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Re: Photobucket alternative. Was: Painted Myself Into a Corner Again

Chris Albertson
 

There are many other sites. ? Even Google g-disk works. ? As does Apple iCloud drive. ? Neiter of them force the people looking at your photos to jump through any hoops

THAT should be anyones first requirement. ?the the site places any requirements on the viewers of your photos, no mater have small you can't use the site. ??

If the site requires my to turn off add blocking, I bail.? I assume most others will too. ? A sign-in a deal breaker too.

But you say "they have to pay for the site" ?Yes. ? I pay both Apple and Google to store my data, if I make it public you can see it from free because I pay Apple $0.99 per month.

There are also MANY who offer free space where you can build a web site. ? They offer limited free space in hope that you like it and want more, then you'd have to pay.? But I'm sure that only expect a tiny percent to convert to paying customers.

Google and Apple are both good.? I think Microsoft was a deal too that works

On Wed, Jul 26, 2017 at 12:48 AM, Ian Newman ian_new@... [7x12minilathe] <7x12minilathe@...> wrote:
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Hi,

Wait awhile before going for a new photo host.

Like you, I am disappointed with the recent changes in Photobucket terms and condition which require me to pay an annual fee if I want to carry on using the site as I have been doing for the last five years or so.

Photobucket have really upset a huge number of their users and there are a large number who are looking to 'jump ship'.? I'm sure that an alternative host will step in and grab the disenchanted membership by offering the features that Photobucket has removed and also providing a 'one click' transfer process to import all your Photobucket content - 'io groups' did exactly this in response to the concerns over Yahoo groups

Give it a month or so and then choose.

Personally, I would rule out any provider who requires you to 'sign in' to view content as this is an inconvenience to others viewing your photos.? This eliminates Facebook, Flickr, etc

All the best,
Ian

On 26 Jul 2017, at 06:25, Arthur Coe acoe@... [7x12minilathe] <7x12minilathe@...> wrote:

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BTW, any recommendations on a good, free, photo sharing site.? I originally went with Photobucket based on recommendations from this group.? What's the current fave?



From: "Arthur Coe acoe@... [7x12minilathe]" <7x12minilathe@...>
To: "7x12minilathe@..." <7x12minilathe@...>
Sent: Tuesday, July 25, 2017 10:15 PM
Subject: Re: [7x12minilathe] Painted Myself Into a Corner Again

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I tried to fix that - after fighting through about 20 ads.? Maybe it worked - not sure.? What a PIA.? I didn't realize they had screwed up their site like that.? Time to find a new photo sharing? vehicle :(



From: "'Michael Jablonski' michaeljab@... [7x12minilathe]" <7x12minilathe@...>
To: 7x12minilathe@...
Sent: Tuesday, July 25, 2017 5:24 PM
Subject: RE: [7x12minilathe] Painted Myself Into a Corner Again

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When I try to view your photo on photobucket, it says "Please update your account to allow 3rd party hosting". It used to just keep popping up ads while I was viewing a photo.

Michael - California, USA
Micro-Mark MicroLux 7x16
LMS 3990 Hi-Torque Mill with power feed



From: 7x12minilathe@... [mailto:7x12minilathe@yahoogroups.com]
Sent: Tuesday, July 25, 2017 2:13 PM
To: 7x12minilathe@...
Subject: [7x12minilathe] Painted Myself Into a Corner Again

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Thought I was being clever this time and started turning a piece on a long hunk of 2" stock - so I'd have plenty of margin for error.? See photo: ?
Next step is to drill a hole through the center of the turned section, starting from the tailstock end.? Unfortunately, in my cleverness, I didn't account for the length of the chuck and the drill - I either need a longer lathe bed or a shorter set up.

So, the next step now is to c ut off the turned section and re-mount it in my chuck.? Which leads to my question.

I've gotten pretty good at centering a piece in my 4-jaw chuck, using DI.? But, in this case, I need to center the counter sunk hole (where the tailstock is currently mounted) and also make sure the axis of the hole I drill will be parallel with the axis of the turned portion (IOW, make the axis of the turned portion parallel to the bed).? The turned down portion is about 2" long, so if it is not aligned parallel with the bed the hole will be off by quite a bit.? Any advice on the most efficient way to achieve this alignment?.










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Chris Albertson
Redondo Beach, California


Pics and files

 

Making the most out of Photobucket's woes.
Any interest in having a group parallel to this one, mainly intended for uploads meaning pics and files?
has been created. This unfortunately means registering individually but then so does any other pic storage service.
If members choose to use it, great. If otherwise, so be it. It's there for the taking and in the end, subject to yahoo's willingness to keep it there.



