Re: CNCZEUS is now Open source
One of the problems may be that a lot of us on here speak English (well I do) and the message below makes no sense ? Rgds. ???????? Ellis ? ? ? I see that it runs on MS-DOS. ? At first this might seem primitive. ? But if you have ever written any DOS software what's going on is your software runs on "bare metal". ? To use more modern terms, MS-DOS simply loads the software then runs it allowing complete root level access to the entire PC. ? There is not scheduler and OS to deal with. ?? To say this again on LinuxCNC terms, every MS-DOS program is in effect a real-time HAL module. ? ? Yes it is primitive as it uses a full up Intel X86 as it it where a micro controller with no OS. ? But that might not be a bad thing for this application.
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I forgot to mention in my last post, Hobby Machinist allows pictures to be easily placed within each message and show up as thumbnails, not text links. That is a plus as we can visualy decided what we want to enlarge for a better view. I am very impressed.
Dick
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My favorite machining website is Hobby Machinist. I have been a member for a while and really like it. The members are very kind and respectful of one another and that is part of the code of conduct. It is very easy to get knowledgeable answers and there is a section for beginners. Subject matter discussed is categorized making it easier to zero in on the area you want. There seems to be a moderator involved in the discussion quite often. This is definitely top shelf. Very organized and also has a premium content for a membership fee. Yahoo groups activity levels eb and flow and sometimes no activity at all for months.
Dick
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Re: CNCZEUS is now Open source
I've written code that runs bare metal under Windows. You just don't
ask permission for things, you capture interrupts you need and keep
Windows out of your hair.
Will that work on modern versions of Windows that are based on NT? ? I think it should cause a privileged instruction trap. ?
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Oh, the spammers are still around, but originally the files section was handy because hosting your own files or photos wasn¡¯t easy.
These days it¡¯s trivial to provide a link to Dropbox or Google or whatever, it¡¯s certainly easier than trying to log into Yahoo and futz about trying to get the photo to upload.
At this point I think the files section should be for ¡®historically interesting¡¯ stuff, like manuals and dimensioned drawing etc, not random bit of metal people are working on as what prompted this thread. Sure if they upload it here it¡¯ll get cleaned up in the future¡
Here¡¯s some lamps I made my nieces a couple of years back: , . Easier to paste those links than deal with Yahoo, and not the sort of thing I want in Files anyway.
Tony
(Dinosaurs and Frozen. Each to their own, I guess.)
(Was also a Peppa Pig one. USB powered LED. The flower on top projects onto the ceiling ¨C an accidental feature.)
(The ¡®scrap¡¯ from the flowers became a necklace: as modelled by ¡®Bruce¡¯ the moai and Sally the dog.)
From: 7x12minilathe@... [mailto:7x12minilathe@...]
Sent: Friday, 28 July 2017 12:43 AM
To: 7x12minilathe@...
Subject: Re: [7x12minilathe] Re: Pics and files
Agree ! Bring on the moot point! Yahoo groups are today a ghost of what they once were, they are no longer the focus of spammers as they once were. Precisely my point. We are still defending a position that has not been under (significant) attack for quite a while... need to look at present reality instead of clinging to old fears.
This group's longevity is peculiar in that the subject matter makes it specific to older folks, enhanced resistance to change. Ever wonder what this group's median age would be? Not that I'm suggesting a poll.
Yahoo files only require membership if the group is not set to public, which Pics-n-files is, no sweat there.
On Thu, Jul 27, 2017 at 1:22 AM, 'Tony Smith' ajsmith1968@... [7x12minilathe] <7x12minilathe@...> wrote:
Moving into this century by unrestricting files is a bit of a moot point these days, over 90% of the groups I¡¯m a member of are dead, some for many years.
It¡¯s less hassle to host files yourself (not on Photobucket obviously), and as a bonus you can share that link with anyone, Yahoo files usually require membership to access them.
I¡¯m surprised these groups even exist (I remember when it was eGroups!).
Some folk are surprised even Yahoo still exists.
Tony
From: 7x12minilathe@... [mailto:7x12minilathe@...]
