Re: Mexican users of 7x12 lathe
Doesn't hurt to bring donuts or lunch or something along with the ask.
On Tuesday, February 27th, 2024 at 11:31 AM, Charles Kinzer <ckinzer@...> wrote:
When you are in some town that has a machine shop, or two, or more, consider just going in and asking if they have some small scraps they might give you.? Or maybe even say you can pay.? (If paying, know what metal is nominally worth before you pay anything.)
You can say something like this, "I do small hobby machining projects at home and am looking for small scrap metal pieces."? If they are still listening, you can then say, "...like aluminum, brass, bronze, steel, round, hex, square shapes, anything."
If they so no, you haven't lost anything. If they say yes, there is a good chance you might get some for free.? It is possible they may want some payment.? And if they don't, you still might give them a few bucks "for your petty cash fund or Christmas party fund or something."
If they can't or won't help, you can ask if they know of anybody else around that might be able to help.? Always try and get leads.
Charles E. "Chuck" Kinzer
On Tuesday, February 27, 2024 at 08:04:34 AM PST, davesmith1800 <davesmith1@...> wrote:
Even in American that can be hard to to find.
I would look at Amazon and Walmart.
Back in 1960's you could goto scrap yards but now machine shops buy 6" bar stock too.?
Dave?
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Re: Mexican users of 7x12 lathe
When you are in some town that has a machine shop, or two, or more, consider just going in and asking if they have some small scraps they might give you.? Or maybe even say you can pay.? (If paying, know what metal is nominally worth before you pay anything.)
You can say something like this, "I do small hobby machining projects at home and am looking for small scrap metal pieces."? If they are still listening, you can then say, "...like aluminum, brass, bronze, steel, round, hex, square shapes, anything."
If they so no, you haven't lost anything. If they say yes, there is a good chance you might get some for free.? It is possible they may want some payment.? And if they don't, you still might give them a few bucks "for your petty cash fund or Christmas party fund or something."
If they can't or won't help, you can ask if they know of anybody else around that might be able to help.? Always try and get leads.
Charles E. "Chuck" Kinzer
On Tuesday, February 27, 2024 at 08:04:34 AM PST, davesmith1800 <davesmith1@...> wrote:
Even in American that can be hard to to find.
I would look at Amazon and Walmart.
Back in 1960's you could goto scrap yards but now machine shops buy 6" bar stock too.?
Dave?
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Re: Mexican users of 7x12 lathe
I'm in a very rural part of the US.? Not much in the way of scrap yards or metal purchases that aren't an hour+ drive.
I tend to scrounge from other sources.? For example, if you find an old rear end/differential, you can get some nice slices out of the axle tube and the axles, plus the flanges.? Some of the stuff is heat treated so that can be an issue machining.? If you don't mind medicore material, exercise weight plates can give some cast iron slugs.? Some items at places like Harbor Freight are cheap enough to be worth buying and then just using for metal sources.
Aluminum, at least for me, tends to be hard to find as it gets scrapped so readily and for that reason, brass and copper is really difficult to find.? Sometimes I just buy brass fittings that are close enough to machine down even though it's an expensive approach.? I've got a local hardware store that still has a lot of brass fittings.
On Tuesday, February 27th, 2024 at 11:04 AM, davesmith1800 <davesmith1@...> wrote:
Even in American that can be hard to to find.
I would look at Amazon and Walmart.
Back in 1960's you could goto scrap yards but now machine shops buy 6" bar stock too.?
Dave?
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What size?
I would just buy set for your work.?
Dave?
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Re: Mexican users of 7x12 lathe
Even in American that can be hard to to find.
I would look at Amazon and Walmart.
Back in 1960's you could goto scrap yards but now machine shops buy 6" bar stock too.?
Dave?
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Mexican users of 7x12 lathe
Hi
I want to meet Mexican users of 7 x 12 mini-lathe.
I live in México City, however,I don't speak Spanish. ;)
First of all I need info where to go to get metal.
