going with a stock replacement, unless the swap is easy?

I'm also thinking about a Tailstock cam lock kit. I see LMS has them for $30... Does the cam lock kit rally get the tailstock clamped down tight enough so it doesn't move? will installing this kit throw off he alignment of the Tailstock? My TS is perfectly aligned right now, I really dont' want to go through that trouble again of lining it back up... or worse I really don't want it to be thrown out of alignment higher or lower :-(

thanks!

Mike B


 

Can't help with the switch but might help with the tailstock. I did not use a camlock, instead I made another nut higher than the original and drilled and tapped in several places for a lever handle. I made the nut about 1" high I think,I'm not near the shop to look at it.Then tightened the nut and marked it for where I wanted to have the handle.I drilled and tapped for 1/4-20 thread at my mark and also another at the left and right of the first tapped hole. The second and third tapped holes were for just in case I might need them to tighten or loosen the tail stock.This worked well for me so I did the same thing on my larger lathe,10x22.You won't need to touch the tail stock ,just make the tall nut and lever handle. You can use round stock or hex stock which I used.Round stock would need at least two flats milled so a wrench can be used if needed.I can only think of a couple of times I needed to use the wrench to tighten the tail stock. Both times I was drilling a large bore in aluminum bronze and the tail stock slipped a bit.
mike


From: Exibar
To: 7x12minilathe@...
Sent: Sunday, February 3, 2013 12:05 AM
Subject: [7x12minilathe] tailstock Cam lock kit and F/O/R switch change

HI All!
I've been making some parts lately and have had some luck selling them as well. Enough to buy some new hop-ups for my 7x12 Cummings lathe :-)
My F/O/R switch is acting up, and I'm thinking that I'd rather have a rotary type switch instead of a toggle, like the one that's on the micromark 7x14... anyone make this swap? I'll probably just wind up going with a stock replacement, unless the swap is easy?
I'm also thinking about a Tailstock cam lock kit. I see LMS has them for $30... Does the cam lock kit rally get the tailstock clamped down tight enough so it doesn't move? will installing this kit throw off he alignment of the Tailstock? My TS is perfectly aligned right now, I really dont' want to go through that trouble again of lining it back up... or worse I really don't want it to be thrown out of alignment higher or lower :-(
thanks!
Mike B



 

Mike wrote....... I did not use a camlock, instead I made another nut higher than the original and drilled and tapped in several places for a lever handle.......
I didn't make a camlock. I used a ring spanner, the type with an angle to the handle for hand clearance. Used upside down, it does the job perfectly, clearing the compound slide and staying in place.
Cheers.
Ellis


MERTON B BAKER
 

Swapping switches is a simple soldering job if you know how to work on circuit boards.� The TS camlocksI made for my 7x lathes work very well, and I'm sure the LMS ones will, too.� LMS is a very reliable bunch.
Mert

-----Original Message-----
From: 7x12minilathe@... [mailto:7x12minilathe@...]On Behalf Of Exibar
Sent: Sunday, February 03, 2013 12:05 AM
To: 7x12minilathe@...
Subject: [7x12minilathe] tailstock Cam lock kit and F/O/R switch change

HI All!

������ I've been making some parts lately and have had some luck selling them as well.�� Enough to buy some new hop-ups for my 7x12 Cummings lathe :-)

My F/O/R switch is acting up, and I'm thinking that I'd rather have a rotary type switch instead of a toggle, like the one that's on the micromark 7x14... anyone make this swap?���� I'll probably just wind up going with a stock replacement, unless the swap is easy?

I'm also thinking about a Tailstock cam lock kit.�� I see LMS has them for $30...�� Does the cam lock kit rally get the tailstock clamped down tight enough so it doesn't move?�� will installing this kit throw off he alignment of the Tailstock?�� My TS is perfectly aligned right now, I really dont' want to go through that trouble again of lining it back up... or worse I really don't want it to be thrown out of alignment higher or lower :-(

thanks!

�� Mike B


 

Mike;
Before you install a new switch,try spraying it out from the bottom,with plastic safe elec.cleaner.
Put a towell over everything else to prevent overspray.
There is usually enough room on the bottom ,around where the tabs are bent over the pc board type insulating material,where the connectors are,to get some spray in.
Mine was full of the same red grease the lathe was packed in.
When It got cool out in the shop,it would quit working till the shop got to 70 deg.
If it doesnt help,give LMS a call and get a new one.


--- On Sun, 2/3/13, MERTON B BAKER wrote:

From: MERTON B BAKER
Subject: RE: [7x12minilathe] tailstock Cam lock kit and F/O/R switch change
To: 7x12minilathe@...
Date: Sunday, February 3, 2013, 11:09 AM

Swapping switches is a simple soldering job if you know how to work on circuit boards. The TS camlocksI made for my 7x lathes work very well, and I'm sure the LMS ones will, too. LMS is a very reliable bunch.
Mert
-----Original Message-----
From: 7x12minilathe@... [mailto:7x12minilathe@...]On Behalf Of Exibar
Sent: Sunday, February 03, 2013 12:05 AM
To: 7x12minilathe@...
Subject: [7x12minilathe] tailstock Cam lock kit and F/O/R switch change

HI All!

