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Re: Rust prevention

 

I do use tri flow at times but that's it. To be honest I have about 15 differant chemicals that I use at any one point depending on need and how I feel. I have several favorites but still, mostly just how I feel that day.

george

On Thursday, March 28, 2024 at 02:39:06 PM PDT, Chris Albertson <albertson.chris@...> wrote:


I have some cans of bike chain lube. ? These are old ones I don¡¯t like to use on my bike but they have other uses. ?The formulations vary wildly. ?Some are wax-based some are oil with a solvent mixed on some have teflon or graphite. ??

A wax-based lube that has solvent mixed with it works well on tools. ?Just like on a chain, it can flow into the inside and then the solvent flashes off and there is a thin wax coating that does not attract dirt and is mostly water resistant.

The kind I like on my bike is very thin and does not last long, they say ¡°reapply every 200 miles¡±. Just this morning I cleaned an applied this stuff to a bunch of mini-pliers on the electronics workbench.

If you see some for sale try it.MUCH better then WD40 and about as easy to apply from a spray can.

On Mar 28, 2024, at 12:54?PM, gcvisalia@... wrote:

Yea, it still has its uses. Taking off labels and such, using as a lube? while sanding things and lube for cutting aluminum. Even then I'm suspect if it. Didnt seem to work as I was expecting. Organizing my shop or rather uncluttering the clutter and when I can, I may do a test on aluminum and other cutting fluids. The wd40 seemed to need more constant use to get a proper hole I was drilling. Maybe just me but there was a noticeable differance.

george

On Wednesday, March 27, 2024 at 10:16:55 PM PDT, Tony Smith <ajsmith1968@...> wrote:


WD40 is kerosene (or some other light mineral oil) with a bit of the magic sauce that¡¯s left behind when the kero flashes off.? It doesn¡¯t bond very well and so flakes off easily, hence the rust.

?

It works better than nothing.

?

Tony

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(¡­and that¡¯s why WD40 makes a good lubricant for cutting aluminium ¨C you¡¯re just spraying kerosene onto it.)

?
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From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of gcvisalia@...
Sent: Thursday, 28 March 2024 2:04 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [7x12MiniLathe] Rust prevention

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Wd40 ? Really ? To me it seems to accelerate rust. I have other chems that have been good but since using way oil, I have not gone back to them except for very short term protection.

?

george

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On Wednesday, March 27, 2024 at 03:28:17 PM PDT, Miket_NYC <mctaglieri@...> wrote:

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WD-40 is a sticky wax in a light petroleum carrier. When it dries, the carrier evaporates leaving the waxy coat on the surface. So it shouldn't be necessary to keep reapplying it.

?

Mike Taglieri?

On Tue, Mar 12, 2024, 11:28 PM Charles Kinzer <ckinzer@...> wrote:

Regarding the comment, "You just need to refresh the WD-40 before it evaporates.".

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That would very strongly suggest to me NOT to use something that evaporates for bare metal protection long term, or even short term.

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Charles E. "Chuck" Kinzer

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On Tuesday, March 12, 2024 at 08:21:07 PM PDT, mike allen <animal@...> wrote:

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??? There was a time that if we needed to use either on a diesel we would grab a can of WD instead of the quick start . We had a mechanic tell up it was better for the engine than the quick start . Now a days I seriously doubt ya could even get a diesel to pop on WD .

animal

On 3/12/24 7:55 PM, gcvisalia@... wrote:

Never been a fan of wd40. Though in the 70s I would spray our entire dirt bikes with it. Helped get the bikes clean later due to the hawaiian red clay dirt. But it also caused me to constantly check all the bolts as they would prematurely come loose. But other than that, not much use for it. Well, now for cutting aluminum.

?

george

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On Tuesday, March 12, 2024 at 06:49:56 PM PDT, Ralph Hulslander <rhulslander@...> wrote:

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You just need to refresh the WD-40 before it evaporates.

?

On Tue, Mar 12, 2024 at 2:15?AM davesmith1800 <davesmith1@...> wrote:

chrisser 1:16pm? ?

Realistically, it's outside. Essentially a barn with garage doors and a concrete floor

They do make a protective coating.
You use long term storage or over sea shipping works great?
But take to remove before the lathe can be used.?
The #4 waylube will last for 2 or 3 months in summer and winter upto 6 months before recovering.??
The upside to waylube is lathe ready to used.

Dave?

