I could tell mush difference in Cobalt or HSS.?
Use? both Cobalt and HSS?
Dave?
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Never seen or used cryogenic bits , what makes them better ? When I buy tool blanks I usually buy plain HSS & then buy a couple in the same sizes in Cobalt
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Never seen or used cryogenic bits , what makes them better ??
When I buy tool blanks I usually buy plain HSS & then buy a
couple in the same sizes in Cobalt . I read somewere that ya
should wear a respirator when sharpening the cobalt ones ?
thanks
animal
On 3/4/24 2:50 PM, BuffaloJohn wrote:
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Amen to sharp bits.?
I'm a fan of cobalt and cryogenic bits as well...
I'm a fan of cheap tools but expensive (for
me) sharp bits.
Seems to work better than the other way
round.
Tony
The big wrench also makes a decent persuader in a
pinch...
I also have a number of HF buys that were only
needed for one task and have been working like champs
for years after that task... Some of my HF buys have
been garbage (small twist drills), but I am way way
ahead on the good versus bad.
On Mon, Mar 4, 2024
at 8:34?AM Arthur Coe < acoe@...>
wrote:
This is why we have Harbor
Freight :)? The tool elitists will say "don't
buy that crap, it won't last."? But at that
price, it only has to last for one job, and it
pays for itself.? Notwithstanding, I have many
HF wrenches that have been in service for many
years and still going strong.? Plus, at their
prices I have been able to assemble a number
of complete tool sets dedicated to a variety
of functions and pieces of equipment.
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Buffalo John
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My approach to the bits question has been ¡°buy the cheap sets, then replace the ones you use enough to have to resharpen with good, expensive ones.¡±
On Mar 4, 2024, at 3:18 PM, Tony Smith <ajsmith1968@...> wrote:
I'm a fan of cheap tools but expensive (for me) sharp bits.
Seems to work better than the other way round.
Tony The big wrench also makes a decent persuader in a pinch...
I also have a number of HF buys that were only needed for one task and have been working like champs for years after that task... Some of my HF buys have been garbage (small twist drills), but I am way way ahead on the good versus bad.
On Mon, Mar 4, 2024 at 8:34?AM Arthur Coe < acoe@...> wrote:
This is why we have Harbor Freight :)? The tool elitists will say "don't buy that crap, it won't last."? But at that price, it only has to last for one job, and it pays for itself.? Notwithstanding, I have many HF wrenches that have been in service for many years and still going strong.? Plus, at their prices I have been able to assemble a number of complete tool sets dedicated to a variety of functions and pieces of equipment.
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Buffalo John
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Bruce Johnson
The less a man knows about how sausages and laws are made, the easier it is to steal his vote and give him botulism.
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Amen to sharp bits.?
I'm a fan of cobalt and cryogenic bits as well...
I'm a fan of cheap tools but expensive (for me) sharp bits.
Seems to work better than the other way round.
Tony
The big wrench also makes a decent persuader in a pinch...
I also have a number of HF buys that were only needed for one task and have been working like champs for years after that task... Some of my HF buys have been garbage (small twist drills), but I am way way ahead on the good versus bad.
On Mon, Mar 4, 2024 at 8:34?AM Arthur Coe < acoe@...> wrote:
This is why we have Harbor Freight :)? The tool elitists will say "don't buy that crap, it won't last."? But at that price, it only has to last for one job, and it pays for itself.? Notwithstanding, I have many HF wrenches that have been in service for many years and still going strong.? Plus, at their prices I have been able to assemble a number of complete tool sets dedicated to a variety of functions and pieces of equipment.
--
Buffalo John
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Buffalo John
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I'm a fan of cheap tools but expensive (for me) sharp bits.
Seems to work better than the other way round.
Tony
The big wrench also makes a decent persuader in a pinch...
I also have a number of HF buys that were only needed for one task and have been working like champs for years after that task... Some of my HF buys have been garbage (small twist drills), but I am way way ahead on the good versus bad.