������ I've been making some parts lately and have had some luck selling them as well.�� Enough to buy some new hop-ups for my 7x12 Cummings lathe :-)

My F/O/R switch is acting up, and I'm thinking that I'd rather have a rotary type switch instead of a toggle, like the one that's on the micromark 7x14... anyone make this swap?���� I'll probably just wind up going with a stock replacement, unless the swap is easy?

I'm also thinking about a Tailstock cam lock kit.�� I see LMS has them for $30...�� Does the cam lock kit rally get the tailstock clamped down tight enough so it doesn't move?�� will installing this kit throw off he alignment of the Tailstock?�� My TS is perfectly aligned right now, I really dont' want to go through that trouble again of lining it back up... or worse I really don't want it to be thrown out of alignment higher or lower :-(

thanks!

�� Mike B


 

I have the kit while the install could be a little fiddly...to a point of annoying the result is great I also have drilled and tapped the 1/2" hole to a 1/2" NPT to accept brass insert so the shaft of the cam can ride on wider bushing type of a hole...worked for me. no miss-alignmentwasexperiencedalthough I do take thetail-stockon and offfrequently

On Sat, Feb 2, 2013 at 10:52 PM, michael kolchins <kwoodhands@...> wrote:

Can't help with the switch but might help with the tailstock. I did not use a camlock, instead I made another nut higher than the original and drilled and tapped in several places for a lever handle. I made the nut about 1" high I think,I'm not near the shop to look at it.Then tightened the nut and marked it for where I wanted to have the handle.I drilled and tapped for 1/4-20 thread at my mark and also another at the left and right of the first tapped hole. The second and third tapped holes were for just in case I might need them to tighten or loosen the tail stock.This worked well for me so I did the same thing on my larger lathe,10x22.You won't need to touch the tail stock ,just make the tall nut and lever handle. You can use round stock or hex stock which I used.Round stock would need at least two flats milled so a wrench can be used if needed.I can only think of a couple of times I needed to use the wrench to tighten the tail stock. Both times I was drilling a large bore in aluminum bronze and the tail stock slipped a bit.
mike


From: Exibar <exibar@...>
To: 7x12minilathe@...
Sent: Sunday, February 3, 2013 12:05 AM
Subject: [7x12minilathe] tailstock Cam lock kit and F/O/R switch change

HI All!
I've been making some parts lately and have had some luck selling them as well. Enough to buy some new hop-ups for my 7x12 Cummings lathe :-)
My F/O/R switch is acting up, and I'm thinking that I'd rather have a rotary type switch instead of a toggle, like the one that's on the micromark 7x14... anyone make this swap? I'll probably just wind up going with a stock replacement, unless the swap is easy?
I'm also thinking about a Tailstock cam lock kit. I see LMS has them for $30... Does the cam lock kit rally get the tailstock clamped down tight enough so it doesn't move? will installing this kit throw off he alignment of the Tailstock? My TS is perfectly aligned right now, I really dont' want to go through that trouble again of lining it back up... or worse I really don't want it to be thrown out of alignment higher or lower :-(
thanks!
Mike B




 

Ellis, I never thought of using a ring spanner,good idea.No work to do with your method.
mike


From: Ellis Cory
To: 7x12minilathe@...
Sent: Sunday, February 3, 2013 3:52 AM
Subject: Re: [7x12minilathe] tailstock Cam lock kit and F/O/R switch change

Mike wrote....... I did not use a camlock, instead I made another nut higher than the original and drilled and tapped in several places for a lever handle.......
I didn't make a camlock. I used a ring spanner, the type with an angle to the handle for hand clearance. Used upside down, it does the job perfectly, clearing the compound slide and staying in place.
Cheers.
Ellis



Jim Dunmyer
 

Mike,
When I had my H.F. lathe, I bought a 17mm combination wrench at a flea market, then cut it about in half with an abrasive wheel. The box end of it is bent at an angle, and it hangs on the T.S. clamp nut. You can usually loosen/tighten the nut w/o actually removing the wrench at all. If you do have to move it, one additional swing will do the job. It’s nearly as fast as a true cam-lock T.S., and clamps better. At least, it worked better than the cam-lock setup on my Micro-Mark 7X14.
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From: Exibar
Sent: Sunday, February 03, 2013 12:05 AM
Subject: [7x12minilathe] tailstock Cam lock kit and F/O/R switch change

HI All!

I've been making some parts lately and have had some luck selling them as well. Enough to buy some new hop-ups for my 7x12 Cummings lathe :-)

My F/O/R switch is acting up, and I'm thinking that I'd rather have a rotary type switch instead of a toggle, like the one that's on the micromark 7x14... anyone make this swap? I'll probably just wind up going with a stock replacement, unless the swap is easy?

I'm also thinking about a Tailstock cam lock kit. I see LMS has them for $30... Does the cam lock kit rally get the tailstock clamped down tight enough so it doesn't move? will installing this kit throw off he alignment of the Tailstock? My TS is perfectly aligned right now, I really dont' want to go through that trouble again of lining it back up... or worse I really don't want it to be thrown out of alignment higher or lower :-(

thanks!

Mike B