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Re: Digital Electronic Vernier Caliper

 

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??? CFL's are great for makin noise , but so are some of the import LED's too . I've seen a couple folks that have gotten? a single AA? or maybe it was a AAA battery holder & solder the leads to the battery contacts on the caliper ( digital ) & then double stick tape or some other method of mounting the battery holder to the caliper . Makes it real easy to remove the battery . a lot of the cheapo's don't turn off when the power switch is used , they just go to sleep . I bought my batteries for these calipers at the Dollar tree for years & years 4 for a buck . I think their up to the 5 buck mark? for 4 these days .

animal

On 12/8/24 10:58 AM, Johannes wrote:

Hi WAM
Maybe !!!!"
I just changed my roof lamp from a low Watt CFL to "150 W" LED.
I will test to morrow.

Maybe I still can get an old Edison lamp? It will also keep my workshop warm also? ?

/johannes



From: [email protected] <[email protected]> on behalf of Johannes <johannes@...>
Sent: Sunday, December 8, 2024 10:46
To: [email protected] <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: [7x12MiniLathe] Digital Electronic Vernier Caliper
?
"Chuck"
Thanks, you are absolutely correct.
I have all 3: vernier, dial, and digital.
Thanks for "pinching" my ear.

/Johannes?


From: [email protected] <[email protected]> on behalf of Charles Devore via groups.io <Claremont5@...>
Sent: Sunday, December 8, 2024 10:32
To: [email protected] <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: [7x12MiniLathe] Digital Electronic Vernier Caliper
?
replace the battery

In a message dated 12/8/2024 10:17:08 AM Pacific Standard Time, ckinzer@... writes:
?
?
I am more likely to suspect the calipers than interference.? Especially if they are the extremely inexpensive ones.
?
But it would be easy enough to drive the calipers a distance away from any electrical transmission source and see if they magically start working.
?
I have some of the low-cost digital calipers and mine have a tendency to skip sometimes and suddenly be 0.2 or 0.4 inches off or something) and also?
?
I finally bought two Mitutoyo digital calipers, 4 inch and 6 inches.? NO problems - ever.? Yes, they cost a bit.? In the long run, I think a better value.? I also have some dial calipers I sometimes use.
?
And just to be pedantic, if it is a digital caliper, then it is not a vernier.? Those are two types of calipers.? One has a digital scale.? The other a vernier (where you line up physical marks to read accurately).? Although many people still include the word "vernier" even if it doesn't fit - even listings for sale.? You have vernier, dial, and digital.
?
Charles E. "Chuck" Kinzer
?
On Sunday, December 8, 2024 at 09:57:25 AM PST, Johannes <johannes@...> wrote:
?
?
I can not work without many "Digital Electronic Vernier Caliper" in my workshop.
However, they are always hiding them self when I am doing my job.
Lately I have discovered that they are missing the numbers on the display.
Both old and new ones.
Suddenly the numbers are being negative or shutting down.
I am blaming a Comunicacion tower not far?from the building.
?
Someone's that has a good advice for me?
?
Best from
Johannes
?



Re: Digital Electronic Vernier Caliper

 

I've found that the DROs on my mill become sensitive to electromagnetic interference when their batteries start to go flat.? So yeah, try replacing the batteries in? your affected digital calipers.


Re: Digital Electronic Vernier Caliper

 

We were doing FCC testing on one of our Large computers @ 1984-85 .
One machine sailed right through & the 2nd after lunch started having
problems , we put foil everywhere we could aloft with steel braid? with
the rubber on the inside . Finally my boss asks me if the lights were on
during the morning test & I said I was pretty sure they were not on . He
goes over to the panel & hits every breaker that said lites & boom
things got much better . He told the guy " I'm not paying you $ 125.00 a
hr to find out you have bad ballast's . Those were the old 8' tubes with
the 2 small pins on each side? HO's they were called back then .

animal

On 12/8/24 10:42 AM, WAM via groups.io wrote:
Interesting vid I did years ago showing the effect of a CFL light bulb
(the curly fluorescent ones before LED replacements) and the EMI
interference it causes on a plastic caliper




LED lamps can be just as bad.? The SMPS supplies can put out quite an
amount if EMI:
Again - from years ago:

that's a TEK 1.8GHz analog spectrum analyzer

If you take something like an RF Explorer or one of those cheap
CN-made spectrum analyzers into a place like LOWE's or Home Depot's
out motion activated light aisle, watch the RF jump from about 1- 200
MHz...?? nasty.






