Re: 4" 4-jaw Union Mfg. chuck
Looks like I'll probably go with the adapter plate. I took the chuck apart and what looked to be a blank back on the chuck was actually an adapter plate fitted to the recess in the back of the chuck.
The plate has 4 5/16-18 holes that the chuck was screwed to with socket heads and 4 1/4-20 holes slightly inboard and in line with the larger holes. Looks like all I need to do is drill and tap 4 holes on the 45 degree radials (the other holes are on the 90's, if you can visualize that, turn a registration recess and install studs and be good to go. The OD of the adapter is already a good snug fit to the chuck.
Any hints for a novice on accurately locating those holes?
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--- In 7x12minilathe@..., "Roy" <roylowenthal@...> wrote:
There's no problem with the lathe being able to handle a 4" chuck, it's a common upgrade. Some folks have fitted 5" chucks with no problems.
I'd go with an adapter plate; it lets you pass long stock thru & it avoids the risk of the chuck unscrewing itself from its mounting if you slow/stop the spindle too quickly.
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Re: 8x12 mini lathe missing parts help needed
Wow those are very reasonable prices.? Is this Harbor Freight tech support then?
?
28587-44859? Sync Tooth Belt? (550mm)??
$5.85
28728-44859 V-Belt (0-720) ?$1.38
29380-44859 Follow Rest? $16.57
29381-44859 Steady Rest $17.63
29382-44859 Face Plate $12.42
12334-44859 125mm 4-jaw Chuck $58.00
?
?
I have ordered everything myself, for my 8x.. except for the
face plate/4-jaw chuck..
?
You ‘have’ to talk to TECH SUPPORT to order (if they
even allow you to order).. CUSTOMER SERVICE will have NO CLUE.. and say you
cant order..etc.
?
?
HTH
?
?
?
?
?
Hello
I picked up a HF 8x12 metal lathe on Craigslist. It looks new but is missing
some parts
My guess is that the tool box got separated from it at some point.
I need both belts. If someone knows the sizes please let me know. Maybe it can
order them from Mcmaster.
Both handles are missing for the cross and compound. I can make these, just
need some help with dimensions.
No change gears either. I hope someone that converted theirs to CNC would be
willing to part with them. Or if anyone knows of a source that may work.
The 3 jaw only has the outside jaws.
The lathe is stamped, 2006 but still has the packing grease on it and was in
the original crate. It has all metal hand wheels also.
Any help will be greatly appreciated.
Alan.
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Re: Rust prevention - oil blacking
I haven't personally tried it, but, I've heard that the oven will pick up an odor from being used for powder coating. That's why a dedicated oven is recommended. They're usually available pretty cheaply from thrift stores, especially the Habitat for Humanity ones that have aisles & aisles of building materials.
Roy
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--- In 7x12minilathe@..., Jerry Durand <jdurand@...> wrote:
On 11/6/2012 10:00 AM, Exibar wrote:
That certianly validates my findings.... I've found that once a part
has been heated and treated in that manner that it rusts quicker than
bare machined metal :-( although I wasn't using used motor oil, after
what you and others have said here, I have no reason to doubt the rust
reason.....
So, what I've been doing is cold blueing the parts, then sealing them
with clear rustoleum.... Does't take ust clear to coat and seal. So it
seems like it's working ok.... I *really* like the blued look on these
parts.... I just wish there was a simpler and durable way to achieve
it cheaply...
Since one way to finish parts is powder coat, anyone used the Harbor
Freight power coat gun? I've seen some comments that some things are
nicer than the expensive guns. I know the voltage is lower on the HF
unit (11,000 vs 15-25,000 on others), but I think this just means a
little bit thinner coating of powder.
The price is nice.
Also, as to baking, I've seen some people using a kitchen oven (I assume
the spouse was out at the time). Does that work safely, or do the fumes
lead to divorce and/or explosions?
--
Jerry Durand, Durand Interstellar, Inc. www.interstellar.com
tel: +1 408 356-3886, USA toll free: 1 866 356-3886
Skype: jerrydurand
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Re: 8x12 mini lathe missing parts help needed
The Lathemaster 8x14 is the same as the HF 8x12.
According to the Lathemaster site, they carry parts
(see "About Us"). You can also download a pdf
Manual and parts list.
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It's not that hard to find a UPS that also provides surge & noise protection; my last few did all that. With the smaller units, it's cheaper to buy a replacement than to replace the battery(ies) when they die of old age. I've done that several times, so I've got a few functional ones without batteries kicking around. The smaller ones, with a single battery are usable as 12 volt inverters - the larger ones, with multiple batteries usually have the batteries connected to supply 24 volts to the inverter. Roy --- In 7x12minilathe@..., John Kiely <john_kiely@...> wrote:
I would recommend the use of an UPS uninterrrupted Power Supply.
Dirty AC can wreck your PC in more ways than one.
For example if you get a brown out or dip in voltage your computer might have trouble distinguishing whether it's on or off.
