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steel alloys


Richard Kleinhenz
 

Basic question: When you buy steel alloys, how can you tell what you have? Is there any kind of color coding? Sometimes rod has some yellow or blue color on it. Is that meaningful?

Secondly, if you bought some stuff and don't use it all - do you write the alloy on it with permanent marker? Or is there some way of tell what you got? I don't mean telling stainless steel from aluminum, but 12L14 from 1018 or drill rod.

How do you store it? Inside, of course, in a 'dry' basement that is unheated and not all that dry. Do you keep the alloys separated? Make up your own color coding? Do you wipe some oil on it to help prevent surface rust? Looking for ideas!

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Rich
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Jim E.
 

If I know what it is, I somehow keep track of it, even the cutoffs.
This may be by label or segregation. Mine is stored in a shed. My
philosophy is if it can rust, it will. I once sprayed some 12L14 with
rust preventive, still had surface rust, so I just accept it. Same with
corrosion on certain Al alloys.

I haven't a clue what the colors mean, if anything.

Graciously,
Jim
Lakewood, CA
All Hail Rube Goldberg!

Richard Kleinhenz wrote:


Basic question: When you buy steel alloys, how can you tell what you have? Is there any kind of color coding? Sometimes rod has some yellow or blue color on it. Is that meaningful?

Secondly, if you bought some stuff and don't use it all - do you write the alloy on it with permanent marker? Or is there some way of tell what you got? I don't mean telling stainless steel from aluminum, but 12L14 from 1018 or drill rod.

How do you store it? Inside, of course, in a 'dry' basement that is unheated and not all that dry. Do you keep the alloys separated? Make up your own color coding? Do you wipe some oil on it to help prevent surface rust? Looking for ideas!

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Regards,
Rich
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Richard Kleinhenz
mailto:woodnpen@...


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david
 

the colours are the spec for the material. if it is painted at one end, then
always cut from the other end and leave the marks on


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smurf707
 

There is not universal color coding system, each metal foundry has
its own, or smaller shops make there own. I worked in a tool and die
shop a couple years ago that used white for d2, yellow for a2, and
there was one other I forget.

Sean

--- In 7x12minilathe@..., Richard Kleinhenz
<woodnpen@o...> wrote:
Basic question: When you buy steel alloys, how can you tell what
you have? Is there any kind of color coding? Sometimes rod has some
yellow or blue color on it. Is that meaningful?

Secondly, if you bought some stuff and don't use it all - do you
write the alloy on it with permanent marker? Or is there some way of
tell what you got? I don't mean telling stainless steel from
aluminum, but 12L14 from 1018 or drill rod.

How do you store it? Inside, of course, in a 'dry' basement that
is unheated and not all that dry. Do you keep the alloys separated?
Make up your own color coding? Do you wipe some oil on it to help
prevent surface rust? Looking for ideas!

--
Regards,
Rich
========================================
Richard Kleinhenz
mailto:woodnpen@o...


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Richard Albers
 

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Richard Albers
 

--- In 7x12minilathe@..., Richard Kleinhenz
<woodnpen@o...> wrote:
Basic question: When you buy steel alloys, how can you tell what
you have?
Basically, you have to take the supplier's word for it. If he lies
a lot, find another supplier, or a favorite salesperson.

Is there any kind of color coding? Sometimes rod has some
yellow or blue color on it. Is that meaningful?
Only at that particular supplier's lot. I have 3 suppliers nearby
that I frequent. All 3 use different color codes. There does not
seem to be any standard at all, for any metal I know of.

Secondly, if you bought some stuff and don't use it all - do you
write the alloy on it with permanent marker?
I use a Sharpie (brand) pen. It writes on most everything, and
seems to be close to permanent - but cutting fluid does take it off...

Or is there some way of tell what you got? I don't mean telling
stainless steel from aluminum, but 12L14 from 1018 or drill rod.

James Early posted two from ME (I think), perhaps he will tell us
where they are (my filing "system" does not track sources). Called
"What metal is it?" by R. H. Warring, July 21, 1955.

How do you store it? Inside, of course, in a 'dry' basement that
is unheated and not all that dry. Do you keep the alloys separated?
No, I don't have that much. Yet... Mine is just leaning in a
corner.

Make up your own color coding?
Sounds like a good idea, if you keep a lot of colors of paint
around. I just mark it on the end with a Sharpie.

Do you wipe some oil on it to help prevent surface rust?
I tried that, it worked for a while but then started to rust again.
I think grease will last longer - I'm testing that idea now. It is
definately messier.

RA in rainy(!) Southern California


Richard Albers
 

--- In 7x12minilathe@..., Richard Kleinhenz
<woodnpen@o...> wrote:

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... Or is there some way of tell what you got? I don't mean
telling stainless steel from aluminum, but 12L14 from 1018 or
drill rod.
I found it! JWE posted two articles on this at:

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Good luck.

RA


david
 

to keep steel rust free, i have a long plant trough with lid that is 30 inch
by 7 inch by 7 inch. it has about an inch deep filling of 50/50 parrafin and
oil. the occaisional swill round keeps everything rust free


DAVID WILLIAMS
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Rich Kleinhenz
 

Thank you all for the various replies, they were very helpful