Best, mario




On Wed, Jul 26, 2017 at 9:03 AM, Prasad ad_prasad@... [7x12minilathe] <7x12minilathe@...> wrote:.?


Of course the best is the photos section on this group. Unfortunately the owners of this group probably had some bad experience in the past I think. But I consider myself a junior member here.?

-Prasad



Re: Painted Myself Into a Corner Again

Prasad
 

I have used google photos with good success and it does not give these problems. All I had to do was upload the photos and make the folder public.?

Of course the best is the photos section on this group. Unfortunately the owners of this group probably had some bad experience in the past I think. But I consider myself a junior member here.?

-Prasad




On Wednesday, July 26, 2017, 1:26:14 AM EDT, Arthur Coe acoe@... [7x12minilathe] <7x12minilathe@...> wrote:


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BTW, any recommendations on a good, free, photo sharing site.? I originally went with Photobucket based on recommendations from this group.? What's the current fave?



From: "Arthur Coe acoe@... [7x12minilathe]" <7x12minilathe@...>
To: "7x12minilathe@..." <7x12minilathe@...>
Sent: Tuesday, July 25, 2017 10:15 PM
Subject: Re: [7x12minilathe] Painted Myself Into a Corner Again

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I tried to fix that - after fighting through about 20 ads.? Maybe it worked - not sure.? What a PIA.? I didn't realize they had screwed up their site like that.? Time to find a new photo sharing? vehicle :(



From: "'Michael Jablonski' michaeljab@... [7x12minilathe]" <7x12minilathe@...>
To: 7x12minilathe@...
Sent: Tuesday, July 25, 2017 5:24 PM
Subject: RE: [7x12minilathe] Painted Myself Into a Corner Again

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When I try to view your photo on photobucket, it says "Please update your account to allow 3rd party hosting". It used to just keep popping up ads while I was viewing a photo.

Michael - California, USA
Micro-Mark MicroLux 7x16
LMS 3990 Hi-Torque Mill with power feed



From: 7x12minilathe@... [mailto:7x12minilathe@...]
Sent: Tuesday, July 25, 2017 2:13 PM
To: 7x12minilathe@...
Subject: [7x12minilathe] Painted Myself Into a Corner Again

?
Thought I was being clever this time and started turning a piece on a long hunk of 2" stock - so I'd have plenty of margin for error.? See photo: ?
Next step is to drill a hole through the center of the turned section, starting from the tailstock end.? Unfortunately, in my cleverness, I didn't account for the length of the chuck and the drill - I either need a longer lathe bed or a shorter set up.

So, the next step now is to c ut off the turned section and re-mount it in my chuck.? Which leads to my question.

I've gotten pretty good at centering a piece in my 4-jaw chuck, using DI.? But, in this case, I need to center the counter sunk hole (where the tailstock is currently mounted) and also make sure the axis of the hole I drill will be parallel with the axis of the turned portion (IOW, make the axis of the turned portion parallel to the bed).? The turned down portion is about 2" long, so if it is not aligned parallel with the bed the hole will be off by quite a bit.? Any advice on the most efficient way to achieve this alignment?.








Re: Photobucket alternative. Was: Painted Myself Into a Corner Again

 

The real pain is all the past, non modifiable links already floating out there...

If only we had the photo section available....

On Wed, Jul 26, 2017 at 7:27 AM, old_toolmaker@... [7x12minilathe] <7x12minilathe@...> wrote:
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I have always used Shutterfly.
Works good for me and all anyone needs to do is click on the link.

Dick



Re: Photobucket alternative. Was: Painted Myself Into a Corner Again

 

For myself, I find just a general file storage site works, something like Google Drive or Microsoft¡¯s OneDrive (or whatever it¡¯s called this month) might work for some.



That¡¯s mainly because I share files other than photos, which may be PDFs, Excel files, CAD models etc.



I use Dropbox (free version). It¡¯s worked fine for me for years, and like everything else you just paste a link, eg .



Dropbox syncs between your PC and the cloud, so there¡¯s no separate upload process. To get the ¡®cloud¡¯ link you can right-click the file on your PC and get it. Not sure how other systems (Google, Microsoft etc work).



Tony



(The Batmobile is based off this: , I really should put mine up there as a derivation one day.)







From: 7x12minilathe@... [mailto:7x12minilathe@...]
Sent: Wednesday, 26 July 2017 5:48 PM
To: 7x12minilathe@...
Subject: Re: [7x12minilathe] Photobucket alternative. Was: Painted Myself Into a Corner Again





Hi,



Wait awhile before going for a new photo host.



Like you, I am disappointed with the recent changes in Photobucket terms and condition which require me to pay an annual fee if I want to carry on using the site as I have been doing for the last five years or so.