On 12/8/2024 1:16 PM, Charles Kinzer via groups.io wrote:
? I am more likely to suspect the calipers than interference.?
Especially if they are the extremely inexpensive ones.
But it would be easy enough to drive the calipers a distance away
from any electrical transmission source and see if they magically
start working.
I have some of the low-cost digital calipers and mine have a tendency
to skip sometimes and suddenly be 0.2 or 0.4 inches off or something)
and also
I finally bought two Mitutoyo digital calipers, 4 inch and 6 inches.?
NO problems - ever.? Yes, they cost a bit.? In the long run, I think
a better value.? I also have some dial calipers I sometimes use.
And just to be pedantic, if it is a digital caliper, then it is not a
vernier.? Those are two types of calipers.? One has a digital scale.?
The other a vernier (where you line up physical marks to read
accurately).? Although many people still include the word "vernier"
even if it doesn't fit - even listings for sale.? You have vernier,
dial, and digital.
Charles E. "Chuck" Kinzer
???? On Sunday, December 8, 2024 at 09:57:25 AM PST, Johannes
<johannes@...> wrote:
? ?? #yiv3669264674 P {margin-top:0;margin-bottom:0;}I can not work
without many "Digital Electronic Vernier Caliper" in my
workshop.However, they are always hiding them self when I am doing my
job.Lately I have discovered that they are missing the numbers on the
display.Both old and new ones.Suddenly the numbers are being negative
or shutting down.I am blaming a Comunicacion tower not far?from the
building.
Someone's that has a good advice for me?
Best fromJohannes











Re: Digital Electronic Vernier Caliper

 

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Hi WAM
Maybe !!!!"
I just changed my roof lamp from a low Watt CFL to "150 W" LED.
I will test to morrow.

Maybe I still can get an old Edison lamp? It will also keep my workshop warm also? ?

/johannes



From: [email protected] <[email protected]> on behalf of Johannes <johannes@...>
Sent: Sunday, December 8, 2024 10:46
To: [email protected] <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: [7x12MiniLathe] Digital Electronic Vernier Caliper
?
"Chuck"
Thanks, you are absolutely correct.
I have all 3: vernier, dial, and digital.
Thanks for "pinching" my ear.

/Johannes?


From: [email protected] <[email protected]> on behalf of Charles Devore via groups.io <Claremont5@...>
Sent: Sunday, December 8, 2024 10:32
To: [email protected] <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: [7x12MiniLathe] Digital Electronic Vernier Caliper
?
replace the battery

In a message dated 12/8/2024 10:17:08 AM Pacific Standard Time, ckinzer@... writes:
?
?
I am more likely to suspect the calipers than interference.? Especially if they are the extremely inexpensive ones.
?
But it would be easy enough to drive the calipers a distance away from any electrical transmission source and see if they magically start working.
?
I have some of the low-cost digital calipers and mine have a tendency to skip sometimes and suddenly be 0.2 or 0.4 inches off or something) and also?
?
I finally bought two Mitutoyo digital calipers, 4 inch and 6 inches.? NO problems - ever.? Yes, they cost a bit.? In the long run, I think a better value.? I also have some dial calipers I sometimes use.
?
And just to be pedantic, if it is a digital caliper, then it is not a vernier.? Those are two types of calipers.? One has a digital scale.? The other a vernier (where you line up physical marks to read accurately).? Although many people still include the word "vernier" even if it doesn't fit - even listings for sale.? You have vernier, dial, and digital.
?
Charles E. "Chuck" Kinzer
?
On Sunday, December 8, 2024 at 09:57:25 AM PST, Johannes <johannes@...> wrote:
?
?
I can not work without many "Digital Electronic Vernier Caliper" in my workshop.
However, they are always hiding them self when I am doing my job.
Lately I have discovered that they are missing the numbers on the display.
Both old and new ones.
Suddenly the numbers are being negative or shutting down.
I am blaming a Comunicacion tower not far?from the building.
?
Someone's that has a good advice for me?
?
Best from
Johannes
?



Re: Digital Electronic Vernier Caliper

 

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"Chuck"
Thanks, you are absolutely correct.
I have all 3: vernier, dial, and digital.
Thanks for "pinching" my ear.

/Johannes?


