Re: Mini Lathe - Mini Mill
I was on the mini mill yahoo group. It was a long time ago. Maybe someone here can answer this question. If its?not appropriate here please let me know and accept my apologies.? I have done a lot of upgrades to my mill over the years, but haven't done this one.
So I was wondering if there were any comments on it. I have the Fignoggle? delrin split? nuts on the mill now with the metric screws for reduced backlash. I was wondering how the backlash on these SAE leadscrews and nuts is.? Floyd
On Wed, Mar 23, 2022 at 10:02 AM Charles Kinzer < ckinzer@...> wrote: There used to be a Yahoo group called something like “GrizHFminimill” (I probably don’t have that quite right and all brands were discussed) which was pretty good.? But I think it evaporated.? I can’t find a dedicated group now. ? I recall mini-mill topics being discussed on this 7x12MiniLathe group from time to time and don’t recall anyone complaining.? This group probably has many or most of the “usual suspects” from the old group because of the likelihood that somebody with a mini-mill probably also has a mini-lathe. ? Chuck K. ? Sent from for Windows ? ? I was wondering where I might find the Mini Mill forum. I'm not sure this is the forum to discuss the mill on.? ?
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WAM ; Do you have problem with your web? I have tested you With different browsers ? Hmm. We’re having trouble finding that site. ? We can’t connect to the server at . ? ? ? Sendt fr? for Windows ? Fr?:WAM
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Emne: Re: [7x12MiniLathe] LMS 5200 Lathe motor ? I have the Consew on multiple machines - my CNC and my Deckel clone: http://www.ajawamnet.com/ajawam3/swarf/maxnc.html http://www.ajawamnet.com/ajawam3/swarf/cutter_grinder.html ? On the one I have - the CS1000 - I know to reverse it you need to go thru the set up menu. ? Lot's of torque at any speed... nice and even ? ?
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On 3/22/2022 10:25 PM, Jon Rus via groups.io wrote: > Ralph, > How do you like the motor performance? Do you have continuous > (0%-100%) analog speed control? What did you do for your mounts and > belt drive interfaces? > . > I was looking at this pretty closely > Mini Metal Lathe 1 hp Servo Motor 115V 750W Kit 2 speed Grizzly Harbor > Freight | eBay > <https://www.ebay.com/itm/185240421319?hash=item2b213083c7:g:KRgAAOSw2ndiE52l> > . > . > TIA for your thoughts >? >? > On 3/22/2022 8:47 PM, Ralph Hulslander wrote: >> I have the Consew Brushless 3/4 >> <https://www.ebay.com/itm/133108684982?hash=item1efde558b6:g:r1MAAOSw~gRVmWce>hp >> motor on my lathe, my mill and my bandsaw and I have a spare. >>? >> Ralph >>? >> On Tue, Mar 22, 2022 at 8:16 PM mike allen <animal@...> wrote: >>? >>???????????? if you don't mind making a new motor mount you can use a >>???? treadmill motor & controller , that will give you variable speed . >>? >>???????????? animal >>? >>???? On 3/22/2022 3:23 PM, Johannes wrote: >>>? >>>???? Hi group >>>? >>>???? I have a 5200 LMS lathe, and I think the motor is gone. >>>? >>>???? It need a manual twist? to run and the motor make a lot of noise. >>>? >>>???? Sometimes ago the motor make a lot of noise, and I took out the >>>???? rotor. >>>? >>>???? The axel under the bearing was very worn, I did something and it >>>???? has worked ok until today. >>>? >>>???? A new LMS 4145 500 Watt Brushless DC motor will cost me 350/400 >>> USD. >>>? >>>???? So before I order, I ask my group : >>>? >>>???? *_is it possible to get a new motor that can replace and fit to >>>???? my 5200 lathe ?_* >>>? >>>???? 350/400 USD Is nearly 1/3 of a new lathe? :-) >>>? >>>???? If someone have some experience with this motor or similar , you >>>???? are welcome to give me some advice. >>>? >>>???? Best regards >>>? >>>???? Johannes >>>? >>>???? Mexico >>>? >>? >? >? >? > >? >? >? ? ? ? ? ? ?
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Re: Mini Lathe - Mini Mill
There used to be a Yahoo group called something like “GrizHFminimill” (I probably don’t have that quite right and all brands were discussed) which was pretty good.? But I think it evaporated.? I can’t find a dedicated group now. ? I recall mini-mill topics being discussed on this 7x12MiniLathe group from time to time and don’t recall anyone complaining.? This group probably has many or most of the “usual suspects” from the old group because of the likelihood that somebody with a mini-mill probably also has a mini-lathe. ? Chuck K. ? Sent from for Windows ?