If the voltage drops or hiccups to such an extent that it goes lower than brown out then there is the possibility of a hard disk wipe.
This actually happened to me.
If you use a big massive generator and you have a couple of heavy duty machines supplied when you shut the power hungry beasts down the controller for the voltage might be a little slow to react. This can result in an over voltage condition. It will eventually come back to normal but by this time it might be too late.
I personally use a 600Watt UPS which is good enough to power two computers for 15 minutes or more. This gives my computers time to shutdown in an orderly fashion without damage to data.
UPS's are not that expensive and I have seen many dumped for the want of a battery.
I don't know if anyone has tried to replace a battery the originals can be quite pricey but a 12 volt battery or maybe multiple 12 volt batteries would do the job almost as good. (Sealed Lead Acid batteries are best). Have not tried this but I do have a UPS put aside for testing some day!
The software that comes with your UPS also has some nice features such as informing you of over and undervoltage, and the associated times.
They are not that expensive, could be that someone is dumping one?
But they do protect you P.C.
?
John Kiely (IRL)
________________________________
From: Richard Garnish <rdg@...>
To: 7x12minilathe@...
Sent: Tuesday, November 6, 2012 4:07 PM
Subject: Re: [7x12minilathe] Re: Thinking of you.
I've had an unregulated small generator kill two laptop power supplies -- I later noticed that when the load dropped to near zero, the output voltage was creeping up to ~300V (this is a 230V nominal generator) so the risk is very real, at least with certain badly-designed units.? The laptops themselves were fine, luckily, so it wasn't too costly an incident.
The frequency won't matter a bit though -- any PC power supply of the last 20 years will be a switch-mode type which will handle voltages from 90-250VAC and most likely any frequency from about 40Hz to 75Hz without any trouble.
Richard
On 06/11/12 12:35, gerry waclawiak wrote:
I bought a cheap 2 stroke 850W generator several years ago for camping (tent) and inevitably it ended up running TV's, laptops and games consoles during the evenings.
I was rather taken aback recently to read that they are potentially (likely) damaging? to electronic circuits and I should buy a more expensive model with voltage regulation or inverter technology.
Marketing hype or not I won't be changing, I've not blown up anything yet so it looks like the circuitry is pretty robust and tolerant on these types of things
Gerry W
Leeds UK
________________________________
To: 7x12minilathe@...
From: mertbaker@...
Date: Tue, 6 Nov 2012 04:45:16 -0500
Subject: RE: [7x12minilathe] Re: Thinking of you.
?
Thank you. That is nice to know, as I miss my emails when the power is out.
I'll extend my Aux. circuit so I can use the computer when the grid goes
out.
Mert
-----Original Message-----
From: mailto:7x12minilathe%40yahoogroups.com
[mailto:mailto:7x12minilathe%40yahoogroups.com]On Behalf Of John
Sent: Monday, November 05, 2012 9:04 PM
To: mailto:7x12minilathe%40yahoogroups.com
Subject: [7x12minilathe] Re: Thinking of you.
Mert;
Computers, LCD Displays as well as Flat Screen Televisions all use switching
power supplies. They really do not care much about frequency or frequency
stability, as long as it is AC. They are also very tolerant of variations in
voltage level. If you have a surge protector on the line, feed them off any
AC generator regardless of regulation and you should have no problems.
Best regards,
John
--- In mailto:7x12minilathe%40yahoogroups.com, "MERTON B BAKER" mailto:mertbaker@
wrote:
Thanks! Good to know. Mert
-----Original Message-----
From: mailto:7x12minilathe%40yahoogroups.com
[mailto:mailto:7x12minilathe%40yahoogroups.com]On Behalf Of Aquila
Sent: Monday, November 05, 2012 9:46 AM
To: mailto:7x12minilathe%40yahoogroups.com
Subject: [7x12minilathe] Re: Thinking of you.
" We didn't run the
computer off the generator, though, as I'm not sure how sensitive it is
to
minor variations in the frequency of tithe power supply."......Mert
We run out house on a 10,000w generator when the power goes out, as it
often does out here in the sticks.
The desktop is connected to a UPS (as is the TV), which smooths out the
generator power nicely.
The laptops manage just fine being plugged into the wall and taking what
the generator puts out.
------------------------------------
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Re: 8x12 mini lathe missing parts help needed
I am pretty sure the HF8x12 is the same machine as
Lathmaster's 8x12.? Only difference I can remember is the paint
color.? The rest of the specs were the same when I bought the HF a few
years back.
?
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----- Original Message -----
Sent: Tuesday, November 06, 2012 4:49
PM
Subject: [7x12minilathe] Re: 8x12 mini
lathe missing parts help needed
?