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Re: Rust prevention

Chris Albertson
 

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I have some cans of bike chain lube. ? These are old ones I don¡¯t like to use on my bike but they have other uses. ?The formulations vary wildly. ?Some are wax-based some are oil with a solvent mixed on some have teflon or graphite. ??

A wax-based lube that has solvent mixed with it works well on tools. ?Just like on a chain, it can flow into the inside and then the solvent flashes off and there is a thin wax coating that does not attract dirt and is mostly water resistant.

The kind I like on my bike is very thin and does not last long, they say ¡°reapply every 200 miles¡±. Just this morning I cleaned an applied this stuff to a bunch of mini-pliers on the electronics workbench.

If you see some for sale try it.MUCH better then WD40 and about as easy to apply from a spray can.

On Mar 28, 2024, at 12:54?PM, gcvisalia@... wrote:

Yea, it still has its uses. Taking off labels and such, using as a lube? while sanding things and lube for cutting aluminum. Even then I'm suspect if it. Didnt seem to work as I was expecting. Organizing my shop or rather uncluttering the clutter and when I can, I may do a test on aluminum and other cutting fluids. The wd40 seemed to need more constant use to get a proper hole I was drilling. Maybe just me but there was a noticeable differance.

george

On Wednesday, March 27, 2024 at 10:16:55 PM PDT, Tony Smith <ajsmith1968@...> wrote:


WD40 is kerosene (or some other light mineral oil) with a bit of the magic sauce that¡¯s left behind when the kero flashes off.? It doesn¡¯t bond very well and so flakes off easily, hence the rust.

?

It works better than nothing.

?

Tony

?

(¡­and that¡¯s why WD40 makes a good lubricant for cutting aluminium ¨C you¡¯re just spraying kerosene onto it.)

?
?

From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of gcvisalia@...
Sent: Thursday, 28 March 2024 2:04 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [7x12MiniLathe] Rust prevention

?

Wd40 ? Really ? To me it seems to accelerate rust. I have other chems that have been good but since using way oil, I have not gone back to them except for very short term protection.

?

george

?

On Wednesday, March 27, 2024 at 03:28:17 PM PDT, Miket_NYC <mctaglieri@...> wrote:

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WD-40 is a sticky wax in a light petroleum carrier. When it dries, the carrier evaporates leaving the waxy coat on the surface. So it shouldn't be necessary to keep reapplying it.

?

Mike Taglieri?

On Tue, Mar 12, 2024, 11:28 PM Charles Kinzer <ckinzer@...> wrote:

Regarding the comment, "You just need to refresh the WD-40 before it evaporates.".

?

That would very strongly suggest to me NOT to use something that evaporates for bare metal protection long term, or even short term.

?

Charles E. "Chuck" Kinzer

?

On Tuesday, March 12, 2024 at 08:21:07 PM PDT, mike allen <animal@...> wrote:

?
?

??? There was a time that if we needed to use either on a diesel we would grab a can of WD instead of the quick start . We had a mechanic tell up it was better for the engine than the quick start . Now a days I seriously doubt ya could even get a diesel to pop on WD .

animal

On 3/12/24 7:55 PM, gcvisalia@... wrote:

Never been a fan of wd40. Though in the 70s I would spray our entire dirt bikes with it. Helped get the bikes clean later due to the hawaiian red clay dirt. But it also caused me to constantly check all the bolts as they would prematurely come loose. But other than that, not much use for it. Well, now for cutting aluminum.

?

george

?

On Tuesday, March 12, 2024 at 06:49:56 PM PDT, Ralph Hulslander <rhulslander@...> wrote:

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?

You just need to refresh the WD-40 before it evaporates.

?

On Tue, Mar 12, 2024 at 2:15?AM davesmith1800 <davesmith1@...> wrote:

chrisser 1:16pm? ?

Realistically, it's outside. Essentially a barn with garage doors and a concrete floor

They do make a protective coating.
You use long term storage or over sea shipping works great?
But take to remove before the lathe can be used.?
The #4 waylube will last for 2 or 3 months in summer and winter upto 6 months before recovering.??
The upside to waylube is lathe ready to used.

Dave?

?