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From: Floyd BurkettSent: Wednesday, March 23, 2022 7:30 AM To: [email protected]Subject: [7x12MiniLathe] Mini Lathe - Mini Mill ? I was wondering where I might find the Mini Mill forum. I'm not sure this is the forum to discuss the mill on.? ?
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I was wondering where I might find the Mini Mill forum. I'm not sure this is the forum to discuss the mill on.?
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Hi Jon, I am just an occasional user of the lathe, mill and band saw. The motors have all performed excellently. I use the foot pedal on the mill and bandsaw with a 100k POT on the lathe for speed control. Using reverse is a pain with the stock controller, which I am "thinking" of replacing. I just substituted?the pulleys with adapters for the motor shaft. I am "thinking" of mounting the lathe motor directly on the jackshaft with the pulley reversed essentially?eliminating any pulleys as far as speed control goes. I have a Craftsman?12x36 lathe. I highly recommend?the motors especially for the cost/performance.
Ralph
On Wed, Mar 23, 2022 at 9:38 AM WAM < ajawam2@...> wrote: I have the Consew on multiple machines - my CNC and my Deckel clone:
On the one I have - the CS1000 - I know to reverse it you need to go
thru the set up menu.
Lot's of torque at any speed... nice and even
On 3/22/2022 10:25 PM, Jon Rus via wrote:
> Ralph,
> How do you like the motor performance? Do you have continuous
> (0%-100%) analog speed control? What did you do for your mounts and
> belt drive interfaces?
> .
> I was looking at this pretty closely
> Mini Metal Lathe 1 hp Servo Motor 115V 750W Kit 2 speed Grizzly Harbor
> Freight | eBay
> <>
> .
> .
> TIA for your thoughts
>
>
> On 3/22/2022 8:47 PM, Ralph Hulslander wrote:
>> I have the Consew Brushless 3/4
>> <>hp
>> motor on my lathe, my mill and my bandsaw and I have a spare.
>>
>> Ralph
>>
>> On Tue, Mar 22, 2022 at 8:16 PM mike allen <animal@...> wrote:
>>
>>? ? ? ? ? ? ?if you don't mind making a new motor mount you can use a
>>? ? ?treadmill motor & controller , that will give you variable speed .
>>
>>? ? ? ? ? ? ?animal
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>>? ? ?On 3/22/2022 3:23 PM, Johannes wrote:
>>>
>>>? ? ?Hi group
>>>
>>>? ? ?I have a 5200 LMS lathe, and I think the motor is gone.
>>>
>>>? ? ?It need a manual twist? to run and the motor make a lot of noise.
>>>
>>>? ? ?Sometimes ago the motor make a lot of noise, and I took out the
>>>? ? ?rotor.
>>>
>>>? ? ?The axel under the bearing was very worn, I did something and it
>>>? ? ?has worked ok until today.
>>>
>>>? ? ?A new LMS 4145 500 Watt Brushless DC motor will cost me 350/400
>>> USD.
>>>
>>>? ? ?So before I order, I ask my group :
>>>
>>>? ? ?*_is it possible to get a new motor that can replace and fit to
>>>? ? ?my 5200 lathe ?_*
>>>
>>>? ? ?350/400 USD Is nearly 1/3 of a new lathe? :-)
>>>
>>>? ? ?If someone have some experience with this motor or similar , you
>>>? ? ?are welcome to give me some advice.
>>>
>>>? ? ?Best regards
>>>
>>>? ? ?Johannes
>>>
>>>? ? ?Mexico
>>>
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I have the Consew on multiple machines - my CNC and my Deckel clone:
On the one I have - the CS1000 - I know to reverse it you need to go thru the set up menu.
Lot's of torque at any speed... nice and even
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On 3/22/2022 10:25 PM, Jon Rus via groups.io wrote: Ralph,
How do you like the motor performance? Do you have continuous (0%-100%) analog speed control? What did you do for your mounts and belt drive interfaces?
.
I was looking at this pretty closely
Mini Metal Lathe 1 hp Servo Motor 115V 750W Kit 2 speed Grizzly Harbor Freight | eBay <>
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.
TIA for your thoughts
On 3/22/2022 8:47 PM, Ralph Hulslander wrote:
I have the Consew Brushless 3/4 <>hp motor on my lathe, my mill and my bandsaw and I have a spare.