I called them this afernoon. They only have the V belt in stock, and the
timing belt is back ordered until mid December. They only carry 3 of the
gears
--- In 7x12minilathe@...,
Stephen Castello wrote:
>
> On Tue, 06 Nov
2012 19:30:05 -0000, "Alan" had a
> flock of green
cheek conures squawk out:
>
> >Hello
> >I picked up
a HF 8x12 metal lathe on Craigslist. It looks new but is missing some parts
> >
> >My guess is that the tool box got separated from it
at some point.
> >
> >I need both belts. If someone knows
the sizes please let me know. Maybe it can order them from Mcmaster.
>
>
> >Both handles are missing for the cross and compound. I can
make these, just need some help with dimensions.
> >
> >No
change gears either. I hope someone that converted theirs to CNC would be
willing to part with them. Or if anyone knows of a source that may work.
> >
> >The 3 jaw only has the outside jaws.
>
>
> >The lathe is stamped, 2006 but still has the packing grease
on it and was in the original crate. It has all metal hand wheels also.
> >
> >Any help will be greatly appreciated.
>
>
> >Alan.
>
> www.LittleMachineShop.com has the
belts and other parts for it.
>
>
> --
>
>
Stephen
>
> Don't sweat petty things... or pet sweaty
things.
>
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Thanks for your very kind offer, but I have been warned NOT and I mean NOT to bring any more **** in to the house!
One man's **** is another man's livelihood!
?
John Kiely 
From: Jerry Durand To: 7x12minilathe@... Sent: Tuesday, November 6, 2012 11:54 PM Subject: Re: [7x12minilathe] Re: Thinking of you.
On 11/6/2012 3:35 PM, John Kiely wrote:
You might know more than me Jerry, but I was under the impression that the APC UPS's didn't work the way you have just described. If they do then there is an awful lot of electronics in there that doesn't do anything. Again I do suppose it would vary from manufacturer?to manufacturer but I have a little faith in APC! You can also program the UPS to behave differently under different conditions, for instance to wait 5 minutes before coming off battery power.
Again I am only reccommending the use of a UPS from my own personal experience, If you have already invested the money in a high quality generator the issue becomes redundant.
?
John Kiely (IRL) Since you have an APC UPS, it may very well have the guts of the APC Voltage Stabilizer I recommended built in.? As I said, you can get UPS units with more feature, but an average one from your local computer store most likely won't have them. I have an old 1KW UPS Triplite with built-in stabilizer if anyone wants a project.? It's yours for the shipping (I'll chuck the batteries, they're toast), it may still work but no guarantee. --
Jerry Durand, Durand Interstellar, Inc.
tel: +1 408 356-3886, USA toll free: 1 866 356-3886
Skype: jerrydurand
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On 11/6/2012 3:35 PM, John Kiely wrote:
You might
know more than me Jerry, but I was under the impression that
the APC UPS's didn't work the way you have just described.
If they do then there is an awful lot of electronics in
there that doesn't do anything. Again I do suppose it would
vary from manufacturer?to manufacturer but I have a little
faith in APC! You can also program the UPS to behave
differently under different conditions, for instance to wait
5 minutes before coming off battery power.
Again I am only reccommending the use of a UPS from my
own personal experience, If you have already invested the
money in a high quality generator the issue becomes
redundant.
?
John Kiely (IRL)
Since you have an APC UPS, it may very well have the guts of the APC
Voltage Stabilizer I recommended built in.? As I said, you can get
UPS units with more feature, but an average one from your local
computer store most likely won't have them.
I have an old 1KW UPS Triplite with built-in stabilizer if anyone
wants a project.? It's yours for the shipping (I'll chuck the
batteries, they're toast), it may still work but no guarantee.
--
Jerry Durand, Durand Interstellar, Inc.
tel: +1 408 356-3886, USA toll free: 1 866 356-3886
Skype: jerrydurand
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You might know more than me Jerry, but I was under the impression that the APC UPS's didn't work the way you have just described. If they do then there is an awful lot of electronics in there that doesn't do anything. Again I do suppose it would vary from manufacturer?to manufacturer but I have a little faith in APC! You can also program the UPS to behave differently under different conditions, for instance to wait 5 minutes before coming off battery power.
Again I am only reccommending the use of a UPS from my own personal experience, If you have already invested the money in a high quality generator the issue becomes redundant.
?
John Kiely (IRL)
From: Jerry Durand <jdurand@...> To: 7x12minilathe@... Sent: Tuesday, November 6, 2012 11:19 PM Subject: Re: [7x12minilathe] Re: Thinking of you.