Re: Rust prevention

 

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I started buying WD by the gallons years ago & have several Zep spray bottles laying here & there . I see that Harbor has brought back the re-fillable & pressurize spray bottles

I just checked & HF is sittin at 35.99 for a gallon while Homedepot is at 30.18 for a gallon can .

animal

On 3/28/24 2:14 PM, gcvisalia@... wrote:

Yea, I admit that wd40 is cheap and does a great job on sanding or generally getting rid of rust. I have better stuff than wd40 but would not use those liberally for general rust removal . A basic can of wd40 usually lasts me a year or two. So for sure, I'm not saying it's not usefull.?

george

On Thursday, March 28, 2024 at 02:08:25 PM PDT, mike allen <animal@...> wrote:


??? Besides for cutting aluminum my other use if rust removal on flat surfaces . I have one of those old Black & Decker 1/2 sheet sander I take a scotch pad & spray it liberally with WD40 & then put it on the part I'm working on & put the sander pad directly on the scotch pad & go to town . Works pretty good & saves some wear & tear on the old joints . When I'm done I wipe the material down & give it a coat of oil . I buy the green scotch pads at Dollar Tree I think 4 or 5 in a pack for a buck . Strange but the wife comes out & goes through my stash looking for those pads all the time .

animal

On 3/28/24 12:54 PM, gcvisalia@... wrote:
Yea, it still has its uses. Taking off labels and such, using as a lube? while sanding things and lube for cutting aluminum. Even then I'm suspect if it. Didnt seem to work as I was expecting. Organizing my shop or rather uncluttering the clutter and when I can, I may do a test on aluminum and other cutting fluids. The wd40 seemed to need more constant use to get a proper hole I was drilling. Maybe just me but there was a noticeable differance.

george

On Wednesday, March 27, 2024 at 10:16:55 PM PDT, Tony Smith <ajsmith1968@...> wrote:


WD40 is kerosene (or some other light mineral oil) with a bit of the magic sauce that¡¯s left behind when the kero flashes off.? It doesn¡¯t bond very well and so flakes off easily, hence the rust.

?

It works better than nothing.

?

Tony

?

(¡­and that¡¯s why WD40 makes a good lubricant for cutting aluminium ¨C you¡¯re just spraying kerosene onto it.)

?

?

From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of gcvisalia@...
Sent: Thursday, 28 March 2024 2:04 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [7x12MiniLathe] Rust prevention

?

Wd40 ? Really ? To me it seems to accelerate rust. I have other chems that have been good but since using way oil, I have not gone back to them except for very short term protection.

?

george

?

On Wednesday, March 27, 2024 at 03:28:17 PM PDT, Miket_NYC <mctaglieri@...> wrote:

?

?

WD-40 is a sticky wax in a light petroleum carrier. When it dries, the carrier evaporates leaving the waxy coat on the surface. So it shouldn't be necessary to keep reapplying it.

?

Mike Taglieri?

On Tue, Mar 12, 2024, 11:28 PM Charles Kinzer <ckinzer@...> wrote:

Regarding the comment, "You just need to refresh the WD-40 before it evaporates.".

?

That would very strongly suggest to me NOT to use something that evaporates for bare metal protection long term, or even short term.

?

Charles E. "Chuck" Kinzer

?

On Tuesday, March 12, 2024 at 08:21:07 PM PDT, mike allen <animal@...> wrote:

?

?

??? There was a time that if we needed to use either on a diesel we would grab a can of WD instead of the quick start . We had a mechanic tell up it was better for the engine than the quick start . Now a days I seriously doubt ya could even get a diesel to pop on WD .

animal

On 3/12/24 7:55 PM, gcvisalia@... wrote:

Never been a fan of wd40. Though in the 70s I would spray our entire dirt bikes with it. Helped get the bikes clean later due to the hawaiian red clay dirt. But it also caused me to constantly check all the bolts as they would prematurely come loose. But other than that, not much use for it. Well, now for cutting aluminum.

?

george

?

On Tuesday, March 12, 2024 at 06:49:56 PM PDT, Ralph Hulslander <rhulslander@...> wrote:

?

?

You just need to refresh the WD-40 before it evaporates.

?

On Tue, Mar 12, 2024 at 2:15?AM davesmith1800 <davesmith1@...> wrote:

chrisser 1:16pm? ?

Realistically, it's outside. Essentially a barn with garage doors and a concrete floor

They do make a protective coating.
You use long term storage or over sea shipping works great?
But take to remove before the lathe can be used.?
The #4 waylube will last for 2 or 3 months in summer and winter upto 6 months before recovering.??
The upside to waylube is lathe ready to used.

Dave?

?