Ralph
On Tue, Mar 22, 2022 at 8:16 PM mike allen <animal@...> wrote:
if you don't mind making a new motor mount you can use a
treadmill motor & controller , that will give you variable speed .
animal
On 3/22/2022 3:23 PM, Johannes wrote:
Hi group
I have a 5200 LMS lathe, and I think the motor is gone.
It need a manual twist to run and the motor make a lot of noise.
Sometimes ago the motor make a lot of noise, and I took out the
rotor.
The axel under the bearing was very worn, I did something and it
has worked ok until today.
A new LMS 4145 500 Watt Brushless DC motor will cost me 350/400 USD.
So before I order, I ask my group :
*_is it possible to get a new motor that can replace and fit to
my 5200 lathe ?_*
350/400 USD Is nearly 1/3 of a new lathe :-)
If someone have some experience with this motor or similar , you
are welcome to give me some advice.
Best regards
Johannes
Mexico
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 -- Since I have just been cleaning and painting a steady that was given to me for my Boxford A lathe, your post caught my attention. I like the big open gate at the top. It bolts onto the ways with a plate underneath the bed. ? I have been using this with no problems. It has hardened steel fingers. I have not seen significant damage to my work, but it can be expected. Just plan for it I suppose and expect to re-turn the circumference later, when you can fit a tailstock center. ?I have been turning stainless steel, which can handle it. I love the way it forces the work to stay concentric. This is important for the ER32 collet holder I am making for a grinding/milling-motor attachment to go on the cross-slide in place of the compound slide. ?(Love Quinn Dunkie's work. I don't have a milling machine, but then a milling tool on the cross-slide might help.). Evan Lathe: 1955 Boxford Model A with screw cutting gearbox and power feed. My Free Online Geartrain Software: My YouTube Channel and Playlist about using an engineers lathe: ? Project to build a Greek Hero steam engine and measure its power output:?
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X axis DRO, my next project
Hi all.
For my next lathe project I'm thinking about adding an X axis DRO.? It's really the one axis there's no built in measurement for and I think I'd really like it for boring to a specific depth and tasks like that.? I'm currently looking at the Shars stainless 24" units as I have a x14.
If anyone has tried these, how do they deal with all the electrical "noise" from the lathe?? I have three 6" Mitutoyo digital calipers and two sets absolutely freak out within three or four feet of the lathe if it is running.? The other set is okay and my 4" Vinca are good.? I'm concerned the Shars DRO won't deal with the noise either so any experience with the Shars or any brand, good or bad would be appreciated.? Thanks!
Ryan
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Ralph,
How do you like the motor performance?
Do you have continuous (0%-100%) analog speed control? What did
you do for your mounts and belt drive interfaces?
.
I was looking at this pretty closely
.
.
TIA for your thoughts
On 3/22/2022 8:47 PM, Ralph Hulslander
wrote:
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I have the hp motor on
my lathe, my mill and my bandsaw and I have a spare.
Ralph
On Tue, Mar 22, 2022 at 8:16
PM mike allen < animal@...>
wrote:
??? ??? if you don't mind making a new motor mount you
can use a treadmill motor & controller , that will
give you variable speed .
??? ??? animal
On 3/22/2022 3:23 PM, Johannes wrote:
Hi group
?
I have a 5200
LMS lathe, and I think the motor is gone.
It need a manual
twist ?to run and the motor make a lot of noise.
?
Sometimes ago
the motor make a lot of noise, and I took out the
rotor.
The axel under
the bearing was very worn, I did something and it
has worked ok until today.
?
A new LMS 4145?
500 Watt Brushless DC motor
will cost me 350/400 USD.
So before I
order, I ask my group :
is it
possible to get a new motor that can replace and
fit to my 5200 lathe ?
?
350/400 USD Is
nearly 1/3 of a new lathe? :-)
?
If someone have
some experience with this motor or similar , you are
welcome to give me some advice.
?
Best regards
Johannes
Mexico
?
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?
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It's frequently possible to get a free treadmill on bulk trash day! If not, they're usually available cheaply at thrift stores. In addition to the motor & controller, there's usually quite a bit of square tubing & other metal stock for all sorts of projects. I've also gotten quite a bit of useful stuff from discarded motorized exercise bikes.
Roy
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I have the hp motor on my lathe, my mill and my bandsaw and I have a spare.
Ralph
On Tue, Mar 22, 2022 at 8:16 PM mike allen < animal@...> wrote:
??? ??? if you don't mind making a new motor mount you can use a
treadmill motor & controller , that will give you variable
speed .