On 11/6/2012 2:17 PM, John Kiely wrote:
I would recommend the use of an UPS uninterrrupted Power Supply. Actually, most UPS units do ZERO to clean up the power (but you can buy some with filtering options).? All the standard ones are is an inverter, battery, and relay.? On out-of-spec power they simply disconnect from the AC mains and connect you to the inverter and you're now running on battery. If you have a lot of power variations, you'll quickly wear out a UPS. Also, a generator seeing the load disappear when the UPS disconnects will cause it to throttle back.? Then when the UPS tries to switch back, the sudden load will make the generator slow down, often tripping the UPS again.? I've seen where the generator winds up ramping up and down constantly as the UPS keeps trying to reconnect...until the battery goes dead.? Larger generators will have less trouble. If you're really concerned about power,
you need something like one of these http://www.tsipower.com/ NOT cheap but they work by monitoring the AC Mains cycle by cycle and applying instant adjustments as needed.? These are really popular in places around the world that have much worse power than we normally see here.? I evaluated these for a customer but even with my wholesale discount he choked on the cost (he needed fairly big ones). An intermediate is a Voltage Stabilizer such as the "APC-LE1200-Automatic-Voltage-Regulator". I recently installed several of these for a client, they were $40 each with free shipping from Amazon.com.? These devices correct for high/low voltage in steps and also have some filtering on the AC power.? You'll find these on TV sets and sound systems all over the place. --
Jerry Durand, Durand Interstellar, Inc.
tel: +1 408 356-3886, USA toll free: 1 866 356-3886
Skype: jerrydurand
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On 11/6/2012 2:17 PM, John Kiely wrote:
I would
recommend the use of an UPS uninterrrupted Power Supply.
Actually, most UPS units do ZERO to clean up the power (but you can
buy some with filtering options).? All the standard ones are is an
inverter, battery, and relay.? On out-of-spec power they simply
disconnect from the AC mains and connect you to the inverter and
you're now running on battery.
If you have a lot of power variations, you'll quickly wear out a
UPS.
Also, a generator seeing the load disappear when the UPS disconnects
will cause it to throttle back.? Then when the UPS tries to switch
back, the sudden load will make the generator slow down, often
tripping the UPS again.? I've seen where the generator winds up
ramping up and down constantly as the UPS keeps trying to
reconnect...until the battery goes dead.? Larger generators will
have less trouble.
If you're really concerned about power, you need something like one
of these
NOT cheap but they work by monitoring the AC Mains cycle by cycle
and applying instant adjustments as needed.? These are really
popular in places around the world that have much worse power than
we normally see here.? I evaluated these for a customer but even
with my wholesale discount he choked on the cost (he needed fairly
big ones).
An intermediate is a Voltage Stabilizer such as the
"APC-LE1200-Automatic-Voltage-Regulator". I recently installed
several of these for a client, they were $40 each with free shipping
from Amazon.com.? These devices correct for high/low voltage in
steps and also have some filtering on the AC power.? You'll find
these on TV sets and sound systems all over the place.
--
Jerry Durand, Durand Interstellar, Inc.
tel: +1 408 356-3886, USA toll free: 1 866 356-3886
Skype: jerrydurand
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Re: 8x12 mini lathe missing parts help needed
28587-44859? Sync Tooth Belt? (550mm)??
$5.85
28728-44859 V-Belt (0-720) ?$1.38
29380-44859 Follow Rest? $16.57
29381-44859 Steady Rest $17.63
29382-44859 Face Plate $12.42
12334-44859 125mm 4-jaw Chuck $58.00
?
?
I have ordered everything myself, for my 8x.. except for the
face plate/4-jaw chuck..
?
You ‘have’ to talk to TECH SUPPORT to order (if they
even allow you to order).. CUSTOMER SERVICE will have NO CLUE.. and say you
cant order..etc.
?
?
HTH
?
?
?
From:
7x12minilathe@... [mailto:7x12minilathe@...] On
Behalf Of Alan
Sent: Tuesday, November 06, 2012 1:30 PM
To: 7x12minilathe@...
Subject: [7x12minilathe] 8x12 mini lathe missing parts help needed
?
?
Hello
I picked up a HF 8x12 metal lathe on Craigslist. It looks new but is missing
some parts
My guess is that the tool box got separated from it at some point.
I need both belts. If someone knows the sizes please let me know. Maybe it can
order them from Mcmaster.
Both handles are missing for the cross and compound. I can make these, just
need some help with dimensions.
No change gears either. I hope someone that converted theirs to CNC would be
willing to part with them. Or if anyone knows of a source that may work.
The 3 jaw only has the outside jaws.
The lathe is stamped, 2006 but still has the packing grease on it and was in
the original crate. It has all metal hand wheels also.
Any help will be greatly appreciated.
Alan.
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Re: 8x12 mini lathe missing parts help needed
I called them this afernoon. They only have the V belt in stock, and the timing belt is back ordered until mid December. They only carry 3 of the gears
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--- In 7x12minilathe@..., Stephen Castello <zootzoot@...> wrote:
On Tue, 06 Nov 2012 19:30:05 -0000, "Alan" <abartz@...> had a
flock of green cheek conures squawk out:
Hello
I picked up a HF 8x12 metal lathe on Craigslist. It looks new but is missing some parts
My guess is that the tool box got separated from it at some point.
I need both belts. If someone knows the sizes please let me know. Maybe it can order them from Mcmaster.
Both handles are missing for the cross and compound. I can make these, just need some help with dimensions.