On Mon, Mar 4, 2024 at 8:34?AM Arthur Coe < acoe@...> wrote:
This is why we have Harbor Freight :)? The tool elitists will say "don't buy that crap, it won't last."? But at that price, it only has to last for one job, and it pays for itself.? Notwithstanding, I have many HF wrenches that have been in service for many years and still going strong.? Plus, at their prices I have been able to assemble a number of complete tool sets dedicated to a variety of functions and pieces of equipment.
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Buffalo John
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Re: Flame / Candle Engine photo and drawings.
There¡¯s this one:?
I made a pdf of the article, attached
I¡¯ve got quite a collection of pdfs from perusing the back issues of pop mechanics in google books by setting my screenshot format to PDF; I have a big 32¡± monitor on my home computer which lets me capture them is fairly high detail.
(If anyone is interested in the process (on a Mac, at least) I can share my workflow)
On Mar 4, 2024, at 12:27 PM, davesmith1800 <davesmith1@...> wrote:
Looking for photo and drawings on Flame / Candle Engine.
My next project wis going to a flame ? engine and looking for data.
Dave?
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Bruce Johnson
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I have a 24¡± pipe wrench (not even the biggest HF sells! They go up to 36") for the same reason: it was worth the cost to take off that one fitting I needed undone that one time, because it beat digging up my entire yard and part of the driveway (a buried water pipe )
Might serve as a home defense weapon in a pinch. 8-P
Other absurdly outsized tools I have includes a giant 24¡± caliper like this?
Got it as a ganga deal from American Science and Surplus (mainly because it was cool, and cheap, but it¡¯s actually come in handy for things like checking squareness of cabinet cases and drawers, easier than a tape measure because I can truly check inside corner to inside corner. ) Plus I can accurately measure the entire length of my lathe with it ?lol.
On Mar 4, 2024, at 6:00 AM, Miket_NYC <mctaglieri@...> wrote:
Last week, I changed the undersized, crappy radiator in my kitchen for a bigger one that heats the room much better.? This involved undoing big threaded components that may not have been touched in half a century.
A tool that to some extent made the job possible was a 24" Crescent wrench I bought from Harbor Freight. It cost $33, which I thought was very reasonable considering the size. Here's a picture of my newly installed and painted radiator with the giant wrench on top of it.?
It may have been possible to get this plumbing apart with a small wrench and a cheater bar, but it wouldn't have been EASY, which it was with this wrench. (Also, taking heating equipment apart in the wintertime is a bit risky because if you screw up, the house may be cold for a long time).? I can't say any of us will ever find something on a minilathe that needs?a wrench this big, but I'll find other occasions to use it, and I bet you would too.
Mike Taglieri?
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Re: Flame / Candle Engine photo and drawings.
here's a couple
animal
On 3/4/24 11:27 AM, davesmith1800
wrote:
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Looking for photo and drawings on Flame / Candle Engine.
My next project wis going to a flame ? engine and looking for
data.
Dave?
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Flame / Candle Engine photo and drawings.
Looking for photo and drawings on Flame / Candle Engine.
My next project wis going to a flame ? engine and looking for data.
Dave?
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The big wrench also makes a decent persuader in a pinch...
I also have a number of HF buys that were only needed for one task and have been working like champs for years after that task... Some of my HF buys have been garbage (small twist drills), but I am way way ahead on the good versus bad.
On Mon, Mar 4, 2024 at 8:34?AM Arthur Coe < acoe@...> wrote:
This is why we have Harbor Freight :)? The tool elitists will say "don't buy that crap, it won't last."? But at that price, it only has to last for one job, and it pays for itself.? Notwithstanding, I have many HF wrenches that have been in service for many years and still going strong.? Plus, at their prices I have been able to assemble a number of complete tool sets dedicated to a variety of functions and pieces of equipment.
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Buffalo John
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??? Always dug the look of radiators . If ya leave the wrench on
the radiator during th eday & early evening ya can toss in in
the bed for a foot warmer . Those big Crescent's & the 3'
& 4' pipe wrenches do have their place .
animal
On 3/4/24 5:00 AM, Miket_NYC wrote:
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Last week, I changed the undersized, crappy
radiator in my kitchen for a bigger one that heats the room much
better.? This involved undoing big threaded components that may
not have been touched in half a century.