Photobucket have really upset a huge number of their users and there are a large number who are looking to 'jump ship'. I'm sure that an alternative host will step in and grab the disenchanted membership by offering the features that Photobucket has removed and also providing a 'one click' transfer process to import all your Photobucket content - 'io groups' did exactly this in response to the concerns over Yahoo groups



Give it a month or so and then choose.



Personally, I would rule out any provider who requires you to 'sign in' to view content as this is an inconvenience to others viewing your photos. This eliminates Facebook, Flickr, etc



All the best,

Ian


On 26 Jul 2017, at 06:25, Arthur Coe acoe@... [7x12minilathe] <7x12minilathe@...> wrote:



BTW, any recommendations on a good, free, photo sharing site. I originally went with Photobucket based on recommendations from this group. What's the current fave?




_____


From: "Arthur Coe acoe@... [7x12minilathe]" <7x12minilathe@...>
To: "7x12minilathe@..." <7x12minilathe@...>
Sent: Tuesday, July 25, 2017 10:15 PM
Subject: Re: [7x12minilathe] Painted Myself Into a Corner Again





I tried to fix that - after fighting through about 20 ads. Maybe it worked - not sure. What a PIA. I didn't realize they had screwed up their site like that. Time to find a new photo sharing vehicle :(




_____


From: "'Michael Jablonski' michaeljab@... [7x12minilathe]" <7x12minilathe@...>
To: 7x12minilathe@...
Sent: Tuesday, July 25, 2017 5:24 PM
Subject: RE: [7x12minilathe] Painted Myself Into a Corner Again





When I try to view your photo on photobucket, it says "Please update your account to allow 3rd party hosting". It used to just keep popping up ads while I was viewing a photo.


Michael - California, USA
Micro-Mark MicroLux 7x16
LMS 3990 Hi-Torque Mill with power feed






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From: 7x12minilathe@... [mailto:7x12minilathe@...]
Sent: Tuesday, July 25, 2017 2:13 PM
To: 7x12minilathe@...
Subject: [7x12minilathe] Painted Myself Into a Corner Again



Thought I was being clever this time and started turning a piece on a long hunk of 2" stock - so I'd have plenty of margin for error. See photo: <> &o=17

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Next step is to drill a hole through the center of the turned section, starting from the tailstock end. Unfortunately, in my cleverness, I didn't account for the length of the chuck and the drill - I either need a longer lathe bed or a shorter set up.



So, the next step now is to c ut off the turned section and re-mount it in my chuck. Which leads to my question.



I've gotten pretty good at centering a piece in my 4-jaw chuck, using DI. But, in this case, I need to center the counter sunk hole (where the tailstock is currently mounted) and also make sure the axis of the hole I drill will be parallel with the axis of the turned portion (IOW, make the axis of the turned portion parallel to the bed). The turned down portion is about 2" long, so if it is not aligned parallel with the bed the hole will be off by quite a bit. Any advice on the most efficient way to achieve this alignment?.


Re: Photobucket alternative. Was: Painted Myself Into a Corner Again

Ian Newman
 

Hi Dick,
Thanks - I'll give it a look,

All the best,
Ian



From: "old_toolmaker@... [7x12minilathe]" <7x12minilathe@...>
To: 7x12minilathe@...
Sent: Wednesday, 26 July 2017, 13:28
Subject: Re: [7x12minilathe] Photobucket alternative. Was: Painted Myself Into a Corner Again

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I have always used Shutterfly.
Works good for me and all anyone needs to do is click on the link.

Dick



Re: Photobucket alternative. Was: Painted Myself Into a Corner Again

 

I have always used Shutterfly.
Works good for me and all anyone needs to do is click on the link.

Dick


Re: Painted Myself Into a Corner Again

 

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The end that is already faced off (the one with the centering hole) - in short, Yes.

.......and I also part off with a bandsaw, often with a guide line made by a parting tool.

Warren L


On 7/26/2017 1:06 AM, Arthur Coe acoe@... [7x12minilathe] wrote:

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Yes, centered and faced off square on TS end.? I won't try parting off a 2" diameter piece - instead will cut it off on my bandsaw.? No reason I couldn't drill from the end opposite the center drill.

So, I would be using the faced off end to "square" the piece up against the face of the chuck?