No change gears either. I hope someone that converted theirs to CNC would be willing to part with them. Or if anyone knows of a source that may work.
The 3 jaw only has the outside jaws.
The lathe is stamped, 2006 but still has the packing grease on it and was in the original crate. It has all metal hand wheels also.
Any help will be greatly appreciated.
Alan. www.LittleMachineShop.com has the belts and other parts for it.
--
Stephen
Don't sweat petty things... or pet sweaty things.
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I would recommend the use of an UPS uninterrrupted Power Supply.
Dirty AC can wreck your PC in more ways than one.
For example if you get a brown out or dip in voltage your computer might have trouble distinguishing whether it's on or off.
If the voltage drops or hiccups to such an extent that it goes lower than brown out then there is the possibility of a hard disk wipe.
This actually happened to me.
If you use a big massive generator and you have a couple of heavy duty machines supplied when you shut the power hungry beasts down the controller for the voltage might be a little slow to react. This can result in an over voltage condition. It will eventually come back to normal but by this time it might be too late.
I personally use a 600Watt UPS which is good enough to power two computers for 15 minutes or more. This gives my computers time to shutdown in an orderly fashion without damage to data.
UPS's are not that expensive and I have seen many dumped for the want of a battery.
I don't know if anyone has tried to replace a battery the originals can be quite pricey but a 12 volt battery or maybe multiple 12 volt batteries would do the job almost as good. (Sealed Lead Acid batteries are best). Have not tried this but I do have a UPS put aside for testing some day!
The software that comes with your UPS also has some nice features such as informing you of over and undervoltage, and the associated times.
They are not that expensive, could be that someone is dumping one?
But they do protect you P.C.
?
John Kiely (IRL)
From: Richard Garnish To: 7x12minilathe@... Sent: Tuesday, November 6, 2012 4:07 PM Subject: Re: [7x12minilathe] Re: Thinking of you.
I've had an unregulated small generator kill two laptop power supplies -- I later noticed that when the load dropped to near zero, the output voltage was creeping up to ~300V (this is a 230V nominal generator) so the risk is very real, at least with certain badly-designed units.? The laptops themselves were fine, luckily, so it wasn't too costly an incident. The frequency won't matter a bit though -- any PC power supply of the last 20 years will be a switch-mode type which will handle voltages from 90-250VAC and most likely any frequency from about 40Hz to 75Hz without any trouble. Richard On 06/11/12 12:35, gerry waclawiak wrote:
I bought a cheap 2 stroke 850W generator several years ago for camping (tent) and inevitably it ended up running TV's, laptops and games consoles during the evenings.
I was rather taken aback recently to read that they are potentially (likely) damaging? to electronic circuits and I should buy a more expensive model with voltage regulation or inverter technology.
Marketing hype or not I won't be changing, I've not blown up anything yet so it looks like the circuitry is pretty robust and tolerant on these types of
things
Gerry W
Leeds UK
To: 7x12minilathe@...From: mertbaker@...Date: Tue, 6 Nov 2012 04:45:16 -0500 Subject: RE: [7x12minilathe] Re: Thinking of you. ?
Thank you. That is nice to know, as I miss my emails when the power is out. I'll extend my Aux. circuit so I can use the computer when the grid goes out. Mert -----Original Message----- From: mailto:7x12minilathe%40yahoogroups.com[mailto: mailto:7x12minilathe%40yahoogroups.com]On Behalf Of John Sent: Monday, November 05, 2012 9:04 PM To: mailto:7x12minilathe%40yahoogroups.comSubject: [7x12minilathe] Re: Thinking of you. Mert; Computers, LCD Displays as well as Flat Screen Televisions all use
switching power supplies. They really do not care much about frequency or frequency stability, as long as it is AC. They are also very tolerant of variations in voltage level. If you have a surge protector on the line, feed them off any AC generator regardless of regulation and you should have no problems. Best regards, John --- In mailto:7x12minilathe%40yahoogroups.com, "MERTON B BAKER" mailto:mertbaker@...wrote: > > Thanks! Good to know. Mert > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: mailto:7x12minilathe%40yahoogroups.com> [mailto: mailto:7x12minilathe%40yahoogroups.com]On Behalf Of Aquila > Sent: Monday, November 05, 2012 9:46 AM > To: mailto:7x12minilathe%40yahoogroups.com> Subject: [7x12minilathe] Re: Thinking of you. > > > > > > " We didn't run the > computer off the generator, though, as I'm not sure how sensitive it is to > minor variations in the frequency of tithe power supply."......Mert > > We run out house on a 10,000w generator when the power goes out, as it > often does out here in the sticks. > The desktop is
connected to a UPS (as is the TV), which smooths out the > generator power nicely. > The laptops manage just fine being plugged into the wall and taking what > the generator puts out. > ------------------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Links
--
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Senior Systems Administrator
Cinesite Limited
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Re: 8x12 mini lathe missing parts help needed
On Tue, 06 Nov 2012 19:30:05 -0000, "Alan" <abartz@...> had a flock of green cheek conures squawk out: Hello
I picked up a HF 8x12 metal lathe on Craigslist. It looks new but is missing some parts
My guess is that the tool box got separated from it at some point.