/johannes
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I need to broach some keyways in gears for my lathe but need to make some guides. What is the width of the slots for type A and B guides?
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mike
Feb 24? ?
Get a junk vice from a garage sale or Goodwill for practice, to see how it will turn out for whatever method you chose.
Don't practice on the item you want to keep.
For the mig, you can get Silicon Bronze wire, and use argon or CO2 gas.
Yes, it will still leave a golden area like the brazing rod, but if you haven't done brazing rod before, that's one more new skill to master.
Now that isn't a bad thing, but unless you're retired, you may not want to devote time to that. I have done both, and I feel the mig with the bronze wire was a lot faster to get good results with.
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On Fri, Feb 23, 2024 at 7:36?PM Roy via groups.io <roylowenthal@...> wrote:
There are some color matching rods for brazing cast iron! They're not an exact color match, but, they're gray instead of brass colored. They're also trickier to use than classic bronze rods.
?< https://www.lawsonproducts.com/Cronatron/22-Cast-Iron-Bare-Brazing-Rod-316/CW3062.lp >
Roy
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Ralph Hulslander
Feb 24? ?
Like others have said, if it doesn't affect the usage of the vice why bother?
Ralph
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Miket_NYC
Feb 24? ?
I think people are blowing this out of proportion. The original poster seemed to be talking about small, cosmetic holes. For these, epoxy should be sufficient with no need for welding, brazing, etc.
Mike Taglieri?
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I agree ??
It is for me to go top end repair.
It is type I did you given one chance to do right.
I have to remembered this a hobby and a hobby budget.?
Keep it simple?
In this case JB Weld is best for this job
Dave?
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Bill Williams
Feb 24? ?
Goot some India made milling vise components and found several big blowholes filled with cheap Bondo. Dug it all out, cleaned it up, and thought about how to best fill the holes. After some time considering all the alternatives I have concluded that an epoxy filled stick is probably my best alternative as the problem is cosmetic! Bill in Boulder
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I agree ??
It is for me to go top end repair.
It is type I did you given one chance to do right.
I have to remembered this a hobby and a hobby budget.?
Keep it simple?
In this case JB Weld is best for this job
Dave?
Miket_NYC
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I think people are blowing this out of proportion. The original poster seemed to be talking about small, cosmetic holes. For these, epoxy should be sufficient with no need for welding, brazing, etc.
Mike Taglieri
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... There down side to bronze mig and cast iron. You can not see bronze adhere to cast iron.? You could cold weld with mig.? Torch or TIG you see the adhering.? I have used both and found torch is best but slower. Dave?
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It could be done on a mini-lathe, as you say, with appropriately downsized material.
Caution on the fire hazards of such experiments!
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Lone Tree, Colorado? ?USA
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?Dear Mike,
Thank you, that was very interesting.
Forgive my ignorance, but could you do this on a mini lathe, using appropriately sized (smaller) components, i.e. is the (average?) motor powerful enough etc. Meaning has anyone in the 7x12 community actually done this?
David
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On 24 Feb 2024, at 23:56, mike allen <animal@...> wrote:
?this popped up after a tube I was watching
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Goot some India made milling vise components and found several big blowholes filled with cheap Bondo. Dug it all out, cleaned it up, and thought about how to best fill the holes. After some time considering all the alternatives I have concluded that an epoxy filled stick is probably my best alternative as the problem is cosmetic!? ?Bill in Boulder
[Edited Message Follows]
[Reason: On Chemo]
I agree ??
It is for me to go top end repair.
It is type I did you given one chance to do right.
I have to remembered this a hobby and a hobby budget.?
Keep it simple?
In this case JB Weld is best for this job
Dave?
Miket_NYC
1:23pm? ?
I think people are blowing this out of proportion. The original poster seemed to be talking about small, cosmetic holes. For these, epoxy should be sufficient with no need for welding, brazing, etc.
Mike Taglieri
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I agree ??
It is for me to go top end repair.
It is type I did you given one chance to do right.
