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Cummins arrived
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Boss
I would like to know something about the Cummins lathe and where one can be bought.
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It is time to get some regulations placed on UPS and Fedex...like no signature=no proof of delivery. UPS has been very abusive and has cost me dearly. It is time that these people learn that they are paid for SERVICE. The post office isn't doing too hot either... not when it takes 12 days to get a 1 pound package from LaFayette, LA to a town in West Texas. As for weight. I worked for NCR for many years and carried a little fold up wheeled dolly in the station wagon to roll the heavy cash registers in and out of a customers place of business. Never strained a muscle. I guess the younger generation driving the vehicles are just weak pussies. ----- Original Message -----
From: tonyhursh To: 7x12minilathe@... Sent: Tuesday, March 23, 2004 11:48 AM Subject: [7x12minilathe] Cummins arrived My Cummins lathe arrived late yesterday afternoon. I spent some time last night cleaning off the cosmoline-like red grease and doing the small amount of assembly required (mostly just putting on a few handles). I haven't fired it up yet; that will happen tonight. So far my overall impression is good. The extra tooling that comes with it is a nice plus (that's what persuaded me to go with Cummins, actually). I remember reading a few weeks back that Cummins had temporarily suspended shipping the lathes due to excessive damage in shipment. It looks like the solution they came up with is to make an outer cardboard shell around the normal box, with extra space on the ends that get filled with that expanding foam goop. It seems to have worked okay in my case. The outer case is generic cardboard, so it isn't obvious what the package is. That'd be a bonus if you lived in a neighborhood where machine tools might grow legs and walk off if the delivery guy left them on the porch. That's not really an issue around here, but I think someone expressed concern about that a while back. An oddity: although I was told that shipping would occur via UPS when I ordered, the package actually came via FedEx. Cummins notified me of this change and gave me a tracking number, so that's not a big deal. Maybe they've switched to FedEx? The FedEx guy was NOT happy about the package weight. Someone at FedEx had scribbled "Heavy!!!!" on the box with a red crayon. Heh. So far I'm pleased.I'll post again after I finish setting it up and make a few chips. -- Tony Be sure to check out for small mills and lathes. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ADVERTISEMENT ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Links a.. To visit your group on the web, go to: b.. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: 7x12minilathe-unsubscribe@... c.. Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. |
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tonyhursh
My Cummins lathe arrived late yesterday afternoon. I spent some time
last night cleaning off the cosmoline-like red grease and doing the small amount of assembly required (mostly just putting on a few handles). I haven't fired it up yet; that will happen tonight. So far my overall impression is good. The extra tooling that comes with it is a nice plus (that's what persuaded me to go with Cummins, actually). I remember reading a few weeks back that Cummins had temporarily suspended shipping the lathes due to excessive damage in shipment. It looks like the solution they came up with is to make an outer cardboard shell around the normal box, with extra space on the ends that get filled with that expanding foam goop. It seems to have worked okay in my case. The outer case is generic cardboard, so it isn't obvious what the package is. That'd be a bonus if you lived in a neighborhood where machine tools might grow legs and walk off if the delivery guy left them on the porch. That's not really an issue around here, but I think someone expressed concern about that a while back. An oddity: although I was told that shipping would occur via UPS when I ordered, the package actually came via FedEx. Cummins notified me of this change and gave me a tracking number, so that's not a big deal. Maybe they've switched to FedEx? The FedEx guy was NOT happy about the package weight. Someone at FedEx had scribbled "Heavy!!!!" on the box with a red crayon. Heh. So far I'm pleased.I'll post again after I finish setting it up and make a few chips. -- Tony |
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Jones, Joseph A1
A co-worker told me Cummins is in Weatherford, TX today and tommorrow from
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11a to 7p. The location is: American Legion #163 703 Eureka St. Weatherford, TX It's about a four hour drive from Lubbock, so it might be worth it. -Archie -----Original Message-----
From: Boss [mailto:bossone@...] Sent: Wednesday, January 02, 2002 1:26 AM To: 7x12minilathe@... Subject: Re: [7x12minilathe] Cummins arrived I would like to know something about the Cummins lathe and where one can be bought. It is time to get some regulations placed on UPS and Fedex...like no signature=no proof of delivery. UPS has been very abusive and has cost me dearly. It is time that these people learn that they are paid for SERVICE. The post office isn't doing too hot either... not when it takes 12 days to get a 1 pound package from LaFayette, LA to a town in West Texas. As for weight. I worked for NCR for many years and carried a little fold up wheeled dolly in the station wagon to roll the heavy cash registers in and out of a customers place of business. Never strained a muscle. I guess the younger generation driving the vehicles are just weak pussies. ----- Original Message ----- From: tonyhursh To: 7x12minilathe@... Sent: Tuesday, March 23, 2004 11:48 AM Subject: [7x12minilathe] Cummins arrived My Cummins lathe arrived late yesterday afternoon. I spent some time last