Re: Rust prevention

 

Yea, I admit that wd40 is cheap and does a great job on sanding or generally getting rid of rust. I have better stuff than wd40 but would not use those liberally for general rust removal . A basic can of wd40 usually lasts me a year or two. So for sure, I'm not saying it's not usefull.?

george

On Thursday, March 28, 2024 at 02:08:25 PM PDT, mike allen <animal@...> wrote:


??? Besides for cutting aluminum my other use if rust removal on flat surfaces . I have one of those old Black & Decker 1/2 sheet sander I take a scotch pad & spray it liberally with WD40 & then put it on the part I'm working on & put the sander pad directly on the scotch pad & go to town . Works pretty good & saves some wear & tear on the old joints . When I'm done I wipe the material down & give it a coat of oil . I buy the green scotch pads at Dollar Tree I think 4 or 5 in a pack for a buck . Strange but the wife comes out & goes through my stash looking for those pads all the time .

animal

On 3/28/24 12:54 PM, gcvisalia@... wrote:
Yea, it still has its uses. Taking off labels and such, using as a lube? while sanding things and lube for cutting aluminum. Even then I'm suspect if it. Didnt seem to work as I was expecting. Organizing my shop or rather uncluttering the clutter and when I can, I may do a test on aluminum and other cutting fluids. The wd40 seemed to need more constant use to get a proper hole I was drilling. Maybe just me but there was a noticeable differance.

george

On Wednesday, March 27, 2024 at 10:16:55 PM PDT, Tony Smith <ajsmith1968@...> wrote:


WD40 is kerosene (or some other light mineral oil) with a bit of the magic sauce that¡¯s left behind when the kero flashes off.? It doesn¡¯t bond very well and so flakes off easily, hence the rust.

?

It works better than nothing.

?

Tony

?

(¡­and that¡¯s why WD40 makes a good lubricant for cutting aluminium ¨C you¡¯re just spraying kerosene onto it.)

?

?

From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of gcvisalia@...
Sent: Thursday, 28 March 2024 2:04 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [7x12MiniLathe] Rust prevention

?

Wd40 ? Really ? To me it seems to accelerate rust. I have other chems that have been good but since using way oil, I have not gone back to them except for very short term protection.

?

george

?

On Wednesday, March 27, 2024 at 03:28:17 PM PDT, Miket_NYC <mctaglieri@...> wrote:

?

?

WD-40 is a sticky wax in a light petroleum carrier. When it dries, the carrier evaporates leaving the waxy coat on the surface. So it shouldn't be necessary to keep reapplying it.

?

Mike Taglieri?

On Tue, Mar 12, 2024, 11:28 PM Charles Kinzer <ckinzer@...> wrote:

Regarding the comment, "You just need to refresh the WD-40 before it evaporates.".

?

That would very strongly suggest to me NOT to use something that evaporates for bare metal protection long term, or even short term.

?

Charles E. "Chuck" Kinzer

?

On Tuesday, March 12, 2024 at 08:21:07 PM PDT, mike allen <animal@...> wrote:

?

?

??? There was a time that if we needed to use either on a diesel we would grab a can of WD instead of the quick start . We had a mechanic tell up it was better for the engine than the quick start . Now a days I seriously doubt ya could even get a diesel to pop on WD .

animal

On 3/12/24 7:55 PM, gcvisalia@... wrote:

Never been a fan of wd40. Though in the 70s I would spray our entire dirt bikes with it. Helped get the bikes clean later due to the hawaiian red clay dirt. But it also caused me to constantly check all the bolts as they would prematurely come loose. But other than that, not much use for it. Well, now for cutting aluminum.

?

george

?

On Tuesday, March 12, 2024 at 06:49:56 PM PDT, Ralph Hulslander <rhulslander@...> wrote:

?

?

You just need to refresh the WD-40 before it evaporates.

?

On Tue, Mar 12, 2024 at 2:15?AM davesmith1800 <davesmith1@...> wrote:

chrisser 1:16pm? ?

Realistically, it's outside. Essentially a barn with garage doors and a concrete floor

They do make a protective coating.
You use long term storage or over sea shipping works great?
But take to remove before the lathe can be used.?
The #4 waylube will last for 2 or 3 months in summer and winter upto 6 months before recovering.??
The upside to waylube is lathe ready to used.

Dave?

?


