Re: Starrett merger/acquisition

#119163

It is very hard for a traditional U.S. company like Starrett, at one time existing mostly in the bubble of the U.S., to remain competitive once the manufacturing cmpetition went worldwide.

A very long time ago I got some business advice that, "If you do not obsolete yourself, somebody else will."

An example of this is Fluke which is a top-rated manufacturer of multimeters and such and are often "specified in" in large companies and government operations.? (And part of their business model is to support the same models for many years so that written procedures by companies and the gov don't have to be changed.)? They now have some of the meters manufactured in China.? They aren't real public about this.? However, they maintain VERY tight control over all steps of the manufacturing quality and the product is as sound as ever - so far as I know.

Many U.S. companies suffer from "corporate inertia" or suffer from not looking further into the future than trying to make the end of this quarter look good.? I don't know the details of why this merger occurred.

I don't know what MiddleGround Capital's plans are.? I know they acquired Castle Metals last year.? They also acquired Banner Industries and seem to be putting the two companies together, which will probably streamline things.? I suspect their plans for Starrett might be along similar lines.?

Charles E. "Chuck" Kinzer?

On Tuesday, March 19, 2024 at 10:21:18 AM PDT, davesmith1800 <davesmith1@...> wrote:

Most of my mics are Starrett?
Good to know.?

Dave?

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?Ralph Lehotsky 9:19am? ?

Many Starrett products manufactured before this date will undoubtedly become more valuable

Re: Starrett merger/acquisition

#119162

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Oh great…another ‘vulture capitalist’ strikes. Buy the company, load it up with debt (to you, of course) sell off anything of value, fire everybody, move on to the next one leaving an empty husk behind.

I have a handful of actual Starett tools…

More info

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On Mar 19, 2024, at 7:21 AM, Paul <soundguy.paul@...> wrote:

I heard about this yesterday and this makes me sad. One of th companies that I used to work for, went through a similar situation. Of the 350 employees all but 35 were “laid off“. They did not want our products or employees only the customers and name.?

RIP ? Starrett “Made in America”

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Bruce Johnson

The less a man knows about how sausages and laws are made, the easier it is to steal his vote and give him botulism.

Re: Starrett merger/acquisition

#119161

Most of my mics are Starrett?
Good to know.?

Dave?

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?Ralph Lehotsky 9:19am? ?

Many Starrett products manufactured before this date will undoubtedly become more valuable

Re: "welding"

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Johannes 9:20am? ?

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My quest is not direct to a 7x12, however, it is close to EDM ?

For next Christmas I have to connect many 2 mm iron strings together, in all directions

1) If you using EDM to remove tap you broke in the mini lathe it is related.?

2) Now if doing machine using EDM and not using a mini lathe it is not related?

I only want to tap removal that mini lathe broke

Dave

Re: "welding"

#119159

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Thanks Chris

Lot of nice things there in Ebay.

Problem is minimum 9 pages to chose from.

I think I will chose something over USD50.

/johannes

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From: chrisser via groups.io
Sent: tysdag 19. mars 2024 10:37
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [7x12MiniLathe] "welding"

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Could you use one of those welders made for welding wires onto Lithinum Ion cells?

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Search for "battery spot welder" on ebay or wherever

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On Tuesday, March 19th, 2024 at 12:20 PM, Johannes <johannes@...> wrote:

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My quest is not direct to a 7x12, however, it is close to EDM ?
For next Christmas I have to connect many 2 mm iron strings together, in all directions.
I can made 1 mm holes and screw or nail them together, I have done it on my protos.
Soldering is also an alternative, however, not my favorite.
The wires are in tension, so when I start soldering the second spot, the first (#¤%¤#)
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So I am asking for advice to shop a small “welder” for 2 mm iron wire. Only 500 “welding” connections.
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/johannes
Mexico
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PS this subject is total new for me.
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Re: "welding"

#119158

Could you use one of those welders made for welding wires onto Lithinum Ion cells?

Search for "battery spot welder" on ebay or wherever

On Tuesday, March 19th, 2024 at 12:20 PM, Johannes <johannes@...> wrote:

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My quest is not direct to a 7x12, however, it is close to EDM ?
For next Christmas I have to connect many 2 mm iron strings together, in all directions.
I can made 1 mm holes and screw or nail them together, I have done it on my protos.
Soldering is also an alternative, however, not my favorite.
The wires are in tension, so when I start soldering the second spot, the first (#¤%¤#)
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So I am asking for advice to shop a small “welder” for 2 mm iron wire. Only 500 “welding” connections.
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/johannes
Mexico
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PS this subject is total new for me.
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Re: Starrett merger/acquisition

#119157

As if they weren't already going for big bucks on ebay.

Sometimes the prices on the old stuff is higher than just buying new from Starrett.