Sent: Thursday, 27 July 2017 3:02 PM
To: 7x12minilathe@...
Subject: Re: [7x12minilathe] Re: Pics and files
On Wed, Jul 26, 2017 at 8:37 PM, roylowenthal@... [7x12minilathe] <7x12minilathe@...> wrote:
They're available through a moderator.
Yes, that's exactly the problem, they're available but they're not, and let alone when a member actually needs it.
That was a deliberate decision to avoid the problems the 7x10 group had with unmoderated access. At the time, Yahoo had file size limits,
That was then, could we possibly move into THIS century?
making it logical to avoid permanently using a finite resource for transient items.
So at present, the available but not really available finite resource is woefully underused at 3.5% . Yup, the unused part DOES seem pretty infinite at this rate.
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Re: CNCZEUS is now Open source
Jerry,
A quick search for Windows interrupts revealed a substantial number of them.? How is is possible to determine which of them you need to reserve for your own purposes?? It looks to me like it would be awfully easy to get Windows to just seize up, particularly if you are re-allocating resources to homebrew code that does not handle errors well.? Good error handling, in my experience, is the very devil to do well.
Mark
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Re: CNCZEUS is now Open source
I've written code that runs bare metal under Windows. You just don't
ask permission for things, you capture interrupts you need and keep
Windows out of your hair.
I see that it runs on MS-DOS. ? At first this might seem
primitive. ? But if you have ever written any DOS software
what's going on is your software runs on "bare metal". ? To
use more modern terms, MS-DOS simply loads the software then
runs it allowing complete root level access to the entire PC.
? There is not scheduler and OS to deal with. ??
To say this again on LinuxCNC terms, every MS-DOS program
is in effect a real-time HAL module. ? ?
Yes it is primitive as it uses a full up Intel X86 as it it
where a micro controller with no OS. ? But that might not be a
bad thing for this application.
--
Jerry Durand, Durand Interstellar, Inc.
tel: +1 408 356-3886
@DurandInterstel
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Hello John,
?
Just to clear up any possible confusion, I believe that Google
has retired Picasa, and moved to Google Photos.
< ?>
?
I know they used to have a web photo storage called Picasa, as
well as a photo application for your computer also called
Picasa..
?
I used to use Picasa, and I really liked it, but now use
Google Drive.
Michael - California, USA
Micro-Mark
MicroLux 7x16
LMS 3990 Hi-Torque Mill with power feed
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I have used Picasa, (now on version 3).for many years.
It?s a free download.
I believe it is a Google owned program.Not sure.
Good picture storage, it?s easy to send photos via a link process.
to individuals,groups,public etc.
What I like about Picasa is it is not complicated, I tried Photobucket when
people were "raving about it"
I?did not like it, too complicated
for me.
It always wanted to keep backing up my
photo files, by default.
Each to there own I suppose.
Sending links keeps the recipients systems free, as I blieve Picasa stores
the links in the cloud.?
Again not sure.
Not had a problem as yet sending photo?s to any Yahoo group using Picasa in
the past.
Hope this helps.
John
Spain
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It's dead easy in Windows too.?
Arrange and zoom the pdf page on the screen, then hit Alt-PrtScr (which copies the screen image to memory). ?Then open Paint and paste the image, where you can crop it, size it, etc.; then save as a jpg.
From: "MC Cason farmerboy1967@... [7x12minilathe]" <7x12minilathe@...>
To: 7x12minilathe@...
Sent: Thursday, July 27, 2017 2:28 PM
Subject: Re: [7x12minilathe] Re: Pics and files
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Mike,
I use GIMP to convert PDF files to images files, and then upload them
to Flickr. I don't know how hard it is to do in Windows, but it's quick
and easy in Linux.