Re: Rust prevention

 

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??? Besides for cutting aluminum my other use if rust removal on flat surfaces . I have one of those old Black & Decker 1/2 sheet sander I take a scotch pad & spray it liberally with WD40 & then put it on the part I'm working on & put the sander pad directly on the scotch pad & go to town . Works pretty good & saves some wear & tear on the old joints . When I'm done I wipe the material down & give it a coat of oil . I buy the green scotch pads at Dollar Tree I think 4 or 5 in a pack for a buck . Strange but the wife comes out & goes through my stash looking for those pads all the time .

animal

On 3/28/24 12:54 PM, gcvisalia@... wrote:

Yea, it still has its uses. Taking off labels and such, using as a lube? while sanding things and lube for cutting aluminum. Even then I'm suspect if it. Didnt seem to work as I was expecting. Organizing my shop or rather uncluttering the clutter and when I can, I may do a test on aluminum and other cutting fluids. The wd40 seemed to need more constant use to get a proper hole I was drilling. Maybe just me but there was a noticeable differance.

george

On Wednesday, March 27, 2024 at 10:16:55 PM PDT, Tony Smith <ajsmith1968@...> wrote:


WD40 is kerosene (or some other light mineral oil) with a bit of the magic sauce that¡¯s left behind when the kero flashes off.? It doesn¡¯t bond very well and so flakes off easily, hence the rust.

?

It works better than nothing.

?

Tony

?

(¡­and that¡¯s why WD40 makes a good lubricant for cutting aluminium ¨C you¡¯re just spraying kerosene onto it.)

?

?

From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of gcvisalia@...
Sent: Thursday, 28 March 2024 2:04 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [7x12MiniLathe] Rust prevention

?

Wd40 ? Really ? To me it seems to accelerate rust. I have other chems that have been good but since using way oil, I have not gone back to them except for very short term protection.

?

george

?

On Wednesday, March 27, 2024 at 03:28:17 PM PDT, Miket_NYC <mctaglieri@...> wrote:

?

?

WD-40 is a sticky wax in a light petroleum carrier. When it dries, the carrier evaporates leaving the waxy coat on the surface. So it shouldn't be necessary to keep reapplying it.

?

Mike Taglieri?

On Tue, Mar 12, 2024, 11:28 PM Charles Kinzer <ckinzer@...> wrote:

Regarding the comment, "You just need to refresh the WD-40 before it evaporates.".

?

That would very strongly suggest to me NOT to use something that evaporates for bare metal protection long term, or even short term.

?

Charles E. "Chuck" Kinzer

?

On Tuesday, March 12, 2024 at 08:21:07 PM PDT, mike allen <animal@...> wrote:

?

?

??? There was a time that if we needed to use either on a diesel we would grab a can of WD instead of the quick start . We had a mechanic tell up it was better for the engine than the quick start . Now a days I seriously doubt ya could even get a diesel to pop on WD .

animal

On 3/12/24 7:55 PM, gcvisalia@... wrote:

Never been a fan of wd40. Though in the 70s I would spray our entire dirt bikes with it. Helped get the bikes clean later due to the hawaiian red clay dirt. But it also caused me to constantly check all the bolts as they would prematurely come loose. But other than that, not much use for it. Well, now for cutting aluminum.

?

george

?

On Tuesday, March 12, 2024 at 06:49:56 PM PDT, Ralph Hulslander <rhulslander@...> wrote:

?

?

You just need to refresh the WD-40 before it evaporates.

?

On Tue, Mar 12, 2024 at 2:15?AM davesmith1800 <davesmith1@...> wrote:

chrisser 1:16pm? ?

Realistically, it's outside. Essentially a barn with garage doors and a concrete floor

They do make a protective coating.
You use long term storage or over sea shipping works great?
But take to remove before the lathe can be used.?
The #4 waylube will last for 2 or 3 months in summer and winter upto 6 months before recovering.??
The upside to waylube is lathe ready to used.

Dave?

?


Re: Rust prevention

 

Yea, it still has its uses. Taking off labels and such, using as a lube? while sanding things and lube for cutting aluminum. Even then I'm suspect if it. Didnt seem to work as I was expecting. Organizing my shop or rather uncluttering the clutter and when I can, I may do a test on aluminum and other cutting fluids. The wd40 seemed to need more constant use to get a proper hole I was drilling. Maybe just me but there was a noticeable differance.

george

On Wednesday, March 27, 2024 at 10:16:55 PM PDT, Tony Smith <ajsmith1968@...> wrote:


WD40 is kerosene (or some other light mineral oil) with a bit of the magic sauce that¡¯s left behind when the kero flashes off.? It doesn¡¯t bond very well and so flakes off easily, hence the rust.

?

It works better than nothing.

?

Tony

?