I need both belts. If someone knows the sizes please let me know. Maybe it can order them from Mcmaster.
Both handles are missing for the cross and compound. I can make these, just need some help with dimensions.
No change gears either. I hope someone that converted theirs to CNC would be willing to part with them. Or if anyone knows of a source that may work.
The 3 jaw only has the outside jaws.
The lathe is stamped, 2006 but still has the packing grease on it and was in the original crate. It has all metal hand wheels also.
Any help will be greatly appreciated.
Alan. www.LittleMachineShop.com has the belts and other parts for it. -- Stephen Don't sweat petty things... or pet sweaty things.
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Re: Rust prevention - oil blacking
If the durability of the finish is not a dire problem, coating the outside with boiled Linseed oil will preserve the finish on the steel, and keep it from rusting. As it's really just a thin paint job, it lets the color appear, and is fairly durable and quite renewable. The old timers used kettle boiled linseed, but it's not easily found today, what you get now is the oil with dryers (oxidizing agents) added. This is called "compound boiled". The more dryers, the quicker it dries. Without dryers, it takes a week or two. If you can find Birchwood Casey's "Tru-oil" in a gun or sporting goods shop, it is thinned and has lots of dryers. It takes about a hour to dry hard on a gun stock, which is where I use it, and it's the fastest drying one I've tried. Most take a day or two. Spread it on thin with your finger, and hang the part up to dry. Colt Single Action receivers are finished this way, as are NEF shotgun receivers. Colts are color case hardened, and the NEF ones are done with the cyanide process. Both will rust if not kept oiled when the linseed wears off.
Mert
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From: 7x12minilathe@... [mailto:7x12minilathe@...]On Behalf Of Exibar
Sent: Tuesday, November 06, 2012 1:01 PM
To: 7x12minilathe@...
Subject: Re: [7x12minilathe] Rust prevention - oil blacking
That certianly validates my findings.... I've found that once a part has been heated and treated in that manner that it rusts quicker than bare machined metal :-( although I wasn't using used motor oil, after what you and others have said here, I have no reason to doubt the rust reason.....
So, what I've been doing is cold blueing the parts, then sealing them with clear rustoleum.... Does't take ust clear to coat and seal. So it seems like it's working ok.... I *really* like the blued look on these parts.... I just wish there was a simpler and durable way to achieve it cheaply...
Thanks all!
Mike B
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Date: Tue, 6 Nov 2012 13:15:44 +0000
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Subject: RE: [7x12minilathe] Rust prevention - oil blacking
Oil blacking/bluing must be kept well oiled as it does not give a great degree of rust protection even in quite moderate conditions. It is also quite soft and will scratch and damage readily and wear over time through handling. It is quite popular as it generally looks good, does not chip and is cheap
If corrosion resistance durability and variety of appearance is important there are better finishes, paint. powdercoat, metal plating, galvanising, sheradising, parkerising etc
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From: exibar@...
Date: Tue, 6 Nov 2012 00:00:03 -0500
Subject: RE: [7x12minilathe] Rust prevention - oil blacking
Hi Ian!
Great pictures! Thank you very much!
Now, how long will that part stay rust free if you do nothing else to it other than a quick rub with a couple papertowels or 000 steel wool? How hard is that surface? Is it easil scratched?
thanks again!
Mike B
From: 7x12minilathe@... [mailto:7x12minilathe@...] On Behalf Of Ian Newman
Sent: Monday, November 05, 2012 12:05 PM
To: 7x12minilathe@...
Subject: RE: [7x12minilathe] Rust prevention - oil blacking
Hi Mert,
Why should oil blacking be a problem?
Clean the part:
Set up the oil:
Heat the part:
Quench in the oil:
The result:
What is wrong with that?
All the best,
Ian
--- On Wed, 31/10/12, MERTON B BAKER <mertbaker@...> wrote:
From: MERTON B BAKER <mertbaker@...>
Subject: RE: [7x12minilathe] Rust prevention
To: 7x12minilathe@...