From: "Warren LeMay notebook@... [7x12minilathe]" <7x12minilathe@...>
To: 7x12minilathe@...
Sent: Tuesday, July 25, 2017 3:35 PM
Subject: Re: [7x12minilathe] Painted Myself Into a Corner Again

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Assuming the piece is centered and faced off square, can you part it off, turn it around in your 4 jaw and drill it from the other end??
Chances are the center drill is smaller than the finished hole and the hole doesn't care which way it was drilled, once it is drilled through.
If that works, facing off the parted end (which is now facing the tailstock) should finish the item unless I missed something in the description.
Warren L

On 7/25/2017 5:12 PM, acoe@... [7x12minilathe] wrote:
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Thought I was being clever this time and started turning a piece on a long hunk of 2" stock - so I'd have plenty of margin for error.? See photo: ?
Next step is to drill a hole through the center of the turned section, starting from the tailstock end.? Unfortunately, in my cleverness, I didn't account for the length of the chuck and the drill - I either need a longer lathe bed or a shorter set up.

So, the next step now is to cut off the turned section and re-mount it in my chuck.? Which leads to my question.

I've gotten pretty good at centering a piece in my 4-jaw chuck, using DI.? But, in this case, I need to center the counter sunk hole (where the tailstock is currently mounted) and also make sure the axis of the hole I drill will be parallel with the axis of the turned portion (IOW, make the axis of the turned portion parallel to the bed).? The turned down portion is about 2" long, so if it is not aligned parallel with the bed the hole will be off by quite a bit.? Any advice on the most efficient way to achieve this alignment?.




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Re: Painted Myself Into a Corner Again

 

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Same thing here....? I didn't change settings either.

Warren L


On 7/25/2017 7:40 PM, 'Michael Jablonski' michaeljab@... [7x12minilathe] wrote:

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When I try to view your photo on photobucket, it says "Please update your account to allow 3rd party hosting". It used to just keep popping up ads while I was viewing a photo.

Michael - California, USA
Micro-Mark MicroLux 7x16
LMS 3990 Hi-Torque Mill with power feed



From: 7x12minilathe@... [mailto:7x12minilathe@...]
Sent: Tuesday, July 25, 2017 2:13 PM
To: 7x12minilathe@...
Subject: [7x12minilathe] Painted Myself Into a Corner Again

?

Thought I was being clever this time and started turning a piece on a long hunk of 2" stock - so I'd have plenty of margin for error.? See photo: ?

Next step is to drill a hole through the center of the turned section, starting from the tailstock end.? Unfortunately, in my cleverness, I didn't account for the length of the chuck and the drill - I either need a longer lathe bed or a shorter set up.


So, the next step now is to c ut off the turned section and re-mount it in my chuck.? Which leads to my question.

I've gotten pretty good at centering a piece in my 4-jaw chuck, using DI.? But, in this case, I need to center the counter sunk hole (where the tailstock is currently mounted) and also make sure the axis of the hole I drill will be parallel with the axis of the turned portion (IOW, make the axis of the turned portion parallel to the bed).? The turned down portion is about 2" long, so if it is not aligned parallel with the bed the hole will be off by quite a bit.? Any advice on the most efficient way to achieve this alignment?.




Virus-free.


Re: Photobucket alternative. Was: Painted Myself Into a Corner Again

Colin Steer
 

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That¡¯s very interesting news. Last week I received what I thought was a phishing email, purporting to be from Photobucket, asking me to upgrade my account because I was was using it for third party hosting.?
I dismissed this as a scam and checked the adverts that were linked to PB hosted photos and they are all still operational despite ¡°PB¡¯s¡± advice that they would remove this facility unless I ¡°upgraded¡±.
So, it would appear that this isn¡¯t a scam(?) after all?

Good advice from Ian, thanks.

Cheers

Colin


On 26 Jul 2017, at 08:48, Ian Newman ian_new@... [7x12minilathe] <7x12minilathe@...> wrote:


Hi,

Wait awhile before going for a new photo host.

Like you, I am disappointed with the recent changes in Photobucket terms and condition which require me to pay an annual fee if I want to carry on using the site as I have been doing for the last five years or so.

Photobucket have really upset a huge number of their users and there are a large number who are looking to 'jump ship'. ?I'm sure that an alternative host will step in and grab the disenchanted membership by offering the features that Photobucket has removed and also providing a 'one click' transfer process to import all your Photobucket content - 'io groups' did exactly this in response to the concerns over Yahoo groups

Give it a month or so and then choose.

Personally, I would rule out any provider who requires you to 'sign in' to view content as this is an inconvenience to others viewing your photos. ?This eliminates Facebook, Flickr, etc

All the best,
Ian

On 26 Jul 2017, at 06:25, Arthur Coe?acoe@...?[7x12minilathe] <7x12minilathe@...> wrote:

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BTW, any recommendations on a good, free, photo sharing site.? I originally went with Photobucket based on recommendations from this group.? What's the current fave?



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Re: Photobucket alternative. Was: Painted Myself Into a Corner Again

Ian Newman
 

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Hi,

Wait awhile before going for a new photo host.