night cleaning off the cosmoline-like red grease and doing the small amount of assembly required (mostly just putting on a few handles). I haven't fired it up yet; that will happen tonight. So far my overall impression is good. The extra tooling that comes with it is a nice plus (that's what persuaded me to go with Cummins, actually). I remember reading a few weeks back that Cummins had temporarily suspended shipping the lathes due to excessive damage in shipment. It looks like the solution they came up with is to make an outer cardboard shell around the normal box, with extra space on the ends that get filled with that expanding foam goop. It seems to have worked okay in my case. The outer case is generic cardboard, so it isn't obvious what the package is. That'd be a bonus if you lived in a neighborhood where machine tools might grow legs and walk off if the delivery guy left them on the porch. That's not really an issue around here, but I think someone expressed concern about that a while back. An oddity: although I was told that shipping would occur via UPS when I ordered, the package actually came via FedEx. Cummins notified me of this change and gave me a tracking number, so that's not a big deal. Maybe they've switched to FedEx? The FedEx guy was NOT happy about the package weight. Someone at FedEx had scribbled "Heavy!!!!" on the box with a red crayon. Heh. So far I'm pleased.I'll post again after I finish setting it up and make a few chips. -- Tony Be sure to check out <> for small mills and lathes. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ADVERTISEMENT ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- -- Yahoo! Groups Links a.. To visit your group on the web, go to: <> b.. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: 7x12minilathe-unsubscribe@... c.. Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. Be sure to check out <> for small mills and lathes. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ADVERTISEMENT < web/S=1705063697:HM/EXP=1080151838/A=1945637/R=0/SIG=11tfh3gpg/* etflix.com/Default?mqso=60178397&partid=4673018> click here < /S=:HM/A=1945637/rand=154886497> _____ Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: <> * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: 7x12minilathe-unsubscribe@... <mailto:7x12minilathe-unsubscribe@...?subject=Unsubscribe> * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service <> . |
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tonyhursh
--- In 7x12minilathe@..., "Boss" <bossone@c...> wrote:
I would like to know something about the Cummins lathe and where onecan be bought. I bought mine through their web site. This link should take you directly there: ,876.html If the link doesn't work, go to www.cumminstools.com and search for "lathe". I gather that Cummins has road shows, too, although I've never seen one around here. The Cummins definitely comes with more accessories than the Homier, but is correspondingly higher in price (not as much as buying the extra stuff separately, though). Some have said that the Cummins machine is a little higher in quality, but I couldn't speak to that as I've never seen one of the Homiers. |
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Bob Loesch
Hi Tony. I used to have a Homier and a Cummins. Just sold the Homier, but I can vouch for the Cummins being a higher quality (or at least better finished) machine. For instance, the tailstock of the Homier was painted, including the ways for the set-over, while the Cummins was quite clean wherever it had parts which had to move. The Homier was quite poorly set-up, needing adjustments of almost everything, while the Cummins needed only two adjustments; centering the tailstock, and adjusting the cross-slide gibs. The ways seemed better finished, too, as the carriage moves smoothly with no 'tight spots'.
Cummins DOES have road shows, and in fact that's where I got mine. No shipping to pay, and the 'extras' that came with the lathe more than made up for the higher price. I got follow and steady rests, tailstock chuck, faceplate, carbide tools, and quick change tool holders, parting tool, and probably more that I've forgotten. Even at LMS prices, that's quite a bit of tooling for $100. At 02:34 PM 3/23/2004, tonyhursh wrote: --- In 7x12minilathe@..., "Boss" <bossone@c...> wrote:Regards,I would like to know something about the Cummins lathe and where onecan be bought. Bob northern California |
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John
Did you have the old Homier or the one they are selling now?
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From: Bob Loesch [mailto:rrloesch@...] Sent: Tuesday, March 23, 2004 5:54 PM To: 7x12minilathe@... Subject: Re: [7x12minilathe] Re: Cummins arrived Hi Tony. I used to have a Homier and a Cummins. Just sold the Homier, but I can vouch for the Cummins being a higher quality (or at least better finished) machine. For instance, the tailstock of the Homier was painted, |
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Bob Loesch
Mine was one of the new Sieg Homiers. The Cummins is like the old Homier, with the way wipers and the different cross slide.
Interestingly enough, while I had the Cummins apart to clean it up, I tried various parts from the Harbor Freight Sieg machine, and they all fit except the cross slide and follow rest. If the cross slide won't fit, then it's a different saddle, but the apron is the same, or at least uses the same parts. Gears, belt, etc. will work. The lead screw will not, because its bearings are different, but both the bearings and leadscrew will fit if you change them both together. The tailstock is a perfect fit. The Cummins might not be Sieg, but if it isn't, it's pretty durned close! At 03:43 PM 3/23/2004, John wrote: Did you have the old Homier or the one they are selling now?Regards, Bob northern California |
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FPS-TECH
What are the part numbers on the way-wipers in your manual? Are they adaptable to the other brands of mini-lathe?