On 07/26/2017 10:09 PM, Mike T mctaglieri@... [7x12minilathe] wrote:
> I've had a Flickr account for many years, and use it to put photos
> whose links I share with various groups. Much better than having to
> wait for administrators of whatever group to decide whether a
> particular photo is worthy to be posted. It is unfortunate that
> Flickr can't share pdfs also, but it's very simple to use and Drive
> (which can share pdfs) is where I store some things that are personal
> and I'd have to make decisions on whether to share this or that. This
> means that sooner or later I'd share something I wanted to keep
> private and make a laughingstock of myself. Much better to have all
> the photos I want to share in a place that's separate from where I
> store the things I DON'T want to share.
>
> Mike Taglieri
--
Life guestimate of the known universe
Estimated number of stars in the known univese - 400 Sextillion
Estimated number of stars with planets - 400 Quintillion
Estimated number of stars with possible life - 400 Quadrillion
Estimated number of stars with complex life - 400 Trillion
Estimated number of stars with intellegent life - 400 Billion
Estimated number of stars with advanced intellegent life - 400 Million
Estimated number of stars with spacefaring life - 400 Thousand
Estimated number of stars with advanced spacefaring life - 400
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Re: CNCZEUS is now Open source
I see that it runs on MS-DOS. ? At first this might seem primitive. ? But if you have ever written any DOS software what's going on is your software runs on "bare metal". ? To use more modern terms, MS-DOS simply loads the software then runs it allowing complete root level access to the entire PC. ? There is not scheduler and OS to deal with. ??
To say this again on LinuxCNC terms, every MS-DOS program is in effect a real-time HAL module. ? ?
Yes it is primitive as it uses a full up Intel X86 as it it where a micro controller with no OS. ? But that might not be a bad thing for this application.
On Thu, Jul 27, 2017 at 7:47 AM, victorf57@... [7x12minilathe] <7x12minilathe@...> wrote:
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I just noticed
Good cnc software have been playing with it for years In demo mode. Now free. Victor
--
Chris Albertson
Redondo Beach, California
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Re: Painted Myself Into a Corner Again
The small diameter section (that would be bored) is 2" long and about 1" diameter.? Isn't there a 2x rule, or something like that?? Anyways, I do have a steady rest that I think would capture the end.? Might as well use it
From: "Warren LeMay notebook@... [7x12minilathe]" <7x12minilathe@...>
To: 7x12minilathe@...
Sent: Thursday, July 27, 2017 11:23 AM
Subject: Re: [7x12minilathe] Painted Myself Into a Corner Again
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I agree unless you have a boring bar with an adjustable offset
that is short enough...? With that, you could bore the large hole
to depth and then flip it.
With that much stock out there though, I'm not sure how steady
you are without the center.? Visually, I don't think I'd try the
boring bar without a steady in the mix somewhere.? It could bite
and coughup the whole mess on you.
Good luck with it....
Warren L
On 7/27/2017 1:54 PM, Arthur Coe
acoe@... [7x12minilathe] wrote:
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Thanks.?
I'm probably going with a slight variation of your
suggestion since I will need to bore the hole to a
bigger diameter at the small end.? I'll start by
chucking the small end, using the already faced surface
to assist in alignment.? After indicating as you
suggested,? I'll then face the large diameter end.
Next,
I'll flip and re-align the piece, using the now faced
large diameter end against the chuck face to assist in
the alignment.? Then drill through the existing center
hole and bore the end to the larger diameter.
?
The
new account worked great....and good
photo too!!
I stay with my original suggestion
- part it, flip it, center it, drill
it, and face it.? You also have enough
of the small area to indicate and even
have finished the large area enough
that you can indicate there too.
Just to make yourself feel better,
you might want to indicate the large
end, then take an inside mike and
measure the finished area to the
ways.? If it's too far for your mike,
a 123 block should bring you to a test
spot.
However, dialing in the small area
in your 4 jaw as you normally would,
then checking the large end should do
it.? If both ends indicate, they are
on axis.
Warren L
On
7/26/2017 4:49 PM, acoe@...
[7x12minilathe] wrote:
?
I
I am now the proud possessor
of a Flickr account.? Trying
again with a photo posted on
that site (let's see if it
works): ?
?