A tool that to some extent made the job possible
was a 24" Crescent wrench I bought from Harbor Freight. It
cost $33, which I thought was very reasonable considering the
size. Here's a picture of my newly installed and painted
radiator with the giant wrench on top of it.?
It may have been possible to get this plumbing
apart with a small wrench and a cheater bar, but it wouldn't
have been EASY, which it was with this wrench. (Also, taking
heating equipment apart in the wintertime is a bit risky
because if you screw up, the house may be cold for a long
time).? I can't say any of us will ever find something on a
minilathe that needs?a wrench this big, but I'll find other
occasions to use it, and I bet you would too.
Mike Taglieri?
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I have a 24" Crescent wrench since 1970's.?
Since I retired I think 4 times.
Great for that day I need the wrench.?
Dave?
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Miket_NYC
5:01am? ?
Last week, I changed the undersized, crappy radiator in my kitchen for a bigger one that heats the room much better. This involved undoing big threaded components that may not have been touched in half a century.
A tool that to some extent made the job possible was a 24" Crescent wrench
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A bit overkill on a minilathe, eh, John?!
On Monday, 4 March 2024, 15:47:04 UTC, John Mattis <john.mattis@...> wrote:
Actually I have an adjustable wrench just that size, Of course I don't use it very often. John Mattis (retired mechanical?engineer)
On Monday, March 4, 2024 at 05:01:54 AM PST, Miket_NYC < mctaglieri@...> wrote:
Last week, I changed the undersized, crappy radiator in my kitchen for a bigger one that heats the room much better.? This involved undoing big threaded components that may not have been touched in half a century.
A tool that to some extent made the job possible was a 24" Crescent wrench I bought from Harbor Freight. It cost $33, which I thought was very reasonable considering the size. Here's a picture of my newly installed and painted radiator with the giant wrench on top of it.?
It may have been possible to get this plumbing apart with a small wrench and a cheater bar, but it wouldn't have been EASY, which it was with this wrench. (Also, taking heating equipment apart in the wintertime is a bit risky because if you screw up, the house may be cold for a long time).? I can't say any of us will ever find something on a minilathe that needs?a wrench this big, but I'll find other occasions to use it, and I bet you would too.
Mike Taglieri? Attachments:
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A month ago I got a set of Silver and Deming Drills from Amazon for $35. I just used them yesterday to drill eight 7/8 inch diameter holes through 1/4 inch thick steel angles. The drill worked great. I should mention that my floor mount drill press is variable speed with a 1 HP motor. John Mattis (retired mechanical?engineer)
On Mon, Mar 4, 2024 at 8:34?AM Arthur Coe < acoe@...> wrote:
This is why we have Harbor Freight :)? The tool elitists will say "don't buy that crap, it won't last."? But at that price, it only has to last for one job, and it pays for itself.? Notwithstanding, I have many HF wrenches that have been in service for many years and still going strong.? Plus, at their prices I have been able to assemble a number of complete tool sets dedicated to a variety of functions and pieces of equipment.
On Monday, March 4, 2024 at 05:01:54 AM PST, Miket_NYC < mctaglieri@...> wrote:
Last week, I changed the undersized, crappy radiator in my kitchen for a bigger one that heats the room much better.? This involved undoing big threaded components that may not have been touched in half a century.
A tool that to some extent made the job possible was a 24" Crescent wrench I bought from Harbor Freight. It cost $33, which I thought was very reasonable considering the size. Here's a picture of my newly installed and painted radiator with the giant wrench on top of it.?
It may have been possible to get this plumbing apart with a small wrench and a cheater bar, but it wouldn't have been EASY, which it was with this wrench. (Also, taking heating equipment apart in the wintertime is a bit risky because if you screw up, the house may be cold for a long time).? I can't say any of us will ever find something on a minilathe that needs?a wrench this big, but I'll find other occasions to use it, and I bet you would too.