From: [email protected] <[email protected]> on behalf of Charles Devore via groups.io <Claremont5@...>
Sent: Sunday, December 8, 2024 10:32
To: [email protected] <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: [7x12MiniLathe] Digital Electronic Vernier Caliper
?
replace the battery

In a message dated 12/8/2024 10:17:08 AM Pacific Standard Time, ckinzer@... writes:
?
?
I am more likely to suspect the calipers than interference.? Especially if they are the extremely inexpensive ones.
?
But it would be easy enough to drive the calipers a distance away from any electrical transmission source and see if they magically start working.
?
I have some of the low-cost digital calipers and mine have a tendency to skip sometimes and suddenly be 0.2 or 0.4 inches off or something) and also?
?
I finally bought two Mitutoyo digital calipers, 4 inch and 6 inches.? NO problems - ever.? Yes, they cost a bit.? In the long run, I think a better value.? I also have some dial calipers I sometimes use.
?
And just to be pedantic, if it is a digital caliper, then it is not a vernier.? Those are two types of calipers.? One has a digital scale.? The other a vernier (where you line up physical marks to read accurately).? Although many people still include the word "vernier" even if it doesn't fit - even listings for sale.? You have vernier, dial, and digital.
?
Charles E. "Chuck" Kinzer
?
On Sunday, December 8, 2024 at 09:57:25 AM PST, Johannes <johannes@...> wrote:
?
?
I can not work without many "Digital Electronic Vernier Caliper" in my workshop.
However, they are always hiding them self when I am doing my job.
Lately I have discovered that they are missing the numbers on the display.
Both old and new ones.
Suddenly the numbers are being negative or shutting down.
I am blaming a Comunicacion tower not far?from the building.
?
Someone's that has a good advice for me?
?
Best from
Johannes
?



Re: Digital Electronic Vernier Caliper

 

Interesting vid I did years ago showing the effect of a CFL light bulb (the curly fluorescent ones before LED replacements) and the EMI interference it causes on a plastic caliper




LED lamps can be just as bad.? The SMPS supplies can put out quite an amount if EMI:
Again - from years ago:

that's a TEK 1.8GHz analog spectrum analyzer

If you take something like an RF Explorer or one of those cheap CN-made spectrum analyzers into a place like LOWE's or Home Depot's out motion activated light aisle, watch the RF jump from about 1- 200 MHz...?? nasty.

On 12/8/2024 1:16 PM, Charles Kinzer via groups.io wrote:
I am more likely to suspect the calipers than interference.? Especially if they are the extremely inexpensive ones.
But it would be easy enough to drive the calipers a distance away from any electrical transmission source and see if they magically start working.
I have some of the low-cost digital calipers and mine have a tendency to skip sometimes and suddenly be 0.2 or 0.4 inches off or something) and also
I finally bought two Mitutoyo digital calipers, 4 inch and 6 inches.? NO problems - ever.? Yes, they cost a bit.? In the long run, I think a better value.? I also have some dial calipers I sometimes use.
And just to be pedantic, if it is a digital caliper, then it is not a vernier.? Those are two types of calipers.? One has a digital scale.? The other a vernier (where you line up physical marks to read accurately).? Although many people still include the word "vernier" even if it doesn't fit - even listings for sale.? You have vernier, dial, and digital.
Charles E. "Chuck" Kinzer
On Sunday, December 8, 2024 at 09:57:25 AM PST, Johannes <johannes@...> wrote:
#yiv3669264674 P {margin-top:0;margin-bottom:0;}I can not work without many "Digital Electronic Vernier Caliper" in my workshop.However, they are always hiding them self when I am doing my job.Lately I have discovered that they are missing the numbers on the display.Both old and new ones.Suddenly the numbers are being negative or shutting down.I am blaming a Comunicacion tower not far?from the building.
Someone's that has a good advice for me?
Best fromJohannes







Re: Digital Electronic Vernier Caliper

 

replace the battery

In a message dated 12/8/2024 10:17:08 AM Pacific Standard Time, ckinzer@... writes:
?

