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Guten Morgen alles fruender.
Robin's research discovered that the WM180V is manufactured in China by
Weiss. Well done!
Andy wrote "Weiss is German for white, and Sieg is German for victory -
the Chinese seem to be attracted to German-sounding trade-names"
Based on our commercial experience in Oz this is to be expected. Both
Weiss and Sieg are probably German owned companies which have moved off-
shore to take advantage of lower wages and other 3rd world advantages.
Rather than being owned by Mssrs Wong and Lee they are probable owned
by Herrs Schwartz und Schmid. (Please note that the above ethnic stereo-
typing is in no way intended as a slur on any race colour or individual
but is simply used to illustrate a point.)
In Oz we have had whole factories move offshore, from heavy power
equipment to food processing to boot manfacture. Whole factories have
been packed up over a weekend to go to China or Thailalnd, the
ownership does not change.
Point of this dicussion? These lathes are not cheap copies of
something better but follow a European design. The weeknesses of Sieg's
design are more likely to be of commercial origin than representative
of any ethnic shortcomings.

The Weiss lathe would appear a better product than the Sieg 7x12. But
as value for money, Apart from Warco what other pricing information do
we have?


Enough ranting or I will be relegated to the 7x10 group!

One good turn deserves another.
Regards,
Ian

Sehr geehrte Herr Ian!
Es spricht alles dafur... oh, I can't keep it up, and anyway, I don't know how to do umlauts, the scharfes S and things on this keyboard.
You could be right about Weiss, I suppose, though for reasons already stated, I think it unlikely that a German firm would opt for Seig as a trading name with which to be associated. Like you, I intend no racial slur, but all nations have bits of history which they would rather hadn't happened.
mit Freundlichen Grussen,
Andy

steam4ian <fosterscons@...> wrote:
Guten Morgen alles fruender.
Robin's research discovered that the WM180V is manufactured in China by
Weiss. Well done!
Andy wrote "Weiss is German for white, and Sieg is German for victory -
the Chinese seem to be attracted to German-sounding trade-names"
Based on our commercial experience in Oz this is to be expected. Both
Weiss and Sieg are probably German owned companies which have moved off-
shore to take advantage of lower wages and other 3rd world advantages.
Rather than being owned by Mssrs Wong and Lee they are probable owned
by Herrs Schwartz und Schmid. (Please note that the above ethnic stereo-
typing is in no way intended as a slur on any race colour or individual
but is simply used to illustrate a point.)
In Oz we have had whole factories move offshore, from heavy power
equipment to food processing to boot manfacture. Whole factories have
been packed up over a weekend to go to China or Thailalnd, the
ownership does not change.
Point of this dicussion? These lathes are not cheap copies of
something better but follow a European design. The weeknesses of Sieg's
design are more likely to be of commercial origin than representative
of any ethnic shortcomings.

The Weiss lathe would appear a better product than the Sieg 7x12. But
as value for money, Apart from Warco what other pricing information do
we have?

Enough ranting or I will be relegated to the 7x10 group!

One good turn deserves another.
Regards,
Ian






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I saw this Chester Lathe at the London Model Engineering Exhibition.



The Chester rep said that it wasn't sourced from the same manufacturer as the warco lathe. Apart from the the Tail Stock being locked down to the lathe bed by a nut and bolt,and the fact that it was a nicer colour, I couldn't see any difference. Chester price it at ?475

Robin

G'day Andy & Robin
The prices in the Chester catalogue answer my question. They list
the "Conquest" at ?365 and the DB7V at ?475. The "Conquest" only
includes basic extras whereas the DB7V includes a 4 jaw chuck,
steadies and other goodies in the package. For only an extra ?110
(AUD275) you get a better machine plus the extra gear you would have
to purchase anyway.
All I can say is "I wish the DB7V had been available in Oz when I
purchased my lathe."
By comparison you can get in Oz a 7x12 like the "Conquest" for
AUD655 = ?262 on eBay and from a machinery house for AUD799 = ?320.
Being closer to China does have its advantages even if we do lose our
jobs.

Does the DB7V show up in the US? Has anybody seen it in Oz?

One good turn deserves another.
Regards,
Ian



--- In 7x12minilathe@..., "Robin" <robandjan@...> wrote:

I saw this Chester Lathe at the London Model Engineering Exhibition.



The Chester rep said that it wasn't sourced from the same

manufacturer as the warco lathe. Apart from the the Tail Stock being
locked down to the lathe bed by a nut and bolt,and the fact that it
was a nicer colour, I couldn't see any difference. Chester price it
at ?475

Robin

Robin wrote........The Chester rep said that it wasn't sourced from the same manufacturer as the warco lathe..........

No. not with this translation ' Casting iron change gears get greater capacity'
LOL
Ellis

And that fractured English is a word for word copy of the Weiss website which Robin found. Weiss, Warco and Chester look identical in their respective photos. The only difference seems to be in the motor wattage: 700W at Chester, 550W at Warco, and less than either at Weiss. Unlike Warco, Chester don't mention imperial/metric leadscrew options.

Ellis Cory Robin wrote........The Chester rep said that it wasn't sourced from the same manufacturer as the warco lathe..........

No. not with this translation ' Casting iron change gears get greater capacity'
LOL
Ellis








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