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Re: Real Bull 7x14 lathe questions?
Don Leitch
¿ªÔÆÌåÓýThat's the same as the seig sc3 that I have. Except I don¡¯t have the cam on the tail stock and I have a cover over the leadscrew. Its the one with the ? hp brushless motor, no gear change, it has no speed readout, that's an optional extra. Don ? From: 7x12minilathe@... [mailto:7x12minilathe@...] On Behalf Of Tony Smith
Sent: Wednesday, 6 February 2013 4:06 p.m. To: 7x12minilathe@... Subject: RE: [7x12minilathe] Real Bull 7x14 lathe questions? ? ? > Anyone know anything about these? Found one listed for $650 on eBay. The |
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Re: lathe height
John Lindo
Elbow height is good.. Try and avoid using stools or chairs. It's not easy to see over the top of the machine and is easier to have the chips hit your face.even worse, something flies out of the chuck,which can happen.And on that point,it's not easy to tighten a chuck or collet sitting down. Also if you have a confined workshop,the stool is always in the way. Exceptions of course if you are unfortunate to be disabled. John L Spain
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Re: Real Bull 7x14 lathe questions?
Do the one's with the variable drive develop as much torque at low RPM's?I guess the real question is, are they as goodor better than the lathes withthe high/low? Well, LMS call them 'HiTorque', and the consensus seems to be they are much more capable at low revs than the standard versions. They've got a bigger motor; 500w vs 250-350W so that helps. I've got a standard Real Bull, and it claims to have a 350W motor. I haven't played with the newer ones, so maybe someone with experience will chime in. There's a comparison chart here: , the LMS and one Micro-Mark have the new motor & controller, the rest are the old style. All from Sieg, not that it makes a huge difference. Real Bull themselves are here: , in the USA the distributor is here: . BigDog have theirs at $750, which include accessories + a 4" chuck (stock is 3"). You'll still need a 4" 4-jaw anyway. The $650 one you were looking at may not be that great deal after all. There used to be large price difference (like $300) between the variants which seems to be vanishing; both from the standard ones getting more expensive, and the newer 'Super' ones getting cheaper. Neither LMS or BigDog stock the standard model anymore. Tony |
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Re: Real Bull 7x14 lathe questions?
bob_guenthner
Tony,
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Do the one's with the variable drive develop as much torque at low RPM's? I guess the real question is, are they as goodor better than the lathes with the high/low? Bob --- In 7x12minilathe@..., "Tony Smith" wrote:
Anyone know anything about these? Found one listed for $650 on eBay. Thegear box. |
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Re: lathe height
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Re: Real Bull 7x14 lathe questions?
Anyone know anything about these? Found one listed for $650 on eBay. Thegear box. Just looking to see if there's anyone that knows anything about them. The Real Bulls are slightly different to the Sieg, where different means they have nice little extra touches. What you're looking at is basically one of these: The 7x lathes come in two versions; the originals like most of us have, and then the newer (sometimes called 'Super') variants that have a better motor. The new ones can do 50-2500 RPM without needing the Hi/Lo gear, everything else is much the same. Some have a shorter tailstock so you gain another inch. Tony |
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Re: lathe height
Don Leitch
¿ªÔÆÌåÓýI would stand on a pallet, rather than cut the legs . I made my bench high as I have a knackered back and stooping is a pain. So general layout work its perfect height, but a fraction high to see on top of the lathe. Don zl1atb ? From: 7x12minilathe@... [mailto:7x12minilathe@...] On Behalf Of Ebner Heating Air Conditioning Co.
Sent: Wednesday, 6 February 2013 2:48 p.m. To: 7x12minilathe@... Subject: [7x12minilathe] lathe height ? ? I'm getting a heavy bench set up to accept my lathe. After bolting a heavy set of casters that were sized to accept the 400 pound weight I ended up with a bench that is to high to comfortably work while sitting on a stool. My question would be is there a rule of thumb 'height wise" that?I should shoot for? I don't want to cut the legs off so that the bench ends up to low. ? Thanks Mike |
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Re: lathe height
The recommendation is that your lathe be at elbow height when standing or sitting. I've never been able to get comfortable without the frame of the table hitting the top of my legs. There isn't much room between my elbows and the tops of my legs when sitting.
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Since your elbows are different heights when sitting and standing, you need to be able to adjust the table or the chair/stool. Just cutting the legs won't fix your problem. I finally figured out that if I put the lathe on a taller table and use a drafting stool, my legs aren't at right angles so I have more room for them under the table. The lathe is higher when I am standing, but that puts it closer to my old eyes. So, for me, higher is better. --- In 7x12minilathe@..., Jerry Durand wrote:
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Re: lathe height
Jerry Durand
¿ªÔÆÌåÓýLathe should be about elbow height...more or less to personal taste.On 02/05/2013 05:47 PM, Ebner Heating
Air Conditioning Co. wrote:
-- Jerry Durand, Durand Interstellar, Inc. tel: +1 408 356-3886, USA toll free: 1 866 356-3886 Skype: jerrydurand |
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lathe height
Ebner Heating Air Conditioning Co.
¿ªÔÆÌåÓýI'm getting a heavy bench set
up to accept my lathe. After bolting a heavy set of casters that were sized to
accept the 400 pound weight I ended up with a bench that is to high to
comfortably work while sitting on a stool. My question would be is there a rule
of thumb 'height wise" that?I should shoot for? I don't want to cut the
legs off so that the bench ends up to low.
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Re: Which lube do you use
The problem is cast iron swarf is a powder; there's enough carbon in it that cutting oil would just make a mess. Worse yet, the outer "skin" of some cast iron has a little sand in it. Cutting oil would make that even more annoying to deal with. As it is, CI is actually pleasant to machine, just a little messy to clean up after.