On Tuesday, March 19th, 2024 at 12:19 PM, Ralph Lehotsky <ralphlehotsky@...> wrote:

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Many Starrett products manufactured before this date will undoubtedly become more valuable.

ralphie

"welding"

#119156

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My quest is not direct to a 7x12, however, it is close to EDM ?

For next Christmas I have to connect many 2 mm iron strings together, in all directions.

I can made 1 mm holes and screw or nail them together, I have done it on my protos.

Soldering is also an alternative, however, not my favorite.

The wires are in tension, so when I start soldering the second spot, the first (#¤%¤#)

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So I am asking for advice to shop a small “welder” for 2 mm iron wire. Only 500 “welding” connections.

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/johannes

Mexico

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PS this subject is total new for me.

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Re: Starrett merger/acquisition

#119155

Many Starrett products manufactured before this date will undoubtedly become more valuable.

ralphie

Re: Using nitric acid to remove broken taps or drills from aluminum

#119154

Peter Way

8:37am? ?

There are great EDM videos on YouTube. The circuit is simple

All I want EDM is for removing small taps that broke in the mini lathe.

I have seen simple manufacturer machines the using tap water just for removal of taps

Dave?

Re: An EDM for Tap removal

#119153

EDM maybe very old aka { Electrical discharge machining spark erosion }
The erosive effect of electrical discharges was first noted in 1770 by English physicist Joseph Priestley.

EDM was for machining around the 1940's . Before the 1940's they used sand / grit and ground down the part.??

I do not know about tap removal the first ad I found was in 1950's. It is downloaded section.??

Dave?

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Craig Hopewell

6:51am? ?

Good stuff.

There is a huge amount of technology out there.

I'm still in the age of simple machining and napkin design. No edm, CAD, mill power feed, CNC, etc. 8^)

Re: Using nitric acid to remove broken taps or drills from aluminum

#119152

There are great EDM videos on YouTube.? The circuit is simple.?

People are making machines out of 3D printers.? ?It seems to be 10% EDM process, 90% Not killing yourself.? ?If you work hard enough, you can get that pesky tap out and have a fabulous machining rig.

Re: Starrett merger/acquisition

#119151

I heard about this yesterday and this makes me sad. One of th companies that I used to work for, went through a similar situation. Of the 350 employees all but 35 were “laid off“. They did not want our products or employees only the customers and name.?

RIP ? Starrett “Made in America”

Re: An EDM for Tap removal

#119150

Good stuff.

There is a huge amount of technology out there.

I'm still in the age of simple machining and napkin design.? ?No edm, CAD, mill power feed, CNC, etc.? ?8^)
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Lone Tree, Colorado? ?USA

Re: Powered tapping

#119149

I done a lot of tapping using power.
Hundreds of thousands of tap holes.?
I used both drill press using a drum switch and tapping head.?

Dave?

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Ralph Lehotsky 8:21am? ?

I've not done any power tapping wit my mini-lathe, but I have with my mini-mill

Re: An EDM for Tap removal

#119148

Looks great

Dave?

Re: Using nitric acid to remove broken taps or drills from aluminum

#119147

Hi Bruce look into internet archives on the net there is so much info there.

Re: Using nitric acid to remove broken taps or drills from aluminum

#119146

As read you things in old magazines? that are new today. Maybe they read the old magazine too.?

I do not know why there not more written on EDM tap removal.
I have run a edm to remove broken bolts. It work great.?
The reason I never had one I could use a fluxcore welding and remove taps and bolts.?

Dave?

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Bruce J

9:58am? ?

It’s amazing to read through these old magazines, and realizing just how much the internet has displaced them in such a short time, and the fact that before Google Books, just reading through these old issues would be difficult or impossible for most people

An EDM for Tap removal

#119145

One of our group moderators, DrMico60, has built and then improved an EDM suitable for tap removal, see:

He provides enough info to allow building a modest cost unit which would remove broken taps or make holes in hard material like tool steel.

For tap removal a hollow eroding tool just large enough to break into the flutes of the tap will reduce the amount of? material eroded, speeding up the process.?

John

Re: Using nitric acid to remove broken taps or drills from aluminum

#119144

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It’s amazing to read through these old magazines, and realizing just how much the internet has displaced them in such a short time, and the fact that before Google Books, just reading through these old issues would be difficult or impossible for most people.

How many libraries have a complete archive of Popular Mechanics back to 1905? Let alone all the archived other periodicals there.?

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On Mar 18, 2024, at 8:56 AM, BuffaloJohn <johndurbetaki@...> wrote:

Interesting, the May 1950 issues is 314 pages - not a typo three hundred fourteen...

On Mon, Mar 18, 2024 at 7:17?AM Bruce J <bruce.desertrat@...> wrote:
Popular Mechanics has it’s full archive on Google Books free to read, and their indexes are pretty good:?

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Buffalo John

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Bruce Johnson

The less a man knows about how sausages and laws are made, the easier it is to steal his vote and give him botulism.