??? ??? animal
On 3/22/2022 3:23 PM, Johannes wrote:
Hi group
?
I have a 5200 LMS lathe,
and I think the motor is gone.
It need a manual twist
?to run and the motor make a lot of noise.
?
Sometimes ago the motor
make a lot of noise, and I took out the rotor.
The axel under the
bearing was very worn, I did something and it has worked ok
until today.
?
A new LMS 4145? 500 Watt Brushless DC motor will cost me
350/400 USD.
So before I order, I ask
my group :
is it possible to
get a new motor that can replace and fit to my 5200
lathe ?
?
350/400 USD Is nearly
1/3 of a new lathe? :-)
?
If someone have some
experience with this motor or similar , you are welcome to
give me some advice.
?
Best regards
Johannes
Mexico
?
?
?
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??? ??? if you don't mind making a new motor mount you can use a
treadmill motor & controller , that will give you variable
speed .
??? ??? animal
On 3/22/2022 3:23 PM, Johannes wrote:
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Hi group
?
I have a 5200 LMS lathe,
and I think the motor is gone.
It need a manual twist
?to run and the motor make a lot of noise.
?
Sometimes ago the motor
make a lot of noise, and I took out the rotor.
The axel under the
bearing was very worn, I did something and it has worked ok
until today.
?
A new LMS 4145? 500 Watt Brushless DC motor will cost me
350/400 USD.
So before I order, I ask
my group :
is it possible to
get a new motor that can replace and fit to my 5200
lathe ?
?
350/400 USD Is nearly
1/3 of a new lathe? :-)
?
If someone have some
experience with this motor or similar , you are welcome to
give me some advice.
?
Best regards
Johannes
Mexico
?
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Yea, I wasn’t sure about that voltage. Thanks for the correct information. ? Michael - California, USA Micro-Mark MicroLux 7x16 LMS 3990 Hi-Torque Mill with power feed ? ? ?
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From: [email protected] < [email protected]> On Behalf Of Chris Wood Sent: Tuesday, March 22, 2022 4:15 PM To: [email protected]Subject: Re: [7x12MiniLathe] LMS 5200 Lathe motor ? The motors used on the LittleMachineShop.com mini lathes and mini mills are 230V motors. ? The motor on Alibaba is a 48V motor. Besides the voltage being correct, be sure to check the physical dimensions. ? SIEG makes those motors at their factory in Shanghai so they may not be standard. ? Chris Wood
The premier source of tooling, parts, and accessories for bench top machinists.
396 W. Washington Blvd. #500, Pasadena, CA 91103
(800)981-9663 * Fax (626)797-7934 ? ? ? ? ? I was looking into getting one of these motors for another project a while ago and found this: < > ? I’m not sure if it will work, and I did not buy one yet but thought I’d pass this on to you as a possibility. ? I wasn’t happy with the replacement cost from either Micro-Mark or LMS. ? Michael - California, USA Micro-Mark MicroLux 7x16 LMS 3990 Hi-Torque Mill with power feed ? ? ? ? Hi group ? I have a 5200 LMS lathe, and I think the motor is gone. It need a manual twist ?to run and the motor make a lot of noise. ? Sometimes ago the motor make a lot of noise, and I took out the rotor. The axel under the bearing was very worn, I did something and it has worked ok until today. ? A new LMS 4145? 500 Watt Brushless DC motor will cost me 350/400 USD. So before I order, I ask my group : is it possible to get a new motor that can replace and fit to my 5200 lathe ? ? 350/400 USD Is nearly 1/3 of a new lathe? :-) ? If someone have some experience with this motor or similar , you are welcome to give me some advice. ? Best regards Johannes Mexico ? ? ?
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Hi Chris Nice you are following us on the Group. I have an electrical question: how do you make ?120 V to a 220 V motor?? (Just for education!) ? The 5200 lathe lamps is for 220 V, so it is difficult to read, but easy to fix. To day with my broken motor, I see the FAULT lamp is glowing a littlebit. Can you explain FAULT error ? ? /Johannes ? ? ? ? Sendt fr? for Windows ? ? The motors used on the LittleMachineShop.com mini lathes and mini mills are 230V motors. ? The motor on Alibaba is a 48V motor. Besides the voltage being correct, be sure to check the physical dimensions. ? SIEG makes those motors at their factory in Shanghai so they may not be standard. ? Chris Wood
The premier source of tooling, parts, and accessories for bench top machinists.
396 W. Washington Blvd. #500, Pasadena, CA 91103
(800)981-9663 * Fax (626)797-7934 ? ? ? ?