Like you, I am disappointed with the recent changes in Photobucket terms and condition which require me to pay an annual fee if I want to carry on using the site as I have been doing for the last five years or so.

Photobucket have really upset a huge number of their users and there are a large number who are looking to 'jump ship'. ?I'm sure that an alternative host will step in and grab the disenchanted membership by offering the features that Photobucket has removed and also providing a 'one click' transfer process to import all your Photobucket content - 'io groups' did exactly this in response to the concerns over Yahoo groups

Give it a month or so and then choose.

Personally, I would rule out any provider who requires you to 'sign in' to view content as this is an inconvenience to others viewing your photos. ?This eliminates Facebook, Flickr, etc

All the best,
Ian

On 26 Jul 2017, at 06:25, Arthur Coe acoe@... [7x12minilathe] <7x12minilathe@...> wrote:

?

BTW, any recommendations on a good, free, photo sharing site.? I originally went with Photobucket based on recommendations from this group.? What's the current fave?



From: "Arthur Coe acoe@... [7x12minilathe]" <7x12minilathe@...>
To: "7x12minilathe@..." <7x12minilathe@...>
Sent: Tuesday, July 25, 2017 10:15 PM
Subject: Re: [7x12minilathe] Painted Myself Into a Corner Again

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I tried to fix that - after fighting through about 20 ads.? Maybe it worked - not sure.? What a PIA.? I didn't realize they had screwed up their site like that.? Time to find a new photo sharing? vehicle :(



From: "'Michael Jablonski' michaeljab@... [7x12minilathe]" <7x12minilathe@...>
To: 7x12minilathe@...
Sent: Tuesday, July 25, 2017 5:24 PM
Subject: RE: [7x12minilathe] Painted Myself Into a Corner Again

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When I try to view your photo on photobucket, it says "Please update your account to allow 3rd party hosting". It used to just keep popping up ads while I was viewing a photo.

Michael - California, USA
Micro-Mark MicroLux 7x16
LMS 3990 Hi-Torque Mill with power feed



From: 7x12minilathe@... [mailto:7x12minilathe@...]
Sent: Tuesday, July 25, 2017 2:13 PM
To: 7x12minilathe@...
Subject: [7x12minilathe] Painted Myself Into a Corner Again

?
Thought I was being clever this time and started turning a piece on a long hunk of 2" stock - so I'd have plenty of margin for error.? See photo: ?
Next step is to drill a hole through the center of the turned section, starting from the tailstock end.? Unfortunately, in my cleverness, I didn't account for the length of the chuck and the drill - I either need a longer lathe bed or a shorter set up.

So, the next step now is to c ut off the turned section and re-mount it in my chuck.? Which leads to my question.

I've gotten pretty good at centering a piece in my 4-jaw chuck, using DI.? But, in this case, I need to center the counter sunk hole (where the tailstock is currently mounted) and also make sure the axis of the hole I drill will be parallel with the axis of the turned portion (IOW, make the axis of the turned portion parallel to the bed).? The turned down portion is about 2" long, so if it is not aligned parallel with the bed the hole will be off by quite a bit.? Any advice on the most efficient way to achieve this alignment?.








Re: Painted Myself Into a Corner Again

MC Cason
 

On 07/26/2017 12:25 AM, Arthur Coe acoe@... [7x12minilathe] wrote:
BTW, any recommendations on a good, free, photo sharing site. I originally went with Photobucket based on recommendations from this group. What's the current fave?
I've been using Flickr for several years now, with no issues. It's part of Yahoo, and I sign in with my Yahoo login ID



If you are interested, this is my stuff:


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Re: Painted Myself Into a Corner Again

 

BTW, any recommendations on a good, free, photo sharing site.? I originally went with Photobucket based on recommendations from this group.? What's the current fave?



From: "Arthur Coe acoe@... [7x12minilathe]" <7x12minilathe@...>
To: "7x12minilathe@..." <7x12minilathe@...>
Sent: Tuesday, July 25, 2017 10:15 PM
Subject: Re: [7x12minilathe] Painted Myself Into a Corner Again

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I tried to fix that - after fighting through about 20 ads.? Maybe it worked - not sure.? What a PIA.? I didn't realize they had screwed up their site like that.? Time to find a new photo sharing? vehicle :(



From: "'Michael Jablonski' michaeljab@... [7x12minilathe]" <7x12minilathe@...>
To: 7x12minilathe@...
Sent: Tuesday, July 25, 2017 5:24 PM
Subject: RE: [7x12minilathe] Painted Myself Into a Corner Again

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When I try to view your photo on photobucket, it says "Please update your account to allow 3rd party hosting". It used to just keep popping up ads while I was viewing a photo.