?
I am more likely to suspect the calipers than interference.? Especially if they are the extremely inexpensive ones.
?
But it would be easy enough to drive the calipers a distance away from any electrical transmission source and see if they magically start working.
?
I have some of the low-cost digital calipers and mine have a tendency to skip sometimes and suddenly be 0.2 or 0.4 inches off or something) and also?
?
I finally bought two Mitutoyo digital calipers, 4 inch and 6 inches.? NO problems - ever.? Yes, they cost a bit.? In the long run, I think a better value.? I also have some dial calipers I sometimes use.
?
And just to be pedantic, if it is a digital caliper, then it is not a vernier.? Those are two types of calipers.? One has a digital scale.? The other a vernier (where you line up physical marks to read accurately).? Although many people still include the word "vernier" even if it doesn't fit - even listings for sale.? You have vernier, dial, and digital.
?
Charles E. "Chuck" Kinzer
?
On Sunday, December 8, 2024 at 09:57:25 AM PST, Johannes <johannes@...> wrote:
?
?
I can not work without many "Digital Electronic Vernier Caliper" in my workshop.
However, they are always hiding them self when I am doing my job.
Lately I have discovered that they are missing the numbers on the display.
Both old and new ones.
Suddenly the numbers are being negative or shutting down.
I am blaming a Comunicacion tower not far?from the building.
?
Someone's that has a good advice for me?
?
Best from
Johannes
?



Re: Digital Electronic Vernier Caliper

 

I am more likely to suspect the calipers than interference.? Especially if they are the extremely inexpensive ones.

But it would be easy enough to drive the calipers a distance away from any electrical transmission source and see if they magically start working.

I have some of the low-cost digital calipers and mine have a tendency to skip sometimes and suddenly be 0.2 or 0.4 inches off or something) and also?

I finally bought two Mitutoyo digital calipers, 4 inch and 6 inches.? NO problems - ever.? Yes, they cost a bit.? In the long run, I think a better value.? I also have some dial calipers I sometimes use.

And just to be pedantic, if it is a digital caliper, then it is not a vernier.? Those are two types of calipers.? One has a digital scale.? The other a vernier (where you line up physical marks to read accurately).? Although many people still include the word "vernier" even if it doesn't fit - even listings for sale.? You have vernier, dial, and digital.

Charles E. "Chuck" Kinzer

On Sunday, December 8, 2024 at 09:57:25 AM PST, Johannes <johannes@...> wrote:


I can not work without many "Digital Electronic Vernier Caliper" in my workshop.
However, they are always hiding them self when I am doing my job.
Lately I have discovered that they are missing the numbers on the display.
Both old and new ones.
Suddenly the numbers are being negative or shutting down.
I am blaming a Comunicacion tower not far?from the building.

Someone's that has a good advice for me?

Best from
Johannes




Digital Electronic Vernier Caliper

 

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I can not work without many "Digital Electronic Vernier Caliper" in my workshop.
However, they are always hiding them self when I am doing my job.
Lately I have discovered that they are missing the numbers on the display.
Both old and new ones.
Suddenly the numbers are being negative or shutting down.
I am blaming a Comunicacion tower not far?from the building.

Someone's that has a good advice for me?

Best from
Johannes




Re: Three Jaw Chuck / Spindle Bore Opening

 

Just build yourself a momma boring bar, a few light?cuts is all it takes. That will even help with recentering the bore.
Still much faster and cheaper than waiting for a reamer and paying for shipping/deposit.
?


On Thu, Nov 28, 2024 at 10:12?PM Miket_NYC via <mctaglieri=[email protected]> wrote:
It was rather expensive for a tool you'd only use once in your life. Maybe setting up such a program again would be a good idea, with a hefty deposit to borrow the tool.

Mike Taglieri?

On Sun, Nov 24, 2024, 11:09?PM davesmith1800 via <davesmith1=[email protected]> wrote:
What was so special about the reamer?
?
Dave?
?
On Sun, Nov 24, 2024 at 04:20 PM, Roy wrote:
Opening the spindle bore is easy. LMS used to loan short shank reamers for that, until they didn't return. Doing it with a boring bar or adjustable reamer? is just a bit more tedious. (Did mine before the reamers vanished.)
?
Roy


Re: Three Jaw Chuck / Spindle Bore Opening

 

It was rather expensive for a tool you'd only use once in your life. Maybe setting up such a program again would be a good idea, with a hefty deposit to borrow the tool.

Mike Taglieri?

On Sun, Nov 24, 2024, 11:09?PM davesmith1800 via <davesmith1=[email protected]> wrote:
What was so special about the reamer?
?
Dave?
?
On Sun, Nov 24, 2024 at 04:20 PM, Roy wrote:
Opening the spindle bore is easy. LMS used to loan short shank reamers for that, until they didn't return. Doing it with a boring bar or adjustable reamer? is just a bit more tedious. (Did mine before the reamers vanished.)
?
Roy


Re: Headstock indexer

 

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I’ve had his site bookmarked for ages…his stuff is very good!