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Re: 100mm spindle source in US?
Glad to be able to help. Mike of this Group put one on his Clarke (rebadged Sieg) 7x lathe, and fitted taper roller bearings to the spindle at the same time - something you might like to consider. See
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Re: Boring bar setup question
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I've actually had some good results flipping the bar over to the flat milled on the bottom and cutting on the back side of the work. I set the bar low (high on the cut) and it actually looks like a lathe cut it, not chipped out with dull deer antlers, hahaha! cnc sales <gcode.fi@...> wrote: ?
I think it would work fine.
It?s neither rocket science nor too hard, Just some positive rake and thats it. On 03/02/2013 19:59, Ryan Hodges wrote: ? |
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Re: 100mm spindle source in US?
machinist1930
Yep...that did it. They dont have it listed in replacement parts on their site, but Jeff there hooked me up.
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Re: Horsepower Resistor
¿ªÔÆÌåÓýJust a little history. Nichrome wire?can?also be called
Chromel. Hoskins Manufacturing Company?sells Nichrome wire under
their?registered trademark name of Chromel. My father manufactured wire
wound resistors for over 50 years. There are several different blends of the
nickel-chromium and sometimes iron alloy.
Michael - USA Micro-Mark MicroLux
7x16 ?
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From: 7x12minilathe@... [mailto:7x12minilathe@...] On Behalf Of Andrew Sent: Tuesday, February 05, 2013 5:16 AM To: 7x12minilathe@... Subject: Re: [7x12minilathe] Re: Horsepower Resistor ? |
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Re: Tailstock DRO don't throw anything away.
John Lindo
No,this was a purpose built DRO unit to fit the Weiss mill, You will note from the photos that it is attached to the bracket by 2 brass screws. these holes were originally to attach the DRO to the mill quill. maximum travel I think is 3" which is more than than lathe quill will travel before running out of thread. If you use a?converted?6" caliper,and cut it down,you may be in trouble. I recently fitted a Y axis DRO to my mill and needed to cut it down in length,seemed to work OK? with a junior hacksaw. Always remove all the burrs as good engineering practice,before you need to slide the reader off the scale for any reason, I chose not
to?separate?the reader from the scale.Maybe the rough edges could cause a scarring effect when sliding the reader off. Just guessing,I am sure we have better experts in the group to chip in,Andy Franks knows my limited electronics knowledge. But I do now know what a LMB is attached to my?satellite?dish,it fell off during a storm,my wife said John we have no picture. Simple fix,I got the local TV repair man out,paid him,job done. I did keep the broken bracket and I will make a standby one in?aluminium,he replaced the broken bracket/clamp made in plastic with another made in plastic. Not a
good idea in Spain with summer temps up to plus 42 C,winter temps down to 0 C.Expecting again severe winds tonight. lets see if the plastic bracket stands the brunt. Best regards John L Spain.
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Re: Which lube do you use
Available as a free download from google books here: ?
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--- In 7x12minilathe@..., Bruce Prager wrote: > > I would like a copy if possible. No rush. > > Bruce > > From: Ebner Heating Air Conditioning Co. > Sent: Monday, February 04, 2013 8:37 PM > To: 7x12minilathe@... > Subject: RE: [7x12minilathe] Which lube do you use > > > > Mike I would be very interested Thanks > > Mike@... > -----Original Message----- > From: 7x12minilathe@... [mailto:7x12minilathe@...] On Behalf Of Michael Jablonski > Sent: Monday, February 04, 2013 5:23 PM > To: 7x12minilathe@... > Subject: RE: [7x12minilathe] Which lube do you use > > > > > The South Bend "HOW TO RUN A LATHE" book is very old, but the practices still hold true today. > The copyright has run out on it long ago, so it can be reproduced at no charge. > I have a PDF file of the book which I can email to you if you are interested. It is a little over 3 megs. > > Michael - USA > Micro-Mark MicroLux 7x16 > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: 7x12minilathe@... [mailto:7x12minilathe@...] On Behalf Of Ebner Heating Air Conditioning Co. > Sent: Monday, February 04, 2013 5:23 AM > To: 7x12minilathe@... > Subject: [7x12minilathe] Which lube do you use > > > > > Excuse me if this question has already been asked but I am curious as to what you recommend to keep cutting tools cool. Do you recommend a pump to flood the tool and material being machined, a mist coolant spray, or the old fashioned chip brush dunked in cutting oil? Most of my work will be done with aluminum. > > Also is there any one book that stands out from the rest as far as lathe and mill practices that you might recommend to a newb? > > No virus found in this message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > Version: 2013.0.2897 / Virus Database: 2639/6080 - Release Date: 02/04/13 > |
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Re: Horsepower Resistor
¿ªÔÆÌåÓýI Agree with Jerry.Some servos I ordered got delayed (my fault) and last week was too late to get them going before the new year holdays. So they will leave about the 23rd. Fair enough.. I exchange good products and good pricing and good shipping costs for a variable human interface (these days 95% pretty good). In the 1990s I was the purchaser for many years for containerloads of pc stuff. Never got stiffed, once. Never got exactly what I wanted, when I wanted, either. China will make and sell anything you want, and they make a lot of good stuff. They will also sell you crap stuff, if you want. You just need to buy the good stuff.. I am now waiting for some electronic mics I expect to be just as good as the Mitutoyos at work, only 80-90 each instead of 500-600€. And some DROs, and so on.. BUT 90 is for the good stuff. The cheapest ones at 30 are not gonna be as good. Part of a variety of providers is a variety of qualities, prices and suppliers. --- For a current customer project I need some high current solid state relays.? In the USA a 40 Amp relay is around $47 each plus shipping.? I ordered ten of them from the factory* and the total WITH FedEx Priority shipping is about $75.
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