Michael - California, USA
Micro-Mark MicroLux 7x16
LMS 3990 Hi-Torque Mill with power feed



From: 7x12minilathe@... [mailto:7x12minilathe@...]
Sent: Tuesday, July 25, 2017 2:13 PM
To: 7x12minilathe@...
Subject: [7x12minilathe] Painted Myself Into a Corner Again

?
Thought I was being clever this time and started turning a piece on a long hunk of 2" stock - so I'd have plenty of margin for error.? See photo: ?
Next step is to drill a hole through the center of the turned section, starting from the tailstock end.? Unfortunately, in my cleverness, I didn't account for the length of the chuck and the drill - I either need a longer lathe bed or a shorter set up.

So, the next step now is to c ut off the turned section and re-mount it in my chuck.? Which leads to my question.

I've gotten pretty good at centering a piece in my 4-jaw chuck, using DI.? But, in this case, I need to center the counter sunk hole (where the tailstock is currently mounted) and also make sure the axis of the hole I drill will be parallel with the axis of the turned portion (IOW, make the axis of the turned portion parallel to the bed).? The turned down portion is about 2" long, so if it is not aligned parallel with the bed the hole will be off by quite a bit.? Any advice on the most efficient way to achieve this alignment?.








Re: Painted Myself Into a Corner Again

 

"You just need to dial it in so the turned section is centered & parallel to the lathe bed."
That's the part I was wrestling with.? Would it work if I put the TS center in the center drilled hole and set my DI close to the chuck and centered the piece.? Or, would I still have to set the DI near the end of the piece to make sure it was aligned.? Still a little hazy on this.

Short drill might work.? I could keep the current set up (haven't broken it down yet, pending advice from you guys), put my steady rest at the end and drill part way in with a short drill.? That would create enough room to get my standard length drill in place.


From: "roylowenthal@... [7x12minilathe]" <7x12minilathe@...>
To: 7x12minilathe@...
Sent: Tuesday, July 25, 2017 6:35 PM
Subject: [7x12minilathe] Re: Painted Myself Into a Corner Again

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You just need to dial it in so the turned section is centered & parallel to the lathe bed. Drilling from the TS will center itself; you might prefer to start the hole from the end without the center hole already drilled. Or, after dialing the piece in, check to make sure the existing center hole is actually still on the axis of rotation.

You didn't mention the hole size, so there may be some other options. The easy one is getting a set of shorter drills. Twist drills come in 3 standard lengths; jobber, screw machine & taper length. Jobber are the commonly found ones, screw machine are shorter, taper length are longer. The sleazier approach is holding a drill in a carriage mounted holder by clamping down on the flutes with a piece of brass tubing to protect the flutes. If you do that, you'll appreciate that its such a nuisance to set up you'll be inspired to get a set of screw machine length drills ;-)

If the hole is big enough, it's also possible to drill it as large as possible with whatever size drill is short enough to fit on the lathe & finish by boring to size.

Roy



Re: Painted Myself Into a Corner Again

 

I tried to fix that - after fighting through about 20 ads.? Maybe it worked - not sure.? What a PIA.? I didn't realize they had screwed up their site like that.? Time to find a new photo sharing? vehicle :(



From: "'Michael Jablonski' michaeljab@... [7x12minilathe]" <7x12minilathe@...>
To: 7x12minilathe@...
Sent: Tuesday, July 25, 2017 5:24 PM
Subject: RE: [7x12minilathe] Painted Myself Into a Corner Again

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When I try to view your photo on photobucket, it says "Please update your account to allow 3rd party hosting". It used to just keep popping up ads while I was viewing a photo.

Michael - California, USA
Micro-Mark MicroLux 7x16
LMS 3990 Hi-Torque Mill with power feed



From: 7x12minilathe@... [mailto:7x12minilathe@...]
Sent: Tuesday, July 25, 2017 2:13 PM
To: 7x12minilathe@...
Subject: [7x12minilathe] Painted Myself Into a Corner Again

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Thought I was being clever this time and started turning a piece on a long hunk of 2" stock - so I'd have plenty of margin for error.? See photo: ?
Next step is to drill a hole through the center of the turned section, starting from the tailstock end.? Unfortunately, in my cleverness, I didn't account for the length of the chuck and the drill - I either need a longer lathe bed or a shorter set up.

So, the next step now is to c ut off the turned section and re-mount it in my chuck.? Which leads to my question.

I've gotten pretty good at centering a piece in my 4-jaw chuck, using DI.? But, in this case, I need to center the counter sunk hole (where the tailstock is currently mounted) and also make sure the axis of the hole I drill will be parallel with the axis of the turned portion (IOW, make the axis of the turned portion parallel to the bed).? The turned down portion is about 2" long, so if it is not aligned parallel with the bed the hole will be off by quite a bit.? Any advice on the most efficient way to achieve this alignment?.