Mike Taglieri? Attachments:
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This is why we have Harbor Freight :)? The tool elitists will say "don't buy that crap, it won't last."? But at that price, it only has to last for one job, and it pays for itself.? Notwithstanding, I have many HF wrenches that have been in service for many years and still going strong.? Plus, at their prices I have been able to assemble a number of complete tool sets dedicated to a variety of functions and pieces of equipment.
On Monday, March 4, 2024 at 05:01:54 AM PST, Miket_NYC <mctaglieri@...> wrote:
Last week, I changed the undersized, crappy radiator in my kitchen for a bigger one that heats the room much better.? This involved undoing big threaded components that may not have been touched in half a century.
A tool that to some extent made the job possible was a 24" Crescent wrench I bought from Harbor Freight. It cost $33, which I thought was very reasonable considering the size. Here's a picture of my newly installed and painted radiator with the giant wrench on top of it.?
It may have been possible to get this plumbing apart with a small wrench and a cheater bar, but it wouldn't have been EASY, which it was with this wrench. (Also, taking heating equipment apart in the wintertime is a bit risky because if you screw up, the house may be cold for a long time).? I can't say any of us will ever find something on a minilathe that needs?a wrench this big, but I'll find other occasions to use it, and I bet you would too.
Mike Taglieri? Attachments:
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Actually I have an adjustable wrench just that size, Of course I don't use it very often. John Mattis (retired mechanical?engineer)
On Mon, Mar 4, 2024 at 7:43?AM Charles Kinzer < ckinzer@...> wrote:
Amusing photo.
You might now consider just displaying it as a "wall hangar".? Of course, if you have ever seen what was used in a place like an old railroad roundhouse, or ship builder, that's still a pretty small wrench.
Charles E. "Chuck" Kinzer
On Monday, March 4, 2024 at 05:01:54 AM PST, Miket_NYC < mctaglieri@...> wrote:
Last week, I changed the undersized, crappy radiator in my kitchen for a bigger one that heats the room much better.? This involved undoing big threaded components that may not have been touched in half a century.
A tool that to some extent made the job possible was a 24" Crescent wrench I bought from Harbor Freight. It cost $33, which I thought was very reasonable considering the size. Here's a picture of my newly installed and painted radiator with the giant wrench on top of it.?
It may have been possible to get this plumbing apart with a small wrench and a cheater bar, but it wouldn't have been EASY, which it was with this wrench. (Also, taking heating equipment apart in the wintertime is a bit risky because if you screw up, the house may be cold for a long time).? I can't say any of us will ever find something on a minilathe that needs?a wrench this big, but I'll find other occasions to use it, and I bet you would too.
Mike Taglieri? Attachments:
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Amusing photo.
You might now consider just displaying it as a "wall hangar".? Of course, if you have ever seen what was used in a place like an old railroad roundhouse, or ship builder, that's still a pretty small wrench.
Charles E. "Chuck" Kinzer
On Monday, March 4, 2024 at 05:01:54 AM PST, Miket_NYC <mctaglieri@...> wrote:
Last week, I changed the undersized, crappy radiator in my kitchen for a bigger one that heats the room much better.? This involved undoing big threaded components that may not have been touched in half a century.
A tool that to some extent made the job possible was a 24" Crescent wrench I bought from Harbor Freight. It cost $33, which I thought was very reasonable considering the size. Here's a picture of my newly installed and painted radiator with the giant wrench on top of it.?
It may have been possible to get this plumbing apart with a small wrench and a cheater bar, but it wouldn't have been EASY, which it was with this wrench. (Also, taking heating equipment apart in the wintertime is a bit risky because if you screw up, the house may be cold for a long time).? I can't say any of us will ever find something on a minilathe that needs?a wrench this big, but I'll find other occasions to use it, and I bet you would too.
Mike Taglieri? Attachments:
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Re: Threading and Compound
Works fine for external threads, but a bit difficult on internal ones...
ralphie
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Re: Threading and Compound
Some material? will tear and a thread file is great or triangle file will clean up the threads.?
A die will have extra threading teeth for the clean up.
Dave
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The lazy way is to use a thread restoring file to refine the profile & improve the surface finish.
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Roy
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These big adjustable wrenches certainly have their place.? ?Used one to open an air compressor tank.
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