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From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Michael Jablonski via groups.io
Sent: Tuesday, March 22, 2022 4:01 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [7x12MiniLathe] LMS 5200 Lathe motor? I was looking into getting one of these motors for another project a while ago and found this: < > ? I’m not sure if it will work, and I did not buy one yet but thought I’d pass this on to you as a possibility. ? I wasn’t happy with the replacement cost from either Micro-Mark or LMS. ? Michael - California, USA Micro-Mark MicroLux 7x16 LMS 3990 Hi-Torque Mill with power feed ? ? ? ? Hi group ? I have a 5200 LMS lathe, and I think the motor is gone. It need a manual twist ?to run and the motor make a lot of noise. ? Sometimes ago the motor make a lot of noise, and I took out the rotor. The axel under the bearing was very worn, I did something and it has worked ok until today. ? A new LMS 4145? 500 Watt Brushless DC motor will cost me 350/400 USD. So before I order, I ask my group : is it possible to get a new motor that can replace and fit to my 5200 lathe ? ? 350/400 USD Is nearly 1/3 of a new lathe? :-) ? If someone have some experience with this motor or similar , you are welcome to give me some advice. ? Best regards Johannes Mexico ? ? ?
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I will take out the rotor from the front side, all cables are going in back. If I am remembering correct, there are some springs on the back part I have to be carefully with. The rotor is a littlebit difficult to drag out, very heavy magnetism The first and last time I open this 5200 LMS motor , I saw the axel was ugly under the bearing. This time I will take some pictures. ? /johannes ? ? ? ? ? ? Sendt fr? for Windows ? ? So new bearings won't solve the problem?
Can you figure out what's causing the noise?
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The motors used on the LittleMachineShop.com mini lathes and mini mills are 230V motors.
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The motor on Alibaba is a 48V motor. Besides the voltage being correct, be sure to check the physical dimensions.
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SIEG makes those motors at their factory in Shanghai so they may not be standard.
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Chris Wood
The premier source of tooling, parts, and accessories for bench top machinists.
396 W. Washington Blvd. #500, Pasadena, CA 91103
(800)981-9663 * Fax (626)797-7934
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From: [email protected] < [email protected]>
On Behalf Of Michael Jablonski via groups.io
Sent: Tuesday, March 22, 2022 4:01 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [7x12MiniLathe] LMS 5200 Lathe motor
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I was looking into getting one of these motors for another project a while ago and found this:
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I’m not sure if it will work, and I did not buy one yet but thought I’d pass this on to you as a possibility.
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I wasn’t happy with the replacement cost from either Micro-Mark or LMS.
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Michael - California, USA
Micro-Mark MicroLux 7x16
LMS 3990 Hi-Torque Mill with power feed
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Hi group
?
I have a 5200 LMS lathe, and I think the motor is gone.
It need a manual twist ?to run and the motor make a lot of noise.
?
Sometimes ago the motor make a lot of noise, and I took out the rotor.
The axel under the bearing was very worn, I did something and it has worked ok until today.
?
A new LMS 4145? 500 Watt Brushless DC motor will cost me 350/400 USD.
So before I order, I ask my group :
is it possible to get a new motor that can replace and fit to my 5200 lathe ?
?
350/400 USD Is nearly 1/3 of a new lathe? :-)
?
If someone have some experience with this motor or similar , you are welcome to give me some advice.
?
Best regards
Johannes
Mexico
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I have only a LMS 4700 , so I am collection good advices. ? /johannes ? Sendt fr? for Windows ? ? On Sun, Mar 20, 2022 at 07:50 PM, Johannes wrote: Also this is nice from Blondihacks
Nice project IF you have a good milling machine. :)
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So new bearings won't solve the problem?
Can you figure out what's causing the noise?
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On Sun, Mar 20, 2022 at 07:50 PM, Johannes wrote:
Also this is nice from Blondihacks
Nice project IF you have a good milling machine. :)
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Re: Different Prices - such a range!
On Mon, Mar 21, 2022 at 06:42 AM, Jacques Savard wrote:
Interesting?
Thank
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Also some other? model? at 700.00
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Which? is? the best?? buy ??
That 7x14? price is now $700 at Walmart.ca . About the best buy?? I think the Vevor are the 'bottom of the heap' in quality, so hard to tell. I have a 7x14 lathe and I would not be happy with a 7x12 or smaller, so my advice is to get at least 7x14. The best buy would probably be on the local used listings (craigslist, kijiji, etc..) to find a machine from somebody nearby.
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Johannes
Evan