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From: Bob Loesch To: 7x12minilathe@... Sent: Tuesday, March 23, 2004 8:43 PM Subject: RE: [7x12minilathe] Re: Cummins arrived Mine was one of the new Sieg Homiers. The Cummins is like the old Homier, with the way wipers and the different cross slide. Interestingly enough, while I had the Cummins apart to clean it up, I tried various parts from the Harbor Freight Sieg machine, and they all fit except the cross slide and follow rest. If the cross slide won't fit, then it's a different saddle, but the apron is the same, or at least uses the same parts. Gears, belt, etc. will work. The lead screw will not, because its bearings are different, but both the bearings and leadscrew will fit if you change them both together. The tailstock is a perfect fit. The Cummins might not be Sieg, but if it isn't, it's pretty durned close! At 03:43 PM 3/23/2004, John wrote: >Did you have the old Homier or the one they are selling now? > >Thanks, >John > >-----Original Message----- >From: Bob Loesch [mailto:rrloesch@...] >Hi Tony. I used to have a Homier and a Cummins. Just sold the Homier, but >I can vouch for the Cummins being a higher quality (or at least better >finished) machine. For instance, the tailstock of the Homier was painted, Regards, Bob northern California Be sure to check out for small mills and lathes. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Links a.. To visit your group on the web, go to: b.. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: 7x12minilathe-unsubscribe@... c.. Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. |
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You can make pretty serviceable way wipers from pipe cleaners held by
screws in the steady-rest mounting holes. Getting them bent to the right shape only takes a couple of tries :) Roy --- In 7x12minilathe@..., "FPS-TECH" <fps-tech@s...> wrote: What are the part numbers on the way-wipers in your manual? Arethey adaptable to the other brands of mini-lathe? old Homier, with the way wipers and the different cross slide.up, I tried various parts from the Harbor Freight Sieg machine, and they allfit except the cross slide and follow rest. If the cross slide won'tfit, then it's a different saddle, but the apron is the same, or at leastuses the same parts. Gears, belt, etc. will work. The lead screw willnot, because its bearings are different, but both the bearings and leadscrewwill fit if you change them both together. The tailstock is a perfect fit.The Cummins might not be Sieg, but if it isn't, it's pretty durnedclose! Homier, but >I can vouch for the Cummins being a higher quality (or at leastbetter >finished) machine. For instance, the tailstock of the Homierwas painted, mills and lathes. ---------- Yahoo! Groups LinksService. |
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Bob Loesch
The way wipers, while promenent on the saddle, do not appear on either the exploded diagram nor the parts list, nor does the saddle in the diagram appear to have screw holes to mount them. There is another screw on my lathe which serves as a stop for the tailstock so that it cannot slide off of the bed, but that screw (which protrudes from the webbing under the ways at the extreme right hand end of the lathe) doesn't appear on the diagram either. The leadscrew on the diagram doesn't have the adjustment for play either.
In fact, the diagram in the Cummins manual looks identical to the one I have for my Harbor Freight lathe, and also the one for the Homier. The more I see of these little things makes me conclude that the Cummins (and possibly the "old" Homier) were Sieg machines, but a step or two up from the Harbor Freight and "new" Homier grade machines. Everything about the Cummins tool and its presentation seem to be 'a cut above'. The packing was better, consisting of a thick heavy styrofoam moulding holding the machine and accessories, inside a heavy cardboard carton, and bound by heavy plastic straps two on the long side, one around the ends. The manual, which with the HF lathe was a poorly printed cheap affair stapled together, is a well printed bound booklet on heavy slick paper. Only the page that shows the accessories, and the page which shows the exploded diagram appear to be low quality similar to the HF lathe's book, but the paper is still the heavy slick paper. At 06:20 PM 3/23/2004, FPS-TECH wrote: What are the part numbers on the way-wipers in your manual? Are they adaptable to the other brands of mini-lathe?Regards, Bob northern California |
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tonyhursh
--- In 7x12minilathe@..., Bob Loesch <rrloesch@j...>
wrote: For instance, the tailstock of the Homier was painted,clean wherever it had parts which had to move.I found a few dots of overspray on mine, but it all came off easily. The Homier was quite poorlyneeded only two adjustments; centering the tailstock, and adjusting theThe tailstock was slightly off-center on mine as well, but that was a quick adjustment. My cross-slide seems fine. I'm going to go over the machine with measuring equipment this weekend, but other than the tailstock it was usable out of the box, at least at my level of metal-butchering skill. The carriage travels smoothly from one end of the bed to the other with no binding or slop. I'm sure I'm going to spend some time tinkering with it, but overall I'm quite pleased with the quality. the 'extras' that came with the lathe more than madechuck, faceplate, carbide tools, and quick change tool holders, partingtool, and probably more that I've forgotten.Yes, indeed. I was planning to buy a Homier, but after adding up the prices for that stuff the Cummins works out to be a better deal. I did order a 4 jaw chuck and a couple of other items from LMS, though. -- Tony |
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