(¡­and that¡¯s why WD40 makes a good lubricant for cutting aluminium ¨C you¡¯re just spraying kerosene onto it.)

?

?

From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of gcvisalia@...
Sent: Thursday, 28 March 2024 2:04 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [7x12MiniLathe] Rust prevention

?

Wd40 ? Really ? To me it seems to accelerate rust. I have other chems that have been good but since using way oil, I have not gone back to them except for very short term protection.

?

george

?

On Wednesday, March 27, 2024 at 03:28:17 PM PDT, Miket_NYC <mctaglieri@...> wrote:

?

?

WD-40 is a sticky wax in a light petroleum carrier. When it dries, the carrier evaporates leaving the waxy coat on the surface. So it shouldn't be necessary to keep reapplying it.

?

Mike Taglieri?

On Tue, Mar 12, 2024, 11:28 PM Charles Kinzer <ckinzer@...> wrote:

Regarding the comment, "You just need to refresh the WD-40 before it evaporates.".

?

That would very strongly suggest to me NOT to use something that evaporates for bare metal protection long term, or even short term.

?

Charles E. "Chuck" Kinzer

?

On Tuesday, March 12, 2024 at 08:21:07 PM PDT, mike allen <animal@...> wrote:

?

?

??? There was a time that if we needed to use either on a diesel we would grab a can of WD instead of the quick start . We had a mechanic tell up it was better for the engine than the quick start . Now a days I seriously doubt ya could even get a diesel to pop on WD .

animal

On 3/12/24 7:55 PM, gcvisalia@... wrote:

Never been a fan of wd40. Though in the 70s I would spray our entire dirt bikes with it. Helped get the bikes clean later due to the hawaiian red clay dirt. But it also caused me to constantly check all the bolts as they would prematurely come loose. But other than that, not much use for it. Well, now for cutting aluminum.

?

george

?

On Tuesday, March 12, 2024 at 06:49:56 PM PDT, Ralph Hulslander <rhulslander@...> wrote:

?

?

You just need to refresh the WD-40 before it evaporates.

?

On Tue, Mar 12, 2024 at 2:15?AM davesmith1800 <davesmith1@...> wrote:

chrisser 1:16pm? ?

Realistically, it's outside. Essentially a barn with garage doors and a concrete floor

They do make a protective coating.
You use long term storage or over sea shipping works great?
But take to remove before the lathe can be used.?
The #4 waylube will last for 2 or 3 months in summer and winter upto 6 months before recovering.??
The upside to waylube is lathe ready to used.

Dave?

?


Re: New trav-a-dial

 

It runs a hard knurled wheel against the lathe way embossing the pattern. This acts like a rack with the knurled wheel as the pinion driving a chain of gears to the dial. A friend has one and it works flawlessly! When I wished?to own one they were $500, way out of my price range!? ?Bill in Boulder


On Thu, Mar 28, 2024 at 11:52?AM mike allen <animal@...> wrote:

there's probably thousands of these out there that have been in use for years . I don't know why they stopped making them in the first place for how popular they are . But in today's world if it ain't fancy & in color it's a deal breaker for some . The folks that have them want to keep them . I'm interested to see? what the price will be .

animal

On 3/28/24 10:01 AM, Charles Kinzer wrote:
Yes.? It is amazing how the manufacturer fails to show how it works and what it is for.

It has a wheel inside (and a lot of gears) such that the wheel runs along a surface on your machine and the position is shown.? The mechanical knob is in tenths of inches up to six inches of travel (and then repeats), the dial with the needle is in thousandths.? Both the mechanical knob and the dial can be zeroed.? So, it shows how far something has traveled, such as a lathe saddle.? Not unlike a plunger style dial indicator in function - but with a lot more range like a DRO would have.

A concern with this is that there is an opening in the housing for the wheel to protrude a little to contact the machine surface (such as the front of a way) and there is the risk of swarf finding its way inside which isn't good.

Here is a YouTube on it.




Charles E. "Chuck" Kinzer

On Thursday, March 28, 2024 at 09:48:13 AM PDT, <thomasfkeefe@...> wrote:


I looked at the link, but cannot figure out what it does. Any help?

Tom


Re: New trav-a-dial

 

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there's probably thousands of these out there that have been in use for years . I don't know why they stopped making them in the first place for how popular they are . But in today's world if it ain't fancy & in color it's a deal breaker for some . The folks that have them want to keep them . I'm interested to see? what the price will be .

animal

On 3/28/24 10:01 AM, Charles Kinzer wrote:

Yes.? It is amazing how the manufacturer fails to show how it works and what it is for.