I have to remembered this a hobby and a hobby budget.?
Keep it simple?
In this case JB Weld is best for this job
Dave?
toggle quoted message
Show quoted text
Miket_NYC
1:23pm? ?
I think people are blowing this out of proportion. The original poster seemed to be talking about small, cosmetic holes. For these, epoxy should be sufficient with no need for welding, brazing, etc.
Mike Taglieri
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this popped up after a tube I was watching
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I think people are blowing this out of proportion. The original poster seemed to be talking about small, cosmetic holes. For these, epoxy should be sufficient with no need for welding, brazing, etc.
Mike Taglieri?
Get a junk vice from a garage sale or Goodwill for practice, to see how it will turn out for whatever method you chose. Don't practice on the item you want to keep.
For the mig, you can get Silicon Bronze wire, and use argon or CO2 gas.
Yes, it will still leave a golden area like the brazing rod, but if you haven't done brazing rod?before, that's one more new skill to master. Now that isn't a bad thing, but unless you're retired, you may not want to devote time to that. I have done both, and I feel the mig with the bronze wire was a lot faster to get good results with.
There are some color matching rods for brazing cast iron! They're not an exact color match, but, they're gray instead of brass colored. They're also trickier to use than classic bronze rods.
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Roy
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Like others have said, if it doesn't affect the usage of the vice why bother?
Ralph
Get a junk vice from a garage sale or Goodwill for practice, to see how it will turn out for whatever method you chose. Don't practice on the item you want to keep.
For the mig, you can get Silicon Bronze wire, and use argon or CO2 gas.
Yes, it will still leave a golden area like the brazing rod, but if you haven't done brazing rod?before, that's one more new skill to master. Now that isn't a bad thing, but unless you're retired, you may not want to devote time to that. I have done both, and I feel the mig with the bronze wire was a lot faster to get good results with.
There are some color matching rods for brazing cast iron! They're not an exact color match, but, they're gray instead of brass colored. They're also trickier to use than classic bronze rods.
?<??>
Roy
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Get a junk vice from a garage sale or Goodwill for practice, to see how it will turn out for whatever method you chose. Don't practice on the item you want to keep.
For the mig, you can get Silicon Bronze wire, and use argon or CO2 gas.
Yes, it will still leave a golden area like the brazing rod, but if you haven't done brazing rod?before, that's one more new skill to master. Now that isn't a bad thing, but unless you're retired, you may not want to devote time to that. I have done both, and I feel the mig with the bronze wire was a lot faster to get good results with.
There are some color matching rods for brazing cast iron! They're not an exact color match, but, they're gray instead of brass colored. They're also trickier to use than classic bronze rods.
?<??>
Roy
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Re: “Machinists Bedside Reader by Guy Lautard”
He has advertised the first edition back in print in a couple of recent issues of Home Shop Machinist, and has a link to the new printing of it at amazon?
Bill,
I honestly don’t know what they are worth. (I saw some for sale on the internet and thought the prices were insane. That would lead me to think he might not be selling anything anymore. Lautard still has his website up but I don’t know if he is still around. He was born in 1946 and that would place him at 78.
Dick
--? Bruce Johnson
"Wherever you go, there you are." B. Banzai, PhD
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Re: “Machinists Bedside Reader by Guy Lautard”
There are some on amazon also.
There's "for sale" and then there's "sold".? ? Toss out the very high priced and very low priced.? ?The average of the rest may be considered the value.? ? Keeping in mine the condition also.
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Lone Tree, Colorado? ?USA
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Re: “Machinists Bedside Reader by Guy Lautard”
I just did some research on EBay and found recent sales at $125.00 for a set of three.
Dick
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Re: “Machinists Bedside Reader by Guy Lautard”
Bill,
I honestly don’t know what they are worth. (I saw some for sale on the internet and thought the prices were insane. That would lead me to think he might not be selling anything anymore. Lautard still has his website up but I don’t know if he is still around. He was born in 1946 and that would place him at 78.
Dick
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