Date: Wednesday, 31 October, 2012, 21:29
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How do you get away with that in the UK? Mert
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From: 7x12minilathe@... [mailto:7x12minilathe@...]On Behalf Of gerry waclawiak
Sent: Wednesday, October 31, 2012 5:19 PM
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Subject: RE: [7x12minilathe] Rust prevention
Hi Michael,
I haven't done a lot of oil quenching or blacking (mostly use water quench or case-hardening) myself but a lot of the posts I have read on gun and machining sites seem to suggest that gungy old used motor engine oil produces the best results although its likely not the healthiest of stuff to be touching
I have a collection of old blued guns and pistols and they need to be kept well oiled or they will rust. Minor rust marks can be reduced by carefully rubbing down the mark with very fine wire wool dipped in oil
Gerry W
Leeds UK
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Re: New Micro Lux 7x16 lathe
I have 'em someplace in my files. I'll give a hunt for 'em and see if I
can't email you a copy. You'll have noticed that the to slide goes on the
cross slide with a sort of round dovetail, and three cone pointed screws
lock it in place? Essentially, you cop the top slide socket for this
dovetail on the big end of the street elbow, and copy the dovetail itself on
the small end. Thus, the elbow, drilled & tapped for the locking screws
goes on the cross slide where the top slide went, and the top slide clamps
on the other end of the elbow just like it did on the cross slide. This
round dovetail arrangement is not found on other lathes, and this trick
works well & elegantly on the 618, but not on any other, to my knowledge.
The one I made for my 7x12 is nowhere near as neat. Pic of that one is on
file, & I can send it along if you want. Off list, direct. The list does
not allow attachments.
Mert
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-----Original Message----- From: 7x12minilathe@... [mailto:7x12minilathe@...]On Behalf Of Dick Sent: Tuesday, November 06, 2012 1:00 PM To: 7x12minilathe@... Subject: [7x12minilathe] Re: New Micro Lux 7x16 lathe Mert, Do you happen to know where I could find those plans? Dick --- In 7x12minilathe@..., "MERTON B BAKER" <mertbaker@...> wrote:
I bought an Atlas 618 some year ago, for scrap price, and refurbished it.
It was a very nice little machine, but as the previous owner never tried
to cut threads with it, he lost the change gears. Having 4 thread cutting
lathes in use already, I sold the 618, all nicely rehabbed & painted, for
about 6 times what I pad for it. I think you made a wise choice. There's
an interesting idea out there for making a milling attachment for it out of a cast iron pipe street elbow. You can make the whole thing right on that
lathe. I made a similar one for my 7x12, but with a pipe Tee, but the way
the Atlas is designed, the elbow is far more elegant.
Mert
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Sent: Monday, November 05, 2012 11:22 PM
To: 7x12minilathe@...
Subject: [7x12minilathe] Re: New Micro Lux 7x16 lathe
With the 20% off sale last month I was just about to buy one of these, but
ended up with an Atlas/Craftsman 6X18 instead- as usual the tooling package cinched the deal. I've been very happy with various brushless motors I've
used, and that seems to be a big plus.
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8x12 mini lathe missing parts help needed
Hello
I picked up a HF 8x12 metal lathe on Craigslist. It looks new but is missing some parts
My guess is that the tool box got separated from it at some point.
I need both belts. If someone knows the sizes please let me know. Maybe it can order them from Mcmaster.
Both handles are missing for the cross and compound. I can make these, just need some help with dimensions.
No change gears either. I hope someone that converted theirs to CNC would be willing to part with them. Or if anyone knows of a source that may work.
The 3 jaw only has the outside jaws.
The lathe is stamped, 2006 but still has the packing grease on it and was in the original crate. It has all metal hand wheels also.
Any help will be greatly appreciated.
Alan.
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Thanks Richard my generator has some voltage regulation but likely not very good given the price so maybe I've been lucky.
As mine is not that quiet and campsites are clamping down on generators in the evenings many people use them during the day to charge up a leisure battery which I now do
Gerry W
Leeds UK
To: 7x12minilathe@... From: rdg@... Date: Tue, 6 Nov 2012 16:07:40 +0000 Subject: Re: [7x12minilathe] Re: Thinking of you.
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I've had an unregulated small generator kill two laptop power
supplies -- I later noticed that when the load dropped to near zero,
the output voltage was creeping up to ~300V (this is a 230V nominal
generator) so the risk is very real, at least with certain
badly-designed units.? The laptops themselves were fine, luckily, so
it wasn't too costly an incident.
The frequency won't matter a bit though -- any PC power supply of
the last 20 years will be a switch-mode type which will handle
voltages from 90-250VAC and most likely any frequency from about
40Hz to 75Hz without any trouble.
Richard
On 06/11/12 12:35, gerry waclawiak wrote:
I bought a
cheap 2 stroke 850W
generator
several years ago for camping (tent) and inevitably it ended
up running
TV's, laptops and games consoles during the evenings.
I was rather taken
aback recently to read that they are potentially (likely) damaging? to
electronic circuits and I should buy a more expensive
model with voltage regulation or inverter technology.
Marketing hype
or not I won't
be changing, I've not blown up anything yet so it
looks like the circuitry is pretty robust and
tolerant on these types of things
Gerry W
Leeds UK
To: 7x12minilathe@...
From: mertbaker@...
Date: Tue, 6 Nov 2012 04:45:16 -0500
Subject: RE: [7x12minilathe] Re: Thinking of you.
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Thank you. That is nice to know,
as I miss my emails when the power is out.
I'll extend my Aux. circuit so I can use the computer
when the grid goes
out.