It has a wheel inside (and a lot of gears) such that the wheel runs along a surface on your machine and the position is shown.? The mechanical knob is in tenths of inches up to six inches of travel (and then repeats), the dial with the needle is in thousandths.? Both the mechanical knob and the dial can be zeroed.? So, it shows how far something has traveled, such as a lathe saddle.? Not unlike a plunger style dial indicator in function - but with a lot more range like a DRO would have.

A concern with this is that there is an opening in the housing for the wheel to protrude a little to contact the machine surface (such as the front of a way) and there is the risk of swarf finding its way inside which isn't good.

Here is a YouTube on it.




Charles E. "Chuck" Kinzer

On Thursday, March 28, 2024 at 09:48:13 AM PDT, <thomasfkeefe@...> wrote:


I looked at the link, but cannot figure out what it does. Any help?

Tom


Re: New trav-a-dial

 

It shows how much one part of a machine has moved relative to another part.? Same thing as a DRO, only purely mechanical

Have you ever seen and accidente investigator use one of those wheels that has a distance counter that they roll along the pavement to measure distance?? It is a function like that.? Only much more accurate.

Charles E. "Chuck" Kinzer?

On Thursday, March 28, 2024 at 10:41:35 AM PDT, davesmith1800 <davesmith1@...> wrote:


@ThomasKeefe
9:48am? ?
I looked at the link, but cannot figure out what it does. Any help

I did not the company was alive.

Dave?


Re: New trav-a-dial

 

@ThomasKeefe
9:48am? ?
I looked at the link, but cannot figure out what it does. Any help

I did not the company was alive.

Dave?


Re: New trav-a-dial

 

Yes.? It is amazing how the manufacturer fails to show how it works and what it is for.

It has a wheel inside (and a lot of gears) such that the wheel runs along a surface on your machine and the position is shown.? The mechanical knob is in tenths of inches up to six inches of travel (and then repeats), the dial with the needle is in thousandths.? Both the mechanical knob and the dial can be zeroed.? So, it shows how far something has traveled, such as a lathe saddle.? Not unlike a plunger style dial indicator in function - but with a lot more range like a DRO would have.

A concern with this is that there is an opening in the housing for the wheel to protrude a little to contact the machine surface (such as the front of a way) and there is the risk of swarf finding its way inside which isn't good.

Here is a YouTube on it.




Charles E. "Chuck" Kinzer

On Thursday, March 28, 2024 at 09:48:13 AM PDT, <thomasfkeefe@...> wrote:


I looked at the link, but cannot figure out what it does. Any help?

Tom


Re: New trav-a-dial

 

This video is a decent summary



On Thursday, March 28th, 2024 at 12:48 PM, thomasfkeefe@... <thomasfkeefe@...> wrote:

I looked at the link, but cannot figure out what it does. Any help?

Tom


Re: New trav-a-dial

 

I looked at the link, but cannot figure out what it does. Any help?

Tom


Re: New trav-a-dial

 

I agree
They have new model is coming out.
Could not find any data?

Dave?


Re: New trav-a-dial

 

There are several used ones on ebay.? Interesting little device.



On Thursday, March 28th, 2024 at 8:14 AM, Craig Hopewell via groups.io <cch80124@...> wrote:

Interesting - surprised it's an analog device.? ?A digital readout variant would likely sell well.

I added one to the cart to see if the price came up, but only saw "Available on backorder".
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Lone Tree, Colorado? ?USA


Re: New trav-a-dial

 

Interesting - surprised it's an analog device.? ?A digital readout variant would likely sell well.

I added one to the cart to see if the price came up, but only saw "Available on backorder".
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Lone Tree, Colorado? ?USA


Re: Rust prevention

 

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WD40 is kerosene (or some other light mineral oil) with a bit of the magic sauce that¡¯s left behind when the kero flashes off.? It doesn¡¯t bond very well and so flakes off easily, hence the rust.

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It works better than nothing.

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Tony

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(¡­and that¡¯s why WD40 makes a good lubricant for cutting aluminium ¨C you¡¯re just spraying kerosene onto it.)

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From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of gcvisalia@...
Sent: Thursday, 28 March 2024 2:04 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [7x12MiniLathe] Rust prevention

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Wd40 ? Really ? To me it seems to accelerate rust. I have other chems that have been good but since using way oil, I have not gone back to them except for very short term protection.