So, there (assuming photo is
accessible) is the piece I'm
working on.? If I don't go the
short drill bit route suggested
by one of you guys, I'll be band
sawing the turned section off at
about Section A-B.? The face at
C has been faced off as close as
I could get to the TS center and
there is a center drilled hole
for the TS also.
Right now the center drilled
hole, the lesser diameter
turning (about 1" diameter) and
the turned major diameter
section (2" diameter) are all
concentric.
My goal is to get the sawed
off portion re-mounted in my
4-jaw so it is centered and all
the turned sections are
concentric to the rotation of
the spindle.
Got a couple of ideas
already.? Any other thoughts?
Also, did this Flickr thing
actually work?
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I have used Picasa, (now on version 3).for many years. It?s a free download. I believe it is a Google owned program.Not sure.
Good picture storage, it?s easy to send photos via a link process. to individuals,groups,public etc.
What I like about Picasa is it is not complicated, I tried Photobucket when people were "raving about it" I?did not like it, too complicated for me. It always wanted to keep backing up my photo files, by default.
Each to there own I suppose. Sending links keeps the recipients systems free, as I blieve Picasa stores the links in the cloud.? Again not sure.
Not had a problem as yet sending photo?s to any Yahoo group using Picasa in the past.
Hope this helps.
John Spain
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Just a little more information for you to digest. My younger son Peter along with Spencer Kimpbell wrote GIMP when he was at Cal. By the way, I am using Photoshop elements on my iMac for photo stuff. John
On Thu, Jul 27, 2017 at 11:28 AM, MC Cason farmerboy1967@... [7x12minilathe] <7x12minilathe@...> wrote:
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Mike,
I use GIMP to convert PDF files to images files, and then upload them
to Flickr. I don't know how hard it is to do in Windows, but it's quick
and easy in Linux.
On 07/26/2017 10:09 PM, Mike T mctaglieri@... [7x12minilathe] wrote:
> I've had a Flickr account for many years, and use it to put photos
> whose links I share with various groups. Much better than having to
> wait for administrators of whatever group to decide whether a
> particular photo is worthy to be posted. It is unfortunate that
> Flickr can't share pdfs also, but it's very simple to use and Drive
> (which can share pdfs) is where I store some things that are personal
> and I'd have to make decisions on whether to share this or that. This
> means that sooner or later I'd share something I wanted to keep
> private and make a laughingstock of myself. Much better to have all
> the photos I want to share in a place that's separate from where I
> store the things I DON'T want to share.
>
> Mike Taglieri
--
Life guestimate of the known universe
Estimated number of stars in the known univese - 400 Sextillion
Estimated number of stars with planets - 400 Quintillion
Estimated number of stars with possible life - 400 Quadrillion
Estimated number of stars with complex life - 400 Trillion
Estimated number of stars with intellegent life - 400 Billion
Estimated number of stars with advanced intellegent life - 400 Million
Estimated number of stars with spacefaring life - 400 Thousand
Estimated number of stars with advanced spacefaring life - 400
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Mike,
I use GIMP to convert PDF files to images files, and then upload them to Flickr. I don't know how hard it is to do in Windows, but it's quick and easy in Linux.
toggle quoted message
Show quoted text
On 07/26/2017 10:09 PM, Mike T mctaglieri@... [7x12minilathe] wrote: I've had a Flickr account for many years, and use it to put photos whose links I share with various groups. Much better than having to wait for administrators of whatever group to decide whether a particular photo is worthy to be posted. It is unfortunate that Flickr can't share pdfs also, but it's very simple to use and Drive (which can share pdfs) is where I store some things that are personal and I'd have to make decisions on whether to share this or that. This means that sooner or later I'd share something I wanted to keep private and make a laughingstock of myself. Much better to have all the photos I want to share in a place that's separate from where I store the things I DON'T want to share.