Mert
-----Original Message-----
From: 7x12minilathe@...
[mailto: 7x12minilathe@...]On
Behalf Of John
Sent: Monday, November 05, 2012 9:04 PM
To: 7x12minilathe@...
Subject: [7x12minilathe] Re: Thinking of you.
Mert;
Computers, LCD Displays as well as Flat Screen
Televisions all use switching
power supplies. They really do not care much about
frequency or frequency
stability, as long as it is AC. They are also very
tolerant of variations in
voltage level. If you have a surge protector on the
line, feed them off any
AC generator regardless of regulation and you should
have no problems.
Best regards,
John
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"MERTON B BAKER"
wrote:
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> Thanks! Good to know. Mert
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>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: 7x12minilathe@...
> [mailto: 7x12minilathe@...]On
Behalf Of Aquila
> Sent: Monday, November 05, 2012 9:46 AM
> To: 7x12minilathe@...
> Subject: [7x12minilathe] Re: Thinking of you.
>
>
>
>
>
> " We didn't run the
> computer off the generator, though, as I'm not sure
how sensitive it is
to
> minor variations in the frequency of tithe power
supply."......Mert
>
> We run out house on a 10,000w generator when the
power goes out, as it
> often does out here in the sticks.
> The desktop is connected to a UPS (as is the TV),
which smooths out the
> generator power nicely.
> The laptops manage just fine being plugged into the
wall and taking what
> the generator puts out.
>
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Re: Rust prevention - oil blacking
Hi Jerry
Haven't used the HF gun as I am in the UK but I have a similar cheap single (lower) voltage gun.
The higher voltage setting is only really used if you want twin coats or overlaid multi colour work. Both settings are more than adequate to get an adequate single coat but a single voltage gun could struggle with an adequate second coat thickness.
The coat thickness is controlled visually by the operator not by the overall attraction of the static charge which would give an overthick coating that will likely run during cure.
The fumes are quite pungent and with the powder I have not irritant or flammable and non toxic. The health and safety instructions suggest fume extract for curing and a plain dust mask for application.
Provided that you don't shed powder in the oven and sneak a run in when the spouse is shopping etc you should get away with it but an old oven or even a small toaster oven (smaller parts) is a better idea? for more regular use. I've used mine and the cooker hood was enough to remove the fumes quite rapidly
Fairly easy to do and excellent results and the coating is durable
Gerry W
Leeds UK
To: 7x12minilathe@... From: jdurand@... Date: Tue, 6 Nov 2012 10:05:54 -0800 Subject: Re: [7x12minilathe] Rust prevention - oil blacking
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On 11/6/2012 10:00 AM, Exibar wrote:
That certianly validates my findings.... I've found that once a
part has been heated and treated in that manner that it rusts
quicker than bare machined metal :-( although I wasn't using used
motor oil, after what you and others have said here, I have no
reason to doubt the rust reason.....
So, what I've been doing is cold blueing the parts, then sealing
them with clear rustoleum.... Does't take ust clear to coat and
seal. So it seems like it's working ok.... I *really* like the
blued look on these parts.... I just wish there was a simpler and
durable way to achieve it cheaply...
Since one way to finish parts is powder coat, anyone used the Harbor
Freight power coat gun?? I've seen some comments that some things
are nicer than the expensive guns.? I know the voltage is lower on
the HF unit (11,000 vs 15-25,000 on others), but I think this just
means a little bit thinner coating of powder.
The price is nice.
Also, as to baking, I've seen some people using a kitchen oven (I
assume the spouse was out at the time).? Does that work safely, or
do the fumes lead to divorce and/or explosions?
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tel: +1 408 356-3886, USA toll free: 1 866 356-3886
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Re: Rust prevention - oil blacking
On 11/6/2012 10:00 AM, Exibar wrote:
That certianly validates my findings.... I've found that once a
part has been heated and treated in that manner that it rusts
quicker than bare machined metal :-( although I wasn't using used
motor oil, after what you and others have said here, I have no
reason to doubt the rust reason.....
So, what I've been doing is cold blueing the parts, then sealing
them with clear rustoleum.... Does't take ust clear to coat and
seal. So it seems like it's working ok.... I *really* like the
blued look on these parts.... I just wish there was a simpler and
durable way to achieve it cheaply...
Since one way to finish parts is powder coat, anyone used the Harbor
Freight power coat gun?? I've seen some comments that some things
are nicer than the expensive guns.? I know the voltage is lower on
the HF unit (11,000 vs 15-25,000 on others), but I think this just
means a little bit thinner coating of powder.
The price is nice.
Also, as to baking, I've seen some people using a kitchen oven (I
assume the spouse was out at the time).? Does that work safely, or
do the fumes lead to divorce and/or explosions?
--
Jerry Durand, Durand Interstellar, Inc.
tel: +1 408 356-3886, USA toll free: 1 866 356-3886
Skype: jerrydurand
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