On Nov 26, 2024, at 7:55 AM, Jonas Grina via <jonasgrina@...> wrote:

?
The author has a website and the indexer is described on this page. He has many other interesting things too.
?
Jonas

--?
Bruce Johnson

"Wherever you go, there you are." B. Banzai, PhD


Re: Headstock indexer

 

?
The author has a website and the indexer is described on this page. He has many other interesting things too.
?
Jonas


Re: Three Jaw Chuck / Spindle Bore Opening

 

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You’ve missed the (short) point being made.? Again.

?

Tony

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From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of davesmith1800 via groups.io
Sent: Tuesday, 26 November 2024 4:28 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [7x12MiniLathe] Three Jaw Chuck / Spindle Bore Opening

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I had turret lathes and screw machines. Everthing was short.?

?

Most drill bit are screw machine length even upto 2?" size.?

?

Reamers I buy long because it lower cost can cut the shank down.

?

Dave?

?

On Sun, Nov 24, 2024 at 10:00 PM, Tony Smith wrote:

I’m pretty sure you can figure out why “short shank” would be useful.

?

Tony

?

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From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of davesmith1800 via groups.io
Sent: Monday, 25 November 2024 3:09 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [7x12MiniLathe] Three Jaw Chuck / Spindle Bore Opening

?

What was so special about the reamer?

?

Dave?

?

On Sun, Nov 24, 2024 at 04:20 PM, Roy wrote:

Opening the spindle bore is easy. LMS used to loan short shank reamers for that, until they didn't return. Doing it with a boring bar or adjustable reamer? is just a bit more tedious. (Did mine before the reamers vanished.)

?

Roy

?


Re: Three Jaw Chuck / Spindle Bore Opening

 

It had a shortened shank & (IIRC) a #2 Morse taper end to let it fit snugly in the TS. Cleaning it & removing the excess shipping labels from the package took longer than the actual reaming. Previous users had slapped so many new labels on top of the old ones that it was unwieldy.
?
Roy


Re: Headstock indexer

 

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??? They have some pretty darn awesome vintage dirt & street bike mags too

On 11/24/24 7:01 AM, Craig Hopewell via groups.io wrote:

That is a good magazine.? I will look up the indexer article.?? Several Briitish magazines are superior to USA perioicals - especially air gun magazines.
?
--
Lone Tree, Colorado? ?USA


BlackFriday hobby mag sale

 

I got this mail today & heres a list of their hobby mags that are part of their blackFriday Magazine sale , some of ya may be interested

,ZQE9,5GIPSW,4MGQ9,1


Re: Headstock indexer

 

If you want to have a peek at the article before you invest in the magazine, your public library just _might_ have access to this magazine. Our public library here in Winnipeg enables cardholders to access Model Engineers Workshop through the "Overdrive" digital media application.?


Re: Three Jaw Chuck / Spindle Bore Opening

 

I had turret lathes and screw machines. Everthing was short.?
?
Most drill bit are screw machine length even upto 2?" size.?
?
Reamers I buy long because it lower cost can cut the shank down.
?
Dave?
?
On Sun, Nov 24, 2024 at 10:00 PM, Tony Smith wrote:

I’m pretty sure you can figure out why “short shank” would be useful.

?

Tony

?

?

From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of davesmith1800 via groups.io
Sent: Monday, 25 November 2024 3:09 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [7x12MiniLathe] Three Jaw Chuck / Spindle Bore Opening

?

What was so special about the reamer?

?

Dave?

?

On Sun, Nov 24, 2024 at 04:20 PM, Roy wrote:

Opening the spindle bore is easy. LMS used to loan short shank reamers for that, until they didn't return. Doing it with a boring bar or adjustable reamer? is just a bit more tedious. (Did mine before the reamers vanished.)

?

Roy

?


Re: Three Jaw Chuck / Spindle Bore Opening

 

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I’m pretty sure you can figure out why “short shank” would be useful.

?

Tony

?

?

From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of davesmith1800 via groups.io
Sent: Monday, 25 November 2024 3:09 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [7x12MiniLathe] Three Jaw Chuck / Spindle Bore Opening

?

What was so special about the reamer?

?

Dave?

?

On Sun, Nov 24, 2024 at 04:20 PM, Roy wrote:

Opening the spindle bore is easy. LMS used to loan short shank reamers for that, until they didn't return. Doing it with a boring bar or adjustable reamer? is just a bit more tedious. (Did mine before the reamers vanished.)

?

Roy