Re: Painted Myself Into a Corner Again

 

Yes, centered and faced off square on TS end.? I won't try parting off a 2" diameter piece - instead will cut it off on my bandsaw.? No reason I couldn't drill from the end opposite the center drill.

So, I would be using the faced off end to "square" the piece up against the face of the chuck?



From: "Warren LeMay notebook@... [7x12minilathe]" <7x12minilathe@...>
To: 7x12minilathe@...
Sent: Tuesday, July 25, 2017 3:35 PM
Subject: Re: [7x12minilathe] Painted Myself Into a Corner Again

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Assuming the piece is centered and faced off square, can you part it off, turn it around in your 4 jaw and drill it from the other end??
Chances are the center drill is smaller than the finished hole and the hole doesn't care which way it was drilled, once it is drilled through.
If that works, facing off the parted end (which is now facing the tailstock) should finish the item unless I missed something in the description.
Warren L

On 7/25/2017 5:12 PM, acoe@... [7x12minilathe] wrote:
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Thought I was being clever this time and started turning a piece on a long hunk of 2" stock - so I'd have plenty of margin for error.? See photo: ?
Next step is to drill a hole through the center of the turned section, starting from the tailstock end.? Unfortunately, in my cleverness, I didn't account for the length of the chuck and the drill - I either need a longer lathe bed or a shorter set up.

So, the next step now is to cut off the turned section and re-mount it in my chuck.? Which leads to my question.

I've gotten pretty good at centering a piece in my 4-jaw chuck, using DI.? But, in this case, I need to center the counter sunk hole (where the tailstock is currently mounted) and also make sure the axis of the hole I drill will be parallel with the axis of the turned portion (IOW, make the axis of the turned portion parallel to the bed).? The turned down portion is about 2" long, so if it is not aligned parallel with the bed the hole will be off by quite a bit.? Any advice on the most efficient way to achieve this alignment?.




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Re: Painted Myself Into a Corner Again

 

Is there a sequence?? Or, just an iterative, back and forth process?

Don't know what happened to Photobucket.? Haven't used it for awhile.? Had to wade through way too many ads just to get my picture loaded.



From: "Chris Albertson albertson.chris@... [7x12minilathe]" <7x12minilathe@...>
To: 7x12minilathe <7x12minilathe@...>
Sent: Tuesday, July 25, 2017 2:49 PM
Subject: Re: [7x12minilathe] Painted Myself Into a Corner Again

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Photo bucket wants me to disable my ad-blocker before it will show your photo. ? Not going to do that. ?

You need to use the DI in two places.
1. on the park very near the chuck and
2. on the part very near the end.

Maybe a little plastic faced hammer could be used to adjust the DI reading near the parts end.

On Tue, Jul 25, 2017 at 2:12 PM, acoe@... [7x12minilathe] <7x12minilathe@...> wrote:
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Thought I was being clever this time and started turning a piece on a long hunk of 2" stock - so I'd have plenty of margin for error.? See photo: ?
Next step is to drill a hole through the center of the turned section, starting from the tailstock end.? Unfortunately, in my cleverness, I didn't account for the length of the chuck and the drill - I either need a longer lathe bed or a shorter set up.

So, the next step now is to cut off the turned section and re-mount it in my chuck.? Which leads to my question.

I've gotten pretty good at centering a piece in my 4-jaw chuck, using DI.? But, in this case, I need to center the counter sunk hole (where the tailstock is currently mounted) and also make sure the axis of the hole I drill will be parallel with the axis of the turned portion (IOW, make the axis of the turned portion parallel to the bed).? The turned down portion is about 2" long, so if it is not aligned parallel with the bed the hole will be off by quite a bit.? Any advice on the most efficient way to achieve this alignment?.






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Redondo Beach, California



Re: Painted Myself Into a Corner Again

 

You just need to dial it in so the turned section is centered & parallel to the lathe bed. Drilling from the TS will center itself; you might prefer to start the hole from the end without the center hole already drilled. Or, after dialing the piece in, check to make sure the existing center hole is actually still on the axis of rotation.

You didn't mention the hole size, so there may be some other options. The easy one is getting a set of shorter drills. Twist drills come in 3 standard lengths; jobber, screw machine & taper length. Jobber are the commonly found ones, screw machine are shorter, taper length are longer. The sleazier approach is holding a drill in a carriage mounted holder by clamping down on the flutes with a piece of brass tubing to protect the flutes. If you do that, you'll appreciate that its such a nuisance to set up you'll be inspired to get a set of screw machine length drills ;-)

If the hole is big enough, it's also possible to drill it as large as possible with whatever size drill is short enough to fit on the lathe & finish by boring to size.