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george

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On Wednesday, March 27, 2024 at 03:28:17 PM PDT, Miket_NYC <mctaglieri@...> wrote:

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WD-40 is a sticky wax in a light petroleum carrier. When it dries, the carrier evaporates leaving the waxy coat on the surface. So it shouldn't be necessary to keep reapplying it.

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Mike Taglieri?

On Tue, Mar 12, 2024, 11:28 PM Charles Kinzer <ckinzer@...> wrote:

Regarding the comment, "You just need to refresh the WD-40 before it evaporates.".

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That would very strongly suggest to me NOT to use something that evaporates for bare metal protection long term, or even short term.

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Charles E. "Chuck" Kinzer

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On Tuesday, March 12, 2024 at 08:21:07 PM PDT, mike allen <animal@...> wrote:

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??? There was a time that if we needed to use either on a diesel we would grab a can of WD instead of the quick start . We had a mechanic tell up it was better for the engine than the quick start . Now a days I seriously doubt ya could even get a diesel to pop on WD .

animal

On 3/12/24 7:55 PM, gcvisalia@... wrote:

Never been a fan of wd40. Though in the 70s I would spray our entire dirt bikes with it. Helped get the bikes clean later due to the hawaiian red clay dirt. But it also caused me to constantly check all the bolts as they would prematurely come loose. But other than that, not much use for it. Well, now for cutting aluminum.

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george

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On Tuesday, March 12, 2024 at 06:49:56 PM PDT, Ralph Hulslander <rhulslander@...> wrote:

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You just need to refresh the WD-40 before it evaporates.

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On Tue, Mar 12, 2024 at 2:15?AM davesmith1800 <davesmith1@...> wrote:

chrisser 1:16pm? ?

Realistically, it's outside. Essentially a barn with garage doors and a concrete floor

They do make a protective coating.
You use long term storage or over sea shipping works great?
But take to remove before the lathe can be used.?
The #4 waylube will last for 2 or 3 months in summer and winter upto 6 months before recovering.??
The upside to waylube is lathe ready to used.

Dave?

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Re: New trav-a-dial

 

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Their pretty vague about it .

animal

On 3/27/24 9:48 PM, davesmith1800 wrote:



Dave?


New trav-a-dial

 



Dave?


Re: Rust prevention

 

Wd40 ? Really ? To me it seems to accelerate rust. I have other chems that have been good but since using way oil, I have not gone back to them except for very short term protection.

george

On Wednesday, March 27, 2024 at 03:28:17 PM PDT, Miket_NYC <mctaglieri@...> wrote:


WD-40 is a sticky wax in a light petroleum carrier. When it dries, the carrier evaporates leaving the waxy coat on the surface. So it shouldn't be necessary to keep reapplying it.

Mike Taglieri?


On Tue, Mar 12, 2024, 11:28 PM Charles Kinzer <ckinzer@...> wrote:
Regarding the comment, "You just need to refresh the WD-40 before it evaporates.".

That would very strongly suggest to me NOT to use something that evaporates for bare metal protection long term, or even short term.

Charles E. "Chuck" Kinzer

On Tuesday, March 12, 2024 at 08:21:07 PM PDT, mike allen <animal@...> wrote:


??? There was a time that if we needed to use either on a diesel we would grab a can of WD instead of the quick start . We had a mechanic tell up it was better for the engine than the quick start . Now a days I seriously doubt ya could even get a diesel to pop on WD .

animal

On 3/12/24 7:55 PM, gcvisalia@... wrote:
Never been a fan of wd40. Though in the 70s I would spray our entire dirt bikes with it. Helped get the bikes clean later due to the hawaiian red clay dirt. But it also caused me to constantly check all the bolts as they would prematurely come loose. But other than that, not much use for it. Well, now for cutting aluminum.

george

On Tuesday, March 12, 2024 at 06:49:56 PM PDT, Ralph Hulslander <rhulslander@...> wrote:


You just need to refresh the WD-40 before it evaporates.

On Tue, Mar 12, 2024 at 2:15?AM davesmith1800 <davesmith1@...> wrote:
chrisser 1:16pm? ?
Realistically, it's outside. Essentially a barn with garage doors and a concrete floor
They do make a protective coating.
You use long term storage or over sea shipping works great?
But take to remove before the lathe can be used.?
The #4 waylube will last for 2 or 3 months in summer and winter upto 6 months before recovering.??
The upside to waylube is lathe ready to used.

Dave?
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