Mike Taglieri
--
Life guestimate of the known universe
Estimated number of stars in the known univese - 400 Sextillion
Estimated number of stars with planets - 400 Quintillion
Estimated number of stars with possible life - 400 Quadrillion
Estimated number of stars with complex life - 400 Trillion
Estimated number of stars with intellegent life - 400 Billion
Estimated number of stars with advanced intellegent life - 400 Million
Estimated number of stars with spacefaring life - 400 Thousand
Estimated number of stars with advanced spacefaring life - 400
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Re: Painted Myself Into a Corner Again
I agree unless you have a boring bar with an adjustable offset
that is short enough...? With that, you could bore the large hole
to depth and then flip it.
With that much stock out there though, I'm not sure how steady
you are without the center.? Visually, I don't think I'd try the
boring bar without a steady in the mix somewhere.? It could bite
and coughup the whole mess on you.
Good luck with it....
Warren L
On 7/27/2017 1:54 PM, Arthur Coe
acoe@... [7x12minilathe] wrote:
toggle quoted message
Show quoted text
?
Thanks.?
I'm probably going with a slight variation of your
suggestion since I will need to bore the hole to a
bigger diameter at the small end.? I'll start by
chucking the small end, using the already faced surface
to assist in alignment.? After indicating as you
suggested,? I'll then face the large diameter end.
Next,
I'll flip and re-align the piece, using the now faced
large diameter end against the chuck face to assist in
the alignment.? Then drill through the existing center
hole and bore the end to the larger diameter.
?
The
new account worked great....and good
photo too!!
I stay with my original suggestion
- part it, flip it, center it, drill
it, and face it.? You also have enough
of the small area to indicate and even
have finished the large area enough
that you can indicate there too.
Just to make yourself feel better,
you might want to indicate the large
end, then take an inside mike and
measure the finished area to the
ways.? If it's too far for your mike,
a 123 block should bring you to a test
spot.
However, dialing in the small area
in your 4 jaw as you normally would,
then checking the large end should do
it.? If both ends indicate, they are
on axis.
Warren L
On
7/26/2017 4:49 PM, acoe@...
[7x12minilathe] wrote:
?
I
I am now the proud possessor
of a Flickr account.? Trying
again with a photo posted on
that site (let's see if it
works): ?
?
So, there (assuming photo is
accessible) is the piece I'm
working on.? If I don't go the
short drill bit route suggested
by one of you guys, I'll be band
sawing the turned section off at
about Section A-B.? The face at
C has been faced off as close as
I could get to the TS center and
there is a center drilled hole
for the TS also.
Right now the center drilled
hole, the lesser diameter
turning (about 1" diameter) and
the turned major diameter
section (2" diameter) are all
concentric.
My goal is to get the sawed
off portion re-mounted in my
4-jaw so it is centered and all
the turned sections are
concentric to the rotation of
the spindle.
Got a couple of ideas
already.? Any other thoughts?
Also, did this Flickr thing
actually work?
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Re: Painted Myself Into a Corner Again
Thanks.? I'm probably going with a slight variation of your suggestion since I will need to bore the hole to a bigger diameter at the small end.? I'll start by chucking the small end, using the already faced surface to assist in alignment.? After indicating as you suggested,? I'll then face the large diameter end.
Next, I'll flip and re-align the piece, using the now faced large diameter end against the chuck face to assist in the alignment.? Then drill through the existing center hole and bore the end to the larger diameter.
From: "Warren LeMay notebook@... [7x12minilathe]" <7x12minilathe@...>
To: 7x12minilathe@...
Sent: Thursday, July 27, 2017 2:05 AM
Subject: Re: [7x12minilathe] Painted Myself Into a Corner Again
?
The new account worked great....and good photo too!!
I stay with my original suggestion - part it, flip it, center it,
drill it, and face it.? You also have enough of the small area to
indicate and even have finished the large area enough that you can
indicate there too.
Just to make yourself feel better, you might want to indicate the
large end, then take an inside mike and measure the finished area
to the ways.? If it's too far for your mike, a 123 block should
bring you to a test spot.
However, dialing in the small area in your 4 jaw as you normally
would, then checking the large end should do it.? If both ends
indicate, they are on axis.
Warren L
On 7/26/2017 4:49 PM, acoe@...
[7x12minilathe] wrote:
?
I
I am now the proud possessor of a Flickr account.?