Roy


Re: LMS 4700 mill

 

Works silly well - better than I would have imagined. With the Arduino/Anaheim Automation stepper/driver combo I can step down less than a mil using microstepping - what the toggle switches set - see the vids on that page -





Solid as all hell too.... I can ramp into a cut and it stays at the depth I want. With large cutters it's the typical "small mill - big cutter" vibe (you can see a bit of it on the DRO that reads down to 0.0002 [DRO PRO mag thing]) but it just plows thru - even on mild steel.

Even with the extended solid column -
I did the 2" solid column mod and sent the pics to LMS - they now sell a 2" riser block like what I made.

The thing is just solid... well, as solid as a little mill can be. And I use it a lot for my day job, doing silly I should never even try on a mill that size.

On 7/25/2017 5:42 PM, Chris Albertson albertson.chris@... [7x12minilathe] wrote:
How does the side mounted ball screw work? I'd be worried about the
torque trying to turn the milling head.

The design I like better places the screw on center line and almost
touching the existing rack. The head's weight is basically hung off the
stationary screw. The screw does not turn. A motor is used to rotate the
nut. I think the overall design is simpler.

People are getting better than .001" with this kind of setup.

Searching around I find a photo of this design here. It lifts from the
center of mass. Disadvantage is you need a full height ceiling but likely
a non-issue for most.
hossmachine.info/images....JPG
<(Medium).JPG>

Allthat said. I have a simple DRO mounted to the z-axis and it is accurate
to .001 and reads to .0005 if I use the gib lock if there is any depth
movement it does the DRO is not detecting it so I amuse not movement over
.0005" and this is with a stock mill, I'm not done with the CNC conversion.


On Tue, Jul 25, 2017 at 8:01 AM, WAM ajawam2@... [7x12minilathe] <
7x12minilathe@...> wrote:

I bagged that whole rack-pinion thing for something a bit more robust:


Actually my wife wanted it changed. She used it when we first got it,
said it sucks, and suggested the stepper I did, or something like this:



I can send the 3D model of that if you'd like...Uses off the shelf gears
from Boston Gear. Uses the same CNC Fusion ball screw.

I've been using the stepper/Arduino thing for years and really like it.
I can get accurate depths that hold.

As to the stock mini mill setup, everyone states you should lock the
gibs, or tighten them up. Also you can check your rack-pinion mesh and
shim the rack to make it a bit more tight.

I didn't like any of those suggestions. A rack-pinion is great for a
drill press; not so much for a mill, at least in my opinion...
//


On 7/25/2017 10:12 AM, 'Johannes' johannes@... [7x12minilathe]
wrote:
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This is the fine-adjuster to LMS 4700 Mill.

Have somebody made a lock for this?



My adjuster is moving (turning) when I am milling, and before I am doing
something stupid, I want an advice from you.



Best regards

Johannes




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Re: Painted Myself Into a Corner Again

 

same here.
Time to move away from Photobucket.



On Tue, Jul 25, 2017 at 6:40 PM, 'Michael Jablonski' michaeljab@... [7x12minilathe] <7x12minilathe@...> wrote:

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When I try to view your photo on photobucket, it says "Please update your account to allow 3rd party hosting". It used to just keep popping up ads while I was viewing a photo.

Michael - California, USA
Micro-Mark MicroLux 7x16
LMS 3990 Hi-Torque Mill with power feed



From: 7x12minilathe@... [mailto:7x12minilathe@yahoogroups.com]
Sent: Tuesday, July 25, 2017 2:13 PM
To: 7x12minilathe@...
Subject: [7x12minilathe] Painted Myself Into a Corner Again

?

Thought I was being clever this time and started turning a piece on a long hunk of 2" stock - so I'd have plenty of margin for error.? See photo: ?

Next step is to drill a hole through the center of the turned section, starting from the tailstock end.? Unfortunately, in my cleverness, I didn't account for the length of the chuck and the drill - I either need a longer lathe bed or a shorter set up.


So, the next step now is to c ut off the turned section and re-mount it in my chuck.? Which leads to my question.

I've gotten pretty good at centering a piece in my 4-jaw chuck, using DI.? But, in this case, I need to center the counter sunk hole (where the tailstock is currently mounted) and also make sure the axis of the hole I drill will be parallel with the axis of the turned portion (IOW, make the axis of the turned portion parallel to the bed).? The turned down portion is about 2" long, so if it is not aligned parallel with the bed the hole will be off by quite a bit.? Any advice on the most efficient way to achieve this alignment?.