Trying again with a photo posted on that site (let's see
if it works): ?
?
So, there (assuming photo is accessible) is the piece
I'm working on.? If I don't go the short drill bit route
suggested by one of you guys, I'll be band sawing the
turned section off at about Section A-B.? The face at C
has been faced off as close as I could get to the TS
center and there is a center drilled hole for the TS also.
Right now the center drilled hole, the lesser diameter
turning (about 1" diameter) and the turned major diameter
section (2" diameter) are all concentric.
My goal is to get the sawed off portion re-mounted in
my 4-jaw so it is centered and all the turned sections are
concentric to the rotation of the spindle.
Got a couple of ideas already.? Any other thoughts?
Also, did this Flickr thing actually work?
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CNCZEUS is now Open source
I just noticed
Good cnc software have been playing with it for years In demo mode. Now free. Victor
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Agree !? Bring on the moot point! Yahoo groups are today a ghost of what they once were, they are no longer the focus of spammers as they once were. Precisely my point. We are still defending a position that has not been under (significant) attack for quite a while... need to look at present reality instead of clinging to old fears. This group's longevity is peculiar in that the subject matter makes it specific to older folks, enhanced resistance to change. Ever wonder what this group's median age would be? Not that I'm suggesting a poll. Yahoo files only require membership if the group is not set to public, which Pics-n-files is, no sweat there.
On Thu, Jul 27, 2017 at 1:22 AM, 'Tony Smith' ajsmith1968@... [7x12minilathe] <7x12minilathe@...> wrote:
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Moving into this century by unrestricting files is a bit of a moot point these days, over 90% of the groups I¡¯m a member of are dead, some for many years.
It¡¯s less hassle to host files yourself (not on Photobucket obviously), and as a bonus you can share that link with anyone, Yahoo files usually require membership to access them.
I¡¯m surprised these groups even exist (I remember when it was eGroups!).
Some folk are surprised even Yahoo still exists.
Tony
From: 7x12minilathe@... [mailto:7x12minilathe@yahoogroups.com]
Sent: Thursday, 27 July 2017 3:02 PM
To: 7x12minilathe@...
Subject: Re: [7x12minilathe] Re: Pics and files
On Wed, Jul 26, 2017 at 8:37 PM, roylowenthal@... [7x12minilathe] < 7x12minilathe@...> wrote:
They're available through a moderator.
Yes, that's exactly the problem, they're available but they're not, and let alone when a member actually needs it.
That was a deliberate decision to avoid the problems the 7x10 group had with unmoderated access. At the time, Yahoo had file size limits,
That was then, could we possibly move into THIS century?
making it logical to avoid permanently using a finite resource for transient items.
So at present, the available but not really available finite resource is woefully underused at 3.5% . Yup, the unused part DOES seem pretty infinite at this rate.
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Moving into this century by unrestricting files is a bit of a moot point these days, over 90% of the groups I¡¯m a member of are dead, some for many years.
It¡¯s less hassle to host files yourself (not on Photobucket obviously), and as a bonus you can share that link with anyone, Yahoo files usually require membership to access them.
I¡¯m surprised these groups even exist (I remember when it was eGroups!).
Some folk are surprised even Yahoo still exists.
Tony
From: 7x12minilathe@... [mailto:7x12minilathe@...]
Sent: Thursday, 27 July 2017 3:02 PM
To: 7x12minilathe@...
Subject: Re: [7x12minilathe] Re: Pics and files
On Wed, Jul 26, 2017 at 8:37 PM, roylowenthal@... [7x12minilathe] <7x12minilathe@...> wrote:
They're available through a moderator.
Yes, that's exactly the problem, they're available but they're not, and let alone when a member actually needs it.
That was a deliberate decision to avoid the problems the 7x10 group had with unmoderated access. At the time, Yahoo had file size limits,
That was then, could we possibly move into THIS century?
making it logical to avoid permanently using a finite resource for transient items.
So at present, the available but not really available finite resource is woefully underused at 3.5% . Yup, the unused part DOES seem pretty infinite at this rate.
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